spending would take 60 votes. instead of saying we don't have 60 votes to defund things, the other side would have to fund plan parenthood. >> it's an interesting way to look at it in the opposite direction. since john boehner has stepped down are you asking senator mitch mcconnell to step down? >> i'm trying to influence the debate in our country by saying you know what, why don't we let all spending expire and make them start over. what we're doing is not working. we're adding a mountain of debt to our country. >> you don't have an opinion on mitch mcconnell? >> this isn't about an individual. it isn't about any one person. it's about the government going bankrupt. it's more important than making this about a personal battle.