well, this is something we should politicize. it is relevant to our common lives together through the body of politics. >> okay. now, i don't have a script here, i'm just talking to president obama right now. okay? this is just me to him. you say that the states that have the most gun laws have the least gun violence. your home state of illinois has perhaps the most-stringent gun laws in the country. chicago is the largest city in illinois. since 2012, there have been 6,000 shootings. 6,000 shootings in the city of chicago. there have been 1679 murders in the city of chicago. many of them exactly where you worked as a community organizer.