people, makes them feel better about themselves. i think we're the longest partnership in hollywood history, actually. it's been almost like 40 years. >> do you think about it that way, that you're not just doing your work, which has some talent or technical aspect, but he says you're inflating, almost belarging people? >> i'm just fascinated by people. and it's what fascinated me about jim henson and his journey along with his wife and his family and his collaborators. it can be action, comedy, fantasy, but i'm always most fascinated by what's the journey and what's relatable. back to jim henson y think the reason he's so well remembered is satire, comedy. he's showing a mirror to us. and making us realize just how silly we can be sometimes. he's using those characters. i think brian is right, by the way. i think we are the longest partnership in hollywood. >> that's cool. >> it's still going strong. >> final question is the

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