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On tuesday a taliban suicide bomber killed at least ninety five people injured more than one hundred fifty in the afghan capital. The bombing in kabul is the deadliest act of terror in afghanistan since a truck blast in may last year which killed one hundred fifty the latest attack follows a recent surge in violence earlier this week armed militants attacked a save the Children Office in the city of jalalabad shortly after a car bomb exploded outside the premises six people reportedly killed Dozens Injured i saw claiming responsibility for the attack and we spoke to an eyewitness to a man who lost his son in the atrocity. The person who does this for the first i heard a few shots then we saw a man running and we are some more that happened he told us about the attack we left the area and when we were one hundred meters away a big explosion went off i was wounded in the eyes you can see when i got back i saw that my car was on fire one hour later there were more explosions and the fire started again. The man live on the hood my son who worked as a volunteer at the save the Children Office was killed in the incident his body is still inside the building my son was an educated man he was financially provider it was only six months ago that my son got engaged. A number of french prisons are still under a blockade as staff continue a two week long nationwide strike over a lack of security the protest began after an increase in Violent Attacks on Prison Guards by inmates one of the hotspots in the protest is the metallurgy jail near paris it is the largest in europe and holds more than four thousand inmates its also used to monitor potential also suspected terrorists among them is. Who faces trial over a two thousand and fifteen paris terror attack and as staff protested clashes erupted with Police Outside the prison. Ok guys today we have all come for a strike because this content is spreading across france a crucial problem is the security of prison personnel top of that is the issue of islamic radicals but also again. You are not isolated. Or not would you lucia its dangerous for us to be around the inmates because for them we are everything the hate for them we are enemies by definition. The protests started after three security guards were attacked by an inmate a string of other incidents followed including another assault that saw two guards hospitalized some of the attacks were reportedly carried out by radicalized prisoners on a prison staff are demanding one thousand extra guards to be employed to help control the situation they also want to radicalize anybody its kept in a separate high security facility political our work is very dangerous where weak teams of aggression and insult we experience from the islands which is not taken into consideration by the government. It has become more and more difficult for us to act ive seen physical aggression towards my colleagues every day it happens every time we open the so doors. We denounce the working in addition of our colleagues in the prison the security conditions the numerous acts of aggression against them so this if we want salaries to be increased for those who face such risks it work as well as an increase in personnel and better security still plenty of the weekly coming your way here on the program today for example the question of where are you from storing a debate on racism what explain why after the break. Many candid. One hundred thirty she managed using a button to press the radio button and said i would. Exchange so that is why this fax it is a goodie in this case senselessly this week weve done just shoot up. What politicians do something. They put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Most somehow want to be pressed. To try to be press has allowed them before three of them or cant be good. Im interested always in the water as in the how. Question. With us today for your world news there was a rather Fiery Exchange between russia and america at the United Nations on choose day over whos to blame for Chemical Attacks in syria and how they should be investigated or suggested that future probes should require independent expos to visit the sites of suspected incidents that idea was rejected russia is complicit in the assad regimes atrocities you are acting as judge and prosecutor russia is running from the facts your behavior exposes your true motives russia has the audacity to lecture the Security Council this is a long political spectacle for not going to accept any russian proposal that undermines our ability to get to the truth we should at least have taken a look at the draft before rejecting it russia all on its own killed the mechanism we had specifically tasked to identify those responsible what do you need an investigative mechanism for before an investigation you havent cues the Syrian Government of using chemical weapons. Emergency meeting or someone following claims that another chemical attack took place in syria on monday the reports were produced by. Militant sources that did not stop the u. S. Secretary of state saying that russia should shoulder the blame for that. Whoever conducted the attacks russia ultimately bears responsibility for the victims of these and countless other serious targeted with chemical weapons since russia became involved in syria. In essence a massive propaganda attack was conducted with the purpose of slandering russia on the world stage and undermining efforts for a peaceful settlement in syria the joint investigation mechanism jim was a stablished in twenty fifteen its accuse the Syrian Government of carrying out several Chemical Attacks including in concha kuhn in april last year even though no gym investigators ever actually visited that site where the gym mandate has now expired and moscow is requesting that changes are made in particular it wants site visits to be part of any future investigations russia also stresses the importance of eyewitness accounts and former u. K. Ambassador to syria peter ford says standards must be improved. But there is no independent corroboration of these reports and employ reasons to believe they are now discredited white helmet had chlorine gas being used it would have been a cloud which would have been visible and photographable so the report. Very hard to credit what was said simply not logical its almost comical in its absurdity regardless who used them grotesque its not serious the americans are not serious at all they just want to score points in their wrestling the big power game with russia. German media has revealed that the number of islamic extremists in southEastern Europe is being under reported by the federal government thats based on classified documents obtained by Germanys Left Party peter or investigates theres a growing threat from islamic extremism in europe based in the balkans and the German Government is keeping it to itself thats according to a highly classified report thats being seen by some left party m. P. s the media. The German Federal government cannot discount the basic threat posed by individuals and splinter groups in the islamist scene in Bosnia Herzegovina the hush hush document goes as far as to claim that theres a direct link between radical islamic groups in Bosnia Herzegovina and people in germany the true nature of what this heavily classified report says hasnt come out parts of it were redacted from the copy that was shown to the left party the federal government has been trying to downplay the growing islamist threat in public furthermore its entirely unacceptable that the government continues to cover up the role of the gulf states. My colleague charlotte devinsky traveled to Bosnia Herzegovina back in december she witnessed firsthand the situation on the ground there regarding islamic radicalization the local a mom is telling me that some of the residents have joined Islamic State in this forum a lot of the looting there are people who went to syria and forty on the side of i still but who tried to stop them or it looks like an ordinary sleepy village a few houses nestled between the hills not how you might imagine a cradle of terror. A local a mom says he fears for his life after speaking out against those who joined eisel we do this in a positive with these radical elements are always unpredictable and these people breed with me the aid at the same table as me and they want to shoot me this heavily edited version of the report issued by the government raises a lot of questions over what exactly germany knows about islamic radicalization in the balkans and how bad the situation actually is as we see in the arts or to our parliamentarian question the German Government gives the extra time its expertize that it doesnt explicitly in the gate the possibility that single persons or groups work along to the islamistic scene of bosnia or else the governor could be a threat to germany and europe but in the same time the government denies to speak about it Financial Transactions that are provided for example by the govt states or turkey to the burka states as well as the sending of the moms by the states and contrary to the German Secret Service just now. The German Government tries to hide the fact of growing danger coming from them is that groups from the public. If someone asks where are you from would you be offended that very question has stirred debate about racism after a social Media Campaign was launched in sweden arties nature sethi explains where you from sounds like an innocent enough question doesnt it but it could land you in trouble heres why actually to explain that i first need to tell you about an online Campaign Launched in sweden to help expose races them hash tag no stranger we hope to raise Awareness Regarding the extensive issue of racism that actually does exist in sweden although many want to believe that we live in the worlds most tolerant country the idea is to check parents as a bank subject to. Racism and tens out asking why me from rob some people up the wrong way even though i was born here people always ask me where im from i hate it when they do that nobody put on a decide where my home is where i come from doesnt concern you and it shouldnt matter i say shouldnt we either ask people about their country of origin to be on the safe side. Well heres some advice from the man behind the hashtag no stranger campaign you can ask the question just make sure you do it right its ok to wonder about someones country of origin but it should not be the very first thing to ask a stranger about because the reaction that follows is usually very stereotypical and racist like youre from viet nam i think its quite terrible that you guys eat dogs. So its name fest all region night and no follow up questions. And finally on the Program Every day household chores can actually be fun if youre floating in zero gravity has offered radio of the week straight from the International Space station thank you. For your great these times. Thanks for joining us for the weekly here on international your sunday programming returning at the top of the hour. Heres what people have been saying about redacted in that it was simply just full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch oh yeah it is the john oliver of Marty America is going to say we are apparently better than blue. Sky and see people you never heard of love redacted the night president of the world bank go hey im going to. Send us an email. Like so many clubs over the years so i know the guy you mean so i got. It all isnt only about what happens on the pitch. Pull the funnel school its about the passion from the fans its the age of the superman each kill the narrowness and spending two hundred twenty million on one player. Book its an experience like nothing else on to because i want to share what i think of what i know about the beautiful guy a great so well more transfer. And thinks this minute. There. Are. A lot of welcome to worlds apart in the twenty five years since the oath the process was launched it remains one of the most fruitful rounds of talks on the Israeli Palestinian issue not only because of the formal accords it produced but also because it managed to put the protagonist in one room and have them talk to one another and some believe these direct exchange was only possible because gay marriage can spread out there as you can now the u. S. Administration tries to mediate between the israelis and the palestinians how big of a problem is the mediation itself well to discuss that im now joined by guests in boston founder and cochairman of the israel palestine creative rage no Initiative Mr buskin thank you very much for your time its great to have you on the show thank you now i know that youve advised many Israeli Palestinian International Leaders on the middle east Peace Process and now that. The u. S. Vice president mike pants has arrived to the region trying to restart this negotiating process once again i wonder if there is any advise that you would give him. Advice i would do for Vice President pence and in fact i wrote to President Trump on the first day of his ministration is that after so many years of negotiations the israelis and the palestinians need to know that the need to resolve this problem themselves they need to sit in the room by themselves and how shouter an agreement the United States needs to inform the israelis and the palestinians that they will be there to help you free choir to provide bridging proposals to raise International Support and finance for a Peace Process. But if the israelis and the palestinians are going to be dependent on a third Party Mediator it is unlikely that were going to find a mediator who is going to be able to bring the parties into the room and work out an agreement this is what weve seen over two decades already but mr barak and i think the end notable change over the past year is that its true i know it please that you believe that the americans were never an unbiased mediator but at least they went to great pains to come across as such we each had a certain restraining influence on all sides the trying but couldnt care less about it and im sure you know that in the in this speech before. Mr pans didnt make a single nod to the palestinians he didnt mention that world the word settlements even once and i think it was quite clear that the his administration is positioning itself not as a mediator or pretend mediator but as a fully fledged backer of one side how does it change the negotiating dynamic overall well there are no negotiations there havent been negotiations for more than four years so i dont think it really changes anything to be fair to Vice President he did refer to keeping the status quo at the religious sites in jerusalem he called the temple mount to her almost surely from referring to that as being a place where muslims pray he did say that the israelis and the palestinians would need to agree on the borders and the sovereignty. In jerusalem and you did say that the United States would support a two state solution if the two parties agreed on that so i think that there was room there but i dont believe that the trumpet ministration can be an impartial mediator or bring the parties into the room at this time mr. To respect if we compare it to the kind of overtures that he made israel for example telling the knesset that hes administration is going to expedite the whole process of moving American Embassy to jerusalem i think if suddenly it doesnt feel like. Much ever and extended hand to the to the palestinians i know that back in december you didnt read much into these. Embassy moving proposal but now that the administration seems to be following through with that the standing ovation that it received in knesset as well as the netanyahu government overall efforts to get the most out of the Trumps Administration do you feel concerned im very concerned not because the americans are going to move their embassy to jerusalem theyre going to move their embassy to west jerusalem and drew some has been the capital of israel for seventy years now its not recognised by the International Community because the Children Office<\/a> in the city of jalalabad shortly after a car bomb exploded outside the premises six people reportedly killed Dozens Injured<\/a> i saw claiming responsibility for the attack and we spoke to an eyewitness to a man who lost his son in the atrocity. The person who does this for the first i heard a few shots then we saw a man running and we are some more that happened he told us about the attack we left the area and when we were one hundred meters away a big explosion went off i was wounded in the eyes you can see when i got back i saw that my car was on fire one hour later there were more explosions and the fire started again. The man live on the hood my son who worked as a volunteer at the save the Children Office<\/a> was killed in the incident his body is still inside the building my son was an educated man he was financially provider it was only six months ago that my son got engaged. A number of french prisons are still under a blockade as staff continue a two week long nationwide strike over a lack of security the protest began after an increase in Violent Attacks<\/a> on Prison Guards<\/a> by inmates one of the hotspots in the protest is the metallurgy jail near paris it is the largest in europe and holds more than four thousand inmates its also used to monitor potential also suspected terrorists among them is. Who faces trial over a two thousand and fifteen paris terror attack and as staff protested clashes erupted with Police Outside<\/a> the prison. Ok guys today we have all come for a strike because this content is spreading across france a crucial problem is the security of prison personnel top of that is the issue of islamic radicals but also again. You are not isolated. Or not would you lucia its dangerous for us to be around the inmates because for them we are everything the hate for them we are enemies by definition. The protests started after three security guards were attacked by an inmate a string of other incidents followed including another assault that saw two guards hospitalized some of the attacks were reportedly carried out by radicalized prisoners on a prison staff are demanding one thousand extra guards to be employed to help control the situation they also want to radicalize anybody its kept in a separate high security facility political our work is very dangerous where weak teams of aggression and insult we experience from the islands which is not taken into consideration by the government. It has become more and more difficult for us to act ive seen physical aggression towards my colleagues every day it happens every time we open the so doors. We denounce the working in addition of our colleagues in the prison the security conditions the numerous acts of aggression against them so this if we want salaries to be increased for those who face such risks it work as well as an increase in personnel and better security still plenty of the weekly coming your way here on the program today for example the question of where are you from storing a debate on racism what explain why after the break. Many candid. One hundred thirty she managed using a button to press the radio button and said i would. Exchange so that is why this fax it is a goodie in this case senselessly this week weve done just shoot up. What politicians do something. They put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Most somehow want to be pressed. To try to be press has allowed them before three of them or cant be good. Im interested always in the water as in the how. Question. With us today for your world news there was a rather Fiery Exchange<\/a> between russia and america at the United Nations<\/a> on choose day over whos to blame for Chemical Attacks<\/a> in syria and how they should be investigated or suggested that future probes should require independent expos to visit the sites of suspected incidents that idea was rejected russia is complicit in the assad regimes atrocities you are acting as judge and prosecutor russia is running from the facts your behavior exposes your true motives russia has the audacity to lecture the Security Council<\/a> this is a long political spectacle for not going to accept any russian proposal that undermines our ability to get to the truth we should at least have taken a look at the draft before rejecting it russia all on its own killed the mechanism we had specifically tasked to identify those responsible what do you need an investigative mechanism for before an investigation you havent cues the Syrian Government<\/a> of using chemical weapons. Emergency meeting or someone following claims that another chemical attack took place in syria on monday the reports were produced by. Militant sources that did not stop the u. S. Secretary of state saying that russia should shoulder the blame for that. Whoever conducted the attacks russia ultimately bears responsibility for the victims of these and countless other serious targeted with chemical weapons since russia became involved in syria. In essence a massive propaganda attack was conducted with the purpose of slandering russia on the world stage and undermining efforts for a peaceful settlement in syria the joint investigation mechanism jim was a stablished in twenty fifteen its accuse the Syrian Government<\/a> of carrying out several Chemical Attacks<\/a> including in concha kuhn in april last year even though no gym investigators ever actually visited that site where the gym mandate has now expired and moscow is requesting that changes are made in particular it wants site visits to be part of any future investigations russia also stresses the importance of eyewitness accounts and former u. K. Ambassador to syria peter ford says standards must be improved. But there is no independent corroboration of these reports and employ reasons to believe they are now discredited white helmet had chlorine gas being used it would have been a cloud which would have been visible and photographable so the report. Very hard to credit what was said simply not logical its almost comical in its absurdity regardless who used them grotesque its not serious the americans are not serious at all they just want to score points in their wrestling the big power game with russia. German media has revealed that the number of islamic extremists in southEastern Europe<\/a> is being under reported by the federal government thats based on classified documents obtained by Germanys Left Party<\/a> peter or investigates theres a growing threat from islamic extremism in europe based in the balkans and the German Government<\/a> is keeping it to itself thats according to a highly classified report thats being seen by some left party m. P. s the media. The German Federal<\/a> government cannot discount the basic threat posed by individuals and splinter groups in the islamist scene in Bosnia Herzegovina<\/a> the hush hush document goes as far as to claim that theres a direct link between radical islamic groups in Bosnia Herzegovina<\/a> and people in germany the true nature of what this heavily classified report says hasnt come out parts of it were redacted from the copy that was shown to the left party the federal government has been trying to downplay the growing islamist threat in public furthermore its entirely unacceptable that the government continues to cover up the role of the gulf states. My colleague charlotte devinsky traveled to Bosnia Herzegovina<\/a> back in december she witnessed firsthand the situation on the ground there regarding islamic radicalization the local a mom is telling me that some of the residents have joined Islamic State<\/a> in this forum a lot of the looting there are people who went to syria and forty on the side of i still but who tried to stop them or it looks like an ordinary sleepy village a few houses nestled between the hills not how you might imagine a cradle of terror. A local a mom says he fears for his life after speaking out against those who joined eisel we do this in a positive with these radical elements are always unpredictable and these people breed with me the aid at the same table as me and they want to shoot me this heavily edited version of the report issued by the government raises a lot of questions over what exactly germany knows about islamic radicalization in the balkans and how bad the situation actually is as we see in the arts or to our parliamentarian question the German Government<\/a> gives the extra time its expertize that it doesnt explicitly in the gate the possibility that single persons or groups work along to the islamistic scene of bosnia or else the governor could be a threat to germany and europe but in the same time the government denies to speak about it Financial Transactions<\/a> that are provided for example by the govt states or turkey to the burka states as well as the sending of the moms by the states and contrary to the German Secret Service<\/a> just now. The German Government<\/a> tries to hide the fact of growing danger coming from them is that groups from the public. If someone asks where are you from would you be offended that very question has stirred debate about racism after a social Media Campaign<\/a> was launched in sweden arties nature sethi explains where you from sounds like an innocent enough question doesnt it but it could land you in trouble heres why actually to explain that i first need to tell you about an online Campaign Launched<\/a> in sweden to help expose races them hash tag no stranger we hope to raise Awareness Regarding<\/a> the extensive issue of racism that actually does exist in sweden although many want to believe that we live in the worlds most tolerant country the idea is to check parents as a bank subject to. Racism and tens out asking why me from rob some people up the wrong way even though i was born here people always ask me where im from i hate it when they do that nobody put on a decide where my home is where i come from doesnt concern you and it shouldnt matter i say shouldnt we either ask people about their country of origin to be on the safe side. Well heres some advice from the man behind the hashtag no stranger campaign you can ask the question just make sure you do it right its ok to wonder about someones country of origin but it should not be the very first thing to ask a stranger about because the reaction that follows is usually very stereotypical and racist like youre from viet nam i think its quite terrible that you guys eat dogs. So its name fest all region night and no follow up questions. And finally on the Program Every<\/a> day household chores can actually be fun if youre floating in zero gravity has offered radio of the week straight from the International Space<\/a> station thank you. For your great these times. Thanks for joining us for the weekly here on international your sunday programming returning at the top of the hour. Heres what people have been saying about redacted in that it was simply just full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch oh yeah it is the john oliver of Marty America<\/a> is going to say we are apparently better than blue. Sky and see people you never heard of love redacted the night president of the world bank go hey im going to. Send us an email. Like so many clubs over the years so i know the guy you mean so i got. It all isnt only about what happens on the pitch. Pull the funnel school its about the passion from the fans its the age of the superman each kill the narrowness and spending two hundred twenty million on one player. Book its an experience like nothing else on to because i want to share what i think of what i know about the beautiful guy a great so well more transfer. And thinks this minute. There. Are. A lot of welcome to worlds apart in the twenty five years since the oath the process was launched it remains one of the most fruitful rounds of talks on the Israeli Palestinian<\/a> issue not only because of the formal accords it produced but also because it managed to put the protagonist in one room and have them talk to one another and some believe these direct exchange was only possible because gay marriage can spread out there as you can now the u. S. Administration tries to mediate between the israelis and the palestinians how big of a problem is the mediation itself well to discuss that im now joined by guests in boston founder and cochairman of the israel palestine creative rage no Initiative Mr<\/a> buskin thank you very much for your time its great to have you on the show thank you now i know that youve advised many Israeli Palestinian<\/a> International Leaders<\/a> on the middle east Peace Process<\/a> and now that. The u. S. Vice president mike pants has arrived to the region trying to restart this negotiating process once again i wonder if there is any advise that you would give him. Advice i would do for Vice President<\/a> pence and in fact i wrote to President Trump<\/a> on the first day of his ministration is that after so many years of negotiations the israelis and the palestinians need to know that the need to resolve this problem themselves they need to sit in the room by themselves and how shouter an agreement the United States<\/a> needs to inform the israelis and the palestinians that they will be there to help you free choir to provide bridging proposals to raise International Support<\/a> and finance for a Peace Process<\/a>. But if the israelis and the palestinians are going to be dependent on a third Party Mediator<\/a> it is unlikely that were going to find a mediator who is going to be able to bring the parties into the room and work out an agreement this is what weve seen over two decades already but mr barak and i think the end notable change over the past year is that its true i know it please that you believe that the americans were never an unbiased mediator but at least they went to great pains to come across as such we each had a certain restraining influence on all sides the trying but couldnt care less about it and im sure you know that in the in this speech before. Mr pans didnt make a single nod to the palestinians he didnt mention that world the word settlements even once and i think it was quite clear that the his administration is positioning itself not as a mediator or pretend mediator but as a fully fledged backer of one side how does it change the negotiating dynamic overall well there are no negotiations there havent been negotiations for more than four years so i dont think it really changes anything to be fair to Vice President<\/a> he did refer to keeping the status quo at the religious sites in jerusalem he called the temple mount to her almost surely from referring to that as being a place where muslims pray he did say that the israelis and the palestinians would need to agree on the borders and the sovereignty. In jerusalem and you did say that the United States<\/a> would support a two state solution if the two parties agreed on that so i think that there was room there but i dont believe that the trumpet ministration can be an impartial mediator or bring the parties into the room at this time mr. To respect if we compare it to the kind of overtures that he made israel for example telling the knesset that hes administration is going to expedite the whole process of moving American Embassy<\/a> to jerusalem i think if suddenly it doesnt feel like. Much ever and extended hand to the to the palestinians i know that back in december you didnt read much into these. Embassy moving proposal but now that the administration seems to be following through with that the standing ovation that it received in knesset as well as the netanyahu government overall efforts to get the most out of the Trumps Administration<\/a> do you feel concerned im very concerned not because the americans are going to move their embassy to jerusalem theyre going to move their embassy to west jerusalem and drew some has been the capital of israel for seventy years now its not recognised by the International Community<\/a> because the International Community<\/a> has believed that the drill solution needs to be resolved in a negotiated agreement between the jews and the arabs the israelis and the palestinians but i dont think the american moves with their embassy is really going to change anything on the ground did my mind what it does is it pushes up the urgency of reaching an agreement because the jerusalem issue is so sensitive and so much a core of the Israeli Palestinian<\/a> relationship that we need to resolve the issue of jerusalem even in the knesset yesterday the arab palestinian arab members of knesset held up a sign which in in english said jerusalem is the capital of palestine but in arabic it said East Jerusalem<\/a> they were very quickly whisked out of that room into which mr pamphlett sad that he believed that that was a sign of democracy believe it or not that those people were forcibly taken out of their own out of their room dont you think that they trumpet minister issue which is very unabashed an unashamed about its own tendencies is going to bring out the worst from the israeli Political Class<\/a> i dont have any expectations that the trumpet ministration can play the role of mediator we dont know if the trumpet ministration is going to present some kind of peace plan the ultimate deal the deal of the century that hes been talking about i think its very unlikely that hes going to put something on the table that both the. When the palestinians can agree to it is likely to be like prior american proposals much more buryas to the israeli position than the palestinian position in which case there wont be agreement and the israelis and the palestinians wont be able to reach a negotiation that will enable them to sign on the bottom line and find a solution for jerusalem and the two state solution the issue of borders the issue of settlements the issue of refugees the security relationship the. Ownership and the management of the Water Resources<\/a> all these issues need to be negotiated between the israelis and the palestinians and its unlikely that the trumpet ministration is going to pull the the rabbit out of the heart and find an agreement for all of these issues i dont have those expectations now i heard you say before that the american mediation historically lad to both these rallies and the palestinians talking to the americans rather than one another and if the americans are sidelined for one reason or another and at least for now the palestinians are refusing to talk to the americans could that facilitate a more direct exchange bit been going to ease of if of course theres talk of a command perhaps but i dont think theres much of a chance of talks Party Taking Place<\/a> between the israelis and the palestinians before we have changes of leadership in israel and palestine it seems that not to know Binyamin Netanyahu<\/a> is moving closer and closer toward an indictment interest hes going to be challenged by the israeli legal system of the israeli public of whether or not he can remain Prime Minister<\/a> and i think we all recognize that president abbas with all due respect to him is in the twelfth year of a four year term and lux little legitimacy on the streets of palestine even though he is the president and the leader most palestinians want new elections they want to be able to choose their new leader i dont see that dynamic where not in you know in abbas under any circumstances will come back into the room but we also have to face another reality these two people are here they exist side by side there is communication going back at a different function. No Technical Levels<\/a> electricity water taxes movement of Goods Movement<\/a> of people there is always going to be some relationship taking place between the parties and we have the occupation which continues in israeli settlement building and palestinian threats of use of violence its not a good situation we need to find a way to talk i dont see where the entry point is yet you said its not a good situation and it hasnt been good for many many decades and i think you would agree with me but this conflict has long needed some sort of a shake up that would just hold the teesside out of their complacency could be chump administration with all its controversial and very divisive decisions be that agent of change that would hasten the Expiration Date<\/a> for the status quo i wish its unlikely but trump could surprise us as i said his team his son in law. And Jason Greenblatt<\/a> and other people in the in the administration are working on a plan i think that from what we understand their plan is going to be based on a wider circle of Regional Cooperation<\/a> with jordan and egypt in the saudis and the emirates and the kuwaitis and other states in the region and certainly bringing in more players into the states and putting more goods on to the table could create opportunities for both israel and palestine but the core of this is israel and palestine the core is ending the Israeli Occupation<\/a> the chorus two capitals in jerusalem and a two state solution that has to be resolved and then supported from the outside i think that other International Players<\/a> such as russia and the European Union<\/a> the United Nations<\/a> also have a played a role a role to play here and they could make a contribution as well well let me ask you specifically about the European Union<\/a> because instead of meeting with fans Mahmoud Abbas<\/a> the Palestinian Authority<\/a> president traveled to brussels and its clear that the europeans who also happen to be the most generous donors to the palestinian territories. Quite in sounds to with what they see as trumps recklessness but they are also being that true self in a sense of being very slow very careful about what they say and what they do you do you think they will ever have and that in themselves to mosques or that courage to recognize the state of palestine as abbas has been pleading with them it seems that they wont be able to do that the European Union<\/a> is a complex body of twenty different twenty eight different sovereign countries we will see a process of individual countries perhaps recognizing palestine there are talks that slovenia might recognize palestine soon sweden has already done it certainly some Eastern Europe<\/a> European Countries<\/a> have done it in the past before they were members of the European Union<\/a> there are parliaments in the European Union<\/a> countries that have called on their governments to recognise public. I think this would be a positive development but i dont see it happening very quickly i ask you speaking here on russia today would would russia recognize the state of palestine would russia declare use troops on the capital of palestine well im pretty sure that russia will not be the first power to do that and thats precisely because of whats happening across israels border in syria because for russia the greatest stakes are there and risking the relationship they have at the moment of Prime Minister<\/a> netanyahu for nor clear benefit the geo political benefit or geopolitical certainty at this point of time i think russia would deem that as extremely risky thats why im asking actually about the European Union<\/a> because the European Union<\/a> is not involved in syria or in libya to such an extent so perhaps they have some leverage with all parties that they could employ deploy rather its too difficult for the European Union<\/a> representing so many countries to be able to make a decision which is so controversial so i think that we will see european policymakers encouraging individual countries to take steps that empower the Palestinian Authority<\/a> that recognizes props. 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