You know now theyre going to go into war pentagons lacing up their boots and their scientists to help stop fake news. So just so you understand what the sum up for program is looking there of looking to develop a subtle like 3 hour rhythms that would be that would consist of semantic detection which would bigger out of media was generated or manipulated ok they would have an attribution algorithm will would conclude whether you know where media work came from an organization or a person and finally theyre going to develop a characterization algorithm tablet that would determine if media was created or manipulated with malicious intent yes a computer algorithm will decide if media is created with a malicious intent or manipulated with the militia malicious intent thats an i dont know that i kept that. In the computer is going to decide what somebody meant by their joke is that thats a fact you cant tell the difference satire it joe. Any of those things so it all sort of i mean i get the idea of it looking at Something Like fakes road where you have videos that have been altered if you have images that have been altered if you have images that are purported to be of say with the amazon rain forest with the fires you had a lot of major outlets putting out putting out pictures that are from every dry season not the ones that were actually related to a specific. Story so i could be hopeful it could be but you know it goes back to the thing is like you know theres still going to be programmers involved at some point how do you decide what is or is not malicious content or what is or is not news i mean the democrats or republicans accuse each other of big news all the time who is going to decide what actually is right you know at the heart of the right and i dont know whats the problem with the u. S. Military gets to decide boy we trust thats always worked out really well so i dont know why. So when you as i what will darpas algorithm actually do with this like officially sanctioned like what happens to it ok so its there so one of the things that was a look at things like Fake Identities and using online ones theyre used to control im suspecting what they call and suspecting individuals and collaborating in fake f. B. I. Terror plots so you could easily be used you know what are going to do in that situation where its suddenly discovered going to be ive got a lot of profiles as oh thats fake and you know we know its there for a reason the government of the government itself including the pentagon has a pretty extensive history of running what you like you said fake social media profiles to collect data on persons of interest. M s n b c fox and c. N. N. Have all run quite literally fake news stories given to them by Law Enforcement in order to catch a criminal but not a part of the show to catch it you know but their idea was so and weve had people on the show this is going on for years where theyve literally had them put in false stories and propaganda major artist like you know the paris review of things like that so its one of those things are a mike what happens when a bumps up against some sort of special project. Comes back to the decides like oh well this is ok for news you know the algorithm will decide or will this is sanction news. And this is an extension got a new. Graduate sort of a fake news agent i think is going to read job here for. Me and. Rachel maddow probably did anyway im going to. Really i mean the whole scourge of fake news and while print you agree is that it really comes down to the way you stop it is through education is through teaching people to look for multiple sources for teaching people to question i mean Syracuse University assistant Professor CommunicationsJennifer Gray deal told bloomberg that darpas timeline does seem slow because its not going to be done by the 2020 lection which everyone so afraid of news influencing and she says i wonder if its a bit of a p. R. Move educating the public on Media Literacy along with legislation is what is important but elected officials lack motivation themselves for change and there is conflict of interest as they are though they are using these very platforms to get elected standard procedures put out fake news stories about your enemy think of the hundreds of millions of dollars that were spent by all campaigns on facebook on twitter. Will say well stay. Greater than 1440. 00 in college and london has instructed and shape the young minds of writers like ian fleming and George Orwell to adventure bear grylls and even prussian philosopher and economist karl marx however it is their lineage of political heavyweights that has always kept the Expensive School for boys 13. 00 to 18. 00 in the headlines 20 Prime Ministers including David Cameron and Alexander Boris the festival johnson yes that Boris Johnson have intended his application process can take at least 3 years to complete a process that was discovered has 13 to 14 year old boys writing speeches to excuse government sanctioned violence and a question that begins with this passage from the prince by niccolo machiavelli begins concerning cruelty and clemency and whether it is better to be loved. Then feared and it states a prince so long as he keeps his subjects united and loyal ought not to mind the reproach of cruelty because with a few examples he will be more merciful than those who through too much mercy allow disorders to override is it then posits a scenario that is its 24. 00 and the u. K. Is experiencing riots gas shortage that leads to the applicant the Prime Minister to call in the army who subsequently kill 25. 00 protesters the 2011 application for this collar shipped to eton college then asked applicants to quote write the script for a speech to be broadcast to the nation in which you explain why employing the army against violent protesters was the only option available to you and which one which was both necessary and moral so whos excited to spend 40000. 00 pounds a year to have their sons taught the proper way to crush the peasants but need their boots yet wow good blow a while ago so your talk about 1314 year old kid did what most prestigious schools it spits out all of these great leaders and things like that are leaders. Great leaders. And one of the questions i asked them to essentially. How do you do if the government killing protesters. Just wow if that doesnt tell you a lot of leaders are. In this world im just i dont litter trained. Im like thats how they get that how that happens in the schools so you understand the school is one of the original 9 sort of english Public Schools are a little different than we have here theyre still a c. But theyre somewhat independent but also dont pay like 80 percent of their total so it all works out for that sort of the Public Schools act of 860. 00. So they used to actually require saying it takes 3 or so you say now to get your kid signed up start at 10 a is better but a regionally for a very long time you had to sign up and register your son for even the possibility of application there at birth war that was so. Specific and so thats prestigious not exclusive so this application was part of a Scholarship Application from 2011. And whats sad to think about that is a scholarship is probably someone who comes from a more middle class working class background and theyre being asked like hey you know when unions of people who are like you and where you came from we know and they rise up against power can you explain how we can do that morally shoot them down for protesting if they dont have enough. And what really gets me about this too is when you really think about it it just it just makes that it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up because of what wow you know it be one thing if the school had like write an essay either condemning it or justifying it as you and your there are choices you know what would you say you know now that i can see it but want to know you only can justify it i dont know what thats like where were they try to put it i mean whats interesting is the scholarship youre speaking of Boris Johnson was actually recipient of the kings scholar though its not known of the application right this particular question of when he applied this was only found in the 2011 scholarship up with his you dont know what actually more interesting questions you may have to do and i know i might assume your worst kind of got it is a very odd application to you because then it has this like made up language of the 2nd one. And it gets a little odd so there was a guy wrote to 2 individuals one of them it was Adam Nicholson he wrote a book called about it and about his time at eton and how they sort of private boarding schools sort of fact everybody and he described his experience there like this there was always a real sense that we were kind of the elite in every way socially intellectually educationally and financially. You tell me you know just google. You know its one of those things where its i heard a lot of jokes but i think its a very odd situation when you look at this idea. Yeah boy like just not a good question may have been a good commodity all right as we go to break watchers dont forget to let us know what you think of the topics weve covered on our social media be sure to check out watching the hawks the podcast which is now available on spotify apple music and everywhere you may was and your favorite podcast coming up we delve into all things china in the United States and take an indepth look at the protests the trade war and tech giant why wait stay tune to watch for the whole. Thanks. Thanks thanks. Said she stressed to make sure that the boat nash wasnt at the middle of the internet yet the world must turn. South asia was so here she then taste the face traditions have a cia bush quote all show. You which book i thought which is enough time and i know what you mean and i must get your girl in there for sure. Or to go to the show through my its your bonus for to be. 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China has dominated the news cycles over the past several months likes to 3 major stories coming out of and involving the peoples republic 1st the contrary surface controversy surrounding the United States versus the number one Telecom Supplier in the world while way and not shall this involve the u. S. Government accusing the tech giant of spying and of having malicious ties to the Chinese Government that story played a part in the bigger tale that was the ongoing trade war instigated by the trumpet ministration against china and now currently wreaking havoc on the economies of the 2 superpowers and 3rd has been the ongoing demonstrations and protests in hong kong over chinese. Womens push to change the extradition agreements that has with the region the protests began back in march and april and now continued into september r. T. Americas Michelle Greenstein is in hong kong with news of what many think could be a potential breakthrough that could bring these demonstrations to an end after 3 months of protests violent clashes between the Hong Kong Police and antigovernment demonstrators 1100. 00 arrests and what some are calling the biggest political crisis in hong kong since it was returned back to china in 1907 hong kong chief executive carrie lim finally withdrew that contentious amendment to extradition law today now she explained that this is a bill that had already been temporarily shelf and that it was scheduled to actually automatically be withdrawn next year in july however now she is officially withdrawing it today to remove any doubt about her intentions additionally she addressed the remaining 4 demands from these antigovernment protesters were guarding the issue of Police Brutality she says that there is already an investigation into this alleged Police Brutality by the Hong Kong Police and that she is fully intends to cooperate with the complaints counsel investigation in this matter now regarding the riot designation the protesters had requested that the riot designation be removed and that the be called protesters instead of rioters she says that this will happen on a case by case basis and that there will not be a blanket and designation of these protesters being called rioters now regarding the issue of unconditional amnesty for all those arrested in connection with this socalled Democracy Movement she says that this is an issue about the rule of law and that again this will happen on a case by case basis now were guarding democracy regarding universal suffrage she says that 1st we need communication between all parties that are based on the grounds of trust and in order to do that she says 1st there needs to be an end to the violence additionally she pledged that she and other government officials would. Going out into the communities speaking to members of society from all walks of life she said and they would be working to combat some of these social inequities to work to eradicate some of these economic disparities including the lack of Land Availability for a lot of people in hong kong now she is stressing that dialogue is what solve these problems that violence is pushing hong kong to a very dangerous territory and that even though protesters may have legitimate grievances with both the Central Government and the Hong Kong Government that the most important thing she says to do right now is to defend the rule of law now i witness the protester reaction just a couple hours ago i attended one of the press conferences given by some of these anonymous antigovernment demonstrators and their reaction is unsatisfied to say the very least they say that this withdrawal quote has not changed a thing and they are stressing that this battle continues there reiterating their for demands and theyre saying that they will continue this fight this is certainly been a Violent Movement weve seen last weekend at the very least we saw rubber bullets tear gas and Water Cannons being used by the Hong Kong Police and the weekend before that one Police Officer actually fired his revolver into the air as a warning shot although no one was injured and it was the 1st time that Hong Kong Police have actually fired a real weapon in this regard not including a gun with rubber bullets which some may say show a bit of restraint from the Hong Kong Police although many say that this extradition law being totally withdrawn may mean that some of these demonstrations are going to and its very possible that that is not the case given the reaction from some of these protest leaders the situation is very fluid additionally beijing has stressed and reiterated its unconditional authority to declare a state of emergency given the situation here in hong kong. Joining us now is intrepid reporter was covered the ongoing trade war tensions between the United States and china extensively this year and recently returned from an indepth visit to the wall where headquarters in china are 2 americas sara months the orchestra will also be presenting a half hour special on the ongoing controversy in fallout from the trade war and titled battlefield markets me trade wars that you can see this thursday live at 2 pm eastern on r. T. America thank you for joining us thank you for having me you know is the trade wars been going on for over a year now theres theres no deal in sight to it what is your take from from a different perspective during your time in china and hong kong what is what is your take from there and this why i think ive said this a few times before and i can repeat it once again that what i heard is as nobody wants to trade or im the United States they want to trade or china doesnt want to trade where hong kong is being affected not as much as Mainland China but still theyre being affected and you know wall and other companies are being pulled in to this trade war and and really its is it about trade that theres more to it theres tech now theres ip theft theres a lot that goes into this trade war and President Trump has said it time and time again that this is something that needed to be done by previous president s and that this was huge for him and and its its kind of become a big thing for his present presidency and now for his Reelection Campaign is whether or not hell make a deal one minute theyre close to making a deal the next minute theyre not so the take i really really got from just being there was that they dont see an end to this trade war theyre hopeful that it might end with some sort of partial deal but again when i come home an