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And is i kept last night except kristin. Theyre going to cook up this is the broccoli. Then. This is i think that is all it. That we dont like or. Political but it was president how do you appointed you you dont agree with him now on the use of drone strikes which president hadi does in fact even the saudis tokio maliki run the Arab Coalition in london last week he said there have to be investigations into saudi war crimes is hardly the problem is it time now for the United Nations to abandon putting hardy back in power in yemen i cannot accuse ringback that had the now now we have maybe she asked and we have to get the government which it will. A that interested community when we have tools we have to all stand and not to the end not. Of course but anyway if we want the truth were doing to us that cause this is all. And law is on closer to sharon yeah but that of the many she has against that all. Out of the lot this is the prophet yeah. And we accepted how the n. T. We are now better that election and we. Are going to try and own under consideration and. Then around their new election maybe another figure so theyre pretty to see and elaborate in but i want to know what no one is going to vote no one is going to vote for hardly in a yemeni general election given how he was in saudi arabia the country that is bombing yemen. Yes how they asked are they out of here to support their head here in tool restored by what i had to go back to. That i didnt see. But anyway ringback it takes a long time it declares taken 5 years and and so many people to react have been killed what it would have you made of the trumpet ministration which says and it gave 700 46000000. 00 in aid just in 2019 its saying were not going to give any more aid because some of it goes to hooty communities poor hoody communities britain as well if its saying no more aid maybe its given. Hundreds of millions of pounds of aid what do you make of the United States and britain saying no more aid to yemen. Really this news it is shocking because there are now you know men in very bad need for assistance for arabs for god theyre going to stand a community but anyway this is also it is a lot that much. When whats really become what should be there that they have from where theyre going to this if they had appiah over but anyway i think also that is that is shocking when we when i have the out that. They let their. Position theyre not. The problem in the m. And. If and when theyre cut off its not that is really shocking. It is there for any citizen with a hearing like this of yours where you know the trump says because iran theyre allied to the hutus thats why he cant give money that goes to poor women and children in hootie communities in yemen when you know that was the. Misuse of. The air stop the United Nation edges this if you will. Its one of their its a part of their. Efforts there. There is that many problems but anywhere so we are sticking above that my duty but they have to be politically needful of these headed. We have to reach that get it could all. Just on targeting there was a party here in london very Expensive Party of grove now its people from the b. B. C. Of spoken their arms Company Party not being part of the britain earned. 6. 2000000000 pounds in weapons licenses since 2015 and thats what oxfam says do you think britain in the United States they see yemen as a place to earn money from the killing more than to give aid to the people suffering the killing. We hope we hope that the. International there are going to see a show and especially the laws are working on a process. That will stop putting on a ceiling that witnesses to the laws in forth in a war in a man and im sure i should actually say it was actually 770000000 pounds of aid from the british taxpayer to yemen and britain says actually the arms sales are good arms sales we have a good arm sales policy here in britain when we send weapons that are bombing your country. We hope we hope that their god and. Barack off the many bad of these several. 100 people for. The amount because we need a lot of. A lot of money to let it be. I mean that helps thats the question of the there or answer. To. This. And thats why we want them to all. Of you expect to be going to yemen any time soon i hope that we can get it off there this is us and well be back to. My country itll all be there. With the women we had actually we added. That in it and we are we made for on a friend. A political background and many of us as also the at it had been there all of the time we were working on that one Peace Process and what we are going to do all after the war what impact should i ask i said the britain and 8 times more from weapons sales than aid trump is saying no more aid maybe to yemen. Saudi arabia do you think saudi arabia is going to cut aid as well obviously saudi arabia has been spending money on british weapons. I mean. I think they are committed to. The amount of support to find out that evolution with. His story. And we have me and my knees before the floor of the world we have many of minnys many immigrants is that you have there is. That relationship between us out. There there will be equal with now they have fallen dition. But thats not what journalists say on the ground journalists on the ground say there is a hatred of saudi arabia which is why they bombed around go from yemen the Saudi Oil Facilities but it is and i literally was there and also the board of that u. N. I expect that is. Not true that that will seize they dont have. The abilities or the. Time to get it. I mean it is fighting with the stat it is fired away from their abilities as it was started by. My county maybe. But not well but lots of that goes it if i we thought we had meant this that ok iran completely denies that area measuring thank you thank you after the break. Riots music with Boris Johnson pushing for tougher sentences cracking down on left wing voices and deporting people of color has anything really changed in the past 100 years of british history we are coordinating alto saxophonist so we do can choose a new album the black apparel explores the legacy of 9. 00 to 19. 00 or more coming up or part 2 of going underground. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see that. Politicians do something. They put themselves on the line they did accept the reject. So when you want to be president im sure. Some want to. Let you go right to the press this is what the 3 of them or people. Interested always in the waters about how. Things should. Be facing. The kind of good intentions revived. In crescent and maybe even 40 years ago simply evaporated to sit on the principles. Welcome back in part one we had about the worlds worst humanitarian crisis which continues to involve Boris Johnsons Government Back home and only in power of few months johnson has been assailed by critics and Campaign Groups for perceived tory injustices from deportation of british people of color to regressive law and order policies to the prescribing of progressive groups as terrorist threats the black peril and you all but my multi mobile Award Winning sex softness soweto kinch looks to the politics of 1990 mm to fight the establishment of 2020 joins me now its a way to thanks but i dont have a go and im going to get on to the album in a 2nd but the labor Leadership Debate on television here in britain Jeremy Corbin outgoing said it was a case of a young white boy with blond hair related doubled in class a drugs and conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist would they deport that boy or is it one rule for young black boys born in the caribbean and another for white boys born in the us. So its fired any leader like that in the debate its just a generic is likely but i love the fact this is free wheeling shooting from the hip 2015 jeremy unfettered you dont have to explain to the audience how we can say that Boris Johnson in any way presumably the guy would want to dabbled in class a drugs conspired with a friend to beat of a journalist i mean this is defamation of our Prime Minister says the beautiful thing that sort of himself has said it michael gove himself the half of the front bench of admitted dabbling in class a drugs lost at university was disease this is the german corbin that we wanted to see more of in the last election frankly and any leader of the labor party any socialist leader is going to have to be a lot more confrontational direct irreverent all those things that were dealing with in this clip. Ok but the government is saying that the deportations of people of color are nothing to do with race or plus course or is not to do with it just so happens that there ought to make and then being sort of i mean this is the kind of poppycock gaslighting discussions of race from race that i think most people of color are being subjected to now in the country as something so overtly and obviously racist thats a dog whistle to most of the country theres still a an error plus a pool deniability about. What weve got to deal with criminality weve got to deal with drug abuse etc when you put these things empirically together then you realise it really has nothing to do with criminality and its more about signifying to the rest of the country that we represent the interests of a white majority and will do anything to ever voices peoples people from countries that we dont agree with lane or the government will completely deny that and i know i mean be feel free to talk about it in the context of 919 all those years ago but we have a more multicolored cabinet there never never had a situation like that and youre talking about racism was a bit in the days of Margaret Thatcher this is just it i think they like to keep us disc. Cussing racism is really superficial most pantomime level and weve had 2 female Prime Ministers both of them tories and yet Living Standards for the majority of women the degree of equal pay is still an issue neither premiership did much to advance the interest of true feminism and the same is true with the most diverse cabinet that weve had in history but yet the most xenophobic and openly hostile towards immigrants and refugees and so its a way of brown washing if you like black and brown washing was still empirically the most racist xenophobic and white supremacist cabinet that weve ever had in this country again the governor would deny that never said that you said but as to administrations it was in fairness to resume not Boris Johnson who took on an old style of course and you have to i mean this might seem quite tender gentle here but what the Klu Klux Klan where hoods they dont walk around with a badge saying a member of the Klu Klux Klan and this is all about signification its all about subtlety and about giving a nod to people who do have those white supremacist views that were on your side well of course in fact it was the blairite and the blair labor body the broadly in the 27. 00 act gordon brown the labor Prime Minister brought in legislation that allows deportation of people of color in the 1st place so it was a labor Prime Minister in 1945 Clement Attlee who described the west indian people people come from the colonies as an incursion so theres a long history of the labor party being complicit with tacit racism so i always want to get straight to the just tell me about the likely ireland why it has something to do with 919. 00 and i would tells us something in 22 went absolutely the black peril is based on a very real history of race riots that was called race riots that took place 100 years ago in 1019 from liverpool to Glasgow Cardiff South Shields whole areas that i didnt expect enough black people to even have a race riot in my history book whats interesting to me about this moment in 2020 and how it relates to the. 100 years ago is that. Juncture where the working classes seem to be gaining more traction more awareness of commonality of interception at sea when there is a credible challenge to the establishment racism is always funneled out into these communities to basically help people against their natural allies ring it on to how you translate that to music that youre talking about protests then what did you make of it when that list propped up of Extinction Rebellion and all these different groups greenpeace and oh theyre going see the terrorist groups on that piece of paper this is the march of creeping fascism really theres no other way to describe it to prescribe certain groups and thoughts as banned as errant is absolutely a sliding scale towards authoritarian fascism. Is not the way to call it frankly what i do think though is that theyre also preparing the ground for spontaneous insurrection spontaneous rage everyones just really angry you find this in the personal interactions you have of people in the train etc and i just find do yes not just everyone is wired so i think its important to draw attention to these instances because they cant at the racism the racist superstructure underneath it its not that i have any beef with a coach driver or trade train driver but its also to signify to everyone else going through those situations youre not crazy youre not imagining this heightening of racial tension between people and lets step back and analyze this psychosis white psychosis being called whos really benefiting from it and hes been disadvantaged by it because its my very strong contention that everybody is being disadvantaged by White Supremacy including the supposed White Working Class you know the way these issues are covered in Corporate Media which is its all about the oscars and the bafta isnt this kind of thing simply you dont have much truck with the key do. And it should be said malcolm x. Never particularly addressed the oscar i dont know why that was are not mutually exclusive i think you can just as well have pink it or you know it was complaining about the lack of diversity but we should always talk back to people that my good friend kinda andre is pointing out that theres a systemic and International Racism that means that life outcomes you know infant mortality education housing these are the indices in which we can really measure racism and what racism really means is this because the class dimension is another superstructure which is why debate seems to just be confined to that didnt exist as a construct of people actually understood how engineer and artificial the whole thing the whole history of race was then wed naturally find allies with people that we identify with i want to think that i found really key throughout the last Election Campaign was how they could create a shorthand for a just. Venezuela a few of the buzz words and it seems to sum up everything that. We think of as anti british and. Of course this country used to have and were going to be as far as 1919 but in the eightys race today we had the coeditor laid on who said maybe diane abbott would never even been she had a secretary without a at least a magazine that was putting these in articulating these issues where they were all gone then i believe almost observations that we live in a far more atomized society than we have any point in my in my memory even at the time of the mine destroyed the poll tax riots you know i still remember. Very active working mens clubs very active organizations for unity and solidarity of black and asian people students etc because the racism was so offensive and so clear you knew what the enemy was and the fact you had to organize they had to be solidarity in collective action to overcome those things when out of the age where that thatcher ideal of anyone being able to make it on their own pull themselves up by the bootstraps has filtered down and cross roots organizations and we no longer feel that need to have collective action and they are mindful of another fact and very pointed out to me that in 1919 Marcus Garvey had over 6000000 members of the u. N. I a with no facebook no instagram to speak of no phones widely but the conditions of oppression was so clear the material disadvantage was so obvious that we had to organize and i think now were living under this delusion that things have somehow improved because weve had a black president a few black m. P. s you know i should say the 9091 politics right actually brought down. I have to say with the labor leadership going on here lisa nally all these different candidates who werent really great friends arguably of Jeremy Corbyn they will be emphasizing their anti racist and identity politics credentials to take over what corbin has created is the largest socialist movement in west europe. I say this to many people have discussions about politics with really cut through all the rhetoric all of the ballast all of the. Platitudes and what is their voting record what are their policies if you looked into the house the famous image of the vote in the house when the vote was going down around the world when rush scandal just before it was even a scandal only 3 members of parliament turned up to vote against that bill and we know who they were dying John Mcdonald in germany called in everybody else even david levy who i think is a fantastic voice against this injustice didnt vote against it when they had the opportunity and that should tell us something really clear about that posture who they like the pope and who actually backs their words with action ok with joe musically lets talk about the music on the album how we reflect take all the complexity and i have to say you probably do reflect it really well try musically how did you go about reflecting such complex plexi in music i mean any pretensions so accurately depicting all the forms of black music that were around a 100 years ago would have been pretentious but i was very inspired by the research that i did the want to read music that you wrote left right music that in some instances i was reconstructing historical music write music specifically as a piece i wanted to chinle in energy a feeling of terror and excitement that black music has given us historically and still gives us today i find whether its drill jungle are you know double bass or grime all these forms of music that weve innovated here in the u. K. Theres both this powerful revulsion and tara that we seem to engender oh my gosh the young generation are losing their way to the metropolitan police is interested in july music this is the 1st time in recorded history. Had a song banned and were banned from performing it so thats a worrying precedent prescribe forms of music and not. But also were fascinated by black culture we want to emulate it and i think its this tension in britain that we love youll read gay love youre called the fall in love everything about you but you think that you think youre going to support drill minister for mayor of london for that made me into a minister need to be build and weve discussed it weve talked up a little bit of the thing that great friend of mine in music partly because there was pointed out. You know black liberation figures are often global liberation figures because they say if you at the bottom of some suppose that hierarchy can liberate yourselves emancipate yourselves then we all can say thank you thank you and so waiters album the black peril is out now and in a moment hell play us out with riots music from the album will be back on wednesday ahead of the Nevada Democratic president ial caucus to d. N. C. Voter electoral fraud with the diana vote just as great by last until then keep in touch via social media heres a way to cant with write music. This is. A saddam. Was trying to straddle the battle so what about his savages kind of a must win as it is just. Trying to have his dad and his head up with the kids. About it excites you about is this a reason to. Recompute. The doses not with rights in the future. Wont. Show when i was. Once they go back and. So laid back to a standstill how they still stand and how do you think just because they. Had todays high stakes. Now they will tell you. Why they. Come and see come to see on top. Of the. Older boys buoyancy flamboyance like the fold. It seems now believes that the point is. Its destroying employees in the populace this noise is the opposite the problem is that the competition to find a book. Called this is called going to 6 also to see. The. Strong. Statement that the use of the presence of people to be the peasantry oppressed to get the free 27. 00 people out of the Political Climate i believe. Is the right. In munich World Leaders this goes once listeners instead we should be contemplating the. News and also stone cold justice is there a duty justice system. I dont trust medical authority at all ever and the reason for that is i had this horrible autoimmune disorder growing up and it turns out it was completely alleviated with very drastic dietary measures and i went to a number of doctors to discuss what happened to me and i was basically laughed at like diet has nothing to do with autoimmune disorders so my suggestion to people who have Health Issues they cant figure out if theyre going to see a medical professional and theyve been going for 10 years and theyre still in the same place they should probably take it upon themselves to Start Testing things out testing out diet testing out exercise and try and figure out things on their own. This is a pretty you go problem with not a movie star but in your circles modesty. And you dont look for the do much for clues a little it made it clear to me when theyre. Looking. At. The lighting good sort of when youre already in the assumes that you have them you know made it seems to tracy. 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