A gauge of 91. 00 look at his legacy of his 30 years in power. Hello live from moscow the national with me daniel hawking this wherever you are tonight thanks for joining us. Now this tuesday was the 2nd day of wiki leaks founder Julian Assange is hearing on extradition to the u. S. Where the whistleblower is wanted on espionage charges if handed over you could be facing a 175 Year Prison Sentence for his role in the publication of classified intelligence data. The latest. Day 2 with willage crown court and we have this song cheering supporters have been out in full force again we can hear them chanting throughout the proceedings now we had the defense talking today talking about why these allegations should be thrown out of course they talked about mrs mannings involvement in the release of the 2002006200 extension 7 iraq talk documents the iraqi diaries and obviously the release of the collateral murder video saying that she felt that her conscience required her to release those documents. Julian assange as she was handcuffed 11 times prior to the course of these hearings stripped naked twice and his case files called the skated after the 1st day of his extradition hearing according to his lawyers thats been told and they complained of interference and his ability to take part but of course the court has said that they cant intervene in this so we will have to see whether the prison authorities do actually come forward and answer those questions as to why that happened now we did manage to talk to former british diplomat and whistleblower craig murray i dont really reasonably well the. Very obvious evidence of his mental and physical detail you they should be taking. People. I was when i was in college you can find many. Many months in solitary theres a little more contact not allowing contact this was not allowing his papers stealing all this paper should be embassy not allowing him a computer. The stars of. The United Nations special of. Mind to psychological torture and i have no i dont know when i see the person i know i couldnt i can feel he is under suffering the facts of torture i have no doubt about in my mind at all why i think its entirely. The most. Interesting thing of all saying it was that struck every single observer ive spoken to is just how amazingly hostile openly hostile the magistrate is to everything with the sense to say its all suggests. And. Plainly the entire these of for the prosecution in the 1st place. Is surely in the United States that the evidence of americas war crimes and corruption with which with the leaks exposed and with with finally got to waivers up for the year they are playing out in court i think anybody who believes this is a genuinely independent political process is very naive indeed. The prosecution has argued that a songs knowingly put hundreds of lives at risk when you publish troves of classified u. S. Military files without redacting names and other Sensitive Information and washington playing that following those leaks back in 2010 sources disappeared in iraq afghanistan and iran or the wiki leaks founder is also accused of a courage in the whistleblower an Army Intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning to hack the pentagons Computer Network songes defense team have sought over to counter those allegations buttressing their case with previously the under school over information they claim publisher actually warned the then secretary of state clinton about the leaks to ensure the safety of those individuals in question those who appeared in the videos documents they also stressed that assad has activities are protected by the principles of press freedom and his lawyers have also strongly rejected the assertion that he encouraged manning to hack the pentagon saying our own testimony this proves that allegation furthermore they say extradition will undermine their Clients Health and that prison conditions in the u. S. Can be inhumane and degrading kevin only spoke earlier to weaken and chief about the proceedings what happened today and what you make of the arguments for june was signed his extradition presented so far yesterday we heard a very shallow and hollow are your words from the u. S. That have since then yesterday afternoon as closely this morning been torn apart by the lawyers of julian of science they are basically presenting to the drugs that she has to take into consideration that the extradition request is based on fabrication and they can easily be improved by publicly available information. That is available to the states so the abuse here is that the English Court is being misled by americas they are trying to abuse the process of evolution does it feel like when you walk in does it feel extremely. The ominous what it feel like the conditions at the Court Hearing here are totally inadequate for a hearing of the officer importance julian is in the dock behind bulletproof glass he hears it often that he has a hard time hearing whats going on in the room its a rather small courtroom and as i said very small space for the public very small space for the media and this is. Somewhat not what i expected for a very important to hearing you think youd ever get a fair trial in the u. S. My primary concern is that well get a fair trial here the u. K. Its important that the outcome here is just and its monitored and every abuse is highlighted on a day to day with a basis. Of britains 4 time olympic champion and top insurance around a mo farah is facing fresh media scrutiny over claims he repeatedly lied to us the open officials about his alleged use of a controversial supplement alexy to shove he has more. This summer the whole of Great Britain will be glued to their screens rooting for the nations prize athlete 4 time olympic champion runner more or will they and you panorama documentary by the b. B. C. Has cost further doubt on whether more farah success was cleanly won the dont fall back to salazar who coached serve me to. What to do to win at all costs the main Sticking Point is the role of former coach Alberto Salazar who was banned in october 29th for 4 years from any sports activities he was the head of the controversial nike oregon project until the u. S. Antidoping agency suspected he may have banned the doping rules one of those substances he used was l. Carnitine designed to speed up muscle and heart recovery for athletes its considered legal indows this which did not exceed 50 millimeters over 6 hours salazar however reportedly invented a new method of administering l. Carnitine through intravenous injections which itself sparked questions from u. S. Antidoping authorities it hasnt been secret that more have had injections of the substance prior to the London Marathon in 2014 but the new documentary opens a fresh can of worms namely about the relationship between salazar and u. K. Athletics mead barry head of Long Distance running it still employed by the organization in 2014 he reportedly flew to switzerland to obtain the 1 karni team in a form which could not have been acquired in the u. K. He did not document this trip even though he had to hes called the u. K. Athletics dr rob chakravarty reportedly administered the injections to more and yet he didnt report it either even though it is against the rules to prevent he later said he simply forgot to do that over working and travelling better than usual occurrence this is very specific medicine was required sourced a great difficulty given against the initial advice of the doctor being the city records of it and there were dishonest equal. But the even more bizarre case of forgetfulness occurred with more himself when you saw the investigators came to question him 1st he staunchly denied that he used l. Carnitine left the interrogation but then came back and changed his account having spoken to barry fudge. Never taking comments in injections at all i just wanted to come clean sorry go and i did take it at the time and i thought i didnt its all comes back for me but at the time i didnt remember more farrahs lawyer says the athlete just didnt get the question now having seen the documentary the u. K. Antidoping agencys c. E. O. Nicole sapp said said she the agency was ready to cooperate and even called usada investigation robust we thank the Panorama Team for their efforts the program is another example of the importance of Investigative Journalism regards and Integrity Matters in sports u. K. And to doping Agency Support of the u. S. Anti doping agency with their investigation into the nike oregon project we believe us and to do in agencies investigation was extensive and robust but just a month ago the u. K. Openly refused to hand over more all to doping probes to usada for retesting now theres no word whether this these new revelations would lead to the much sought retesting of probes because who knows what kind of further controversies surrounding the pride of britain sport such a move would uncover after this latest panorama bombshell we asked a socialist and former sports lecturer at of cashmore and swing coach Marjorie Hendricks for their thoughts on the scandal. Im sorry i just dont buy the fact that some will or some people could be so forgetful if someone injects a substance into you you dont forget you can just walk away and say no they didnt do it and then sometime later say oh i forgot it happened it keeps a now this is all through pete over the last 24 hours we did nothing that wasnt compliant with wada protocols you know if this al connotate is ok if administered in the right dosage yes but theyre also saying it may not be within the spirit of sport what does that mean you know this to me is it is so a very legal or is it theres no 2 ways about it and if there has been a violation of a lot of code then im afraid u. K. Athletics has to be brought to justice so i sing thats all a little bit funny what happened now and this time in the. City yes association at 1st more far set i dont take a look at and t. And suddenly he sings he has he taken it and the u. K. Asleep it doesnt say shit chief medical officer says it was legal and nothing was documented its for me or a big lie sometimes i wonder if. Its or a doctor saying that people are stupid imagine the same thing happened in the russian this time would be blocked again for the next or another for 4 years but the same like knowledge in the u. K. Is a small scene. 3 days of mourning have been outstanding egypt after its former president Hosni Mubarak died on tuesday at the age of 91 barak served as the countrys 4th head of state run for 30 years before he was deposed youre in the arab spring protests that erupted karo in only 2011 of course has this report. Hosni mubarak leaves behind a mixed legacy on the one hand he is credited with turning the egyptian economy into a market one and also mediating in a number of middle east conflicts ensuring also that the israeli egyptian peace treaty that was signed in 1999 remained in place but on the other hand he came to symbolize everything that people thought was wrong with egypt widespread corruption economic stagnation and political repression and now he came to power after the assassination of anwar sadat he saw that us as a nation up close and he spent much of his nearly 3 decades in power making sure that islamic extremists would never come to power and that a police state would ensue now we felt some of that heavy handedness when i reported from Tahrir Square in the early part of 2011 myself and the other journalists often felt the brunt of tear gas that was sprayed at us and this sometimes 1000000 protesters who came out to the streets at the same time i would often have a laser beam shining into my face i remember asking some of the protesters what they felt would be the legacy of mubarak and they say that he had many to unite egyptians ironically unite them against his own leadership it was just it was 6 people in the last town square as you can see heating oil and occupation i peoples voices here are loud but theyre being drawn down by 16 is that mig 21 is trying to hit me but it is not going down without a fine small break was forced to resign and that resignation was welcomed by washington despite the fact that for the better part of 3 decades he had been a close ally of the United States interesting lee in 2011 in the year that he was signed washington gave Something Like more than 1000000000. 00 in military aid to Egypt Mubarak was replaced by morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood who proved to be one popular and leave it. In a situation that was even more unstable than it had been before. We have heard from the current president. He says that mubarak was a military leader and a war hero and 3 days of mourning has been declared in the country. Is the Political Editor of the middle east magazine who shared with us his recollections of meeting. I dont do them several times and you know has a good really good sense of humor when i interview them at my panama hat then said oh i like your advise i would love to see it 5 dollars in your chin were meaning its yours well im afraid your excellencys it is too big to fit you know he was really relaxed with his of your. Dogs when i sent them who was big headed. To fit him he said thats a very that it would have you actually considered selling jaws at cafes and bars as a 2nd career and so i asked well least one to mr president that is copyrighted you cant use it so anyway so he cant actually theres a loss and. He was quite relaxed about it and he also let society be modernized and the other nazi and allowed his nomic evangelists on t. V. And passed through islamist laws he tried to a bit to make the state a beer more islamic then theres the mess hes actually fighting and that actually led to islamization as your chance to Society Making who like daraa in afghanistan and that way for the Muslim Brotherhood took up. The front runner for the u. S. Democratic partys 2020 president ial nomination has provoked by partisan anger by staunchly defending Literacy Programs in Fidel Castros cuba the selfstyled socialist remarks were initially made in a c. B. S. Interview in which he also stressed he condemns all forms of author of terrorism were very opposed to believe or 3rd period but you know its unfair to simply say Everything Else but you know when fidel castro came into office you know what he did he had a Massive Literacy Program result a bad link. Senator sanders comments on fidel castro are ill informed and insulting to thousands of for radians castro was a murderous dictator who oppress his own people his Literacy Program was an altruistic it was a cynical afr to spread is dangerous philosophy and consolidate power after 4 years of looking on in horror as drum cozied up to dictate is we need a bread and who will be extremely clear in standing against regimes that violate human rights a brode we cant risk nominating someone who doesnt recognize this fidel castro left a dark legacy of forced labor camps religious repression widespread poverty firing squads and the murder of thousands of his own people but sure bernie lets talk about his Literacy Program. Well the Campaign Team of Bernie Sanders rival Mike Bloomberg was quick to trying to capitalize on the divisive comments posted a series of satirical tweets with the hash tag bernie on their sports imagining the month senator lavishing praise on a number of tyrants and perceived strongmen overtly to deleted them after facing criticism lets get some more reaction now were joined by Daniel Schorr latin american professor at City University of new york Richard Goodstein a political consultant and he won and labor rights thanks for joining us gentlemen great to have you on the program today. Daniel schorr who that is if i can start with you perhaps i dont think anyone can argue literacy is a bad thing Literacy Programs thats probably we could all agree on that but isnt this an error of judgment on Bernie Sanders part given there are lots of countries with good Literacy Programs with social programs and robust human rights records i mean this is surely shooting one self in the foot before important electoral race. You know once again spineless democratic stablish mean shows their true colors its like a litmus test every time you can say one positive word about cuba or the one word in defense of venezuelan sovereignty they want to make sure theres no critique and so imperialist critique of the u. S. Foreign policy establishment so this is a very sophisticated form of censorship to try to narrow the perimeters as we have more and more debates within the Democratic Party coming up richard would you agree with that this is censoring the debate narrowing the do the scope of discussion is that something youd agree with. You know what were trying to do is make sure we have a democratic nominee who can beat donald trump and if the democratic nominee is somebody who looks famously muesli was committed for having the trains run on time so if we have a democratic nominee who is tipping is had to castro the murderer for having a Literacy Program. Or noriega or you know having spent his honeymoon downing after leaving a sauna in russia and extolling the virtues of the soviet union in ways that frankly most americans dont much agree with thats a problem for people who think that donald trump is a danger to the future of the United States so its not just a question of such a ship or narrowing things its making 100 percent sure we have a nominee who is electable and the concern is once the public realizes what Bernie Sanders has said in the past hes an unreconstructed socialist in the United States thats generally not a calling card a done. Regardless of your views on castro on cuba or on socialism even i mean surely like we said bunny saw a saying this thing at a time when the Democratic Partys already split its the vaunted its going through perhaps a bit of a p. R. It means here across this i mean this is a very bad decision isnt it. Well look i think sanders to me shows his integrity here look hes been saying this for years that theres videotapes of him saying these things about cuba and fidel castro in the soviet union i mean how can he backtrack on those things honestly you know hes just you know reaffirming ideas that he has had for many years meanwhile you know the idea he cant Say Something good about someone like fidel in cuba which frankly in addition to literacy also has a Great Health Care system has done a lot in terms of health care for many other countries helped overthrow apartheid in south africa as Nelson Mandela said i mean theres things you can log about that country and whats wrong to do that meanwhile you know lets look at our own tyrants and you know id put up fidels record against any u. S. President you know obama who is beloved by the democrats deported 3000000 people drop more drones on innocent people than even george w. Bush destroyed the libya were slaves are now being sold on the streets to him i mean im sorry you know you look at Different Countries and different leaders and you can measure up the good against the bat. Richard if i can get back to you on this i mean bernie saunas has a lot of Popular Support hes looking like the favorite right now at least to secure the nomination short of that means that people really dont care what is opinions are on on cuba or on socialism on the say the guy has support based on what has had what he said over the years than chaotic said this is nothing new hes supported. Similar things before should it isnt such a bad p. R. Image here. So when you said that Bernie Sanders has a lot of support in the president ial election were going to have about 140000000 people vote so far Bernie Sanders has gotten 165000 votes so this notion that he has quote a lot of support yeah he has people to show up at his rallies he had a lot of support last time i would submit that a lot of his supporters did not vote for Hillary Clinton and thank you to them we have donald trump as our president and for people who think that barack obama was this horrible mad bomber who is you know kind of antithetical to American Values i would say that if you like the way that donald trump is taking this country knock yourself out but most people certainly most democrats would take barack obama over donald trump 100 times out of 100 and theyre fearful that Bernie Sanders once again the Trump Campaign dredges up all the things he has said and done which in vermont goes over just fine but nationally not so much. Done you sure why do you think the u. S. Is still so afraid of democratic socialism why is socialism still such a dirty word as Dan Kovalchuk said the u. S. Has a history of supporting dubious leaders around the world put it that way but. Its a name just a few nobody would have an issue if a nominee or a candidate perhaps praised the. As regimes this wouldnt be such an outcry why is socialism such a hot potato not in the United States. The unofficial religion of the United States is in communism and we just have to listen to richards previous comments but to hear some of the anticommunism but the truth is that the youth of this country in the multinational working class who supported bernie in nevada 46 percent of the votes that he won in nevada theyre not socialist the new generation is looking to tap into these benefits and these rights that is so shoe economic rights that bernie send is extols so this generation is not falling for this the Intelligence Community in the pentagon in all of their socialist rhetoric d they understand who the true enemy is the enemy is not venezuela or cuba or china its the 1000000000 is right here in the pentagon in the white house the former. Mayor of new york city Michael Bloomberg and on wall street. Rich should we would you agree bernie saunas has a long record a long history of fighting for justice for equality for full rights i dont think anybody can question that and as daniel rightly said that perhaps the youth of today those who dont remember the cold war. Mccarthyism it cetera they just dont care if he praises a Literacy Program in cuba they judge him by his record by his principles. What if we do move beyond the actual people here i mean why is this such an issue. You know well it is certainly the case that Bernie Sanders does have a long an arguable history of fighting for equality whether thats economic equality racial equality gender equality and frankly i think thats true for every other democrat whos running for president. And the problem though with socialism yes its true you know i mean im. I think of Bernie Sanders present standing in the polls which you know in some National Polls hes ahead of the other democrats hes a little bit behind it reminds me of the polls on medicare for all if you ask the American Public how do you like the idea of medicare for all people go oh theyre all for the next question is you know that means losing your Current Health care why it yeah when you actually tell people about Bernie Sanders history and what he means by socialism which is nationalizing telecommunications and nationalizing banks nationalizing other large industry. And so forth then people kind of say really thats what theyre going to do to me whats going to do the u. S. Economy if hes going to spend all this money on health care and on education great we should have. Mandatory preschool education and thats great but all the programs that hes talking about funding he doesnt really offer a means to pay for them and what is that going to do long term to the Financial Stability of the United States really sort of business what to do would be just having it has to do with being practical i would just get as many questions as a county and ill come back to done come out of just one moment but something bad said it was the u. S. Does have a history of supporting dubious regimes dictatorships saudi arabia to name one why do you think theres so much focus on the. Saudis comments about Literacy Program there is this u. S. History i mean all were looking at slightly double standards here is in the picture skewed. It is absolutely the case that the United States has supported regimes that are despicable the question youre not going to get any argument from me or frankly anybody else whos running for the democratic president ial nomination the concern is not him saying good things about the Literacy Program its i said its saying that mussolini got the trains to run on time that. It was not what it is that People Associated with what mussolini did it happened to be the case but he was a murderous dictator as was castro and the concern is politically that that means that the Democratic Party can kiss off winning florida thats not a good place to start and as a as a moral matter we dont really want to i think most democrats would rather not have a nominee who kind of think that well on one hand he was a murderous dictator on the other he had a good Literacy Program they dont actually see that as equating and that is the problem doesnt come out of talking to you in this mean isnt drawing positive lessons from countries which have laws to be dubious human rights records of a country they may be from whichever wing of the political political spectrum here i mean surely we need a level Playing Field here surely we should either accept that some good things in saudi arabia or under general pinochet or not invoke these sorts of all human seen all political debates which will. Well look. I will quote george w. Bush who said we judge other countries by the worst of their actions we judge our own country by the best of our intentions and i think thats true you can look at a country like cuba and yes you can learn about Literacy Programs that Work Health Care programs that work and we should be able to do that in a rational way again especially when you look at the fact that people like President Trump and president obama before him and numerous president s before them partnered with murderous regimes like saudi arabia which now is being
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