So what do you see the street with a thing like real with a tree its like. Analyze it from the bottom to the ship. With a like you that i got. With it we. Would see this this. Is this is how. Governor Jesse Ventura was joined by several key figures in his campaign and Administration Campaign chairman dean barkley Bill Hillsman the Campaign Advertising group and political strategist. Running mate and 37 year School Teacher made. And finally the Communications Director for the ministration john dean barkley will really was the one that got me interested in the 3rd Party Movement because ive always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started to see nice barkley signs for congress or senate i Forget CongressBarkley Barkley and all and i kind of thought who is this barkley what is this Independence Party at the time who are they and so on i got involved there and i met them and i realized that the majority of the Independence Party a great many of them were disgruntled democrats and republicans who feel the systems failing and they want something new and so and i felt that way also and so i supported dean when he ran. To make the long story shorter. Genius for man in minnesota they have the annandale 4th of july parade and he asked me to walk in it so were walking through annandale on the crowds going crazy but theyre going crazy for me you know youre not a team and ill never forget the leaning over to me and whispering there didnt have to whisper it was pretty loud he said see the wrong guys running that was the genesis thats when my wife went on the line you know it was my hometown and its a little embarrassing. To be completely sure you do. And i just wonder this would translate in the political popularity and thats where the idea how my hand and thats worth of thought started we had a great big Budget Surplus because the economy in the ninetys was super strong and because of the taxation rate in minnesota they took in billions of dollars more. Needed and they spent it and i was doing talk radio and i was outraged over that how dare them thats the peoples money its not. Their kids. I made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor you could sense the feeling out there that people were looking for Something Else and werent getting it the centers never represented its always the left on the right on the far wings and the center is made to pick. The lesser of the 2 evils i guess. That occupies the center the left and right them can make inroads. That we need. Voters who did normally vote so i figured theres about 24 to 25 percent that are already voted for an independent with well as is ok then what we have to do and youre right we had to expand the electorate so we can get to 25 but how do we get to 35 to 37 and i figured well the young voter doesnt vote for it out from if we can motivate that walk of voters to take a chance and show up we have a shot we did the 1st part of the campaign on that replay disease during well what you do is you do exactly you go to bed at which is whether you did you go to the people still unit event like this on and on would you describe it to slide luxury to your video will fly but i mean you think of a Governor Campaign you can oh you can understand or picture what the other side of the dialler not offering their hair washing at the time good thing because one of the campaign was let her read caroline a little dollar a day before and we were never as i and dad are 3 the line of the Campaign Manager was a poll to yeah theres a poll tell if you are ok and i know hes running told you cant make this stuff up knowing you if it was a complete. It was as grass d roots as you could possible yes as you said 34 people down there was yeah i remember dean taking me to a debate i think was the twentys public telephone right and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was when. I just decided you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates so you. Simply means that you were actually part of the strategy you were there doing the numbers yeah we we really did we had. Really good voter targeting gross as well and the other thing people forget about this campaign it was really the 1st effective use of the internet yes in a political campaign. We didnt have a feeling is that the feelers ations people emailing other people but there were some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debates so jesse would show up other 3rd Party Candidates show up and every time id watch these debates go on. Everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so its not hard to figure out if youre at a democratic primary event and theres 5 candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the 2nd choice of almost everybody there you start to go through this is a very different dynamic than weve ever seen before if hes the 2nd choice of all the democrats thats pretty good at so awfully good starting place when i initially ram there were multiple opponents because i was in the debates very early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big 2 or if you include me 3. Hubert h. Skip humphrey the democrat Hubert Humphreys son the former Vice President s son and he was the current attorney general. Maire norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always i found it very interesting. That humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general Humphrey Coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though coleman had no more mayor than i did i was always former. Jesse ventura so why was the only candidate that had his private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been the mayor so should shouldnt be former mayor Jesse Ventura because were talking politics here but thats the bias that i faced but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other 2 xp private sector jobs i dont want to landslide because then it would have been former warrior skip pomfrey and former lawyer norm coleman or some of the substance of those debates was really surprising to people and all those things that happened in the debates had never happened i mean they would ask. A question and skip as a family disease of luxury as so he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as hes talking so he is up his entire 2 minutes they give the same question to norm coleman he starts talking right away hes trying to make his points he gets cut off because hes going to go over they ask jesse a question he says yes. And they say nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and he says us me a question i gave you an answer. Joe nobody knew it to be nobody and i dont say you know history of politics or ever not use their entire 2 minutes to Say Something i want to piggyback on that now because i dont need 1000000 said yes im. Never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when moses started to go i said well i answered the question on the moderator of the new web yes i mean if he did so at that double song getting into the crowd good and all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it. Its a friday night and the 2 other candidates are all dressed up. Jesse shows up piecing is football coaching outfit you know anything like a sweatshirt in and innocence yeah i was almost x. Yeah thats right there and then just banks people relate to somebody like that you know it wasnt all show and then finally there was the 3rd debate where you told that amazing story about a gay wrestler whose companion couldnt get in to see and learning is dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that there was one of the most affecting things that were seeing with all it how can you have a sign telling you who you love and who you dont get to sit by your bedside its already or your remote in an emergency and because you again youre not allowed in there whos written say movie you know and so and i think that. The fact that i didnt you should know children. You know people knew that that the answers they were getting were true and from the heart the truth was what if you were looking in. Jesse ventura and in the campaign from the outside as i was thats what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also often use examples of truth telling no gigot gave you 2 things of the voice for debates i said number one is tell the truth just dont want to think never too soon if you dont know the answer minute yeah its fine itll make you look a real person you dont have it all there and just personal your performance than your bait you know we want from what beginning of September Terry were shares of him going to the shop to the mid twentys and we hadnt spent one penny on africa izing and that mop i pointed to a couple reading what that was set. And thats more we got into poses and theyre actually when i looked it up just a day or 2 ago and just who is that 15 percent. And he finished 37. Short to a literally a 20 point jump in 3 weeks. Extra strong. I cant show you my face but im going to teach you must. In 9093 this man was sentenced to death. Charged with capital murder even though he didnt have the gun didnt pull the trigger didnt intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for that week with his son of a 23. Confined within 4 green walls he fucks using. Turn on to help him to leave defense room. Micrographs friends arent slights and dad sed you know whites are men for example theres theres fights against women or nonwhites so its always the idea is that statements that directed toward a Privileged Group are interpreted differently than a statement directed toward an oppressed group and so thats kind of the whole framework and its a its a political framework thats used the result is of course focusing at least on certain kinds of minor slights and saying more rather than nor the more than we need to call attention to them but its not all slight so its a very political in this context. Early on in the campaign you know we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of policy were progressing amongst the groups. Naturally my to stop to rome level as revenue stream way high and so the chances of me because i mean you know i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that im on shoulder hold them im sold branch that that put a family a lot of people i actually was polishing my Kitchen Cabinets and i get this call and they said my name is and i am on the committee for justice and tour as a candidate for governor and i said. And they said were wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no im a teacher im not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of this flood of experience with education to do that in the schools and such i thought well you know i have i think i had about 30 years under my belt theyre ready of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the children point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family they said well youre near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about the. So the next day i got a call from johnson asking me if i would be interested in being his. Running mate as Lieutenant Governor and i said yes i will do so i was up from that point on i was so excited because i could talk about education you were crucial to the success of this ticket i mean theres no way i dont think the jesse lives without you on the ticket because. You gave it a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i dont know if people would remember your name but they know that Jesse Ventura ran with the teach for sending email is Conference Room and were discussing in the east that we should do a victory tour road to victory tour now is the 1st time we came off oil you know what 2nd until our and i go all over the state of minnesota in 48 hours or 3 days i feel your loss within our vienna meters tall order. And now were going to shop there are slow thats a current idea of the film as a was there and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shots on each print them of build some momentum saw i know i said then i says ok stop doing Everything Else and lets break this after that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have done bus tours and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy Seal Campaign is committed will be campaigning when theyre sleeping 10 miles of the people who go on the road john and pay and theres like food cars behind us with with balloons with boulders following the ocean and then as theyd leave others would replace them so were going gaining people everywhere who go. This wasnt exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes 23 hours behind and we were going all night so youd show up 3 hours late at 2 oclock in the morning to someplace home or yeah and there was still a tremendous number of people there a nuisance sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers friends or people but they waited there for 2 hours for us to arrive and we come out and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging out at midnight in willmar minnesota paying off the building and of course the other 2 immediately imitate it so just skip out for it goes out and gets a bus and he cant get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his bus or a crowd gets old and norm coleman has a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent in the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll and theyd roll out the stuff that they like a stage and all the sound stuff and on the get up do a song and dance everything gets rolled up back in the bus off to the next stop weve done a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i eyeball bread. We hired b. L. U. Ask you shes an agent that she job but everybody else on my campaign the only person that got paid was doug fried lime and thats because he had to leave his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made so a poll today this is truly a Peoples Campaign i dont think weve seen anything like it. For democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this is a situation where the people in minnesota organize themselves. We were driving there to canterbury that night early evening there was a strange. Circle around the mood in the sky that night truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked at it and my son was in the back seat and he goes dad something strange is going to happen he said to me on the way out. And so we went out there with that expectation but when i truly realized. It i always believed i could win but believing in actuality are 2 Different Things but what got me that night was when word came in that the lines to register were longer. That to me was the key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought thats the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status school theyre not waiting in law to vote for skip or more. Because its the 1st time and ill just state this i cant tell you all. How many young people have come up to me there and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the 1st person i ever voted for and that to me is the reward. More than anything ever being the governor was the fact that we had that type of impact on the people they told us were untouchable that. We have that morning in their little political. Yeah the universe a. Lot. Young people registering to vote on a watch and that is the 1st time i said may god may have done that because that was the missing piece that i didnt know of all time who are they going to show off ive never seen before or since the initial returns came in with you had 37 percent can you never move ive never seen anything like this all honesty has all night it was 37 percent and coleman was trailing and he made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well thats the end of it now calm and wins but it never happened he will never get that it was interesting because when the 1st very returns came in the very 1st it was right in the order Humphrey Coleman money the 2nd returns came in Humphrey Ventura Coleman i moved up to 2nd and then i think it was at what 5 percent to 7 percent was when i took the lead was at about because they had a 3 percent to 5 and a stab at that they came in with a missionary and i went from why i asked to 2nd to 1st that was the real amazing thing is that it was skip and roger molds that put me in the debates thinking i was going to take republican conservative votes because of fiscal conservative and it was the opposite come from at that time was polling like 46 percent coleman was at is 3032. 00 where he was all the time i was at 10 and it was humphrey that went to 28 and i would be 37. 00 and warm still so the norm was always within the margin of error never went up never went down ill never forget the fact that we were in the bathtub and i had already gone out once to the crowd and they were demanding i go out again and i said no im not go