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Come running. Through this area with the suspect shooting behind them. You can see on the game members scatter. And they kind of hang around. Because they know its going to be a street on great street or whos disciplining another member so they sit around and watch where it is that was a rival gang shooting all of them would run out of the way because theyd all be intended targets here the suspect is chasing the victim around the vehicle. And hes just waiting to kill him. Here the victim tries to run the suspect shoots him in the hand he falls. And then he comes up and finishes a month. He puts the gun in his back were going to somebody and then just slowly walks away he has nothing really to fear here in the neighborhood because theyre all great street crips gang members and hes banking on the fact that no ones going to go to. Testify against him. And you see that nobodys really shocked about it nobodys talking about it nobody chased down the suspect. And then just go about their daily activities and then obviously homicide will come in and start their investigation. Youre the 1st time i was shot 3 times i mean i really didnt realize it until my stomach start burning my stomach start burning i knew something wasnt right so. I went to spit and i want to spit the spitting come all the way out of my mouth they must burn even more as they call ambulance basically and when i got shot the 10 times it was early in the morning i was actually stranded somewhere somebody walked up with his hands behind his back came from behind his back and called me by name and shot me in my face 1st. My face i turned and went to try to run back and i laid it like to go to make me spin like Michael Jackson would let me go nowhere and so after that the 2 shot with 38 i dont know who had the 38 but i saw the one with the 45 in my face and i got 45 into it 38 at that point and the humor is poor you say and i was laying there i was saying your brain steals be working so when im laying me and i pay as i thought i was going to die because you know he said you do with before you die and i. Go out. In like oh. Home i could really see out of. This after we get out of the sad face so i just had this was over like a Silver Dollar then once i got to ask it it was another scary feeling i went through because when i was back to the doctors when really rushing to do it was like they was nobody on a hurdle and im sydney im trying to say how do i look and my job really opened up the feel like my jaw was broke from when a bullet hits they had to look so now my brain. I mean i was kind of glad the doctors came in at last or really kind of feeling myself and getting around because i had the collapse of the bag zone but right as im raising my shirt up and seeing with all this that im feeling. I saw all my intestines on the outside. But i had a heart attack the doctor said i walked in right when i walked in and it was like a whole nother. Just went through my head you could you could actually see. And you know that was the experience with bet right there. Until some 2530 hoods militant groups working together on the same page in the same model to restore community to save lives so what happens is that they get a shoot in a Community Get to shoot them our Community Says this is a good issue the mockumentary and it was the shooting was done from one of the guys i collaborate with at the table he will call me the same in one of my homeboys just got shot in your neighborhood or is that they have the father. 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That is 2 different realities the reality where we get involved in gang bang the various reasons we could be here all day but the reality for the system is Good Business. And this one on each other. Each other is Good Business the state of california alone makes 6000000000. 00 a year of the prison complex system if you can figure a way to make the 7 plants trillion 1. 02 piece you have global peace tonight. You stop the wars not only in the streets but internationally this is more money and. Thats why this reality exists. For only office of the firm hold least walking by point let me the point that matt always pointed people. This will make the black community bad when officers arrived People Community jobs pointed people dont even know him might want to know one man own 2 Police Officer haircuts man you hear a little stronger man showed me that youve been eating a lot this week and i just seen already go by little i mean the no. Need to go man. You know are you going. 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One of the reasons i became an attorney was to help people because you know what i was a little girl i noticed that there were a lot of drugs in the community a lot of gangs in the community and i found 2 bodies dead bodies that had been overdosed on heroin they were in the alley all run to the 1st and mechanically and i knew they were because my cousin was a heroin addict and i knew and one of the women i knew her little girl and i knew her and i had seen her when she was alive so i was in 3rd grade when i saw these bodies then fast forward a little bit farther in the future and then crack came into the community and my little cousin was a victim of that and so just saying what that did to the community i decided to open our facility were. Whining why use drugs they cant get a job maybe will have been tagged with melanies for low level offenses when she tagged with a felony youre serving a life sentence on the installment plan basically you are going to go in and out of jail because youve got to come out and be faced with i have a felony so i can have Public Housing like Imperial Courts i can be with my family because i am a felony. You stand on the streets trying to figure out how to get a job you cant get a job because you have to check the box and if youre a felon you most people wont employ you you cant get Public Housing Public Health you cant get Medicare Medicaid if you have a felony man names and they will incarcerate and actually its drug related ok as were finding and thats why these prisons are so overcrowded now because of drugs so what were finding is when they come out they cant get treatment because my facility is based on medicare and i cant serve the women and melanies so its a catch 22 and it keeps bringing people back around to the same place where they can manage our they cant find housing they cant get medical treatment they may be depressed at this point. Wont be able to get any treatment for their Mental Health issues and so therefore it just becomes a vicious cycle that keeps repeating itself over and over. Male black and. White. Youre going to want to be coming out a. Little bit in that little iron lady printer. Narcotics news doing surveillance on a narcotic said to me in the midst of gardens which is funny kind of blunt which is my game for the last 15 years. So were going to try to take down the cellar right now. Lets pick up the very start you know. So funny kind of blood from one of the largest and most violent gangs in the country. Make tremendous profits on selling. At any given time inside the water here and using these 3 to 5 are not part of the selling day and all of just to call her cell its just this gentleman story is just selling on the streets to locate it on the t. V. And a local transit rochus less somebody goes by. Now a lot of times to. The world is driven by dreamers shaped past and present those words. The day theres things. We dare to ask. This is a story of women and women with troubled histories and complex court cases you know for some of us daily leave off whole lives out there. Where not. The person that there is a cheesiness of the day are considered the most dangerous of criminals shes in a still. All the office 23 hours of the day tell me that its not enough and it led world of women on death row. Yes. School here i dont know if its really for me. So you had it all man oh im also me with my own just so we live it was a lot. Going on. You gotta keep this place through nobodys very innocent or your album do i know how long youve been sitting here obviously one of those couple minutes trying. You know they havent checked did you say its in his. Ear but i think thats what thats where he keeps it. Yeah i mean let me check with these guys right now. You can see red snake is a jacket has Read Everything is consistent with gang activity. This is their territory bonnie hunt blogs nobody elses territory you better have a mission to be in here if you can rival gang and if youre not. This gang has a different sets of cliques to the gang and theyre broken up into crews they got you shooters they recruit the dope dealers or crew your robbery suspects a cruise this gentleman here is part of savage squad its a click of the body on a bloods that responsible for street robberies home invasions look at store robberies. And they take pride in that and a tattoo themselves they take the legions to each other and that crew you see arms so this is from their christian gardens this is 112. 00 street thats his clip me h. W. For money on a watch. And then this is be ip instead of rest and peace its bonding and peace and thats his home. There rival gangs crave street so theyll have 107. 00 which is the pinnacle for murder. Street with that she crossed out. Youre telling everybody that you killed a great street and. Everybody comes out to check on these guys in a report back to other gang members so why theyre being stopped as you can. See behind us 120 i think its 127 i want to look is a unit thats selling our cocks so as much as a concern about these guys im more concerned about the money inside of me with his hand gun side and narcotics inside so theyll move this location right will mean they can set up shop somewhere else. All these guys are here a customers whenever you see a group or transients hanging around you know that theres a narcotic location within 50 to 70 feet and they set up camp here and thats all they do is smoke all day long but these guys again its everythings full circle so these guys now are your car thieves your burglarious because they have to feed their habit and a gang members know that so its just a revolving door here. Is enough from that enough to take. The other suspect into custody for sales a narcotic so tysons going to bring him back to the station people for sales. I. I. I i. Was going. To buy vocational pastor is extremely difficult i work full time as a special agent for the u. S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General and that is. A position in which i investigate f. B. I. Agents the agents u. S. Attorneys and others. Its difficult to to handle both jobs well and ive been pretty successful of both areas. I believe that its imperative for me to continue in my career in the federal government because. As a role model in both areas of life so people when they come to our church and they found out that number one i am by vocational that thats impressive to be because they want to know how i can hold it all together and secondly because i am a man of god and i treat everyone fairly no matter where im at. I believe that is our primary responsibility because the god that we serve is a god of 2nd chances and i am so pleased that we have so many people in our parish that have been rehabilitated people been formerly incarcerated former drug addicts former prostitutes gay members and we accept everyone as they are and we let them know that hey they may have made mistakes in the past but they are god is a forgiving god and a merciful god were here to tell. What happens with so many people the wind up being homeless is that theyve had opportunities that have presented to the self that maybe they havent been able to take advantage of it. Oftentimes they shut down. For me. I had a brother homeless and eventually died on the streets and its very difficult to deal with someone who has really given up on life. When you think about the sheer numbers of individuals who find themselves homeless in los angeles were talking about estimates 38 to 45. 1000 people on a nightly basis find themselves only this 4 door. Exists between South Los Angeles and downtown los angeles. Sutro in l. A. Compton watts up on skid row skid rows a Diverse Community you know folks wont run. See guys that i know you know if theyre in our group and your role in the mission and they go to jail and they end up in a county jail for 7 months by the case and i always said you know they go to court the case is over the fight oh it wasnt you just please go. You know what happens if a guy have a job you know lost a job i know we all pay a rate you know its very few people have their own home you know so by the time you get out your apartment is gone you know all this stuff is. Going to go to 90 days to come pick up your property you know as their music so youre into music every day. So you get out you have nowhere to go you have no money you know what do you do you come skid row to get a road is the only place you can we see you roll and you write something to get some clothes and hopefully you know design is not to go find a show to be you know is going to get into a program. Hire an estimate of disconnection from the labor market for africanamericans is around 60 percent for africanamericans between the ages of 18 and roughly 45. 00 so think about think about you have a population in 2012 about 500000 africanamericans who reside within the city of los angeles which is 459 square miles and a large percentage of them the greater number of are not connected to work in los angeles one in 18 africanamericans own homes the National Homeless population. In this 50 square block area its about 4500 but when we talk about South Central los angeles combines South Central Los Angeles Home osamas combined with downtown Los Angeles Homelessness were talking about 20000 people skid row. Exists within the center of power in los angeles and i think its important to note that skid row thievin in Los Angeles California is a well kept secret this is the epicenter this is the epicenter of poverty and if you cant fix it here you cant fix it. The largest amount of Homeless People are africanamerican children because of you render why and why many homeless and she has 3 children what happens is theres not a lot of housing for women and children so the woman goes into transitional housing by herself and those 3 kids usually get split into different foster 0 homes and at that point they may never really see each other as a family again and and thats the most one of the most heart wrenching things because the kids will tell me i had my little 16 year old boy and you know boys are supposed to cry 0 and i saw a tear about to form a design he said mistakes and i didnt do anything wrong i dont understand why this is happening to me and. It was very sad and i was like you know he didnt do anything wrong but his life had been turned upside down. And i cant tell him that his life is ever going to get better. Or ever since time when the kids are going to get the kids ok in the teacher spends time think the teacher gets the kids and the parents spend time they get the kids if the gang spends time they get the kids more often than not the gang is the one that spends a time when the kids and so they do get that sense of community from them because theres a very dysfunctional family unit theres you know theyre not Everybody Needs some kind of support and nurturing and some sense of belonging and appreciate. So i got to go wherever they can get it from is yes. Yes. Yes yes. I do oh. I sure. Do. You believe. Thank. You. It was a. Sort of known of course for. Which the. Humanity is on the edge of a precipice thanks to a continuing destruction of the natural world. You just seem laid out a lot of bills also. Losing much of a lead if you. Want to take. The money and you cant hold up. The war. Or the report. Only dealing in your last month olds as i am will. Ship them through the. 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Go to your producers because it looks were to snoop to come up with you a because that was the cousin with you sir your supporters to your shoe station shouldnt throw you should could do for one whos doing. This is a story of women women with troubled histories and complex court cases you know some of those deadly leave a lot more lives out there. The person thats. Considered the most dangerous of criminals. All the off 23 hours of the day tell me that its not enough. Women on death row on our team and. Welcoming our viewers from around the world live from Central London this is also u. K. The Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in intensive care about a month in hospital after his coronavirus symptoms worse and as the daily death toll reaches over 750 the highest number yet ill be talking to a dog very shortly. From the stand in for rob claims the lockdown must continue but thats his economists estimate its costing the country 2400000000 pounds a day ill be speaking to form a leader of the liberal democrats and one time business secretary said vince cable. Also the front line medics treating patients with 19 claims they are forced to make that protective equipment from improvised materials that says research suggests. Underestimating the number of doctors. With the virus. The Prime Minister remains in intensive care at some Thomas Hospital in london after he was moved last night due to worsening coronavirus symptoms that says the data told in england hits 758. 00 now that is the highest so far. Is live outside the hospital where the Prime Minister is so well. What is the latest then on Boris Johnson. What we know of cool stuff the Prime Minister be suffering with code 98 offsets about 54 it around 10 days ago but towards the end of last week the reports confirmation apart from downing street that the Prime Minister continued to show symptoms that on sunday night he was taken to hospital here to tell this is hospital which is just over the river from downing street and from us. House of parliament but last night it would appear that the Prime Ministers condition. For the us because he was taken to intensive care when he remains oh not just to spite and they should be at even the day downing street and all that up attend school staying thats the promise that was ok and im not comfortable. In the hospital but im holding to the same sources i have out in st augustine are still in good spirits and is despite big an intensive care not receiving treatment without any ventilators or intrusive 3 think the platelets. The Prime Minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits he is receiving standard oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance he has not required mechanical ventilation or noninvasive spirit trees. Now images that we can see from the helicopters flying above showing the hospitals in thomas where the Prime Minister is being treated and while he is here dominick rob will be the acting Prime Minister for all intents and purposes he is the 1st minister of state hes also the foreign secretary and he will be taking over the normal responsibilities for handling the coated 900. 00 prices however he wont have to the how the power was given to him he was be holding weekly calls with the queen and he also wants to be able to change any positions within the cabinet although we understand the cabinet themselves they will if they have to make any decisions based on a decision made by all of the members of the cabinet so the talk of collective responsibility if you will now the Prime Minister has received good wishes from all the leading members of state from the french president manuel macro on taking to twitter yesterday evening to wish the Prime Minister a speedy recovery and also a scottish 1st minister because studs and taking the opportunity to extend well wishes to the problems for. The Prime Minister as well as leading the u. K. Government response is currently in hospital facing his old past in a battle against coronavirus actually the meeting of the scottish governments cabinet this morning and we to cordiant our very best wishes to him and so now you and im should i do this on behalf of all of scotland i want to say and every good wish to head to his fiance and to his whole family we are all willing you on board us get well soon. Now we are waiting for the latest figures of those who have lost their lives often testing positive for code 90 in the hold off you dont stick to do already have the figures to england and over the most recent 24 hour period of the ignition the death toll the death toll of english patients has risen by a massive 758 thats following 2 days of a downward trend where the numbers were lower all across the u. K. So thats a really steep tacuba jump in the numbers of those whove died and we are expecting to see that number to grow even further when we get the official figures from the other countries around the United Kingdom and then later this afternoon at 5 pm like every other day throughout this crisis we will be getting that update from downing street at this stage not clear yet who will be giving it but like i mentioned just a moment ago dominic robb now in charge in the Prime Ministers absence. Is really thank you very much indeed for that live update there from Central London well for more all the Prime Ministers condition im now joined by dr david bull david good to see you know not to you k. Now the Prime Minister is in intensive care standard oxygen but not on a ventilator what does that mean well i think what it shows really is just the human tragedy behind this disease you know i think it shocked a lot of people that the Prime Minister and i think many people saw him as someone who was in number 10 downing street giving out these really warm sentiments saying you know everything will be fine and for him suddenly to be admitted into hospital and to then be transferred to intensive care means that actually his condition is worsening now there are conflicting reports are spoken to some of my medical colleagues who are working in that hospital now and there is no doubt that he will have received oxygen and obviously theyre being very careful you know hes the Prime Minister so you have got to make sure that they do everything and they go over and above what they could possibly humanly do so hes been given oxygen ive also heard. He has been given say power now that is what is called Continuous Positive Airways Pressure that keeps the airways open to allowing his lungs to inflate with oxygen one of the problems with this disease is that you cant actually ventilate your lungs properly but there is a trade off we dont want to intervene too early but at the same time you dont want to intervene too late so the point about using Something Like see is it will help him to oxygenate his blood and thats something that they would have decided with caution so from what i understand and the reports are right there he hasnt been integrated and hes not going to light it can you put a prognosis on the likelihood of recovery for someone in this situation well he has a number of risk factors against him i you know theres i dont think it surprises anyone when i say hes overweight thats something that will count against him i dont know whether he has any underlying medical conditions the good thing is he is under 60 we know those people under 60 do better i think hes 55 or thereabouts but the figures speak for themselves and last night when i heard that hed been admitted i was gravely concerned because when you look at the numbers across the world those people if he is on c pap and thats what ive heard what those figures normally show is that you tend to move from say power to being ventilated in about 60 percent of cases within 24 hours now it may be that they instigated it early in which case you can come off and hopefully that is the case but i really suggest people do not really underestimate the severity of this it all stated his very clear indication that so many people feel it is the elderly the vulnerable those with Underlying Health conditions and as you said earlier here is a man whos just 55 yeah i mean i think thats right weve said all along its those people with chronic conditions like Heart Disease risk disease diabetes immunosuppression and being over 60 but what this shows more and. One thing it and we know this from other cases this virus does not discriminate it doesnt matter whether youre rich or your poor d whether youre young or youre old and that is why we are saying stay home say protect the n. H. S. And save lives so what do you say to people who feeling unwell because on sunday he was admitted as a precaution he said he was in good spirits and suddenly got. Quickly very sick hasnt he since sunday he has and this is the problem with the disease because what we say is that you have a long incubation period up to 14 days and then you seem to have this initial illness with a slightly right raise temperature and a persistent cough and from what ive gathered from other cases that people seem to be Getting Better and then you get hit by another wave of it so this seems to be as the inflammatory mediators then overtake the bodys reactions so the thing to say to people is if you are feeling unwell stay at home because the point is that that hospitals are not a place you want to go unless you are in extremis you know the medical staff are working around the clock to ensure the safety of those patients so make sure that youve got someone that you can rely on at home drink plenty of fluids and try to stay hydrated and how long could the recovery be after youve recovered from that 2nd wave as you say you just. Obviously the 1st part if you get through that ok the 2nd wave when you have those breathing problems and as we see with the Prime Minister just just how long will your quality of life be affected after that i think it all depends how severe the treatment is that sense to go to because if you are on see happen if you will then ventilated coming off a ventilator is not easy and of course everyone is different so they the nature of the disease in every Single Person will be different but this is a long term healing process you know he is not going to be bouncing back to work anytime soon then we can we take some sort of the fact that many people are getting this and experiencing mild symptoms and surely therefore many are recovering just as many who are getting infected when we see that surgeon recoveries yeah thats absolutely right and of course we need to underline this 80 percent of people who get this condition. Well gets a miles condition and of course the biggest problem for us in the u. K. Is we have no idea how many people have been infected we havent been testing so we have no idea of the spread of cases or where they are in the country and of course we dont have antibody tests and these are the tests that show you whether youve been infected in the past and for me this is the holy grail because if we can show that youve been infected we can start to release that lock down the cost of 2000000000 pounds a day to the u. K. Economy but equally we need people to get out and about to then support those 1500000 Vulnerable People who need to stay isolated are convinced as partly by the effectiveness of these antibody tests because there is of course some concern that they simply dont work at this stage so i my understanding is that once the government bought dont work i think they have a 30 percent efficacy rate i know there are Many Companies trying many of these antibody tests at the moment and the point is that thats why theyve been delayed were not going to roll them out until we know that theyre effective but they have good sensitivity and good specificity because you dont want false negatives and you dont want false positives i have no doubt that we will get a good test but its all a matter of time today the bill great to talk to you today thank you so much for being with us not eating. While the man turns for stepping in for Boris Johnson dominic robb is downplayed the possibility of lifting the lockdown the foreign secretary said that the current rules must continue to be in force to slow the spread of the virus the risk right now is if we take our focus off the strategy which is beginning to work is that we wont get through the peak as fast as we need to which is why its perfectly legitimate to ask the question but the governments overriding priority has got to be to keep up the work that and the commitment that so many people have made to make sure that we maintain the social distancing we stop the spread we protect the unit just as we come through the peak. The lockdown applies to all 4 home nations and the 1st minister of wales has called for a cobra meeting to review it not draycott said its necessary to look at the restrictions as the initial 3 week knock down period draws to a close meanwhile experts are concerned about the impact of a continued shutdown on the economy estimates suggest the lockdown could cost the country around 2400000000. 00 pounds daily the center for economics and Business Research says that g. D. P. Will reduce by around 30 percent as people are forced to stand home and others predict that the economy could be hit by 30 percent in the 2nd financial quarter from april through to june if the lockdown remains whom are Consumer Confidence is at its lowest level since the financial crash nearly 1000000. 00 people applied for universal credit at the end of last month 10 times the average. What are the all of the latest developments further im now joined by former leader of the liberal democrats and former business secretary said vince cable since really good of you to join is the softer one thank you can we start with the Prime Minister what kind of medical team would high profile politicians have around them well i would hope he gets very measured treatment season. Term successful no question starr had a very brief. Encounter there about 10 years ago. And like everybody else are going you know i just wish him well its very important. Leader of the country as soon as possible. And what you make of his attempts to keep running the country when he was pretty am well stay for the last week or so and now all of a sudden hes now in intensive care well its a lot we dont know about us hope that he has our medical advice. Do you worry that sometimes were not necessarily getting all the information on sunday it was just described as a precaution of him going to hospital that the government being transparent here do you think well i dont want to criticize i mean that you know were a pretty open transparent country where we are getting regular reports from what the Prime Ministers condition is and show that he has been medical advice. But i cant see anything inappropriate in whats happening lets talk about the Economic Impact here on the country the moment the lockdowns some saying its what 2400000000 pounds a day how sustainable is that. Well its not sustainable in the long run i managed to put a against percentage terms which i think people spend a bit easier to get them that the actual numbers the g. D. P. That the economy is running about 30 percent below what youd expect its trend now lets supposing an optimistic to be that this keep it remains the next 3 months and we dont know the relief of the lock down in the summer maybe then theres a 50 percent below trend in the in the in the 3rd quarter and then well return to normal well ducks at 10 percent just over 10 percent cuts in the economy weve never had anything as bad as that even in the financial crisis say its a very big hit and that is the optimistic view it could be that we take a long time to recover not some things have been damaged they and it may not may not be easy to replace credit from Financial Institutions will kind of things could happen and it could be we get into a saloon w. Shaped recovery as. Suggested by the return of the virus in places about singapore that seem to have got on top of it and it could be that we dont recover but we just have a lot of damage that just remains indefinite they post this happened out of a 2008 shock we went on so much you know levels of productivity and other western countries that the senate is a bang in months of very starting consequences youre talking about do we not have to balance the economy with health at some point is get its going to be an acceptable death rate at which weve reopened the business. Well i think youre asking the right question and that i mean i have absolutely no time for the President Trump but he has raised that is c. E. O. Of our costs and benefits and tradeoffs and at the moment i think everybody is comfortable or at least accepting the advice of the epidemiologists and the specialists and its right that we do so but it is also right to begin to us the question you know what are the costs and what are the benefits of this approach when when were dealing with wins you know right from death questions about new drivers we dont quantify we try to quantify the benefits in terms of life saved as against say and the cost the financial costs involves a very hard headed cannot run the bloodlust calculation and we may have to start asking that kind of question on a macro level for the whole epidemic but at the moment im you know i think that nobody would want to question they scientific advice that were being given and should give advice what about economic advice what would you say to the government to try and stimulate growth again once this is all beginning to calm down a bit from you will experience what would you say well at the moment they have obviously not stipulating directly trying to stop that and thats the whole point about the lockdown but once we get to a point where they restraints on production are removed then its a question of then breathing some life back into the economy getting people spending getting businesses investing well or that we are going to be faced with a running very very large government deficit because it sends the government is supporting the economy. Debt levels are going to get very very uncomfortable in britain and dates around the world and there will then be quite a big economic debate about how do we handle the legacy them and do we try to pay these off or is it the self through inflation is a ticket converted through. To. The money supply there are some very interesting and important questions there which we should trust begin to figure out if this if theres shutdown is for a long period of time. Very large amounts of government deaths are going to accumulate and the question i would be some other economists have is. You know whether or not the bank should be funding this directly. Tied up since cable thank you so much for time thank you. Well lets take a look at the rest of the u. K. And how its dealing with the virus from today all employees in wales will be legally obliged to keep employees 2 meters apart and a between sure workers stick to social distancing guidelines and Northern Ireland the belfast Grammar School opens its showering and changing facilities to Health Care Workers at the nearby hospital and one church of scotland minister is offering bereaved families the chance to attend funerals remotely with a preacher recorded version being pushed into huge issue for others to view later. Across the world the death toll has passed 76000 as the number of confirmed cases currently stands at over 1360000 almost 300000 have so far recovered japan declares a month long state of National Emergency and unveils a record stimulus package worth 800000000000 pounds and france reports its worst day of corona virus related deaths with a daily death toll of 833 and it comes as china has recorded no new deaths. Still to come this hour u. K. Medics treating coronavirus patients claimed they are forced to make their oath of medical loss and goggles due to lack of personal protective equipment and a surgeon goes online to wind up wearing gloves to the supermarket could be doing more harm than good. Join me every thursday on the alec simon show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see you then. What is the difference between embarrassing gaps in elder abuse joe biden certainly excels at the former and maybe is the big name of the latter we are told mention of Mental Health is off limits to what degree is the publics right to know. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Tyson nation community. Are you going the right way or are you being led to some. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallowness. Frontline medics treating patients with curved 19 claim theyre forced to make their own masks eyewear and gallons stuff at brighton and Sussex University hospital say theyve been forced to fashion face masks out of laminate and elastic burns other frontline staff reported making protective gear from clinical waste banks and plastic aprons or some of even board ski goggles to use as protective i wear the union for n. H. S. Work as a said that frontline medical staff should not be put in such a position is this how we expect those risking their lives in the face of a pandemic to be treated frontline nursing staff be forced to make their own p. P. To protect themselves the crucial guidance from Public Health england is clear all n. H. S. Staff should be empowered to choose the p. P. They need to protect themselves at work and we will be on the case to ensure that the hospital is implementing this no brighton and Sussex University hospital staff or n. H. S. But by the Health Workers should be put in a position where they feel their employer is prepared to sacrifice their own safety to keep the Service Running ospital trust in Public Health england havent commented on the situation yet until 6 remote hancock said the protective kit was on its way to hospitals. But just as the latest research by the Royal College of physicians suggests the government is also underestimating the number of medics off work due to the virus official figures released by the department of health and social care says that over 6 percent of doctors are off due to corona virus related reasons but numbers revealed by the Royal College of physicians are more than double the official figures reaching over 14 percent in the doctors study also found that just 78 percent were able to access necessary equipment just over 30 percent could get hold of teens swabs and one in 10 reported not being able to get tests for patients who met the criteria of a more on the shortages of both medics and equipment of a joint in the next hour by an n. H. S. Doctor. Charities have warned that thousands of people suffering from cancer and other serious illnesses could die as Health Service resources are redirected to find coronavirus we understand covert 19 is presenting our Healthcare Systems with huge challenges but it is important Cancer Patients and their needs are not forgotten about sharing this time. Influx of patients suffering from the virus means theres already a shortage of intensive care beds while operating theatres have been commandeered to handle intensive care unit overflow this is led to some surgery being perspiring such as heart operations with many patients left unsure when their procedures will go ahead a pandemic is also there to the cancellation of a wide range of clinic appointments as well as Mental Health services or one deal struck between the government and 3 private cancer clinics means that thousands of priority cases will now receive treatment outside the n. H. S. But the strain on n. H. S. Resources that led many patients with serious Health Issues frame that they will become hidden victims of the pandemic while the consequences of delaying some operations such as heart surgery could be fatal. Well for more on this ill be joined in the next hour by Consultant Cardiologist dr a see if cutscene. A frontline surgeon has taken to social media to warn people against unnecessarily wearing gloves when out in the bant during the outbreak. Im going to explain why you go need to wear gloves when you go out youve got your gloves youre at the supermarket youre touching pigs they go germs you keep touching more things throughout the day with the same gloves germs everywhere you accumulated germs your glove is now more full of john there your hand would have been if you watch each time remember dr Karen Rangarajan posted the video on social media up to talk to emphasise that wearing gloves outside a clinical setting could be doing more harm than good or their members of the public have recently been spotted outside wearing gloves shopping and while on l. Tings the doctor says that they can collect and spread more germs and study advises people to stick to the official advice by washing their hands regularly and staying safe and sensible ill be talking to dr rangarajan himself later that day here on r. T. U. K. Finally b. B. C. Radio 3 has been encouraged to play Classical Music by living composers instead of the likes of mozart and beethoven to help them financially youre in lockdown the ivers academy which represents british composers says the royalty payments would help musicians and introduce the public to lesser known works most artists are self employed and despite the government pledge to pay 80 percent of average profits over 3 years incomes in the Music Industry can vary substantially years a year in response the radio 3 controller said he was focused on keeping the station on air and that playing the music of living composers is already part of the plan or critics are concerned that such music simply isnt as popular chair of the ivers akademi i should say chair of the ivers Academy Classical committee Gary Carpenter told us morton Classical Music is actually very accessible. A lot of music that performs. That is actually starting copyright novolin williams Stravinsky Shostakovich and so forth so its not really so much a financial issue its just a question or perhaps getting some of the program roberts who was living composers in particular british and archons as were the ones who are actually kind of figure hades on this one not everything is written centauri as she said i use your ears or make sure is played i mean it actually is a lot of music i really think of music are composers like the break its about. Copy that its i mean this is music which is actually enormously approachable and i dont see why that would harm anybody if you actually got a bit of exposure. On that site from now on losing half an hour. I dont trust medical authority at all ever and the reason for that is i had this horrible autoimmune disorder growing up and it turns out it was completely alleviated with very drastic dietary measures and i went to a number of doctors to discuss what happened to me and i was basically laughed at like diet has nothing to do with autoimmune disorders so my suggestion to people who have Health Issues they cant figure out if theyre going to see a medical professional and theyve been going for 10 years and theyre still in the same place they should probably take it upon themselves to Start Testing things out testing out diet testing out exercise and try and figure out things on their own. As we head into the big coin singularity its the single most important thing that ever happened to humanity sans the creation or invention or just fire