The wiki leaks spoken for example look at the. Video which came out in 2010 a video which went around the world and horrified people showing innocent civilians in iraq being gunned down that wouldnt have been seen by other words if it hadnt have been quickly simulate the wall logs in relation to iraq and afghanistan and similarly the treatment of people in Guantanamo Bay it is because if were killing the world knows about these things because they were killing us the world has seen the evidence of these things vitally important in a democracy the. Truth is known that we know what the powerful do in our name in the name of every citizen in this country so we need to speak up for what we believe says dont need to depend defend press freedom we need to speak out against the extradition of jews in the United States america through feeling these atrocities for revealing these crimes are really revealing the horrors of war and you fair with our son so now with a large majority in parliament where the journal of genocide does get extras the United States due for parcells and assad cracking down on press freedoms head. I think one of the great problems with this situation is that its almost giving a warning to other journalists dont expose war crimes dont expose the truth dont expose the horrors of war because this may happen to you as well just imagine what would have happened when you look at the vietnam war and the trust that is committed by the united. States america that if the journalists who expose those atrocities were prosecuted afterwards its important that the world knows the truth and horror of war and we must carry on speaking out about this and just finally of course now john magaw and yourself have a pet is about this officer innocent but i wasnt as much what i was as much vocal support during the riots of the general election so will the labor party be mournful for sporting events and from now on well before the general election jeremy crowe been down our butts and myself and others spoke out against the extradition of julie the sound show leadership part so it was clear on these matters of course the labor party itself now has to decide what it wants a leadership Going Forward to be clear on these matters but its a matter for labor members to decide. If the labor leadership candidate Richard Bergen there joining me now is someone who refuses to be silent over julian songe things like cofounder roger waters roger thanks for coming in the studio at last a sign of the finely exactly youve been campaigning for julia son shelagh and lee they have talked about them by Richard Berke and you know that the british Guardian Newspaper maybe channel 4 news if you watch that you could be forgiven for thinking you know and which of bergen and others are basically campaigning for a russian agent whos committed sex arrives i mean everything that hes said now in strew. How theyre even having these extradition. Trial for Julian Assange is weird because its goes completely contrary as we know to u. K. Law so our law the law of this country the little that supposed to represent all wear wigs or addition treaty with the united today has a treaty but it specifically precludes anything that could be claimed to be a political crime or a political misdemeanor which obviously this is because julian his son is only crime is to speak the truth to the people and hes speaking truth though to a powerful elite to do not want the truth spoken to the people to go to serve is obviously believes that the espionage act that hacking these are crimes that you can exude i think they do i think has 600000 the powers that be in washington d. C. Have decided that they want julian killed or at least imprisoned for the rest of his is healthy its extremely poll. And they want to be locked up forever as an example its frightening to know that any minute they could be that standard issue kicking in the door and your talk of you know stuck into beaumarchais where you will stay until theyve had their way with you which is to silence you and any who might follow you which is that which is i mean apart from the fact that Julian Assange. Is clearly a great journalists he went he wouldnt and he went to places that other journalists were not going and he developed methods. To help we the people to find out the truth of what was going on in our names in other posts that look like as Richard Bergen was saying the collateral murder in baghdad well why do you think then that Amnesty International has chosen to declare a songes new prisoner of conscience. I did not know that what an earth does not me i mean im im asking you because you know you have said you can probably explain to me them what the hell is a prisoner of conscience theyve come up amnesty have in the in the last few years come up with some very strange fever some very strange things that are not necessarily based on anything that you and i might consider to be the fact of the matter how entrenched of these elite forces then kiss stalin was secure stormers one of the leading candidates to replace Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the opposition nearly oversaw as the head of the Prosecution Service here the edge persecution of julian. Is it all through our society of course lace but you know politicians politicians that tricky animals because theyve always got one eye on them on the meter theyre always looking to see where they stand how much power they have how popular they are or they arent horrific arenas have to perform and the love of them says overkill for musicians to a very young aspiring musician later taylor swift as someone started talking like you presumably rick would do the Recording Companies would get quite alone at alienating audiences without it that is true in my in my industry absolutely. Theres not a great oh dear Straight Talking coming out of im 76 years old and he did this for 55 years it was a big you know not quite so. And also. I have survived to date with but now brith had counted wrote a letter to the major m. O. P. Saying that it was appalling that they were what is having tickets for my shows what they always claim is im a self of no a valid they said a woman of about long standing a vowed anti semi who spreads a treat. Thats a could according to them and they do it because i support b. D. S. Because i support human rights lawyer divestment and sanctions a vote could have essman and there was the e. U. Does not support now explicitly do you think theres Something Different about this obviously Jeremy Corbin was heavily attacked for supporting palestine and Bernie Sanders whose relatives die in the hall of course some of been accusing Bernie Sanders of anti semitism trying to hang their trying the time to hang over in support of as well as on his soundness with the same code that they hung coping with by smearing smear tactics in this street sure of julian is so this post of the now with the with the flag. This is how we feel a lot of the time well the d. N. C. Obviously has be village to be attacking Bernie Sanders over the primary season just as they did in 2016 where they prevented him from becoming the next president of the United States then could you see why people are thinking its a russian agent because it stemmed from wiki leaks gain russian data that you know russia has been the biggest waste of time literally wasting everybodys time for the last where did it come from i mean its so due to chris there were about an identifiable bot steering the 2016 a how in a minute what Foreign Countries interfering in american elections what about 100000000. 00 that adelson has just given to donald trump the game reelected theres a little money arguably also going to certain interests in latin america trying to overturn the the old pink tide if we have a little bit of those we know thats how the game works on guy who was hosted by Prime MinisterBoris Johnson in downing street he met with foreign secretary dominic rob what do you make of these pictures of him being feted here in london. It makes me want to throw up because guido is right wing thug who was used by the United States government as the figurehead in there or sent to overthrow the jouni elected democratic. Government of the sovereign country of venezuela in contravention of every International Law and the un charter and Everything Else because why because they want to make money this isnt a hidden secret war leg during the eightys this is the European Union and britain booth recognizing what it was here shows how it was a city a state in the attack by neo liberal economics and the war mongering of the powerful elites how insidiously has wormed its way into places of power its a bit like in germany the blondish coming out and declaring. B. D. s a phony member not what they said but they had some if they say so you have well i mean all leadership labor candidates well the ugly greed that. How to i i mean every time theres no election when i was a kid our front room was a Committee Room for the local labor party whoa you know the local labor party from 55 on and before that for the come this party so my mom would be turning in no growth a lot of people have also been saying why do leftwing candidates like corbin like saunders talk about palestine why do they talk about venezuela these are irrelevant to me youre a liberal destruction a manufacturing jobs why are they relevant because you always campaign on these particular issues that everyday people concerned about their own lives might not think relevant to them this trust me. 2 of my great heroes in life are ken loach and john pilger who sadly cant be areas in australia i go a note from him this morning but ive seen joan poaches 2 hour long documentary in that school the dirty war on the n. H. S. And its about the dismantling of the National Health service in this country so if you really want to get me started i could weep. So he hits it day knowing that the National Health service which is the jeweler in the crown of the possibility that we might be moving towards a more equitable world off to the world will see it being sold down the river by the Boris Johnsons son a pleasant moderate that is of this world. Just breaks my heart its design for it to be privatized and held it well be that more for roger waters of this short break plus is the death of british t. V. Star Caroline Flack renew scrutiny of Rupert Murdochs media empire we speak to a man at the heart of a u. K. Inquiry into Mainstream Media oscar nominated steve coogan about media manipulation and his new film greed satirizing the billionaires of the fashion industry told visible coming over bob to have going underground. Something. On the spot that same. Time with nothing to do on that i desired to know. How much older the. Local just to. Still. Be able to show. You prince not just on thoughts the most unusual not among the. Stuff it takes to the ship but i see you. Welcome back im still with roger waters the interconnectedness here that im really addressing with you guys julie that suddenly we heard just now hes talking about guantanamo torture hes talking about the killing of journalists and civilians in iraq but then all of this talk about pharmaceutical companies and all sorts of corruption and wrongdoing is all around the around the world you see this as a hugely interconnected it is hugely interconnected and thats thats one thing that. Its that people are in the streets in santiago in chile right where where it started with a tiny crease in subway faces something that theyve realized now that there is a movement in latin america and south america but also the. Fronts and maybe one day they will even be an uprising in the United Kingdom to say oh enough so but it was well not rising to support johnson well supposedly he wanted to huge majority in poland i was coming to our will come to that but you know before i do in colombia now even though they even though the government there is very very extremely right wing and theres a dictatorship in the people who are on a general strike the whole country is rising up as well and bolivia theyre not theyre refusing to accept the coup again u. S. Financed coup that has just taken place getting rid of the julie democratic again britain recognizes the new leader of bolivia well 1st johnson would say anything its i mean i find it very difficult you know to kape straight face even but the mention of that buffoons name im sorry. But its no different than the United States where i live how do you get these people rise into these positions of extraordinary political power arguably donald trump who came to power in an antiwar ticket i mean i i spoke to judaisms in the Ecuadorian Embassy about how hillary clinton. Could will of got us into a full scale war involving syria im sure she trump was an antiwar president yet and yet and yet the United States involvement in the wars abroad has actually increased in their spending more money on it than they were in any Previous Administration under trump i mean and lets not write off the possibility that trump may do something credibly insanely stupid at the behest of the neocons visibly iran is already has murdering that monitoring customs eliminate again exactly well if you can get millions around the world to support julian a songe like he is a latter day Nelson Mandela identity politics at least has been presumably theres been massive progress on it since you started out but even in their. Own leg Josie Manning who is refusing to testify against judaism and its day 346 of her exacerbations ton credit was a brave woman people think Chelsea Manning is a traitor and that she deserves everything that she gets the hatred was so intense music has been such a great part of rebellion against elites over history obviously in south africa and so on presumably thats why you turned up outside the home office here to protest about the incarceration of julie the surge hardly any people turned up i have have to say are you saying thats again propaganda hardly any people turned up and not a single word was printed in any english or american newspaper of that event apart from on r t but obviously i dont listen that all the Television Networks here would say no one told them dont cover roger waters singing wish you were here in ignorance of performance so its all what its in their heads oh. People arent stupid where you think journalists arent coming out and in bed drove sit in their hundreds of thousands to defend judea you dont have to ride to peoples forehead so they read it every morning when they go up to shave they go oh look of mustnt step out of line or i wont get that promotion i was because i wont be given that job over this one how about what happens when you fly a big pig above a demonstration of the mother of all parliaments what are you drawing to do will get attention. That for instance a pig that would go flying over here now. Has got a big picture of the American Flag over his face and it says free is in on the of the so it is describes the moment where its going to start from whats going to finish and the fact going to be on air and im going to open my big mouth in public so. For me the pick has become a way of attracting attention to it because people recognize it so its familiar its a bit like we dont need no education is familiar to most people its in their minds so that in and if you want to get peoples attention then and and and. You have access to Iconic Images so well it is lyrics and news do you think the tide is now turning in judaism does favor even some Mainstream Media outlets maybe reporting on this trial starting on monday and realizing that the very same out of the reporting of the case may not be able to do journalism i think. Fingers crossed you know. One dreads to show any faith that just at this particular moment while hes languishing in belmarsh in a tiny cell a man has committed no crime and as we know the strings are being absolutely pulled from the United States its a tiny courtroom and its almost full of american advisors american lawyers sitting behind the english q. C. Whos prosecuting whos prosecuting the case so will you we will those of us who care about democracy and freedom and human rights and more importantly running mate and the magna carta and english jurisprudence and the law desperately want to believe that the law will prevail because this is not a law its a Kangaroo Court and to have a Kangaroo Court taking place in my home and distresses me beyond all belief is this what my father my grandfather died for no its not we need to be able to rely on the law and this is a sure or come on people lets lets. Take to the streets where i am or if you will to spank you well while Julian Assange just been mostly ignored by Mainstream Media one story that hasnt is the death of reality t. V. Host Caroline Flack questions similar to those are asked af