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RT Going Underground July 12, 2024
Its about the attacks but its also about the attacks that took place a few days later on a kosher supermarket here in paris where more people were killed and what the National Anti terror prosecutor here in france are said while this might not be about the men that carried out those attacks because they are dead this is about that wide web of individuals who supported them or who perhaps finance them or shielded them in the aftermath of those attacks and this also comes as finances interior minister warns that while this trial is about the historical event an event that is still something that is poignant in french memory there is also something that we must remember he talked about and that is the fact that there is still a huge threat of terror here in france it is the internal threat within our walls which has become the most significant. And the strongest one which mobilizes the most attention of the Intelligence Services are now also talked about more than 8000. 00 individuals still being on a french database of suspected islam ists that could potentially pose a Security Threat here in france and he said that their full attention was needed on those individuals talking about the resilience of networks such as Islamic State and he also mentioned the number of individuals in prison that are connected to islam is threats and talked about the radicalization in prisons he said that the majority of those individuals who were radicalized in prisons have then gone on to commit their own terror offenses when theyve been released now the trial is about those 2 messages it surely abdo and the kosher supermarket here in paris and they heralded in a new wave of terror that has and compass france now for more than 5 years. I am so while many people thought the focus would be on the trial starting in paris many people are now looking at what surely was done with the republication of those controversial satirical cartoons of the muslim prophet mohammed with many people questioning whether this was the right decision was this about sort of standing up for freedom of speech was this about remembering those who was slain at its offices or is this something that could really radicalize islamists across the world and incite a new wave of terror. We took the opportunity to speak a french publisher and journalist Emerick Moore feel he believes that some of those defending the magazine are using it to push their own agendas this horrible tax there was such a reaction of horror that there are some people have lost their their heads which are unfortunately is a tribute to the politics of terror but thought for example there was a fashionable journalist who said this at this moment those who are not shanti must be punished. But im sorry but just because i think i find these attacks horrible doesnt mean that i have to identify myself with the newspapers whose political life i have never appreciated the and we know where this hatred and contempt have led and the worst thing in france would be in the name of defending freedom of expression freedom of speech we allowed ourselves to be drawn into a war of civilization which would claim ever more victims can assure you. You were turned into R T International on a busy news day our top story analysis of the folly poisoning claims from germany will be going more indepth into that story on more besides after the break stay with us. The world is driven by a dream shaped by. The day. We dare to ask. Her back with our to international indeed with her top story just lets go through the me and auspex of it germany is claiming the russian opposition figure alexina folly was poisoned with a novacek nerve agent of ali is currently in a medically induced coma and a berlin hospital after being earth did from russia a fortnight ago and the kremlin has said its willing to cooperate in the probe but has received no information from germany the case. Lets get some live reaction now on welcome to the Program Political analyst journalist vulture always good to see you cant we start with one particular aspect that perhaps i havent been asking the other guests on it seems to me. Quite interesting that. Chalk is extremely potent andrea and anyone who comes into contact with it is likely to to fall seriously our correspondent was going through it just a tiny drop you know on a lot of people are going to get hurt thats what happened in seoul to bring back in 20000 in the u. K. It did not happen in thompson though which is where natalee was allegedly attacked surely that aspect of things needs to be investigated thoroughly. Yes of course and no it should get surely its very fast its deadly. And oh awk is ations that we here are from the west are right now pointing at the kremlin pointing at president which you dont absolutely any proof its basically the lot schick of the accusations is well know that choke was created during the. Invented during the soviet union era and it was chemical it was a biological but whatever you want to call it and thats enough for them to claim that the kremlin is actually responsible for the attack or for poisoning go for mr them all they know this is so they didnt give us of course because 1st of all he was not only a critic of the. Russian. President a government the us also investigating many corruptions and many many enemies many enemies of yours and of whom you know its. He will sit in the deep sea weary and city of donetsk over this happened and he actually boarded the plane blade it was they were to do almost and you know top school which i know but it well is a city of corruption thrives and there are many. Who d probably would like to see mr number all the dead but why certainly we dont any prove our figures point that the president would sit in the. But its not only i suppose the proof its its the analysis as well about who profits from this why at such a time a tense diplomatic relations with with russia on the west thats something that this would happen and it would jeopardize relations even further does it make sense to you. Well it makes sense although if you are lies its one of the boring too few for less than propaganda and how they want to get my liege from this if you look at the b. B. C. This almost like if you are reading so or a belly of. A ball to a ministerial floor or other writers writing about the but history of truth b. B. C. Is basically telling you what you are supposed to think but there is an article which says what you should know. All oyster think of as the gov all that and its basically going will. Look boy balloon boy. Putting the ideas to readers or will be you are smiling the whole the are supposed to read all this all the supposed to. Act so. Broke again there is there is no or there are no there is no information there is no proof whatsoever of who. Will truly to know but those nobody knows busy. Not even mr love all the proof. Is in the medically induced coma germany those. Make it out testify to what he has any information you have me or German Government his life is potentially at stake and with out in mind weve seen today germany reaching out to western allies but theres been a distinct lack of communication with moscow the Russian Foreign ministry in fact saying requests for cooperation the just gone unanswered as our correspondent said its like talking to a brick wall thats the example i was given is it in berlin interest to work with russia here im good and you know get an investigation going on try and actually pin point what happened where it happened and what can be done about it. Well germany other countries like japan for example germany dns always adopts Foreign Policy which is very close to washington and. European union at large they show their teeth once in a while they protest against interference in the mystic Affairs Economic affairs as was so moved by appliance about the dnd actually always showing d the jury and the line. Actually very sad to see intricately come 3 of 18000000 behaving in this mother but they always do when it comes to big but it Big International issues especially when it comes to china and it goes through russia it is always india. But the united beston policy against against this country sort of when it goes through other places for example not necessarily because. If you doubt it was just ridiculous what would happen to the us actually. The whole growing. But the but it goes sort of should china if you followed if you followed closely the approach of European Union Member States particularly germany it is always the united against anything well i think. That thats the state what about german people do you think because even before the 19th you had the foreign minister of germany heikal mass saying that sanctions would be introduced against russia this is before i reiterate if novelli was find have been poisoned how much appetite do you think there is in europe in fact right now for a new i new sanctions war there is no other way to say it is there. Unfortunately german sort of not but distance and all this i will see. 10 days to go and talk to people about international politics. Straight through to phase the issue of global. Economic and social hardship know in germany are the issues the german people are interested they will unfortunately all this is happening now in berlin and it will happen to all the flights almost as something that they should but as the media Mainstream Media not question too much there is simply no actually to the lies anything. It is selfish of it is so sore and i dont think that they will be challenging the issue of related to the ship unfortunately as they would challenge it and things related to china. Just one aspect to what we have you on the program not is of the north stream to project and its an interesting case here because for a long time you know if i had almost the sense of pride i think in germany standing up to us at temps to derail it this is the project between russia and germany of course but no in the wake of developments today were starting to see utterances from the german opposition saying that possibly this should be stopped you know what do you think is going to happen with it what will it be on schedule to be completed this massive massive project between 2 countries thats going to you know lead to a lot of gas for european customers yes well the actually. d did it is a lot of interest among sure. People because that would bring down the prices so in this respect it was very important to germany german public and German Government but really to actually fight against. Imposition of the us interests in this case case and you were very correct also there was some are some brides and all that now i think the German Government can now say that the face but at this is they could say well we are going to back up from this project although its going to be financially very bad for germany and for german people but they are going to do it because of the of the russian poisoning of of the opposition figure so they will be playing the scarlets probably maybe they were there to back up from the norths through to just. You know because the United States will do to back up but now there is a way to save face and when nobody is looking too much into it everybody is so obsessed with the id the just slowly starts with their wing cribbed this project its very shameful but the may happen on cancer situation will be closely following here on the program andrea thank you as always for your take political analyst under list ungrateful check life on the program thank you so much. Lets try and fit in some more global news stories this hour before we go to a short break donald trump has ignored calls from local leaders to stay away from the violence stricken city of ken oshea in wisconsin arriving on choose they he praised the police know tensions between Trump Supporters on black lives mater of protesters ramped up in fact during his time in the city. Is the latest u. S. Hot spot for rallies and riots against alleged racism and Police Brutality thats after a black man was shot by officers last month after resisting arrest and attempting to get back into his car 2 people were killed in the protests that followed the shooting with the city suffering mustve damage to personal property business is really about it being there for generations demolished the president has again stressed that us police are not systematically racist. But i think the police do an incredible job. And i think you do have some bad apples i think youd agree every once in a while you see something and you do have the other situation to. Under this tremendous pressure in the they dont have to look well. Mr trumps main president ial rival joe biden has posted a video of himself and his running mates solving a socially distanced chant they discuss trumps alleged inability to deal with the coronavirus crisis. You know you think of all the people today who because of the negative way in which this president s walked away with dealing with the cove crisis my god the way its been responded to. Such talk is is not going exactly done well with everybody because many of their peers are turning their backs on the 2 party system looking for alternatives one growing movement is the new Peoples Party it attracted thousands of americans to its Virtual Convention over the weekend picking up that story for us. Deep divisions in america and dissatisfaction with centuries of 2 party rule have forced Many Americans so look for alternatives on the heels of the democratic and Republican Conventions 8 Peoples Convention was held gathering the hundreds of thousands of disappointed left wingers and the people must have a. President we dont need a. Rallying cry for new major party 20 year 10 days of the Peoples Convention feel that neither candidate really represents a choice for the working class instead they want political leaders who will stand up to wall street and the political elites long. As you. Can tell the criteria of integrity wall street was certainly delighted when joe biden was nominated as the democratic candidate perhaps this is because joe biden has admitted that not much is really going to change when speaking to his wealthy donors i mean we may not want to demonize anybody has made money no 1. 00 standard of living will change nothing would fundamentally change another theme at the Peoples Convention was the constant expansion of us wars and the expanding presence of u. S. Military forces overseas as soon as i take office i will ask congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military it is so depleted we will prevail. Were going to have the Strongest Military weve ever had by far were increasing arsenals of virtually every weapon were making our military stronger and more powerful than ever before attendees of the Peoples Convention called for free college for all a Green New Deal and an end to mass incarceration they slammed joe biden for not supporting medicare for all even during the pandemic. With all due respect to medicare for all you have a single payer system in italy it doesnt work there and has nothing to do with medicare for all that would not solve the problem at all protests against systemic racism and Police Brutality that havent gulf the country now have both candidates throwing gasoline on the fire this president long ago forfeited a moral leadership in this country he cant stop the violence because for years hes fought management here supporters here supporters and they are your supporters and did shut a young gentleman who killed him now with paint but with a bullet. And i think its disgraceful Peoples Convention attendees voted at the end of their convention to form a Peoples Party that would sweep the u. S. Elections in 2021 and hopefully take control of the white house and the us congress by 2024 3rd parties have always existed in america but they generally get marginalized and pushed aside while the 2 major parties dominate the political stage however the Peoples Party is hoping to reverse that trend and become a new force in american politics seizing the spotlight it will mop and artsy new york we also got the thoughts of writer and comedian wrong pleco who says neither of the 2 main parties truly reflect the views of the majority all of americans. Its been a very very very long time since there was a new viable Political Party in the United States but if you kind of look at whats going on right now contemporarily now seems like the time for history to repeat itself and the bigger issue at hand here is just how far gone on the. The pandemic has shown that we have a corporate coup for a government we have a Banana Republic we have a government that. Not only doesnt give a hoot about Public Opinion but works actively against it and this is by design republicans are only able to be as horrific as they are because of how ineffective democrats are similarly democrats are only able to be as ineffective as they are because of how the problems are. Just not reflect the people who live here the largest voting bloc in the United States are people who dont vote and people who dont associate with either Political Party. Lets bring you to the middle east where tensions are starting to rise dozens of palestinians have clashed with us really soldiers in the west Bank Tel Aviv steps up its drive to build a new Industrial Zone there. Yes. You know. Several people were reportedly injured during the confrontation the Israeli Forces whomping tasked with protecting heavy equipment including bulldozers now they will be used to clear the way for the new Industrial Zone which will be located near the city of toll car. This year the israeli authorities have intensified the demolition of homes in East Jerusalem though they say the buildings there the 2 wellings are gonna legally and it is all happening despite the demick of course the ongoing economic crisis in the area to in many cases the residents themselves take down the settlements as they can be charged large fees for bringing in crews the israeli municipality in jerusalem insists the homes are only torn down if built illegally with a special permit or a local human Rights Groups say there is little real chance of winning such a permit for palestinians. As you can see i was forced to demolish my own home because of the farm i worked the night to build this house for my family and then these really authority surprised us by calling of the 2nd dave telling us that the house had to come down they didnt even care about the holiday or the coronavirus situation the actions of the Israeli Government try to make us leave this land but no matter what we wont go. We saw what happened with them and weve seen this happen time and time again. Destroyed my shop income i needed to feed my family the municipality wont allow us to build houses which forces the Palestinian People to do it without a permit. Ok before we go to break just a brief reminder of our breaking news story here on the Program Germany is claiming the russian opposition figure out. Was poisoned with a novacek nerve agent but moscow is saying its request for information. On the case of so far gone absurd. Were bringing you updates live analysis on the story right throughout the coming hours here in our 2 International Hope youll stay with us. Trade and investment have become magic spells to conjure economic development. Most people think about trade they think about goods and services being exchanged between countries and the investor chopped or of a trade agreement as opposed to something very different but what one investment leads to toxic manufacturing that destroys sacred sites all ruins the environment. That means that if local communities that are being poisoned if they object if they do anything that the company feels is interrupting their profits they can be sued multinationals are taking on the whole nations Philip Morris is trying to use i. S. T. s to stop tour of the way from implementing new tobacco regulations aimed at cutting domestic smoking rates a fringe company sued egypt because egypt raise its minimum wage democratic choice over trump Corporate Law joining us as we try to find dont want to. Join me every thursday on the alex im unsure and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. Throughout its history jon just with the selfproclaimed Islamic State terrorist. Group have recruited up to 30000 foreigners from in over the world to find. Out. What. Sounds of russian citizens left their country to join the terrorists often bringing wives and children with them. But he is not going to be done. That as a new could no. More new to the move hundreds of children and widows were held captive all disappeared. Back in russia those children families wait search form. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. Spearing Dramatic Development the only really im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very. Time to sit down and talk. Nixon never mind the boys and with a substance from the know the true group hes the victim for crime someone tried to shut him up breaking news on r. T. The German Government russian opposition figure. Was poisoned with the nerve agent known. But the kremlin has received no communication on the findings. Coming up on the program the french said to recall magazine surely reprints its controversial cartoons reigniting the states over whether they cross the line as the trial of 14 people accused of involvement in the 2015 terrorists that targeted the publication gets underway