Of an Educational Program as cultural resistance as well. The resistance in particular towards whats as a false perception of palestine number owns, which is the results of, from the propaganda by those who impose the apartheid and often by the Mainstream Media and foreign governments who, who go alone without the goose, has before and 4 times and friends and just came back from italy, the travel, thats how most of the kids was the 1st time leading palestine was a challenge. And the able to like, when we go, they done thinking eyes our best books like where does it, where does it by this time, like whats going through this and the event to go to italy like we went a couple of weeks ago and we like sort of the looked like 2 days to go to the country that its 5 hours in the blue. And then you saw in acquires repertoire. It was written by young and famous boy. It from guys to kelly state in enclave on limited to in and in french. The what we want as palestine and to show to the other parts of the world as we are in the humans. We love music. We love to live as, as the other people and we, i to a piece for the nation. The choir is made up of around 60 boys in goals age, age 218 from bethlehem and heavy. Not exactly a big number, but they represent 3000000 palestinians living in the west bank and more than 2000000 others from guys, a flyer on wash, meaning they have a voice coming from the heart of the mountain stimulus ration and the horns to will resonate. And send waves across the world, raising awareness about the daily hardship. Research in ocoee from palestine know a spectacular display of color lit up the night sky over brushes, Northern Capital of Saint Petersburg, bringing in to Navy Day Celebrations in the country. It all started with an inspection of more than 40 ships and submarines along the river. Neither of a president ial address to know what it is really. Vehicles must float for centuries. Our fleet has been and remains on going to the boat is of the fall, the ladder, its pride and glory. Therefore, the celebrations in honor of the fleet to celebrate did by the hold of russia. The history of a fleet is shaped as main purpose. The protection of the fatherland prussia is confidently implementing the toss of the national maritime, honestly, consistently increasing the power of its fleet this year alone. So the 2 ships of different classes have joined the fleet into explore. While youre joining me from a beautifully sony Saint Petersburg, the june of the north rush of 2nd capital, a beautiful city. And of course, today is the celebration of navy day, a huge naval prey taking place here. And of course, across russia. Various parades, lots of people taking part of a 12 and a half 1000 personnel over a 150 ships of rushes fleet of over 330 active ships. Taking part also, there are over a 150000. 00 men and women serving in the russian navy today active in the missions across the globe, helping russia project, its power, defend itself as defend its trade routes. Its never been more important than russia can rely on a strong, independent, and well resort navy. Of course st. Petersburg itself. This great city and the navy are inexplicably entwined. We tutor peter the great, the architect of the modern russian imperial navy. Also the architect of this beautiful city and the 2 of 12 together, 2 hundreds of years of trial tabulation victories and defeats. It has to be said, but today the russian navy is most certainly a central pillar in russias defense strategy. Its also important to note that this is a family day. Its a day where a veterans and families from across russia can celebrate their participation in the russian navy, to the great patriotic war, where the russian navy served to a valiant and very, very brave purpose. Trying to defend russia from its enemies today in a new multi polar world. St. Petersburg has been the center of many important meetings at the st. Petersburg economic form, the african summit. And many of those African Leaders have stayed here to witness as a guest of honor with Vladimir Putin and the parade passed before us today. Again, russia now a pre eminent power, particularly in the submarine warfare with the belgrade vessel on arrival globally, with assignment system. It can carry russia projecting its power very confidently. Today, despite the conflict in ukraine, despite the active operations there, the russian people are here in force with their families, with the veterans and with the active serving members the navy to give science to them, along with president food shaped bows ortiz st. Petersburg. So noah seems to shine on the day. Next we sit down with the some of the 1st legally elected Prime Minister of the democratic republic of congo. Later assassinated in the belgian orchestrated could. Roland new number speaks about the legacy of his father, patrice. And how he views africas place in the world today. Many other subjects as well are broached and its right ahead the move on to see the gold greetings everyone. Were here with roland bloomberg, head of the patrice emory lumber foundation. Good afternoon, mr. Lumber. Good afternoon. Lets start with this. Why is it important for you to be here in Saint Petersburg . For the rest of africas summit, it just seems simple phone plus the, the limo, but foundation is happy to be present, whereas africa can or should make decisions. So we get to witness whats going on 1st hand and participate. We believe that sounds of all the continents of the world. There was still much to be done in africa. The us felt it was important to organize that conference with africa, china and from civil side on the side. And it is quite natural that a big country like russia is not lagging behind them or was invited to the 1st somebody in searching. We believed that all countries both need each other, especially because we dont have and they havent had historical claims against russia all the soviet union as we do against other countries on issues of all shit balls. And we dont forget that the union contributed to our freedom, helped some african countries to free themselves of that colonial status. Old in all i see only the positives and i think its important to identify opportunities for positive Development Together as platform where everyone can speak out while we have some success. Since the corner of education might come up, well get back to that. But now id like to ask your opinion on the peoples friendship, university of russia, one of the most prestigious universities in the country. Once more being named in honor of patrice lumber, i imagined that was important for you as someone who is dedicated to preserving the legacy of patrice limone by the con, the least statesman who is considered the 1st nationalist, 0 of the democratic republic of congo. Afterwards. Independence, he said russia was part of his journey and he left her rich legacy here. Maybe as of course, it was of great importance to us. We followed the story with great interest. When we found out that it happened, we couldnt miss the chance to write to the russian authorities and the Academic Community to thank them once again for the on a given to one great here, right . To a here right with the come go of africa and of the well on his memory has been on it. And were very grateful for this. Just yeah. The oscar bleeding finance for the the can you tell us a little bit about the contribution the lumber made to the development of strong ties between your region and the then soviet union. And later on to relations with russia. How did that relationship come about . It last saw the relationship with limone, but really developed when he saw support from the un was refused. He then turned towards the soviet union on saturday, agreed to provide him with an airplane. Of course, it wasnt anything grand, but it showed an eagerness to help us. And from that point on the many of his opponents began to regard him as a communist. Although our country at that time had not yet developed an understanding of the concept of communism. After his death, the then the soviet union educated many of his associates relations with good advice during the members lifetime and off to his death. As you know, the Members Associates remain loyal to the us as well as a new to. Yeah. And so you could say that he was the one who started this relationship. Fairly nice. Yeah, yes. You could put it that way. He established that relationship when he made his request. And then he forward for simulate principles packed in the soviet union was helping a number of countries from and go to, to mozambique. Countries that were progressive for the time. And then they were fighting the same cause. It will still come off. So what i source and how has this relationship changed up until today . You mentioned higher education. Are there other areas in which the special relationship has developed or not . And the congo, no, of course some members of the leadership went to patrice of the member university. They didnt become overly pro western, but its believed that in the bhutto became these young dom with the United States in our region. So this is more likely to apply to other countries in the region. So during mobutu his rule, the country turned its back on russia. Why the in the same face . Exactly for the entire 34 years then in the world divided into 2 camps. The Members Associates found more supports in the eastern bloc countries, made the payment, they found the form, but after the end of mobutu, his rule to relation start to improve again. So when the end of looters rule came, they should be mentioned that at that time pressure was beginning its recovery from the collapse of the soviet union and relations with the african countries. Not so long ago said the menu. Exactly. The relations had gone down, never less where a game determined to review my relations because we have a certain affection for russia. Its very noticeable for the people. So in your opinion, what does the secret of this close mutual affinity between russia and africa . So go to the fast say, as i said before, we dont have a painful pause in all relations with russia. Nothing there tomorrow, relations. And yet, but come, yes, unlike relations with the west, which has been scarred by the slave trade, come lies ation neo colonialism. Were still trying to shed light on some of the manifestations. Yes, we cooperates but not on an equal foot take because with russia everything thats happened has been on a clean grounds. You can say that immediately without pause to think about it. And this is what weve been striving for almost 60 years of the independence to be respected, to be accepted as equals. Were striving for a relationship that is beneficial to both. Despite the propaganda, this being made against russians in africa, its noticeable that its not changing peoples attitudes as intended. Similar can open your, what opinions do the african population, especially the french speaking population have about africa. What are their thoughts on russia to see on file . If you talk about the french speaking positive and forgot the media that have a lot of influence, listen to there at least 90 percent west and mediately. We wake up to the sound of our if i baby say voice of america, best dollars towards cooperation between europe and russia is of course, most style. But the coming man doesnt feel that whole standing think its surprising lately. I cant even say what explains it. Given all the techniques of the west, however, there is sympathy for a symbol of the states, such as the president , an inexplicable sympathy for president potency. We even have such a joke in africa and especially in congo almost every way you can encounter such a concept as seen you already, right . So this is when you respect someone who is older areas, you have to listen to what they tell you and be respectful. Yes, you have to listen to them. Even the address reflects this when you address and now that you say elder brother, recently, ordinary people, when talking about putin started quoting him, elder brother po, to my call and say, why i wonder why indeed they say big brother boots and he because of it, i say, whats the big curve, its you that why is it thats he defeated cove, it the foldable started and ukraine. We went to sleep and woke up with constant reports that so many people died from cultivate. So many people were infected toby, this guy with that since the war broke out, because it hasnt been heard of. The media is focused, has completely switched. Its a disease that affects everyones life, you couldnt move around freely, etc. And today there are no restrictions, and we say its all likes to food thing. I see. Its just a junk calls that even though it does Say Something though, so yeah, but they were looking for a reason to express their appreciation. Thats it. Oh, yes. Okay, so that, that sounds great with everything to suit. Now, id like to come back to one interesting point you raised to western media ubiquitously appearing in africa and also in russia. And russia is trying to include a media portrait of africa through various media outlets, which includes r t, how do you see this initiative to push the post . Its rather a positive thing because other ways of getting information would be the ability to travel to move from country to country. And so i want to, as the internet is not available to everyone, we have many other tools, full comparison for the average person who stays in the back country is contents wave just this will radio receive the struggle speak up frequency while i dont know. And even if it does, its r f, i all of want to the route and thats it. Its basically the only source of information. So song, because its an interpretation in the transmission of information, it would be transmitted and there relies the advantage of that despite this interference, they are beginning to be critical of the west in the processing of information is, are they really so its a very positive trend on brushes spot to work on providing information, it will be beneficial for all of us. You know, just get over to the details of the service. After talking to various participants in the summit, it seems that there is a demand from the population for i diversity a few points to help them develop their own opinions. Yes, yes. Of course, of course, because there is a desire to bring. Yesterday i was invited to a Panel Discussion on time. African is in its origin, and it was attended by the children of those who gave political expression to this time. African is, im not saying all of a time by mentality the moon, but everyone was there to discuss the time african ism and its origins. It surprised me. I felt very proud of that. At one time, as some of that initiative was launched in tripoli by president , get that free. But that was expected, understandable. Hes an african, the leader of an african country is perfectly natural, says russia is not an african country, but its still k is about this issue. This is a really positive thing, and we africans will need to take advantage of this to explain the more precisely what pam african ism is, how exactly to come to this African Solidarity that the found his parents who created this concept with striving to establish on the consummate and im very grateful to russia but considering these things. And how would you define pan african is some is african, the solidarity bucks on a high level. Youre a foreigner, you come to my village. I said, you interesting to, you know, its small of them. That is what was at the heart of the conception of the European Union and the ability to confront big commonalities, like the United States, china and other countries to occupy almost whole continents to become today. Well, i cannot mccloud the phone, let me see. I dont like social because of cologne utilization. We lost a lot in terms of culture and identity and in the fiftys and sixtys, people thought it was important for us to come together. Stand up to these pretend is the danger then it seemed to come more from the europeans who came to col, nice us now trying to raise active. The United States is active and its kerry white numbers are important on a cultural level. Having started thinking about this many years ago, we believe that we need to what to be recognized after all, the country, one that 1000000 people is a community. And then the board is that have been drawn sitting around the table in the lane or somewhere else. Theres such countries in africa, it seems that pan african isnt as a concept, is becoming more and more popular, more more people are talking about. It is really the case with yes, it is becoming more and more popular, but you have to teach it more because Many Political leaders prefer to be king of the village rather than the route the city . No, no, i have my own the country. I want solvency. I want to be in charge. I want, we need to go beyond this kind of thinking and consider that community to people much larger a much more useful community. So 8 policies. It all takes time. It takes education. Its all slowly evolving through the discussion of these concepts with several most us in the middle here. Yes, its starting to develop and many young people, even Young Africans who grew up in the west, starting to adhere to these concepts, trying to communicate them to others, to explain them. And thats a positive thing to west or media, especially the french media. Do not hesitate to denigrate the pan african, his movements, the supporters of sovereignty, and de, legitimize it at the 1st opportunity. What do you think are the reasons for this . The reason for marrying . Yeah. The principle of divide and rule. Its a mass as a dispatch. Its much easier to control when the population of the country is one to 2000000 people, but is much easier to manipulate, to control these people. Thats the reason why theyre moving in that direction. This is chris, i think just trust them. Are these attempts at manipulation effective . Do they work . They work because we allow ourselves to be bribes. They not effective 100 percent of the time, but you can see the some latest do not subscribe to the concepts of pan african ism, they prefer the concept of everyone will keep their little privileges. Were afraid of losing their privileges and such a large community. It takes a lot of explaining to show the benefits of membership in logic groupings or off. Okay. Yeah, because there are many people in the you want to leave this type of big association. Are there no c