Including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. All and all. During the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than 6000000. 00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. In 1973, the American Army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the pop and regime. And so i got involved. However, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. More than 1000000 in vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors known in vietnam, american war the vietnam war lost it for almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries north with nouns. But youre saying dont say now why its all im empty. Hundreds of thousands of american troops who was sent to the country to back the south vietnamese on me. I dont know about that not, but the american soldiers murdered resistors. Most of us like the down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. And li bye. 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You will get onto to ship tesla today and push people up on the on the move on to see the gold greetings. Everyone were here with me with bloomberg. Head of the patrice emory lumber foundation. Good afternoon, mr. Lumber. Good afternoon. Lets start with this. Why is it important for you to be here in Saint Petersburg for the russia africa summit . It just seem simple song plus the the number of foundation is happy to be present, whereas africa can or should make decisions. So we get to witness whats going on 1st hand and participate. We believe that south of all the continents of the world, there was still much to be done in africa. The us felt it was important to organize a conference with africa, china and from civil side on the side. And it is quite natural that a big country like russia is not lagging behind them or was invited to the 1st somebody in searching. We believe that all countries both need each other, especially because we dont have and they havent had historical claims against russia. All the soviet union, as we do against other countries on issues of all shit balls. And we dont forget that the union contributed to all freedom helped some african countries to free themselves of that colonial status. Old in all i see only the positives and i think its important to identify opportunities for positive Development Together as a platform where everyone can speak out loud and you have something set since the corner particulars and well get back to that. But now id like to ask your opinion on the peoples friendship, university of russia, one of the most prestigious universities in the country, once more being named in honor of patrice lymphoma, i imagined that was important for you as someone who is dedicated to preserving the legacy of patrice lumber, the congolese statesman, who is considered the 1st National Hero of the democratic republic of congo, afterwards. Independence, he said, russia was part of his journey and he left her rich legacy here a bit. Of course it was of great importance to us. We followed the story with great interest. When we found out it happened, we couldnt miss the chance to write to the russian authorities and the Academic Community to thank them once again for the on a given to one great here, right . To a here right with the come go of africa, end of the well on his memory has been on it. And were very grateful for this. Just yeah. The oscar bleeding finance for the can you tell us a little bit about the contribution the lumber made to the development of strong ties between your region and the then soviet union. And later on to relations with russia. How did that relationship come about . Their last shot, the relationship with them, but really developed when he saw support from the un was refused. He then turned towards the soviet union. They agreed to provide him with an airplane. Of course, it wasnt anything grand, but it showed an eagerness to help us. And from that point on the many of his opponents began to regard him as a communist. Although our country at that time had not yet developed an understanding of the concept of communism. After his death, the then soviet union educated many of his associates relations with good by during the members lifetime and off to his death. As you know, the Members Associates remain loyal to the us as well as a new teacher. And so you could say that he was the one who started this relationship. Fairly nice. Yeah, yes. You could put it that way. He established that relationship when he made his request. And then he fought for simulate principles. Backed in the soviet union was helping a number of countries from and go to, to mozambique. Countries that were progressive for the time. And then they were fighting the same cause. It will still come off. So what i saw and how has this relationship changed up until today . You mentioned higher education. Are there other areas and whats the special relationship has developed or not . And they can go no. Of course, some members of the leadership went to patrice of them, but university, they didnt become overly pro western. But its believed that in the bhutto became these young dom with the United States and our region. So this is more likely to apply to other countries in the region. So during mobutu has ruled, the country turned its back on russia. Why the, it may seem, pay us exactly for the entire 34 years then and it will divided into 2 camps. The Members Associates found more supports in the eastern bloc countries, made the payment of the problem, the phone, but after the end of mobutu, his rule to relation start to improve again. When the end of looters rule came, it should be mentioned that at that time pressure was beginning its recovery from the collapse of the soviet union and relations with the african countries. The love is not so long ago and said the menu, exactly. The relations have gone down, never less where a game determined to resume our relations because we have a certain affection for russia. Its very noticeable if it were the people. So in your opinion, what is the secret of this close mutual affinity between russia and africa . So going to defy say, as i said before, we dont have a painful pause in all relations with russia. Nothing there tomorrow relations. But for me, yes, unlike relations with the west which have been scarred by the slave trade kind of lies ation, neo colonialism. Were still trying to shed light on some of the manifestations. Yes, we cooperates but not on an equal for tape. Of course, with russia and everything thats happened has been on the clean grounds. You can say that immediately without pause to think about it. And this is what weve been striving for, for almost 60 years of the independence to be respected. Being accepted as equals, were striving for a relationship that is beneficial to both. Despite the propaganda, this being made against the russians in africa, its noticeable that its not changing peoples attitudes as intended. A similar can open your what opinions to the african population, especially the french speaking population have about africa. What are their thoughts on russia, seo, but if we talk about the french speaking positive and forgot the media that kind of a lot of in fluids listen to there at least 90 percent west and media. We wake up to the sound of our, if i bbc, voice of america, best on this towards cooperation between europe and russia is of course, most though, but the coming man doesnt feel that whole stand a thing. Its surprising and lately i cant even say what explains it, given all the techniques of the west. However, there is sympathy for a symbol of the state, such as the president , an inexplicable sympathy for president booting these. We even have such a joke in africa, especially in congo almost every way you can encounter such a concept as seen you already, right. So this is when you respect someone who is older areas, you have to listen to what they tell you and be respectful. Yes, you have to listen to them. Even the address reflects this when you address and now that you say elder brother. Recently, ordinary people, when talking about putin is started quoting him, elder brother po, to my call and say, why i wonder why indeed they say big brother fruits. And he, because i say, whats the big curve . Its the thats why is it the ti defeated curve, a foldable started and ukraine. We went to sleep and woke up with constant reports that so many people died from color, but so many people were infected toby, this guy with that. And since the war broke out, skype, it hasnt been hood only because the media is focused, has completely switched. Its a disease that affects everyones life. You couldnt move around freely, etc. And today, there are no restrictions, and we say its always likes to food stamp. I see its just a junk of course, that even though it does Say Something though, so yeah. But they were looking for a reason to express their appreciation. Thats it. Oh, yes. Okay. So that, that i saw over there to the to the street. Now id like to come back to one interesting point you raised to western media ubiquitously appearing in africa and also in russia. And russia is trying to include a media portrait of africa through various media outlets, which includes r t. How do you see this initiative . The post, its rather a positive thing because other ways of getting information would be the ability to travel to move from country to country. And so i want the internet is not available to everyone. We have many other tools, full comparison for the average person who stays in the back country is contents with just a simple radio receiver struggle speak up frequency, g, y dot notes. And even if it does, its r f i o live want to the roof, and thats it. Its basically the only source of information song because its an interpretation in the transmission of information it will be transmitted. And they realize the advantage of that, despite this interference, they beginning to be critical of the west in the processing of information is, are they really so its a very positive trained on russia spots to work on providing information. It will be beneficial for all of us. You know, this gets all the details on the telephone on this or after talking to various participants in the summit. It seems that there is a demand from the population for i take 1st city a few points to help them develop their own opinions. Yes. Yes. Of course, of course, because there is it designed to bring. Yesterday i was invited to a Panel Discussion on time. African is a, its origin. And it was attended by the children of those who gave political expressions to this time. African is, im not saying all the time by mentality, the moon. But everyone was there to discuss the time african ism and its origin. It surprised me. I felt very proud of that because the one time is similar. That initiative was launched in tripoli by president. Get that free. But that was expected, understandable. Hes an african, the leader of an african country is perfectly natural since prussia is not an african country, but its still cares about this issue. Now this is a really positive thing, and we africans will need to take advantage of this to explain the more precisely what pam african ism is, how exactly to come to this African Solidarity that the found his parents who created this concept with striving to establish on the continent, and im very grateful to rushes to considering these things. And how would you define pan african isnt this African Solidarity bucks on a high level . Youre a foreigner, you come to my village. I feed you in saying to, you know, its small of them. That is what was at the heart of the conception of the European Union and the ability to confront big commonalities, like the United States, china and other countries to occupy almost whole continents to become today. Well, i cannot mccloud moss, economic social because of cologne utilization. We lost a lot in terms of culture and identity and in the fiftys and sixtys, people thought it was important for us to come together. Stand up to these pretend is the danger. Then it seemed to come more from the europeans who came to col, nice us now trying to re is active. The United States is active. Its kerry white numbers are important on a cultural level. Having started thinking about this many years ago, we believe that we need to what to be recognized. After all the country, 1000000 people is a community. And then the borders that have been drawn sitting around a table in the lane or somewhere else. There are such countries in africa, it seems that pan african isnt as a concept, is becoming more and more popular. More more people are talking about it. Is this really the case with yes, it is becoming more and more popular, but you have to teach it more because Many Political leaders prefer to be king of the village rather than the route the city. No, no, i have my own the country, i want sovereignty. I want to be in charge. I want, we need to go beyond this kind of thinking and consider the community, the people much larger and much more useful community. So all policies, it all takes time. It takes education, its all slowly evolving through the discussion of these concepts with several most us in the middle here. Yes, its starting to develop and many young people, even Young Africans who grew up in the west, starting to adhere to these concepts, trying to communicate them to others, to explain them. And thats a positive thing of the western media, especially the french media, do not hesitate to denigrate the pen africanist movements, the supporters of sovereignty and de, legitimize it at the 1st opportunity. What do you think are the reasons for this . The reason for mirroring . Yeah, the principle of divide and rule. If the master is a dispatcher, its much easier to control them when the population of the country is one to 2000000 people. But its much easier to manipulate to control these people. Thats the reason why theyre moving in that direction. Its just such a guessing system. Are these attempts at manipulation effective . Do they work . They work because we allow ourselves to be brides. They not effective 100 percent of the time, but you can see that somebody does do not subscribe to the concepts of pan african is and they prefer the concept of everyone will keep their little privileges where they were afraid of losing their privileges and such a large community, it takes a lot of explaining to show the benefits of membership in logic groupings or off. Okay. Yeah, because there are many people in the you want to leave this type of big association. Are there no contradictions here. After all, brooks, it happened not so long ago. Do you k left the you a few years ago . And here we are talking about africa, which wants to unite into one block. There are advantages and disadvantages. Avenue. Yes, in my opinion, everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages, but i believe and many agree with me that the pros of United Nations almost significant with the cones, whether we like it or not, we did not respond to become a 2nd a you. But we respond to become an end states that can make decisions and implement them by making decisions for 200000 people is not the same as making decisions for a much larger union. The majority view is that the outcome of unification will be positive. Were not focusing on break said yes, you cant ignore that example, but theyre all big unions. They work. And you can take an example from the so what can we wish for africa today in the 21st century, so that it can finally follow the path of development and prosperity, which as you say, would be common to everyone. What could we wish for africa in that regard . As i said, we are in a situation today. We need technology, that costs, we have some technology, but we need more to develop certain things. Of the country still need role materials, but they do not have that. We do, and so why not organize an exchange, which is now co, many called a win win cooperation. You get the Raw Materials you need and we get the technology to increase the pace of development so that you dont pilot all the things that you dont need. All the thing