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Transcripts For RT Interview 20240704

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Must be a lot of moving and shaking, going on behind the say. Read more on the. Do you live domestic before we Start Talking about what your father accomplished . Id like to address the accusation that ben bella was a dictator. If you look back through all of these years, was he really dictated by the how these and what the lead and what all that is meant, then bella was by no means of dictates that thats what it other than when he was such and then never dictates in him, he was very democratic for you and she believes very strongly that women should be independent and free. And this was very important to me. My mother, his wife was a well known general is known. So have you be uh huh. Was shots gift hughes . Yeah. Yes, trotsky, yes. She found his asked about the struggle between stalin and trotsky for the main thing was lost in the field. I think we can see bad weather. I had been bella was a dictator and not for the 3 years. He wasnt power. Im not sure how can we call him and dictates a who was trying to build a country thats already how we of course, my father made some political decisions that were not understood by many people at the time. But there was no other choice than that. So which decisions, for example, decisions on whom to form coalitions with the initial term, and with whom it was the countrys best interest to for a long time ties country on the path of destruction after the friendship, bandon dunes. And of course, the imperialist state says, we call them the european states and from student belief algeria could leave without them, came out. Of course they tried to homo junior in nap re possible way to how does your father live out his last days in the fall the live to now jerry and his final days just to child a lot was chairman of the panel of the wise in the african union, he was busy and traveled to lot, trying to establishing terrific and relations, especially with respect to controversial issues, consent and war to result states that was part of his main work. His other job was a leader of Non Governmental Organization related to the un, the assembly of the south. He also house president , beautifully catalog and the shelf National Reconciliation. He was very busy despite his age. Kind of go, yeah. I knew who a model. He was also famous for smiling. Been a whole, but sure. Yes, he was a very small, it pester, you could say smile never left his face, man, very smiley, very sociable. He left las very much. He laughed to read quickly, read 3 books a week. Uh, we hope we will see a love to music. I was wondering if it was a life loan and pass and honey. He spent almost 25 years in prison on the duct save to change him from search instead of 25 years among his enemies might as well tell me as with his own perilous and colonial list enemies and 15 with people there on close to him with his old julian browsers and from the city, and its not so that we will return to the story a little later. I mean, im it, ben. Bella never wrote a memoir. Was that on principle, the fewest categorically gaps that i tried to pass you at him. So yes, i tried to pass, he had him to write down his memories, some condition that they would only be published off to 2050 or 60. Yes maam, but he was categorically against it. When he said he was not the one to chat the cause of history and that he couldnt write about himself. He said it was a matter for academics. A few months after and jerry is declaration of independence. He visited the rock and tried to speak to a large gathering of people cant imagine, but his arabic let him down and he almost cried. The the incident was captured on film. But after that, he began to speak arabic. Perfectly had that to how to be effective. What does it look like . He didnt know airbag and had difficulty learning at you headed out, id be out its i let my bizarre. Oh, but festival is there were no arabs, schools and algeria, and all the schools were french, where harrison was salt and french can. You could only find arrow, they can book. So right this who had started the career on so many years, he attended schools attached to mosque and local self governmental bodies. Uh, yeah. Some of these schools in secondary schools, there was only french and there was no r vacant, so it didnt learn arabic. And so here on to prison. Unfortunately, his spelled the 1st 7 years of imprisonment and sole treaty in solitary confinement. So if, if you have sit in, solitary confinement in guards has to be what he the only book that he was allowed to have was speaker um, but absolutely rather memorized it, which task improved his arabic had to start. We should be grateful to the curriculum that he was allowed to have dispute and cant even when does this improved his knowledge and comprehension of the language and allowed him to memorize the text by heart mean family, half of if we compare and then bell is condition of imprisonment in the french and al jerry and prisons, in the prison of enemies and the prison of his brothers was the attitude towards him about the same job either come down to this question because i wasnt born in a french prison. I mean, for me, i was born then of cheery in prison as i think there are differences and what differences i dont know exactly what the difference is with what i would say they exist, said was he imprisoned, poor under house arrest work. And as he was imprisoned in a cell in the military guards house, 5 young julians under the ship. The soon as you know, jerry, it wasnt a place called the way to pay. Its gonna ask if it was a guard house at the military base. A military base slamming and he was getting assigned in a cell which he could not live some photos. It was only allowed to half hour work. A few years later there was a god who watched him and brought him food. And he this was a range. So that he couldnt talk and would lose his mind. Go mad for cinco law. He didnt know. What did your father tell you . How does he manage to maintain his fantasy as well . I think my father was very religious with the day and he had very strong face and no luck and very strong. And he always had hope he leaves on this hope. All of his lives can ice not as blue up. Even in his photo days, he had to put in amazing patients for the specially strong space. But when i was your father married when he was sent to the french prison, and later to the old julian prison, she had to kill him with his origins. No, no, the wedding story is very interesting. Beautiful. And remind take little men. See is it then . Uh my father got married when he was in prison. Uh well, what was left of 70 is he had the right to date, the new uh. He was visited. Uh, getting in the french prison. Know, and theyll jerry and prisons if he didnt get married to him. He was in the french prison since he got married to him. He was over 50 years old, and he was quite talk you parts with l to your end revolution and he married the revolution, the married, the revolution eh, did betray him like hes a letter, took a hell thats complicated to i dont agree with you. So the revolution put him in jail, just like the french did. Yes, the revolution put him in jail, but they brought this out more to blame for that, then the revolution. It wasnt the revolution that put him in jail. Some of the faces of the revolution. By the way, how was his marriage made possible . It was entitled to one visit to months. How easy is it easily once he was visited by front of hayes and his wife out or the my fathers mother was still alive back. So i mentioned that the she wanted to see how son get married, his men who just sloughed it off. That was my grandfather visited him every 15 days to just do the conditions where just go because the christmas stuff is less than a very nice for you. But that was the situation in the prison. But my friends wife jokingly told my father that she would find him a bride says she was friends with my mother, suffer salami. She was the same as gentlest with a french language held during newspaper revolution. Not because she lean towards trotsky ups to use and didnt like my father, and hes supposed to expire much as why your mother. My mother was almost against him politically, but my friends held her. Im taking you on a date with ben bella. She managed to bring her over to the barracks to put them on the talked for an hour, and there was chemistry. She was allowed to met him 3 times, and after the set time they asked for mary jane and i was getting president obama deanna agreed. And she must be crazy, he said. Let him marry him and live with him in the barracks, then shall left him if 70 yards of sole chicken farm and didnt drive him crazy. No one can be crazier than his wife. The wife will come and live with him for as a 2 days a month, and then he will go mad. But hes, ive stayed with him for 7 years a matter um to is allowed to leave the barracks once a month to visit the family after the marriage. They gave my father a 2nd room, so they have to do a lot for the new my mother to and half of the bathroom. And so the kitchen is one of the rooms was a bedroom. And then when i was born, they gave us the sad room to know which became the living room alone, or she was allowed to have books there. So you are the 1st child . Yes, i was born in the barracks and lived there until was 5 and a half years old. Im 16. I was allowed to walk around the barracks mostly. I was applied to one day a week of the soldiers who were eaten assessment kind of food. I liked and i would go eat with them and it was the audit days of the week. I was with you 8 with soldiers. Yes, but the soldiers queen and you were polite on the days when they served food that you liked. I like such and dishes . Yes, i was rude whenever those were inside. So you were hostile, very hostile. Yes. And they were loose from the prison when that was 5 and a half years old, much every year for a year relief to have the house, the rest and the town of im a sailor model where he was the 1st time when my father finally got to see all the people and im nice people could come and visit him, but he couldnt go outside. Throughout the year and 5000 or 6000 people came to visit him every day. And then he was completely released one year later we left so julia, my father decided not to go back to the country. Did you go to france when she saw fest women to france to create to the of the policy and, and they all had a movement of democracy in algeria to assess the chevy the. He also found it out by the a great magazine that you should have had about him. I know it was the shot. Yes. Out, but deal with the course. And when he was in france, after being released from the brothers prison, he began his international in arabic activities within 11 friends for a long time. We stayed there for no more than 18 months. And then you move to geneva. Yes, we moved to geneva since the old year, and so it puts a lot of pressure on us and they demanded that i sent them. Bella lee from so were left for switzerland, suite of switzerland accepted, and then bella. And then he began his political activities. Lets talk about it, then bellas efforts and whatnot. But what did he do . What efforts did he make . What are the highlights to lift you . How to im visual good to the 50, the low to the less than america in the arabic well said, what a lot of the as there are things that we can talk about, send those that are classified to video. There also things that i dont know about the shared among the things that we can talk about there is i think the fact that your father played a role or wanted to play a role in helping your rock avoid the disastrous more of 1991. When iraq invaded kuwait, but after that, the usa and their allies brought together around half a 1000000 troops to make iraq pull out of kuwait. And the rest is history. If that was the beginning of the end of the really rock. Well, could we talk about that in detail . There is little information, but my folder, it is a known model for model. Some people know about it. My father has visited iraq. Frequently. He had to a certain extent, a very close relationship with set down. His saying to mal law have messy on him. So my father got a cold from roland duma, who was foreign minister on the president funds. So i me to run this if you wanted my father to talk to, so dont say dont do much. He asked him to help the way my father, once you rock can president set on whos st. Promised my father to withdraw from quays. So my father called roll them to mind from the suite my father was in theyd rocks when the talk to wrong. They received a phone call about set them withdrawing, yet still be attacked on the next day. That was in february 1991. Yes, my father was with saddam. Oh my gosh, ive not a when you nothing about him for 2 weeks or it is just lie. Yeah. There was only able to leap through wrong with the help of the iraq his through iran would. I can. Yes, but he wasnt a rock when the last the attack against it, the french cool. The americans hadnt been found that saddam had promised my father to leave rog. No, so the americans have our it would never be ok with that way. I can then, i mean, he can, they would have continued the offensive and, and the 2nd census, whether saddam would pull out of kuwait to not. And i me, somebody, of course, they came with half a 1000000 true to send your arms to the fullest of the what sadly been bella Saddam Hussein, Roland Dumont and major runs, has passed away the truth and took many secrets with them. Maybe the European Party still keeps it secrets alive. Yes. Right there. Are kaiser there archives, documentation and freedom of speech, but trolling. Do you my didnt to play a role in trudys didnt was that he wasnt playing a role against iraq. Yes. So they told the american stuff to sit on was leaving. Most adults is having fun. So you, they in for example, the same day with my father told them im sure. Do you remember what date less . No, i cant remember a no ken. Yeah, i mean, i only recall i was with my mom and we talked to him over the phone to the phone when youve talked to him while he was in baghdad. Yes, he was in bunk, dogs, them. And then communication was gone. 2 days later, the woman that is in 2 days when the talks are wrong, that is 2 days before the attack. You yes, 2 or 3 days a place . Yes. In the run up to the invasion of iraq, that is early in the 3rd millennium. And well see that. Did your father have the strength to play that role . And she told me to have the steps in a row communication with lots of european political sake as she has seen. And itll be in no, could you talk to them if thats on the home . Do you have communication with Saddam Hussein and tell because these are my mothers, these confused. Okay. Did many things, but unfortunately im to the, the efforts were not successful. He also knew many arab leaders didnt he . They are. Thats how thatd be ok. Now to can. Yes, he has great relationships with monica now. See it shouldnt i said it was the when i now the latest but the passed away before him activity again or taking them off the move the full. Yes. They passed away before him, the most arabic countries. He was treated with Great Respect them all levels. Speaking of brotherly relationships with arabic, countries for and how to be. What was ben bellas attitude towards morocco and mother . Were there any problems in their relationship back then . No, no, no, so told us today and then 92 and 6 days there was a slight problem who is has some of the 2nd the my father had the dream of the great that are big small groups. Yeah. New americans are loved brothers, west very close, both gold trillian, historically menu americans and l. Gerry ends have mix finally as well. One country. Yes, he dreamed about the great arabic month for the father came back, but he had great relationship with ken mohammed, the statesman, who, to a large extent, helped belgian or in revolutions to the area. The mall of do not, sir, was silvia unions. Number one, ally in africa. It was also a great liable tyria. Yes algeria to do to have, did you father see him as an ally of the soviet union . Much in the same way she had been to the soviet union and is that correct . Yes, he did visit the ussr and he was very much out of it with him. And he pushed for both economic and military partnership between the 2 countries. Got a lot of kids that i absolutely can do this. Use traumatized economically, socially, politically for them. But hes friendship with russia was not based on having to call them and the main show, but he just truly loved the russians and he had no fear. So your father returned. Tell jerry when political life got revitalized and multi Party Politics were introduced . Correct . Yes. That so did you come back to start a new artist . No, he already had this policy. So he wants to reorganize it from within the yes one where its on sale, jerry. Yeah, hes spotty was a radian major player. So there was some issues with the is with us, and my father felt that the overall well being of the country was more important than the interest of just one policy. So he gave it up, and joan the effort to watch national and reconciliation, them 10 are to with some painful years. Now. Then as if i did, i should. I didnt. Oh yeah. You have some fortunately those 10 years they were bloody telemundo. Not only will the bloods eat their words, savage states and for entire generations, food with the peoples minds for families, for the lovely herds with a 1000000 as you willow, said t as in one decade. What role would you say your father played in the National Reconciliation movement . Imagine one as long as several stripes from this alaska movement to more than this change of islam all had trusted him suppose if his views and the president go to sleep, had reached out to my father. I have conversations with him. See many agreements between the elements and my father were reached and i was very house enough to that president would just like i carried out his plan for National Reconciliation. If you attended the russia, africa summit and st. Pe

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