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Despite the 71 percent of the earths surface being covered by the water u. N. World Water Development report, states one and 4 people in the world. Do i have access to clean Drinking Water . Im scared now. He was in on this edition of 360 view, were going to examine why the u. N. Is painting such a stark picture regarding the water supply in various regions and one scientist vision top efficiently solved for crisis. Lets get started. The from tiny cyan, or bacteria to the largest male in the ocean. Every organism needs water to survive. Im amazing. 2023 a year. Were Technology Allows many to control the daily functions of their house without even being home. Or having a robots to brain surgery, one would think scientists could figure out how to make clean water available to all know at the surface water look simple. The complex and multi faceted levels of the global water crisis continues to create a situation where there was an inadequate supply of safe and clean water, which means the need of a growing population. Now, here are some numbers for you, which i found to be shocking. 54 percent like access to clean water in niger, a country and western africa is desert region. The over on the island nation of pop in new guinea and the pacific ocean. 55 percent actually like basic water services, 71 percent of the 11 in population face a critical water shortages and the water crisis even exist in more developed countries. An estimated 2000000 people do not have access to Drinking Water in the United States with 1000000 of them be in california. And europe, over 16000000 people like access to water capable of drinking and 31000000 need water for basic sanitation uses. So why has this problem not been fixed . Well, its not about the money, even though billions have been spent by governments, all the names of fixing the problems. And yet the problem continues to grow. For was the lack of money is the problem. In fact, it costs less than what you think. The Real Research institute found that securing clean water for the entire globe by 2030 would cost just over one percent of the global. The gdp is only about 0. 29 per person per day from 2015 to 2030. But the economic benefits outweigh the minimum cost was invested instead, patient and water access would yield an average and 6. 80 of returns. Failing to implement better policies for Water Management could lead to 2 to 10 percent gdp regional loss by 2015. So wheres the money going . And what is the real reason behind a solution not to being implemented . And well, luckily there are good people who are trying to honestly find a solution, including our guest today, says m siegel who is an american businessman of brighter and activists. Is the author of the 2015 New York Times of best seller lots. Every water is real solution for a water start world. Heres also a founded or co founded several companies, including the base Stock Company and 6 point partners. Thank you so much for joining us. What exactly classifies a water crisis . You know, the, the real problem is not the official designation of a scientific designation. The problem begins when you start to have a public panic. When people begin to understand that water is giving out where that water is contaminated and theres a 2 separate phenomenon, but theyre linked. One is that water scarcity, the other one is Water Quality. But there are criteria this specific levels of accept acceptable tube and not acceptable contamination that in our Drinking Water. And there are also levels of acceptable drought. But in because drought is hard to predict how far its going to go and how long its going to last a, theres a whole level of drought warning, such as color coded with red and bright red thing. And being the very worst in terms of Drinking Water, if you have contaminated water, unless its a sudden outbreak of some bacteria, which the with comes with a boil alert. Uh that tends to be something that is more systemic and something that um um, depending upon what the code of of behavior calls for either requires for the field trace and or, or not just the case. Maybe we can talk about that some more. How much of this crisis has caused by the environment or by government corruption or net missed and planning . The great thing about what our problems are that they come at you slowly. I mean, im not talking about water main break, but even that ill explain a 2nd doesnt come at you quick. Most water problems coming very slowly and it gives policy. Make cur, is government officials, regulators and others. Lots of time to fix the problem, whether its water scarcity or whether contamination, whether its a water main, that brakes generally its a pipe that you should have known as long in advance needed to be replaced. So i dont like the word ineptitude, because i dont love the idea of finger pointing. But lets just say that it means that government is not adequately incentivized to be focusing on what are the problems that can morph into what a crises when they are not adequately addressed to at least soon enough. Theres no reason why absolutely no reason why globally, we should be thinking of ourselves as being without water. Theres enough water out there. Its a question of innovation, its a question of technology. Its a question of will to move and jump over the problems that we have and fix them as we can with it with existing technologies. Is there a reduction of surface water from the past, or is theres just a result of the growing World Population and the lack of safe and secure Drinking Water. The amount of water in the world today is wed like to say is exactly the same amount of water as the time of the dinosaurs. Its a, its a fixed amount which never changes with change is this, the amount of water that is contaminated either because of the come see water, clean water becoming sea water or contaminated by Human Interaction or by animals contaminating the water through, through their behavior a through eating and biological processes. So the amount of water doesnt change, as is fairly widely known, only a very tiny percentage of the global water though is, is fresh. Water is on salty water, about 3 percent. And about 2 percent of that. 3, about 2 percent of that gross amount is in the polar ice caps. So only one percent of global water is actually available for of, for consumption, for agriculture, for cleaning our homes for flushing our toilets and so forth. Now as populations rise, obviously they need more food and as, as people become more affluent, they change their diets and the amount of food that they need to eat or want to eat tends to be ever more water. Consumptive. So population definitely has an impact on water supply. Economic development and Economic Prosperity definitely has an effect on water supply. Contamination has an effect on water supply, but the biggest user of water by far is agriculture at 70 to 95 percent in every country. And therefore, by getting your handle on how you use your water for agriculture, is how youre going to positively absolutely unquestionably, give yourself. But theres going to be happy and good. What are future or a, or a stress to whatever future Climate Change while supplying an effect on this, of course, but not to the degree that we cant overcome it through the use of smart technology. Is there a universal answer to the water crisis for every country, or does this need to be more specialized based on the region . More importantly, who should be in charge of planning and implementing the plan . Could you make it me, could i be in charge of the entire world . I would like to do that. But if its not going to be me, there are International Bodies through the u. N. There are bilateral treaties between countries that share waterways. There are Multi Lateral treaties with multiple countries or multiple states that share waterways. Like, for example, in the us, the Colorado River shared by 7 states as well as the country of mexico and each of them has their own interest. So theres a, the, in the more advanced or more economically advanced countries, there tends to be better uh, better systems in place for the sharing of water. But because of Climate Change, theres been a terrible the series of decisions made unilateral decisions made by some countries to take advantage of waters at the source that it will have very dire impact on, on the countries of communities down river. So 1st ill do internationally, then ill talk about the us a little bit. But for example, if china is going to be damning the in this river, which they have done that is going to have a profound and very negative impact on pakistans. What are future if turkey is going to be damning the tigris and euphrates, rivers, famous rivers. Its gonna have a very, very bad outcome for the people of iraq. Uh, for the people of iran, also, people of syria. And these are countries that are really are what are stressed out because of population growth because of terrible mismanagement of what resources back to your government and aptitude, comment for other reasons. So be the decision by individual st. Oh, we need more water and were going to take it for ourselves. Opens the door to all kinds of terrible outcomes down downstream down river. Now in the us, the Colorado River has, is been the source of a very long term, a 101 year old. So a set of rules called the Colorado River compact, which governs how and how that water should be used. But, but likewise, there, you know, a states are looking at for their citizens. Mexico was looking at the rich people, and it leads to all kinds of conflict that can and should be avoided by intelligent planning. Ill say just one more thing. The country of egypt has long made very robust use of the nile river. Well you see. Busy here which is up stream of, of egypt on the nile, has made a decision start damning denial for its own use for its own water, for its agriculture and for electro, a hydro electricity. Now thats going to have a very deep and profound impact on each trips future with a population about a 110000000. 00 and growing very quickly. Lot of poverty, very deep amounts of agricultural use. About 95 percent of the fresh water there is use for agriculture. I predict very bad outcomes if the countries along the nile river dont make a decision to start being smarter about how they use their water for agriculture. But if they do that, if theyre able to do that, and if you can have, whether its un or the African Union or some other bodies helped mediate that. What are use as you can have that the you can have a good outcome. If you dont, youre gonna have a very bad outcome. Thank you. Says please take a route because after the break, were going to examine the various Water Quality challenges to the individual regions around the world. And you might be surprised who the biggest challenge or has nothing to do with science the, the, the audience that they are expertise very harshly against these. And then they, they also have a huge federal campaign because they have a cottage both. Lets say they want to gain as you money, me least. So if i is for them they need to cite on and the big one is america. The ok. Welcome back. Were going to continue our discussion about the challenge to provide Drinking Water around the world with a set and a single step as an american, businessman, rider and active as he is the author of the 2015 New York Times best seller, that every water is real solution for a water star world. Hes also founded or co founded, several Companies Including the bean stock group and 6 point partners. And so that you have pointed out how one of the smallest countries and one of the driest regions in the world is among those which have the best developed policies and techniques. Explain why you feel this way about what is real is doing. Well, 1st of all, its totally feasible. I wrote a book about this topic. Its called left therapy. Water is relative solution for water. Stop the world in the book is actually its out a few years now, but its still very much in print. Its now out in 24 languages and spent a best seller in the us and in many countries around the world because people are concerned about what are scarcity about that. And they are simultaneously amazed by what is real has done to overcome that. What a scarcity is realism, the driest region of the world, israel has the Fastest Growing rate of population over the past 75 years since israel was founded as a state of any country in the world. This was the Fastest Growing population. After a single port and south korea, it is the 3rd, it is after those 2, it is the Fastest Growing economy in the world. And israel has suffered terribly from Climate Change, losing about 25. 00 or so percent of its average annual rainfall. And yet, despite all of that, despite going from about 800000 people to about 9400000 people in that time period is released today. Enjoy robust amounts of water was if theyre living in new york or london, theres an is all the water people need because people are cast with the water and israel. So water abundant that they provide water every single day for the people of gaza. Even when the rockets are flying out of gaza, israels pumping water into gaza, about 60 percent of the household. What are use in the west bank comes from is really sources in israel, also exports water to the kingdom of jordan. So how do they do all that . They did it by close of thinking about what are issues for a long time, developing what are revering culture, having smart, very smart governance, a political governments getting politics out of out of the application of how use water using market forces, charging the real cost of water and copious, enormous amounts of technology permeating every part of the is really water. So. Busy every which is why every drop is utilized efficiently and frequently multiple times. If, if so in that regard, not every country is like israel. Israel has a long sea coast so they can do sell the selling nation. But not every country is like is real, but with a rich or poor, with a land locked or adjacent to waterways. Every country can learn from israel in terms of its focus on water. And what it does that i hasten to add by the way, that thousands and thousands of what are officials, government officials, Corporate Executives and others come to israel every year to learn what israel has done in water. So that they can take that message back to their countries or companies, or communities, or regions or societies and utilize some of these really methodology and in what they are doing themselves. Its, its really quite a extraordinary story of how this small country, which is often times, believe your estimate Security Point of view was able to create this robust what our society. Okay, so let us know east where there is a major issue regarding water contamination. Like what is happening in india, where around 200000 inhabitants in the country reported to have poor Water Quality. So look Serious Health rest of the population. Now whats interesting is this is nothing new, its not a new problem in india. Therefore, what our leaders doing so that they can find a solution. What more should they be doing . Yeah, the, the problem is pricing. In india, they basically give away the water. They tried in a few, rubies, a few pennies for large amounts of water. And the costs of the fact that they are giving away the water. Theres no sense of conservation on the one hand. And also theres no money available to to fix the water system. So the system leaks uh greatly you lose sometimes with a 60 or 65 percent of the water coursing through the system as low as the leaks, which is crazy, but through not always the case, but almost universally over 30 percent of the water is less the leaks, and simultaneously, the water supply is contaminated because of the course of a lack of regulation that protects from dumping into those rivers. You made reference to dumping of chemicals from factories dumping of animal waste and so forth. And that creates a crisis and many, many, many communities, by the way, in the us. I wrote a book about another book about this or a book called troubles water. Whats wrong with what we drank and troubles water . Whats wrong with what we drink . I highlight even in the United States that we are not exactly perfect in terms of providing Water Quality where we can and you may think, oh, which is limited to flint, michigan, but thats not true. We have contaminated what are Different Levels of contamination . Very, very, very widely throughout the United States, except that the standards that say this is what youre allowed to be contaminated up to this level. And people are Drinking Water or thinking its healthy when its legally, its legal, but its not necessarily safe. And theres a big difference with Drinking Water, whether its legal, water, or safe water. Now, there are times as in india, s u. S, where it exceeds the legal standard. And its actually a health hazard. But, but that comes down to whether or not there is the will and the wallet to fix the what are problems when you have other problems that you prioritize of water. Overtime, youre going to have a very bad water outcome. Since were looking at various regions around the globe, i want to ask you about south america. In brazil is another country i was astonished to read about. The country is home to the mighty amazon river and tropical landscapes. And yet some 30000000 people just under 15 percent of the population, all like access to reliable and safe Drinking Water. Again, what is going on in brazil and what is the solution . Yeah, so its not surprising if you look at a map. And the reason i say that is because where there are great quantities of fresh water like the amazon or hudson and they up in canada, theyre actually very few people. So where you can match the amount of water with Large Population center, say like Lake Michigan or chicago or milwaukee are, are, are right on the shore line. Then you have a good match between fresh water supply and population. But frequently what you have is you have population that has developed in areas where its border, adequate for the 1st development, and then populations keep growing and you dont have adequate water for that. And so water scarcity becomes ever more a problem. Now, ive been to preserve, ive lectured in purcell of the problem bad brazil also is that you have these slum costs are val as yeah, the slum areas that can easily have their water problems fixed. Its, its in the slum areas where you have these great amounts of contaminated water that people are drinking. Now, what you should be doing, what they could be doing, it should be doing is capturing all the sewage of their community. And then using existing technology, not very fancy, not very Sophisticated Technology treating it to an ultra high pure level and returning it is called potable reuse is reusable of Drinking Water. Or if thats too gross for people were using the water for local agriculture, either of those works fine. In israel, they dont do direct potable reuse. They treat all the water that they, by far the greatest capture of sewage in the world, isnt israel. And they treat about 85 percent of the National Sewage and that they use it exclusively for agriculture in some parts of california and arizona. They capture the water, treat it, and reuse it for Drinking Water. Either those are, are adequate and fine. Its mostly a psychological issue or not a health issue, but when you are just going to leave things to chance and, and not supply water to your communities, youre going to end up with both contaminated water and with inadequate amounts of water. I hasten, did one more thing in, in about quotes, the last century in california and the south west decisions were made to divert waterways so that theyll be adequate amounts of water for growing communities in the south west in california. So thats a big and disruptive project. Its expensive that every country can afford that. But every country can afford to take their sewage and treat it and reuse it. And thats something that i strong advocate for. And if youre between the 2, where you have some money but not portions of money, you also can choose to be selling 8. 00 water if youre nearby an ocean or see you can do the same thing there and get plenty of high quality, very, very safe Drinking Water for your populations. Finally, north africa. Now this is right in the backyard israel, which we just spoke about. The region is remarkably arid and less reliable. Fresh water resources. About 90 percent of children in this region actually live in areas. Considered water stress. What can be done here, practically speaking, when the problem seems so universal . Is this an actual emergency . Well, there are certainly some parts of north africa that are in dire stress. There is certainly parts of other countries that are in dire stress as well right now. We still have a little bit of time, not a lot. And the, and the choices there are either either engineering programs to divert existing waterways that are, that are, that are adequate to provide water like denial for sudan and for egypt. And there are also of north africa, of course is a bunch of the mediterranean sea. So, and most of the large cities of north africa that whether its a libya or algeria or morocco, news. Yeah. Most of them are close enough to the mediterranean, that they could be the salivating water and making use of it that way. All of them are producing, of course, sewage on a daily basis. They could be capturing that water and treating it. So when people have bad, what are outcomes . And sometimes its because of Climate Change, sometimes because of population growth. But almost always, its because of an adequate attention to detail, far enough in advance to start thinking about how you can fix your water for yourself and possibly if your neighbors is real. But you just mentioned is, is not a miracle because miracles come from god. I suppose, but its something of a phenomenon because of the fact that so many people in the country for so long over a 100 years now having to thinking about what are, have been spending larger amounts of their, of their Government Resources around water. And so for the, id like to share a short story if im a, which is that when my book let there be water, came out. In hebrew i came for the publishing launch there. And much to my delight, i was invited to come to the Prime Ministers Office to sit with the Prime Minister. Now i already knew from my research that the 1st Prime Minister of israel, whose diaries i read, is doing Something Like Historical Research for let the book let there be water. Was thought about what on a daily basis. Because his diary was just filled. The comments about what are projects and what are worries and so forth. And likewise, the 3rd Prime Minister of israel, maybe escal, had been the head of the national. What are authority . And he obviously was deeply concerned about what are issues, but why it was not expecting was some 70 years after the founding of the state to have the, the current Prime Minister, who is benjamin at the who was still the Prime Minister, would be so sophisticated about what are issues i come to his office . I started the a quick photo op hello. Good bye. And indeed he sat me down. We spoke for 45 minutes. And a lot of that time with him talking about his insights into what israel was doing and what are and what they can do. More of now, ive traveled all over the world and i must say, ive never had an experience like that with another head of state. Even when i testified before it agriculture and environmental committees, its at the parliaments and legislatures around the world. Ive not seen the same level of sophistication, and its the cost of that attention to the issue. It is real is where it is and if we get more focus on what are issues. More people thinking about it, more University Courses about it, or Public Officials dealing with it. More media doing this as you are doing today, then youre going to have a very different outcome thatll work future we can have. We can have a very good, what are future. Well just focus on the issue. Well, thank you. It says m c. Go for all of the work you are doing to help fix this problem around the world. Now in order to address the complex and urgent and global water crisis, there needs to be a combination of policy changes, technological advances, and most importantly, a willing government body on the local, national. And of course, global levels all working together. It is crucial. Everyone works to ensure an equitable and Sustainable Water future for everyone in the present. Or also, no one is guaranteed at clean water. In the future. Im scared of using this has been your 360 view of the news affecting you. Thanks for watching the on the job rally her my little story. Okay. The model girl that i got you. No problem. Seeing that on the out of the things, arguments he, i suddenly drive, i showed my brother through he was sudden to help people for a lo so now i never looked at searches as being saved. Well i guess i lost my list. Thats the outcome of your travel police. Itd be gang in chicago is what i can give you a photo of that police. You lose your life as another crime. Same. Another one could have been a doctor or nurse could have been the next president. We cant keep losing people out here. The, this is really poll says its like the rough uh check points of the egyptian border blocking the only roots for god, the local to leave god, yes, said the via text that israel will not go unpunished. Mazda service will have nowhere to clean the straight. We will get to them wherever they are the disturbing images from gauze, or why the palestinian reg presence as the health care system, as collapse. After is really a tax on medical facilities. We stand with israel, we stand with is us president , but just strong support to israel again