That particular speech that went viral with several multiple millions of people watching it, was that i dont agree with the notion that financial reparations. I went on. So because i said that any amount of credible reparations would not be payable. I also feel and have been advocating passionately that originally would do well to teach and polish canadian history and schools. So you dont have a lot of a spectacle of polls as recently as the last couple of years showing the majority of british people claiming to be proud of the empire. And one thing it back, which was such an also thing, it was almost like, can you imagine a situation where the germans would want the nazi regime back . And yet thats what some people have written out of well for the notes. Because the bodies dont teach, which was about, couldnt it as well dont teach college. And i told that history classes and schools that can you stand to lose 1200000000. 00 annually. 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Ill be back with much more news in less than 30 minutes. So by the id like to start off and jumping straight in with indias place in the well as right now. Now, given into is power into, into your political wise that were seeing what you expect from the country and the upcoming. Yes. Because again, theres been a force to reckon with for some time now, the economy has, was india in a very healthy place over the last generation going back to the liberalization of 1991. And since that india has been a steady, whereas seen a steady group pass on, irrespective of whos been in part. And weve seen that continuing over 3 decades now. And as a result in this is see not just as an emerging paul, but as apollo that in many ways as a much, its already the was 3rd largest economy in purchasing power parity terms is likely to become the was 3rd largest in actual real dollar terms within the next 2. Yeah. So this is a country thats on the right track by and large economically. And as a result, given its have to, well, its a most populous country in the world, even more populous than china today its, its likely that countries on all sides of the jo, politically divide, were taking this seriously. That i think is a given whoever wins these electrons. Having said that, its also important that in depths of plays a constructive and responsible role in the World Community right now in that has been careful to maintain relationships on both sides of every device and discussion and ukraine, israel and the palestinians with the americans and the chinese and so on. But there are some inescapable challenges in india con, deny it has a very tense border with china. It continues to have on dissolved difficulties of boxes. Some of these are some of the, put a new problems of Indian Foreign policy, and they remain still sadly unresolved, and those will have to be checked on the global stage. Finally, id say that the fact that in the such an influential it sets on everything from cyberspace to august space makes it potentially a huge leads a significant considers, a global government. And that too makes india a false direct. And were talking about state in days. Thank you, and thats a lot left to us. They all view on the way in the or russian relationship relations between the 2 have been developing so far. How important do you think this partnership is for india, which is usually important about the ship . It has been for a very long time in the when i busted visit mid to the, the, the soviet union and the old days and russia theyre off to, has been amongst and is a most reliable constant. Instead, foster friends in recent years and has been diversifying its sources of military equipment, which were heavily reliant on russia for many decades as recently as about 10 years ago. Oh, i would say theres a more of them that maybe about 15 years ago. Russia, accountants, 85 percent of all of them does defense inputs of today thats gone down to more like 40 percent. I would say the of course, a lot of spare parts and so on for what presented are important to continue to come in as well. As india has diversified its sources. But despite the, as i think the friendship remains very significant, we have thought for a long time, enjoyed uh, should we say uh close a Mutual Understanding on a number of issues. We have called for peace and view, create and conflict time, but India Remains a voice for peace and most noble conflicts. So i would, i would probably leave it to that at this point of defense. As a major preoccupation of joe gilbert, your politics remains effect ups, but there are no major issues, dividing us. And as you know of recent, in recent years, it has become of a major consumer of russian oil and gas products. And this has also been a very important occurred for russia at a time of international sections. So theres some, uh, chevy se, mutual a win win on both countries. Bob and i wasnt, stuff werent there when it comes to dealing with the west, especially when it has this relationship with russia. Well, the western countries have shown some understanding. I would say that india has its own Foreign Policy and is not, has always been historically allergic to freezing into any particular blog, a or a line specially. India likes to have partners rather than allies. And thats again being the case. Going back to the days of the Non Aligned Movement on the funding, there are lots as Prime Minister. And this continued, even in the very different government, a Prime Minister movies in the sense that he has, he has stayed friendly for rough shots, even while being somewhere closer to the west. The previous in didnt, governments may have been the most important fit shuts off in this position on the russia, ukraine conflict because hes induced, kept his lines of communication open to both sides of for foreign minister. Love has been to india a couple of times in the last year. He has in some offices of willing to listen to what he has to say. And i think thats something thats valuable to to the russians. As far as india is concerned, india relishes being able to talk from a position of Mutual Respect with both with both the russians and the western countries. And indeed with the great, so i would leave it there, the support you said that you say in this future, a staying friends with all countries, with every body across the board. Im just wondering where are the red lines for india because weve been covering this story recently about said canada and also a support. So 6 that for to do think this will play a large role in new delhi dealings with the west. The way certainly playing an odd size over to now relations with canada. It hasnt yet affected our relations any other wisdom country. Because things havent gone quite as far as they have in canada, where the government is seen by many new denny as being complicit in. Encouraging a Movement Based in canada that are openly lovely, secessionist, an extremist, and that dialogue, but had been directly associated with acts of murder and mayhem in india, including the bombing of an ad in the jet line in 1985 that took nearly 400 lives so its not just the questions of supposing inflammatory rhetoric, which is the way the canadians prefer to see it for us uh the, the, the extremist elements in kind of that have cost in getting lives. And therefore, we have not been particularly sympathetic to canada as indulgent and solve those elements on this or it in the future of india. It does indeed look very dried, however, synonymous still continues. A catholic wise indeed is a developing country, while others see it as a highly developed nation, though in a long state of declare decay, as you was said yourself. What did you mean by that . Its a depiction of india. Uh, i mean that point of view goes back to the late 19 ac is i would say that the cat has since been considerably repeated. And anyone visiting india today would be impressed by the its the widespread use us off of computers and digital technology. And even your, your, because the sellers with their carts on the screen would have a q r code on display so you can pay them by mobile. Okay. Its a country. Theyre rushing impatiently to the 21st century. I said, why do you think ill have somebody, lets still continue to cold into a developing country where it is you see . Because the fact is that in this has People Living in conditions still of acute poverty and despair efforts are being made. Of course, to pull them out to which i think both the president government and the speed assesses have claimed some success in actually pulling large numbers of indians out of poverty. But theres still a lot of people who live bad either side of the funeral pipes until every indian has, has the guaranteed assurance of decent lives and 3 square meals a day and move over their heads as well as access to Decent Health care. And the prospect of meaningful work. Its difficult to just blindly claim we have developed countries. Even Prime Minister, mr. Moseley, who is not particularly known for tempering is rhetoric has set the go all in the coming and developed countries 4204700000 of us, read about independence and thats 223 as a way. So i think even she didnt, probably minister will accept that. Its too early to call us to develop the country. Weve got to wait 7 to get someone out here, especially vocal about how portez colonial will that affected india. Would you say that that effect is still ongoing . Id love to know. To what extent do think the colonial rule handed the developments of india . Well it every conceivable respect, but its a bit its, its, i think its a bit lame today. 75 years makes sense. To blame is, i wrote a work of history. I bought a bought today. I think we have to take responsibility for our own problems. The british took one of the richest economies in the world, one of the most prosperous countries in the world, and systematically pillage, bit new to this, and transformed it into a post to try and for 3rd world poverty and dispense with one of the newest life expectancies on the planets and the highest rates of poverty of the planets when they left. So there is nothing good that one can say for 200, you as a british colonialist of the same time that was 75. Yeah. 77 years ago now that made it left and i think wed have to stand up and say, wed take responsibility for taking off future in our own hands and making it work. Obviously, many of the passions left behind by the boss is still in deal with it. So im the administrator of framework or land holding patterns, all population issues. But the fact still remains that we now are responsible, and we will take responsibility is also shaping our own dest. You bought the pass code for the prisoners government to pay reparations to its former colonies. Is that something that you still think should be done and how to move like the benefit india now is that or even a some race enough that ive been slightly misrepresented on that . What i said in that particular speech that went viral with several multiple millions of people watching it, was that i dont agree with the notion that financial reparations. I went on. So because i said that any amount of credible reparations would not be payables. Indeed, an economist has said, thats the actual monetary value of business exploitation of in this can only be estimated at 45 trillion boats. And since the person has a, a bug cap that has a total gdp of 5 trillion, i think 45. 00 trillion is impossible to pay. So any credible setup would not be payable. And any payable ticket would not be credible because whatever, uh, brittany can pay in the end. Reparations would pale by comparison. For the box damage done the lives on necessarily last, we have the, the simplex procreation and expectation of in the library is put in your groups. That doesnt mean the accounts pay reparations to smaller calling these worthy songs wouldnt be more affordable and more realistic. And im not presuming to speak for barbados. So diana, ill see, and i live in saying that they dont meet reparations. That it may well do the funding the, i think the, the moral and told him by the but it is just far more important. The british of never apologized but 200 years of colonialism and i think its high time they did. So its a distance, a Good Opportunity for them to do so. But since unity of the egregious, im tragic jelly, im all about messic up. But when thats and tina retain, the british Prime Minister was not able to go beyond that expression of redirect, which most people would consider the mild. And we also feel that i also feel and have been advocating passionately that originally would do well to teach and polish canadian history and schools. So you dont have a lot of the spectacle of poles as recently as the last couple of he is showing the majority of what it is people claiming to be proud of the empire and one thing a back which or something. I also think it was almost like, can you imagine a situation where the germans would want the nazi regime back . And yet thats what some people have written out well for the notes. Because the british dont teach the truth about, couldnt it as well dont teach college. And i told the history classes and schools and that should be rectified. And the other thing i suggested is, with that capital london being a, was the capital of museums. They should think seriously of constructing a Serious Museum of colonialism that would show visits as from around england and around the world. What they did to Foreign Countries and how they gained from is as well as what damage they did to others. That could be a useful history lessons just as german students today are bused to the concentration camps. A museum of colonialism in london. What do i think that was also good . Those are far more important than monetary reparations. But starting off with a simple, sorry, it would take us a long way and data. I couldnt agree more. Now in the ninetys he said as a special you and assistance, a Peace Keeping operations. Could you give us an idea of what that experience was like especially, and then went up to the cost of a war of 99 . Well i, i worked for a long time ago, not terribly long, had a change in 9 year career. The united submissions, during which time i spent a very meaningful of 70 students in the United Nations peacekeeping department, during which i was the team leader for the former yugoslavia. So i was, the person was up writing the reports of the secretary general, attending the Security Council meetings, visiting uber savvy a more times than is entirely wise and safe, a boxing through mine fields of and facing stipends, and all that fun. Why did the same time having to of having to do the diplomacy in new york with the countries, particularly the members of the Security Council of the troops contributing countries on peacekeeping operations. By the time cost of what happened, i had left me sleeping to serve in the office. The 2nd general coffee under which is where i was when the bombing of the initial bombing of 99. It could and also was more on us forcibly separated from sub yes, that was a different experience. I was mostly in the peacekeeping department, but indeed, its fair to say that the peacekeeping did buffington 10 bucks to do with that. It was of a nature operations that love resulted in that particular situation, but i was involved from the beginning of the civil war, 91. 00. Once the e u monitors pulls out in the u. N. Came in and in fact i was the person who led the 1st Exploratory Mission for the us. And along with a finished cults, we travel through the wall fields and the was owns between the subs and the trots in october 1991. And we were dubious about the feasibility of peacekeeping at the time. But the world had already decided this was going to be the u. Ns talk potatoes. And so the report for you wrote to the Security Council, wherever you said that there wasnt really an easy, viable peacekeeping concept to be suggested. Something that the policies put agreed upon was the one that was, was chosen, and then subsequently as a whole, washington erupt in bosnia and so on and spread throughout the former yugoslavia. I remained the person in the Un Peacekeeping department dealing with these problems with our all of a small team about his costs of the rather large operation on the ground that grew as it. Busy from a handful of observers when i 1st got involved to Something Like 88000. So just by the time i left to the end of 96. 00, on the election of kofi island to be sector gen