Screen as we we will keep them coming on the screen as we progress. In whats starting to feel like a routine as we have done for the last week at this time lets go live to the State Department in washington. We are going to talk about something that a group of colleagues have put together, it is a draft dissent memo. We will come back to that phrase. It is an opposition to president Donald TrumpsExecutive Order on refugees. This is a draft online. It points out among other things that despite the Executive Orders focus on them, a vanishingly small number of Terror Attacks on us soil have been committed by foreign nationals who recently entered the United States on an immigrant or Non Immigrant visa. Barbara plett, State Department. Explained the format this memo is taking. This is something called a Descent Cable and it is part of a well established channel for disagreement within the State Department called the dissent channel. If an employee or a Foreign OfficeService Officer disagrees he can register a complaint or his or her opinion through this avenue with top officials at the State Department including the Secretary Of State and that is what the format of state and that is what the format of this memo is. They are not that unusual but what would be unusual about this is the number of people who have signed. We are told that hundreds of people have added their signature to this memo so that is true that would be unprecedented and the content is, as you suggested, criticising the Immigration Order of mrtrump, saying it criticising the Immigration Order of mr trump, saying it would not achieve its aims of making america safe, that it would in fact be counter productive, but it would increase anti american as in, that it sour relations with the muslim majority nations that have been singled out in many parts of the muslim world. It goes beyond that, raises the moral point. They say, this band stands in opposition to the Core American Constitutional Ban Values that we as federal employees took an oath to uphold. They go on took an oath to uphold. They go on to say they need to protect equality and work against discrimination on the basis of race and national identity. It is a very strong memo and if it is true that so many people have been willing to sign it it isa people have been willing to sign it it is a feeling widely felt at the State Department. Stay with us, barbara. The White House Press secretary, sean spicer, was asked about this memo. Heres his response. I think ithink any i think any Government Official or anyone who doesnt understand the president s goal in this and what this actually was. This has been blown way out of proportion and exaggerated. In the 24 hour period 325,000 people from other countries flew in through our airports, and we are talking about 109 people from seven countries the Obama Administration identified and these bureaucrats have a problem with it . They should either get through the get with a programme or they should go. This is about the safety of america and the reason the majority of americans agree with the president is they understand that it is number one priority. That was sean spicer. It doesnt look like hes losing much sleep over this memo. What is interesting is his reaction saying that if they dont want to get with the programme then they can go. Late in the Press Conference he said if they dont agree with the agenda, which he described as the safety of america, they should not be in those posts which is a different approach than other administrations have ta ken different approach than other administrations have taken to this kind of protest. This Dissent Cable supposed to allow state Department Officials to criticise policy without fear of reprisals. They may now be worried about theirjobs and may rethink whether they should state these things publicly. Its quite an unusual kind of response to this form of diplomatic document. Just one more thing, a question that has come in from a viewer on the Bbc News Channel in the uk, a question about the State Department. Is that what has indicated how it will approach japan and other asian allies . We approach japan and other asian allies . We have approach japan and other asian allies . We have any guidance on that . We dont have much guidance from the State Department yet because the Secretary Of State has not been confirmed. Your question is right, the white house has been dealing with that and most of that we got during statements that mr trump made before he was elected in which he suggested that japan and south korea, though stew strong allies of the United States were not paying enough for the defence and he would reconsider the arrangements the us has with them. Having said that the head of the defence department, is going on his first foreign trip shortly and going to go to Japan Foreign trip shortly and going to go tojapan and foreign trip shortly and going to go to japan and south korea that the us stands by them firmly. He has a strong firm, traditional us view of these alliances and mr trump has said several times he defers to general madness on various issues so its possible they might be Setting Policy in this area, or driving policy in this area, or driving policy in this area, or driving policy in this area rather than mr trumps statements so far. Generaljames mattis. Trumps statements so far. General james mattislj trumps statements so far. Generaljames mattis. I suspect we might be speaking again at the same time tomorrow. Now, let me show you the seven countries that have been affected by the Travel Restrictions announced by donald trump. Libya, sudan, somalia, yemen, iran, iraq and syria. Next on outside source we will get some reaction from some of these places, for instance the Iranian Foreign minister says the muslim ban will be recorded in history as a great gift to extremists and to their supporters. Ican extremists and to their supporters. I can also show you this, its any Chris Langridge iraqi news website saying the global backlash grows against trumps Immigration Order. I turned to bbc persian and another regular on outside source for more reaction. This decision has created a lot of controversies and created a lack of clarity from people. We have seen pictures of people coming back from the United States after being deported. One interesting point is the reaction of the christians in the reaction of the christians in the region and they were asking President Trump to come and help them stay in their country instead of welcoming them as refugees. We have seen so of welcoming them as refugees. We have seen so many of welcoming them as refugees. We have seen so many articles in newspapers written by priests as well in the region, syrian priests and lebanese priests, saying we dont want this decision and this will cause a lot of harm for us because it will push many people, many muslim people from the centre to the extreme, or put them in a very difficult situation unable to a nswer very difficult situation unable to answer questions. It was a big outrage in the region regarding this decision, especially that a few months ago it was a completely different direction. The Us Administration was criticising saudi arabia and some other gulf countries and now they have shifted in a totally different direction. Today the Iraqi Parliament was discussing and debating this and they issued a bill asking for reciprocity. But this was not on social media, because what are you going to do with the us soldiers fighting and supporting you as a government . Are you going to ask them to leave . There is a lot of questions and lack of clarity regarding this decision in the region. What about iran . The official reaction, the statement from the Foreign Ministry today and also the Vice President , said the travel ban is immoral and contrary to human rights and the biggest reaction came yesterday from the president himself who said it is not time to build walls. If you look at state run time to build walls. If you look at state run tv you time to build walls. If you look at state run tv you would not get a sense of National Outrage but if you look at the press and social media iranians are up in arms over this. Iranians are up in arms over this. Iran hasa iranians are up in arms over this. Iran has a lot of interests in syria, iraq is busy directly affected by the Islamic State group. Is the last few days change how this coalition of countries takes on is . I dont think it has changed so far because the iranians havent officially reacted to President Trumps victory to begin with. The iranian Supreme Leader has not said anything. Even though they are upset about the travel ban and it shows some animosity on the part of the Us Government they are still cautious and maybe optimistic that unpredictably President Trump might make a positive gesture to iran so they are holding their cards and hoping for the best. They are holding their cards and hoping forthe best. In they are holding their cards and hoping for the best. In their calculus this travel ban has not changed the overall prospects of what can be possible with iran and the us in terms of fighting isis in syria. These countries are still in the reaction mood. They cant believe that this is going to stay in the coming weeks because it doesnt work. Iraq is supporting the government fighting Islamic State and america is fighting Islamic State command the same in syria as well so there are lots of complications in the region that could be affected by such a decision. The government and the people are still in denial, believing this is something that is going to change. The unpredictability of trump means they hope he might flash a card that might change the whole equation. Just before i let you go, is this a big story . If i turned on the iranian or Iraqi National news, is it right at the top . Not a National News but in social media that is the only thing youll find. Everywhere, it is there, debates and discussion and stories about people who were deported from the us, or banned from boarding on us flights. Thank you to both of them. They were talking about iraq and iran primarily. In a few minutes on outside source we will turn to the situation in beirut and how the temporary ban affects some refugees who live there. More news now from the uk. Two former bankers from Halifax Bank Of Scotland or hbos have been found guilty of bribery and fraud along with four associates. During the trial Southwark Crown court we heard how one of the former bankers Lynden Scourfield was bribed with cash and luxuries. As our Business Correspondent andy verity reports several Small Businesses were driven to the wall as a result of this massive fraud. Chauffeur driven bentleys at no charge. Ferraris, trips to vegas and brown envelopes stuffed with cash gratis. Just a few of the perks of being a Corrupt Bank Manager at hbos or one of those bribing him and all paid for by the bank and its Business Customers. This businessman, Michael Bancroft, worked with a firm that promised to help turn businesses around. Together with a man who ran the consultancy david mills, seen here in the centre, was bribing bank manager Lyndon Scourfield on the right with cash, holidays and prostitutes. In exchange for the bribes scourfield would insist the banks Business Customers used david millss firm, quayside corporate services. David mills and his associates use them for their own purposes to enrich themselves, including charging exorbitant consultancy fees to these companies, to these distressed companies, financially distressed companies, which they were expected to pay and basically run the companies down into the ground. At Southwark Crown court today david mills, michael ba ncroft court today david mills, Michael Bancroft and three others were found guilty ten years after committing these crimes. The most extraordinary thing about the fraud was it was discovered not by the bank or the police but by a middle aged couple fighting to keep their home. As Business Customers of the bank they told everything they had found out, but the banks response was to try repeatedly to evict them. Instead of protecting and supporting the victims of this scam they would persecute them. They would blame the customers and that is what they have done for ten years and they have stuck to this story. I realised the most shocking thing for me of being in court is i realised we have been through ten years of hell and so have lots of other victims. Hbos is now owned by Lloyds Banking group which said today it acknowledged the fraud impacted people beyond the bank, but a decade on from the crimes the bank still hasnt acknowledged any Corporate Responsibility for what happened, or offered to compensate the victims. Andy verity, bbc news. This is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. Donald trump has been defending his immigration ban, as criticism continues from around the world. Not long ago, and many of you have sent me messages during the programme, i got this from jeffrey watching on the Bbc News Channel saying, nothing on steve bannon, meaning why are you not talking about steve bannon . And we are going to do that now. Steve bannon is Donald TrumpsChief Strategist and has been appointed to the us national council. This is very significant. The move expands mr bannons influence and ability to shape us defence policy. The move has caused a lot of controversy. Bernie sanders tweeted. sensanders. We need experienced people who will protect our country on the nsc, not an extreme right wing political operative. White House Press Secretary sean spicer defended the appointment. He said bannon was a former Naval Officer. Hes got a tremendous understanding of the world and the geopolitical landscape that we have now. Lets talk to the bbcs Laura Trevelya n lets talk to the bbcs Laura Trevelyan who is live from washington, dc. Hi, first of all explain the nsc and what it does and how much influence steve bannon will be able to exert over it . The National Security council is the key Advisory Body for the president of the United States on what it sounds like, security in americas place in the world. Its a hugely important body. The reason there has been such an outcry about steve bannon being on it, and hes been appointed to something called the Principals Committee of the nsc, so he has been elevated to a big role. One of the things that caused a stink was this memo President Trump wrote said the director of National Intelligence and the joint chiefs director of National Intelligence and thejoint chiefs of staff no longer needed to only when things pertain to their responsibilities, which is weird, intelligence and military, why would you elevate a Chief Strategist and then save the quys Chief Strategist and then save the guysin Chief Strategist and then save the guys in charge of intelligence and the military only need to come when there are things pertaining to the issues . A former obama National Security adviser called a stone c