maybe even arming them? >> there's no question that the sunni tribal organizations need to be able to defend their communities against isis. they have to have a better opportunity to actually engage isis. they have to be better trained and better equipped. however, you really need to do this with the cooperation of the iraqi government. the success of iraq depends on a central government that has the confidence of all of the different ethnic communities. so if you start to work around the central government in the long run that's going to cause a real problem in stability in iraq. yes, we do need the sunnis engaged in the fight against isis but we also need to do it and work through the iraqi government. >> here's the rub i need you to help me understand. a big reason we have isis is because of the bathists, the sunnis disenfranchised or felt that way under the reconstituted government with maliki after the
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