can say i'm on a journey, i have a charge to keep. >> you were living in cairo with your husband, south african freedom fighter when you first met nelson mandela. i understand your husband and mandela were something of rivals, but that didn't matter to mandela. tell us about that experience. >> they were rivals. but when nelson mandela came to visit, he never joined the argumentative people. he was simply kind to everybody. >> when you heard that he was gone, what first went through your mind? well, i felt lost in a way. we've been friends so long, from the early '60s, and i felt lost. i didn't know quite what to say. i mean, it was a piece of news that we've known would come, but
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