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like how they were paid, and if their attorneys tried to influence their testimony in order to protect trump questions have focused on a group of witnesses who either work for trump or if lawyers that were provided by him. so joining me now on all of this is norm eisen. he was the house judiciary. special counsel in trump's first impeachment trial. so norm, you might be familiar with this kind of line of questioning. it seems to kind of go to this idea of perhaps obstruction. what is it suggest to you? um well, abby, the issue is donald trump attempting to control witnesses so that they will testify favorably to him? ah, ah, ah and unfavorably to the government by using inducements and one form of possible inducement is for trump save america packed to pay for those witnesses, lawyers and of course, we all know the allegations, cassidy hutchison

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