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engineer and david hughes is a former chief engineer president and ceo of amtrak. he's consulted on rail systems in more than 35 countries and i'd like to begin with you, mr. hughes what is your reaction to hearing that one of the conductors said that the engineer made a comment that this train had also been struck? >> well that's certainly a possibility, michael. things like that happen on a regular basis, unfortunately. trains and things drop from overpasses. those things happen. >> do you see a possible causal connection between this train being struck with an object or being struck and then derailing? >> only that the engineer was distracted from his duties. >> what occurred it me as i follow the chronology mr. hughes if this individual heard a communication between bostian and someone on another train saying that his train had been struck that would interrupt a

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