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Europes passportfree schengen zone. Greece calls accusations nonconstructive. In just a few hours iranian president Hassan Rouhani will meet his french counterpart francois hollande. Mr. Rouhani is on his first trip abroad since the nuclear deal took effect. Hes attempting to reestablish irans reputation and look for business investors. Chinas Financial Markets closed at their lowest point in more than a year on wednesdy. Take a look at all the red there. The shanghai composite fell nearly 3 , while the techheavy shenzhen composite fell just over 4 . U. S. President ial candidate donald trump plans to hold a fundraiser for military veterans thursday night instead of going to the fox news debate. I want to show you here an invitation for his event. The debate is just days before the critical iowa caucuses. Trump is feuding with fox news and host megyn kelly, who hes been calling biased. Trump spoke with her colleague bill oreilly, who told him skipping the debate is not good for america. Watch. The terrorists are going to come at you. And its going to be personal. Theyre going to do everything they can to diminish you and to and as president you have to rise above that. All right . And do whats best for the country. And this exposition that were talking about today, people are going to say, you know, trump, hes just too selfabsorbed to be president. Theres got to be something because you set the alltime record in cable history and so did cnn and they want to know you. They want to know you. Thats fine by walking youre not giving them the opportunity im not walking away. I was pushed away. Im not walking away. There you have it. This isnt the first time trump has tangled with megyn kelly. Our Brooke Baldwin takes a look. Reporter august 6th, 2015, megyn kellys very first question to donald trump the question that started it all. One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you dont use a politicians filter. However, that is not without its down sides. In particular, when it comes to women. Youve called women you dont like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Your twitter account only rosie odonnell. Reporter august 7th. Fueled by what trump calls unfair questions from the moderator, trump tells cnns don lemon she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. And you know, you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. Reporter trump later said those comments were misunderstood. Nevertheless, that did not sit well with women viewers, especially megyn kelly herself. Apparently, mr. Trump thought the question i asked was unfair and felt i was attacking him. I felt he was asked a tough but fair question. Mr. Trump did interviews over the weekend that attacked me personally. Ive decided not to respond. Trump, who is the frontrunner, will not apologize. And i certainly will not apologize for doing good journalism. Reporter after a deluge of insulting tweets against megyn kelly and fox news, trump announces a boycott of the network, tweeting on september 23rd, fox news has been treating me very unfairly and i have therefore decided that i wont be doing any more fox shows for the foreseeable future. That boycott lasted all of six days, when he appeared on the oreilly factor. So youre back. Reporter october 7th. Megyn kelly opens up to charlie rose about this ongoing feud. Neither one of us wanted any sort of a war with donald trump. You know, and we didnt think that benefited the channel. We didnt think it benefited me. And we dont think it benefited donald trump. Reporter after another round of twitter insults against kelly trump follows up the december 15th Republican Debate on cnn by again airing his fox grievances with bill oreilly. Honestly, i think i get better press from cnn than i do fox, bill. Reporter which brings us to this week. Megyn kelly and donald trump were set to come face to face again in a primary debate just ahead of the iowa caucuses. But it seems there will be no burying of the hatchet, so to speak. Heres what he said to wolf blitzer on cnn monday. But im not a fan of megyn kelly. I dont like her. She probably doesnt like me. And thats okay. But she better be fair. Id like to go to the debate. I enjoy the debates. Ive done well in the debates. Every single poll has said ive won every debate. But were going to see what happens. Going to be exciting. When you say probably, you havent 100 decided you will no. Nothings 100 . Joining me now to talk about all of this is democratic strategist joe listingi and jeffrey lord, former Reagan White House political director and donald trump supporter. Hes on the right of your screen. Welcome to you both. Joe, i want to begin with you. We have this spectacle now of Donald Trump Holding his counter event to the gop debate. It is adding a sense of drama to what are usually dry events. Would you at least admit that trump has once again found a way to dominate the political conversation, unlike any candidate before . Absolutely. Donald trump has taken president ial politics to a whole other level. Only the don could do. And hes actually proved one adage that we always talk about in politics, which is theres no such thing as bad press. We thought that went away a long time ago with scandals after scandals. But when his poll numbers lag or they start to drop or plateau he comes out with something that gets everybody talking about him again which then he sees a corresponding bump in his poll. And thats what he needs to do. Hes out there running his wind sprints to keep his numbers floating and its working. No other candidate could do it like this, though. I know jeffrey would agree with you on that. But jeffrey, would you at least admit this is a huge gamble for donald trum. And could in fact diminish this image hes built up of being a strong, successful deal maker . I mean, this kind of flies in the face of that. Well, is it a risk that hes taking . Sure. To some extent it is. But will it fly in the face of his image as being a strong, determined leader . No. Absolutely not. This is exactly to take off on joes point, this is exactly why so many millions of people love the guy. They look Rush Limbaugh did an excellent analysis of this today. On american radio and what he was saying in essence is that donald trump breaks all the conventional political formulas for how you run a campaign. And in the doing of that what he does is makes the other guys look all too conventional. And this is exactly the problem so many people see with washington, that they will pass a huge budgetbusting bill and then say well, theres a victory or theyll say you cant discuss the illegal immigration problem because its not politically correct. And here is donald trump being politically incorrect. So its a sign of strength at this point he is immutably identified with strength. So i dont think anybody is going to except his political opponents are going to try to make some hay out of it and say hes weak here. Most republicans watch fox news and he picked a fight with them. That could be a bad thing for him in the fall especially when were going out against democrats because hes got to look back at everything hes done and democrats can hold his feet to the fire with one united voice. But there are some issues among democrats. While senator Bernie Sanders enjoys a boost from his meeting with the top democrat, president obama, he is getting resistance from the most powerful democrat in the house, minority leader nancy pelosi. Here she is responding to bernies admission his policies would raise taxes to pay for his health care plan. Watch . What bernie said was im going to reduce the cost of health care and it may involve some people paying were not rung on any platform of raising taxes. And hes talking about a single payer. And thats not going to happen. Does anybody in this room think were going to be discussing a single payer . Joe, how big of an era was it for sanders to so bluntly say hes going to raise taxes . Thats his play. Thats one of the few plays hes got left. This is appealing to the far leftwing side of our party because thats what they always wanted, was a single payer system like weve seen around the globe be fairly successful. So he dont forget, not only did he talk about Single Payer Health care but hes also talked about free college. These are things that the liberal base really likes its open to the public as a whole, right . No matter what your income level is you can go to college. It opens up doors that may have never been opened before. But financially weve got to pay for it. And the reality is in this country we dont like higher taxes. Jeffrey, how much would you use this taxraising admission against sanders should he become the nominee . It seems to fit right into the republican playbook. Every day along with the ad that features the hammer and sickle. Bernie sanders is a socialist. You can almost hear the terror in Nancy Pelosis voice as shes trying to say no, no, no, no, really, not us, not us, please dont say that. Yeah. This is great, and we want to thank him. Democratic strategist joe lestangi joining us from d. C. And cnn political commentator jeffrey lord in harrisburg, pennsylvania. Thanks to you both for speaking with us. Something both sides can enjoy. Thanks, joe. Thanks. Now to some other stories were following for you. The fbi has arrested three more people who had been occupying a wildlife refuge in oregon. Officials say they turned themselves in at a Police Checkpoint near the refuge. They join eight other protesters who were arrested tuesday. And all face felony charges. The group has been protesting u. S. Federal land policies which they claim are unfair. Cnns dan simon has more. Reporter errol, things remain very tense here as you still have some armed occupiers at that refuge and its anyones guess how this will come to an end. But we should point out that through his lawyer the leader of the occupation ammon bundy is now telling everyone who is still there to go home. In his words, they should go home and hug their families. Obviously no, one wants to see a repeat of bloodshed after you had one of the occupiers who was killed during that traffic stop. More than three weeks after armed militia took over a federal wildlife refuge in oregon, a deadly shootout between militia members and the police. Yesterday the fbi, with our partners, took the first steps to bring this occupation to a conclusion. Reporter group leader ammon bundy and seven others were arrested tuesday night after the fbi and Oregon State Police pulled them over on their way to a meeting with community residents. Bundys brother ryan was shot and suffered minor wounds. But a spokesman for the armed occupiers, lavoy finnecumb, was killed. Its time for everybody in this illegal occupation to move on. There doesnt have to be bloodshed in our community. Reporter bundys father says his son called him from the back of a Police Cruiser moments after the shootout. My son ryan had been shot in the arm. Lavoy finicum, they coldblooded killed him. He said he had his hands in the air, said he wasnt armed. He wasnt any threat. And they coldblooded killed him. Authorities say ryan bundy and finicum did not obey orders to surrender and shots were fired. The armed group took over the refuge on january 2nd, in part to protest the sentencing of two ranchers and to make a stand against what they called government overreach when it comes to federal lands. They continue to ignore us and pushed us to the point where we felt we had to make a stand to defend our rights. Reporter finicum previously told reporters he was willing to give his life for the cause. There are things more important than your life, and freedom is one of them. Reporter the sheriff says hed been trying to work with the group to find a peaceful solution but in the end he just couldnt meet their ultimatums. We dont arm up and rebel. We work through the appropriate channels. This cant happen anymore. This cant happen in america and it cant happen in harney county. Reporter well, as things remained fragile here, one particular note is that the federal complaint which was unsealed today mentions that authorities had reason to believe that the occupiers had explosives and nightvision goggles. Thats the first time weve heard that. But we should point out we dont know if officials were actually able to verify the presence of explosives. Errol . All right. Thanks for that. Dan reporting there from burns, oregon. Now, a group of organizations is filing suit demanding flint, michigan do more Water Testing and replace all lead pipes. Michigan switched the citys water source to save money about two years ago. Residents complained and high levels of lead were found in the supply. Well, investigators want to know when michigan officials knew that this water was poisoned. Governor rick snyder told cnns poppy harlow hes released the relevant emails for the last two years. Were complying with every investigation in terms of being open. Well follow the appropriate legal processes for subpoenas and other legal matters. With respect to releasing my emails, i did that. This is an extraordinary case. This is not a normal case. And the reason i did 14 and 15 is the press in particular, everybody wanted to know when did i find something out. So i released the relevant emails, my emails that address that issue for the relevant time period. Some of them were redacted. And im wondering if youll release all of them having to do with flint water back to 2011. Have you made that decision yet . Again, i released the ones that were most relevant. When you say redacted, essentially these there were a couple that got redacted in terms of there were legal matters that didnt relate directly to water at all in flint. So just so im clear, it hasnt been decided yet if youll release them back to 2011 . No, im im confident we did 14 and 15, we answered the question that was asked, and now were complying with all the lawsuits and investigations fully. Now, filmmaker and flint native Michael Moore says snyder should be arrested. Here he is speaking with cnns jake tapper. They could have fixed this at any point in time. But once they saw theyd made the mistake, i think like a lot of politicians they figured these people are poor, they didnt vote for us, they dont have any political power, and so you know, well see what we can do. Because his first statements when this first got revealed, he said, you know, lead is seasonal. That was one of his first lines. Nobody knew what that meant. Then he said you get lead from paintu get lead from this or that or whatever. He tried to cover it up, changed the subject. Again, here we are sitting still talking about this. Flint doesnt need bottled water sent to it. All right . We need those pipes replaced. And not a single pipe has been replaced since they discovered lead in the water. Snyder says he will remain in Office Despite increasing calls for his resignation. Now we want to discuss a virus linked to terrible birth defects because it is causing alarm. Its something weve been following for weeks now. Two u. S. Based scientists believe the zika virus has explosive potential to become a pandemic, which is a widespread outbreak. And theyre calling on the World Health Organization to meet and address this. The virus is active in at least 24 countries. Currently, there is no vaccine for zika, nor is there any medicine to treat an infection from it. Cnns Shasta Darlington is in reseva, brazil, considered ground zero of the outbreak. Reporter she was so excited. But the birth of her second child left rafaela olvera more alone than she could have imagined. At three months luis felipe has a big appetite just like her first baby, but he was born with a small head and brain damage, microcephaly. People here react like hes got some contagious disease, she says. People look at him when were in the street. There was no warning. Doctors only detected the disorder after luis felipe was born. What gives me strength is the love i feel for him, she says. Luis felipe will need to be cared for his entire life. So shes doing this three times a week right now, taking her son to physical therapy, and yet she goes back to work in march. Its not clear how shes going to do this. And shes the only person in her family who has a job. Here in the state of pernambuco weve seen the heartache and financial burden this is putting on families. More than 4,000 cases of newborn microcephaly have been reported in brazil since zika was detected less than a year ago. A third of them are here, where babies and moms face endless jabs and tests. Dr. Angela hocha one of the first to make the link between zika and microcephaly. These babies have brain damage to differing degrees, which means inserting this generation into society is going to be very complicated, she says. Research continues to establish a cause and effect with the zika virus. Spread by the same mosquitos that transmit yellow fever and dengue. Theres no vaccine, no cure. Which means the egyptian mosquito is public enemy number one. All the effort has been put on having on prevention by having the population of mosquitos under control. Reporter 200,000 troops now going door to door, eliminating the stagnant water that serves as the mosquitos breeding ground and educating families. The Health Ministry admits its been losing the war against the mosquito. And motherstobe across brazil see their moment of hope turned into a moment of unbelievable anguish. Shasta darlington, cnn, recife, brazil. 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Even holding up alarm clocks at a rally supporting samesex unions. You see, italy is the only major western european nation that hasnt legally recognized these unions. But in the coming hour parliament will begin to debate this issue. And as cnns bobby nadeau reports, this cannot come soon enough for some couples. Reporter andrea rubetter and dario de gregorio are a happy family. But they want more. In canada we are married, and we are we had our children. Our children were born through surrogacy in canada legally. And we are both parents of a 3yearold. Nine hours of flight we jump into italy and we become two single fathers living together occasionally, sharing the same flat. Reporter samesex couples like andrea and dario want italy to now respect their marriage. They and tens of thousands of others have taken to the streets across italy to demand equality and basic rights like tax breaks and inheritance rights. The Italian Parliament is now dablting a bill that would recognize those rights for samesex couples. Under pressure from the European Court of human rights that deemed that italy was in breach of human rights by denying them. Its an issue highly influenced in italy by the vatican. The most contentious aspect of the law is what to do with the kids. They say that children have no choice. Reporter Massimo Franco is a political analyst. The very sensitive issue is stepchild option. This is the problem. I cant see just a division between catholics and noncatholics. There are catholics who tend to agree and noncatholics who dont agree on this law. Reporter italians are divided. We believe that no one of whatever Sexual Orientation has the right to have children. On the other hand, children have rights. And the first and fundamental right is the right to have a father and a mother. Reporter the italian bishops and many associations that stand against this bill are organizing a family day march this weekend to make their point. They expect as big a turnout as the demonstration they held last june when tens of thousands of people participated. The Parliament Debate would take weeks before a vote, and even if the law passes it could eventually end in a referendum. In the meantime families like andrea and dario represent the reality of samesex couples in italy. Divided and treated differently while trying to stay the same. Barbie nadeau for cnn in rome. And barbie joins us live next hour. We have covered a lost ground this hour. Of course it is cnn newsroom and im errol barnett. Connect with me on twitter anytime. Its always good to have your company. Next hour live reports from tehran, nairobi, and news as it breaks. Grab some tea and stay with me. These are the hands, the hands that drive commerce, that build business across borders. 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