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Sometimes the hit dog is right and then the bus is in trouble. We can trade georgisms later. In the crossfire tonight, the president of emilys list and Hillary Clinton supporter and the president of citizens united. Since youre the guest host, you get the first opportunity here. Well, great, thank you. First, thanks for having me. Lovely to be cohosting again, david, happy its you and not jon stewart sitting opposite from me. See how you feel at the end. But we go back a ways. We do. And our audience should know that. 20 years now youve been on this obsession, this antihillary obsession, whitewater, harassing her when she was first lady, as a senate candidate, running for president. In those 20 years shes been voted the most admired woman in america, so you failed as a political stalker. You just need a new hobby, dont you, david . I dont think so. First of all, you and Hillary Clinton and the rest just wont go away. Thats part of the problem why it gives us things to do and talk about. The crocodile tears being cried for her in all of those problems that she possessed in the 90s, and we were looking at them and they were very serious problem, paul. And youll acknowledge that the whitewater case and the finances or the land deals were Serious Business and thats why congress was looking at it. It was totally phony. After all those attacks, 613,243 americans have voted for her. 24,600 24,600,000. Youre 0 for life taking on hillary. Shes not been on the ballot nationally. Bill clinton was, bill clinton beat us. Like a drum. Let me ask, if i might, stephanie, i think there are substantive things i wont get into with these two guys. Well, theyve got 20 years. We go back a long time, both when i was speaker when we worked together and also we play films and documentaries were very proud of with citizens united. I want to say that for the audience. But i thought this week we had a really good example of the substantive burden shes going to be carrying. If you look at whats happening in crimea, and ukraine and putin. I want to show you for a second, hillary with her reset button, i think its worth rolling this for a second to see why i think shes got a challenge. We want to reset our relationship. Lets do this together. So we will do it together. I just want to suggest that that laugh really when you look at this week, she is part of an administration which has so profoundly misunderstood who Vladimir Putin is and so profoundly misunderstood the nature of power and of politics as it relates to that region, that thats something shes not able to throw up her hands and say, what does it matter . This is a big deal. How do you explain the gap between reset and crimea . Well, i think as secretary of state Hillary Clinton definitely held the line against putin. Shes been very aggressive, continues to be. I think well hear that over and over again. Shes the kind of leader this country is looking for. We can see it in the polls every day. Not just democrat, mind you, but shes leading across the board because of her leadership in the world and particularly in the United States with women and families. So youve got both going on. And im really pleased that shes out there speaking for us. First of all, the reset button, obviously, short circuited. This is a ridiculous attempt, what they did there, that photo op. In her time iran got the bomb. Ukraine is under water. Benghazi, the disaster at benghazi. Our relationship with israel so the worst its been in a generation. Shes a failed secretary of state and, paul, thats what were going to be focused on when she runs for president in 2016. Not all the things you want us to be talking about like jobs, health care. Lets talk about hillary care for a minute. Let me talk about benghazi first. You went you want to talk about benghazi . This is a record for my friends on the right. I timed it, 4 minutes and 48 seconds you didnt personally, but the show went for 4 minutes and 48 seconds. To paraphrase joe biden seem like my friends on the right have the sentence structure being a noun a verb and benghazi. You sound like the 90 ost. Youre making this old news before this is old news. This has been litigated and investigated. Oh, my god, youre henry waxman all of a sudden. Shed been under oath for seven hour, house and senate. There had been an independent investigation. How many attacks on embassies and consulates were there when bush was president . Ive heard this throughout the 90s, the dissembling, you guys making it old news when it was the first day. How many . Four people died at benghazi. How many died in trying to make it old news. How many died in the 13 attacks under bush and you didnt say a peep. This is politics. Its always politics, paul. You guys attack george bush all throughout his i did not attack him when those embassies were attack and those consites were. This is tragic, but the American People have been reading the same headlines were reading and the truth is theyre standing with secretary clinton. So much that theyre ready to see her run for president of the United States. And i look forward to that campaign. I do, too. Not as much as i do. One instinctive response which was a throwback to the late 90s when you said she can run on jobs. Absolutely. Did you see this mornings jobs report . This is the weakest recovery since the great depression. And obama care makes it weaker. Now if this continues for two more years, how is she going to run on, a, if obama care keeps decaying, which she said this week was so important we have to stick with it, b, if the economy stays this weak, how do you run on an unemployment and destroyed Health Care System . She tried to develop, by the way, in 1993 with you. Which was so good i know, i know its hard. Its hard. Go ahead. No, its clear that Hillary Clinton is her own person here. Shes going to if she decides to do this, which we should keep in mind, she hasnt decided if shes running for president of the United States. But she has a clear vision for Economic Opportunity in this country, and we are coming out of this recession. It has been slow, but it has been difficult. Were five years into a debacle. Lets also keep in mind that the Republican Party here has no vision for the future, but in fact, has a great vision for rolling us back decades on all sorts of issues that affect women and families in this country. So i just want to get this straight because im trying to understand how people on the left think. One of the great virtues of being on crossfire. So the unemployment going up this morning was a sign of progress . I just try to understand. Thats what theyre trying to tell you. The number of jobs went up. The jobs went up. And that is really important. Thats what we should be looking at. We continue to add jobs every month. Is it as fast as we want . No, but we also have a Republican Party particularly, if i dare say it, that refuses to do anything to move this country forward, but loves gridlock and obstruction helped by senator mcconnell on the other side. But heres the most interesting thing in terms of the burden hillary will carry. She has two burdens. One is obama, is she with him, does she repudiate him, does she dance in between . The other stated brilliant by by Bernie Sanders today in an interview and bernie went on to say, people are hurting and it is important for leadership now to explain to them why theyre hurting. I dont think that is the politics of senator clinton or the democratic establishment. I mean, isnt it fair to say that if you watch it go around the country at 200,000 a speech, you watch the scale of money that she and her husband raised, you watch the associations are getting, the size of their super pac friends, she represents the insider big business, big government, big labor system and i think bernies going to run and that will be his theme. If you really want the old order, Hillary Clinton after 40 years in public life is really the old order. The American People disagree with you on this. Shes been a champion for women. Shes got old and tired ideas and that will be born out in the campaign. I think you are was jimmy carter. Thats what weve been saying for the last 40 years. Now well be running a campaign that barack obama. You also said that about bill clinton when you were running him out of office. The same way, bossie, you will see. Hillary, i know youre watching. Dont feel bad. The pot shots, theyre nothing compared to this. 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Military or even in the Canadian Army of his country of birth, he claimed that these war heroes were not principled. And of course all of us remember president dole. And president mccain. And president romney. Look, those are good men, theyre decent men, but when you dont stand and draw a clear distinction, when you dont stand for principle, democrats celebrate. Dont stand for principle. Well, today bob dole, a 90yearold war hero from the greatest generation who fought and blood for our country in world war ii fired back. He said this. Cruz should check my voting record before making comments. I was one of president reagans strongest supporters. He is right. And mr. Bossie dont you agree with john mccain that ted should apologize to bob dole . No, not at all. You dont agree with you did not stand by principle. I didnt hear in that clip senator cruz say anything about bob dole or john mccain as service. I heard him talk about political campaigns, the president ial campaigns. I think he was right. The reason that guys, that those men lost is they tried to be too much in the middle. That is where they lost the base and thats where they lost the election. Music to my ears. Because elections are won in the middle. Mr. Bossie is conceding the center to my party and i hope its Hillary Clinton, get ready for another four years of democrats in the white house. In 2012 we saw a number of republicans stand on principle in the United States senate races, folks like todd aiken and we saw how that works, so this is great news. Those are different. I think its very different. And if you look at governors races there are a number of people hike scott walker who have stood on principle, won decisively in blue states and maybe set a stage for an interesting 2016. Pauls right, we have a wide open party right now. There are no frontrunners, there are just runners. Lots of people out there with lots of ideas and the range from rand paul to Chris Christie is a pretty wide range. On the other hand, i have to ask you, youre for hillary. Right now, i would say right now hillary is the prohibitive favorite although i have to confess i thought shed be the nominee until april. The machine was so big the name was so big and she and her husband was so good that as late as april she may be the nominee. I may be getting sucked in. Hillary coasts to a coronation, doesnt get any significant testing and suddenly finds herself in a general election shes unprepared for. Isnt there a certain cloying effect of having somebody so dominant after eight years of already being in the white house that theres no serious competition in 2016 . First, were already seeing an impulse today that she has she doesnt just have a lead like she had in 2007, this is a different situation. She is way far ahead. I mean, if you add up all the other potential democrats in democratic primaries they add up to like 15, 16, 17, all of them. So this is a different situation. You bring up a really good point. But i think this is actually what its more like. Theres energy already building. Groups like ready for hillary and emilys list are already have so much energy on the ground like they want to go, they want to organize, they want to get involved in 2014 theyre so excited. And we dont have a candidate yet. Im actually excited about this opportunity to really build from the ground up state by state while we can watch the republicans beat each other up from one extreme to another. I just have to say one thing. Would you like to suggest that hillarys got so much dynamic excitement, so much support and enthusiasm shell turn the tide around this fall and you are not going to lose seats in the senate and not lose seats in the house. I dont think so. We are up against history. Six years into the administration not the best time for the party in power. We have candidates that will buck that history in places like kentucky and georgia, if i may. Were going to pick up some senate seats here. Lets get history straight here. Hillary clinton was the juggernaut that she is now, she was it in 2007. Donna brazile, other democrat leaders were saying it is hers for the taking. It will be Hillary Clinton. She is the nominee without question. No one else can even come close. Then this guy who had no name i. D. , no organization and no money, for that matter, ran to her left and beat her very late in the process. As a matter of fact, so late i actually made a movie, i spent a lot of money, made a movie about her hoping it would be about hillary losing. Let me quibble a little. Fundamentally youre right, by the way, and so is newt. These things arent given away. If she runs, i really want her to, she will be hosted vigorously in my party and thats america. Thats good. You just called the circular firing squad when the republicans are doing it. Yes. This is the difference. Youre praising ted cruz, nothing could be better for me, abandon the center. Hillary runs, she is what she is. Shes a centrist democrat. Ted cruz, hes not a moderate republican. Hes a mcgovern. I think hes more like reagan. Hes lefty like mcgovern and we carried one state. You think ronald reg began and there are many candidates, many candidates who are going to be able to articulate the conservative republican message. Tell me, please, give me a good weekend. I would be very excited. Not as excited as me, my brother. This guy is a who stater. Youre in a fantasy world. We have had four years of secretary of state Hillary Clinton. Out to the pasture. You and the republicans are so desperate to make it so. The American People see it much differently. Thats why we see her leading in all of the poles. Because she is a different person today. No. No. She did. Polls in 2016 are premature. Polls about her secretary of state are not, take a look. Pull back today. I want to get it right. You probably wont. 67 of americans after you guys had been attacking her day and night. Of that 66 , republicans say she did a good job. And 68 say she is strong despite all of your attacks on benghazi. Do you think voters are stupid if they dont understand . No. I think the Mainstream Media brings it. Her campaign is going to consist of iran getting the bomb, benghazi, putin running all over the world with this reset clip being shown all over the place. Were welcoming that campaign. Stay here. We want you to weigh in at home on todays fire back question. Which party has deeper elections. Tweet us and well have the results after the break. We also have the outrages of the day including some people who think the president shouldnt be taking a vacation during a global crisis. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. 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He can be just as ineffective in key largo as he can be at the white house. My advice is get off his back. Let the president be ineffective wherever he wants and enjoy your weekend. Thank you, i think. That was brilliant. I have to say, that was brilliant. I hope he enjoys his weekend. I am outraged he was excluded from the cepac. They made room for antiu. N. Extremist and every hillary hater in america but byte gop or crowd. Fine because theyre gay. Thats not even the worst exclusion. The one im worst outraged about. Me. Last time i had the best time debating my. Person, carl. Boys, i did he have snitly wont kiss glue that is a real relief. Lets check on our fire back results. Which party has deeper divisions heading into the election. Right now 11 if you say republicans. There you go. People have spoken. David, can you defend your people. You have to do that. David and stephanie, thank you very much for joining us. The debate continues, of course at cnn. Com crossfire as well as on the fsh and from the left im paul ba gala. From the right, im newt gg. Erin Burnett Outfront starts erin Burnett Outfront starts right now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com next, Vladimir Putin defined a day after his call with president obama. The russian president tightens his grip on crimea tonight. Plus, charges filed against a pregnant woman who drove her children into the ocean. Hear the 911 call from her sister. Potentially damming testimony at the Oscar Pistorius trial. Lets go out front. Out front. Good friday evening, everyone. Im erin burnett. We begin out front with breaking news. President obama calling on a major ally to help bring president putin