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Many of them also just quietly coming out of the conference room, shedding a tear, resigned to the reality that they lost their loved one but a portion not accepting t. Saying that they want concrete proof and they are certainly pointing the fingers at the malaysians at this time. Wolf . The Chinese Government not necessarily accepting the malaysian statement that everyone is dead. They issued a statement, david, as you know, saying they want more information, they want all of the information and they are anxious to get it. Clearly they are frustrated that they are not getting everything that they want. Reporter well, they are and they have pointed out several times over this twoweek period, wolf, that they are not happy with the way that this has been handled by the malaysians. Also, you have to consider that the Chinese Government is trying to point the finger to malaysia to deflect any criticism of themselves. So its all kind of creating this very unfortunate level of anger, frustration, its all boiling over and youve got to feel for those families, hundreds of them stuck in this hotel and this cold room as they get this information, this terrible information for them. They just havent been able, really, to process it at this point. And some of them feel they are political pawns. Wolf . David mckenzie in beijing for us, thank you. Lets bring in our Senior Analyst peter goelz. David, this is from chinese family members. Such despicable acts not only destroyed us families of the 154 chinese passengers but also misled and delayed search efforts and wasted most precious lifesaving time. If our 154 relatives aboard lost their lives due to such reasons, Malaysian Airlines and malaysian military are the real murderers that killed them. Our heart goes out, peter. When you were working with the ntsb and dealt with families, you understand their pain . I do. Ive done family briefings. I did it for five years and they were extraordinarily difficult. And what we learned was that both transparency and giving them facts from day one are critical. And unnorfortunately, that has happened. Did they do the right thing based on the inmarsat data, if you will, announcing that everyone is dead . Well, i can see what they were trying to do but it was kind of hamhanded again. They did not preference this, they did not build up to it. To drop it on the family members like this, and there is no new information today. When you look at it, its the same information repackaged. You understand why the malaysian government made this announcement today, based on this analysis, as opposed to tangible evidence, if you will, wreckage from the plane . I dont. Obviously, they have been improvising, to say it charitably as we go along, this didnt settle or resolve anything. And the text message sent to family members n. A text message to family members said this. Malaysia airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that m370 has been lost in the southern indian ocean. Youre our legal analyst. What kind of recourse do these families have . Theres a treaty called the Montreal Convention that in any crash, the carrier has to pay the family of the person 170,000. Thats the start of the process. Beyond that, individual family members, the estates of the people who died can sue if if they identify fault. Was this the fault of the airline, of the airplane manufacturer . Was it the fault of a subcontractor . Thats where things can get very complicated and, of course, that conversation and the litigation cant begin until we know what happened. Which countrys court will have jurisdiction over lawsuits that will emerge . Think about the complexity here. You have a malaysian airline, mostly chinese passengers, an american manufacturer in a plane that apparently, apparently went down near australia in international waters. Most likely, as i understand it, the litigation would start in china and malaysia but there will certainly be an effort to bring it to the United States because thats where the deepest pockets are and that has the most plaintifffriendly litigation. And boeing is a manufacturer of the 777. There are 1100 777s flying. Exactly. This is a very safe plane. Youre familiar with this plane. If it was a mechanical problem that caused the plane to go down, is boeing doing anything to check that . I assume they are trying to go through it. I havent heard that any planes have been put on standby as we investigate. Boeings hands are tied. Like all participants in the investigation, because of the way in which it is structured. But the answer is yes. They are going through their own investigation. They dedicate tremendous resources its their flagship product. But they are not standing down or recommending to airliners, dont fly this plane for now as we investigate . No. Theres absolutely no evidence to indicate that that is the correct decision. If theres a problem, they will stand their fleet down and fix it but in this case they have nothing. Guy s, thanks very much. Weve all seen the satellite that shows there may be debris. Repeat. May. Richard quest is standing by. Well join him in a moment. Ins pronto lunch starting at 6. 99. An entirely new menu created with your busy schedule in mind. Handmade italian sandwiches, flatbreads, and our signature soup and salad. Starting at 6. 99. And all served pronto at olive garden. When folks in the lower 48 think athey think salmon and energy. A, but the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Thousands of people here in alaska are working to safely produce more energy. But thats just the start. To produce more from existing wells, we need advanced technology. That means hitech jobs in california and colorado. 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So you can feel free to add it to anything. And feel better about doing it. Better it with benefiber. Its day 18 in the disappearance of flight 370 and even though malaysias Prime Minister says flight 370 bent down somewhere in the southern indian ocean, plenty of questions remain about the information used to reach that definitive conclusion. China, in particular, wants malaysians to share all of their evidence. Lets bring in cnns Richard Quest. What do you think of the headline that based on the inmarsat data, the malaysian government says everyone basically is dead right now . Is that enough to tell these families that their loved ones are gone . I think you have to take it as more than just inmarsat. Inmarsat looked at the data, the pings. They went much further in the triangulation. They then passed that evidence on to the aaib, the british equivalent of the ntsb. Enormously experienced. And there was a very large peer review of what they said. And then they went on and said, look, weve got no evidence of any radar from any country in the northern corridor, not from thailand, not from myanmar, not from kazakhstan. No one has said they saw it. Its not just one piece of evidence that they had. They took the data, then mapped it on top of Everything Else they knew. And yes, wolf, i think you do come to a point where you have to say, this is our best information and it takes the story beyond a reasonable doubt. And they couldnt have waited a few more days to see if they found any wreckage . And upon that, wolf, you and i would have been the first people to have been screaming how dare you not tell us that you sat on information that could have no. On that i disagree. I would have said, heres the report that inmarsat gave us. Were going to release is publicly. Miles obrien can read it, Richard Quest can read it. Here are the footnotes. We are not yet ready, though, to conclude 100 definitively that everyone is dead, because even inmarsat, the Senior Vice President told us today that most likely this is the conclusion, but they cant reach it 100 . Fair point, wolf. I think thats something that the malaysian Prime Minister will ultimately have to live on his own conscience if its proved to be incorrect. And looking at the Statement Today from the malaysian Prime Minister this morning, it seems and speaking again to chris mclaughlin, they are more than fairly confident. They are saying that the level of integrity is such. Bearing in mind they may not find objects and debris, for days if not weeks, if not months, that it was the right con decision to come to that conclusion. Whats this information about the plane going from 45,000 down to 23,000 and then up to 30,000 and then down to 12 and back up to 35 . If its on autopilot, youre not going to see those kinds of shifts. Well, the 45 to the 23 have not been confirmed. Sources say that the plane went down to 12,000 and backtracked over the peninsula. That was to prevent likely any traffic coming in the opposite direction but then it would have had to have gone back up to 35,000. Because one pilot i asked specifically, if youre flying at 12,000 feet, how much is your fuel burn increase . He says about 40 to 50 . So at 12,000 feet, it would have never got anywhere near the south indian ocean and we dont know on that point. That is one of the key issues that has to be confirmed by the malaysians, by the investigation. Did it actually go down . Because as you rightly point out, going down and going back up again, that does show human intent, not autopilot in command. Are we any closer to figuring out whether a human being caused this plane to disappear or some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure . Thats a very, very tough question. I would say that it starts to move no. I would say were not. And from my way of thinking, and ive been in the middle all the way here and ive been looking one way or the other, there will be those who say this clearly shows x or y. I would say it merely shows the tragic end of this flight. I have a socalled black box here, even though its orange, and the pinging noise is still going on for another, what, how many, 17 days, 13, 14 days now. 12 to 17 days on a good ratio. Yes, the best hope now is that they retrieve objects which turn out to be debris because from that they will be able to work out from where the main debris field should be and even those individual pieces of debris, as rene was explaining earlier, even they will be able to give clues if they are the right piece of the right part of the plane. We have moved considerably forward in the last 24 hours. Make no wonbones about that. Weve moved forward in terms of where the plane will be, might be. We havent moved forward in understanding why or how it got there. Thats absolutely true. Richard quest, thank you so, so much for all of your excellent reporting. Were going to continue to follow all of the developments in perth, australia, and the indian ocean where its Tuesday Morning. Planes will be heading and they have already started, by the way, to resume the search for flight 370. Another search is under way in Washington State where at least 108 people are now missing. Missing after a deadly landslide. Now officials worry there could be new landslides. Well have a new report. dad well, weve been thinking about it and were just not sure. agent i understand. dad weve never sold a house before. agent ill walk you guys through every step. dad so if we sell, do you think we can swing it . agent i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that ive found, the timing is perfect. Theres a lot of buyers for a house like yours. dad thats good to know. mom im so excited. Meet your biggest competitor Philips Slimstyle led bulb. 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Were certainly keeping our eyes on the latest news coming in from the search for flight 370. In Washington State there is deep concern about new landslides as searchers and emergency officials try to locate 108 people reported missing after a deadly landslide this weekend. We know eight people are confirmed dead but some of those missing might be alive. Lets go to George Howell on the scene with the latest. Reporter we know that earlier this morning they announced a very robust plan to go in there with search dogs and people on the ground to search the land for survivors but pulled the plan back because geologists say the land is just too unstable. For many of the families here it is another day of waiting, wondering. We know the number of unaccounted for has risen significantly. Its unclear exactly how many people could still be trapped in this square mile of mud and debris. As each day passes since this cliff gave way the uncertainty of not knowing is the worst part for people like caroline neil. My dad is a quick thinker. Reporter her 52yearold father who work as a plumber was on a service call in the area when the mall of mud slammed through in seconds. We have to think he is somewhere and is safe and they just cant reach him right now. Reporter the number of missing has shot up dramatically as officials try to compile reports from social media or personal websites the families may have set up in search of loved ones. Investigators are looking into 108 reports of people unaccounted for. It is a consolidated list. In some cases the list is very detailed. It is john who has brown hair, blue eyes and live in this particular neighborhood. And a lot of cases it is a name like frank. I met him once. I think he lived over there. Reporter a little more than 48 hours since the massive mudslide, the rescue effort intensified monday with crews probing the ground with electronic equipment to search for survivors. By mid day they had to scale the operation back because the ground was still unstable. So far they have not found survivors. We are still in a rescue mode. I want to let everyone know that the situation is very grim. We havent we are Still Holding out hope that we are going to be able to find people that may be alive. We have not found anybody alive on this pile since saturday. Reporter as it happened on a saturday officials believe more people were at home instead of being away at work. We learned today they are searching an area of more than 100 properties that were in the slide zone. 49 of the lots had some sort of structure on the property like homes, Vacation Rentals or rvs. Officials say 25 of the homes were occupied full time and ten part time. Majority of the homes damaged, buried or destroyed. We know this is being called an active search and not a recovery operation at this point. We know the ground is still very unstable. The search on the ground has been halted until geologists give the okay to go back. George howell on the scene for us. Thanks for the update. We are getting new information on the search efforts for flight 370. Stay with us. Well be right back. So our business can be on at ts network for 175 a month . Yup. All 5 of you for 175. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. Were working deals all day. You get 10 gigabytes of data to share. What about expansion potential . Add a line, anytime, for 15 a month. Low dues, great terms. Lets close new at t mobile share value plans our best value plans ever for business. [ matt ] the only thing better than the smell of freshcut grass is the smell of perfectly level, freshcut grass. That yellow seats my favorite chair. [ kathleen ] you want to find a john deere dealer . 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The Australian Maritime Safety Authority says it has undertaken a Risk Assessment and determined current weather conditions would make air and sea search avenues dangerous. They say they have consulted with meteorologists. They say weather conditions are expected to improve in the search area in the next few days. They say Search Operations can be expected to resume tomorrow if weather conditions permit. In the meantime no search activity today going on. It is already Tuesday Morning in the search area in australia and in the indian ocean. Unfortunately, the search activity for wreckage will not happen. Thats it for me. Thanks for watching. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. Erin Burnett Outfront starts right now. Next breaking news. The search for missing flight 370 has just been suspended. We are live in perth for the latest. And the malaysian government says the plane crashed into the indian ocean killing everyone on board based on satellite data. Just how sure are they . Breaking news in Washington State tonight. We will go live to the scene of a deadly landslide. More than 100 people still missing at this moment. Lets go outfront. Good evening. Im erin burnett. The search for Malaysia Airlines flight 370 has just b