Ill see you tomorrow. All year yeah, youre ready. We welcome. Welcome. Welcome you to king charles and gayle king. You are who Charles BarkleyCharles Barkley, and guess what guys, were starting things off a little differently tonight because our first guess, you could say, has a very big weekend coming up here with us tonight, fresh off of a rally in her home state, is former governor of South Carolina and republican president ial candidate nikki haley. Governor we thank you for being with us. I know youve come straight from the rally. Were so glad that youre first stop is with us. Welcome. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it so much. Im going to start gill. All right. Please governor im dying to vote for you i mean that sincerely i want to give all my energy and all my heart behind your campaign. But i was upset. When you made the reference that you didnt think america had racism and my question is, i was disappointed. Number one, obviously. But i want to give you a chance that you say that because you felt like you needed to say that to the audience. Because i because i can say im done the bulk for you. And that that hurt me. So i will love you to clarify that, please. So first of all, i never said that there was not racism in america. There absolutely is racism in america. I said that america was not a racist country. And the whole point of that is, and charles, youll appreciate this when i grew up, the only indian family in a small rural southern town, we werent white enough to be white. We werent black enough to be black. They didnt know who we were, what we were while we were there. If my mom had told me that we lived in a racist country i would have grown up never thinking i could be governor never thinking i could be ambassador, never thinking i could run for president. But my mom always said, your job is not to show them how youre different. Your job is to show them how youre similar. And its amazing how that lesson on the playground played throughout my life, whether it was the corporate world is lets governor is ambassador, that once i was ever presented with a challenge, if i first talked about the things we had in common, people would let their guard down. And then we could go towards a solution. But governor races are and you say, our jobs should be governor. I think most people heard your job should be not. We lead off it says when a racist country thats the problem that we heard essay, thats what i centered. Okay so i never said i said that america is not a racist country. The premise of america was never to be a racist country. And that our number one goal should it might be to make today better than yesterday, we need to stomp out racism wherever it exists. But if you go and tell kids that they live in a racist country, then youre automatically telling brown and black kids that theyll never be good enough. I dont want our kids to think that i want them to know that yes, there is racism. Yes, it is wrong wherever we see it, but that doesnt mean that the country is against you. That means that we need you even more than ever. So we can stomp it out wherever we see it okay. I really dont want to split hairs, but the exact quote that you said was america has never been a racist country. I think thats the problem that people objected to were not, were not disputing that what youre saying about americas not a racist country. Some people would argue with that but were saying the comment you made that particular day, was it america has never been a racist country. And i think thats what got thats what caught people off surprise, caught people off guard and saying, i dont think that and i dont think the premise of america was to be a racist country. I think that they said that every man was created equal with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And getting it to the place it needed to be, was america was a work in progress, but i dont think that the basis of america was that we were racist country. I think the goal was always to have freedom. Now, we stumbled along the way and weve got some parts of our history that were not pretty, but we got past that. I dont think that our founders wanted us to have a racist country. I dont believe that thats the basis that america sits on. Thats what i was saying is i dont think the premise of america was ever to be a racist country. I think its always to be the best country with the most freedom that allows anybody to be whatever they want to be without government getting in their way or anybody else getting in their way okay . Youre making news again today. You make news everyday, Governor Haley, but today youre making news because you agreed with the Alabama Supreme Court that ruled that embryos are people. And today you said yes, you believe their people to i think theyre troubled. Many people so she women who are going through ivf treatments, were hearing reports already about Fertility Clinics that are shutting down because theyre worried. What do you say to women that are now concerned about that . And your position in that particular issue . Well first of all, i didnt i mean, this is again, i didnt say that i agreed with the alabama ruling. What the question that i was asked is, do i believe an embryo is a baby . I do think that if you look in the definition, an embryo is considered an unborn baby and so yes, i believe from my stance at that is the difference is and this is what i say about abortion as well we need to treat these issues with the utmost respect. I had trouble having both of my children. I am very aware of what it means to go through artificial insemination. All of those things related to in vitro. I know what that is, and i also know the importance between a dr. And the parents is very important to have those conversations. This case was based on and should be based on the rights of those parents for their embryos and to make sure that they have the responsibility with the doctors on how those are handled. Nothing more than that. And i will well continue to say these issues keep coming up and everybody wants to divide people on these issues this is not the time where you divide people. You bring people together, our goal is to always do what the parents want with their embryo. It is theres so any physician that is in control all of those embryos, they owe it to those people to make sure they protect that embryo and that they do with that embryo, with those parents want done with that embryo. That is the way we should look at that situation. You know, youve had a magnificent life so far. Incredible life. What you accomplished, you talk about your family being immigrants but we have to admit the border is i would say its chaos, but that wouldnt do it. Justice. What . What is your i dont think anybody has the perfect solution whats the best way to address this Immigration Issue there is a solution and thats thats the issue when i was governor of South Carolina, we passed the toughest illegal Immigration Law in the country. We need to take what we didnt South Carolina and go national with it. We need a national E Verify Program that requires businesses to prove that the people they hire are in this country legally, we need to Defund Sanctuary Cities once and for all we cant have safe havens. Thats the incentive that makes them want to come here we need to go and put 25,000 Border Patrol and ice agents on the ground and let them do their job. We need to go back to the remain in mexico policy. And instead of catch and release, we need to go to catch and deport. But charles, look at what happened last week. Here you had congress had a bill on the border. Now, the part of the bill that was good, was it it strengthened asylum laws. We need those strengthened because under the trump administration, 3 million Illegal Immigrants came because we didnt have Strong Enough asylum laws. The part of the bill that was week was it didnt have the remain in mexico policy. We dont want anyone and stepping foot on us soil, we have to have that policy and they had a 5,000 persons we dont even want a oneperson threshold. Weve got to make sure every person has vetted before they are allowed to come here. So congress should have gotten in a room and figured it out and not left until they got us a Strong Border bill. But instead they went home for vacation for two weeks, which is unacceptable. But the other side of that is donald trump went and told them not to pass anything until after the general election in november because it would hurt him we cant wait one more data secure the border. Congress needs to get in there and do their job. And donald trump needs its the stay out of it because americans need to be protected and we have got to secure that border. America is acting like its September 10th we better remember what September 12th felt like it only takes one person to have a non 11 moment. Donald trumps base is very clear. They cannot be moved people say they know who joe biden supporters are when you talk about your supporters and your base, who is that exactly in your in your opinion who want anybody and everybody . You dont my goal is to get people who want normal again, my goal is to get people who see we cant have 280 yearold candidates and continue down the path that were on. My goal is to make sure that we bring sanity back and the tone at the top matters. And so thats what im trying to do. If you want to talk about what the American People are saying, 70 he percent of americans are saying they dont want trump or biden though, weve heard 60 of americans are saying they think joe bidens too old and Donald Trumps too old theyre the two most disliked politicians in america. Why are we letting that be our choice . Thats why im running Governor Haley. Were going to take a really quick break and well be right back. Dont leave, dont leave why you ran Hates America Sunday at eight the greatest Stage Sick Joke about for a lifetime reason, to championed tvs you wayfair is the talk of a neighborhood we want error kleiner, but it had to be sheik. We wait fair to waive their for the wins. Look fancy we wayfair this and save the time. When does it again . Its beautiful on wayfair. We waste their tile faucet, tilework. Guess the wayfair word is out hey are you got just what i need. Doctors recommend coal, a Stool Softener for gentle dependable relief from constipation. 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And so you know, obviously run running for president , not having him here as hard but, you know, im so grateful to him and all of his military brothers and sisters who are willing to serve and sacrifice for us because they know freedom isnt free. They know that this is about something bigger than themselves. And so yes, it was i mean, that wasnt that wasnt something ive wished would have happened, but you cant help, but sometimes and it was just a moment where it hit home. Why do you what do you wish it wouldnt have happened . I think its sometimes helps people to see insight into any politicians ive actually, im wondering how your husband and your kids, you have to adults children, how they handle all the incoming thats coming at their mom on a daily basis i think, you know, i think its hard. I think its hard for michael, 8,000 miles away when he reads or sees whats happening. I think the kids have been fantastic. They have been on the bus tour with me any chance they can come in and help, and support my daughter with it. Every debate, my son is now with me on the bus tour. Theyre trying to step up for where they know their dad would be, but im so proud of everybody and military families. Its not just the Service Member that sacrifices its the military families that sacrificed and we are blessed to live in america, in a country where we have people who are willing to sacrifice just for us to have these freedoms. Have you ever we had a couple of political guest on throughout the last few shows like, have you ever been in an election where theres one guy doesnt show up for the debates im in one now. He wont show up for debate. Weve asked him multiple times to debate and he wont, you know, its amazing to me because he goes and he hes doing these commercials now in South Carolina where he says, im for open borders and i want to raise taxes and now we sent Text Messages to everybody saying i want to cut social security. None of those is true. None of them is true and i always say if youve got a lot of when you dont deserve to win. But i cant ask him because he wont get on a debate stage. And so, you know, its one of those things where we just continue to pound away all right. And remind people who he is. This is a man that, you know. First of all, we had 14 people in the race. I defeated a dozen of the fellas. I just got one more. I got to catch up to and in iowa, they didnt give us much of a chance and we came in and were 1 away from second place, then a New Hampshire on election day, they said we were third 30 points down and we got 43 of the vote the problem is that night, donald trump was upset about it and all he did was talk about revenge and my dress by the way. And then the next day he goes and says, anybody that supports her is barred permanently from maga if youre running for president , your job is to bring as many people in, not push people out and then you see his court cases where he claims hes a victim. The problem i have is during none of that, did he ever talk about the American People . He never talked about the fact that we were 34 trillion in debt. He never talked about the fact that only 30 pretty 1 of eighth graders in our country are proficient in reading. He never talked about an open border. He never talked about lawlessness in our cities, you never talked about the but right now, lets talk about himself. That is true. Governor, but hes the one fella you still got to catch. And right now, theres a very big gap between the two of you. You worked with him them in his administration. What was the most challenging thing for you working with him back then we actually worked well together. And the reason we worked well together is when he was doing something good, i rallied i fought board, i wanted america to be strong, but when he was doing something wrong or that i didnt think was going to end. Well, i would pic