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CNNW Wolf March 20, 2014

Wing. Australia and u. S. Aircraft reached the area today but so far have found nothing. Visibility was limited because of rain and clouds. But search planes are due to return in the area at sunrise, thats just about five hours from now. And a norwegian cargo ship is continuing to hunt for the debris around the clock. Officials stress the objects may just be ocean garbage, like a container that may have fallen off of a ship. But they also say the sighting is the best lead theyve gotten so far. Our experience is that there is debris out there from ships for example falling overboard and other objects of that type. On this particular occasion the size and the fact that there are a number located in the same area really makes it worth looking at. But i dont want to speculate about what they are until we get there and we see them. The search crews will face serious challenges including the weather. Jim schutto is joining us now. Jim, exactly where are those two objects locate snd. Lets put it in relation to the search area weve been talking about the last 24 hours ago. You remember that u. S. , australia and even chinese resources focusing on this area, about 1400 or 1500 miles off the southwest coast of australia. Now, the debris was found just 14 miles to the south and east of there south and west of there south and east of there i should say right about there. Heres what were looking at. These are the images. The larger one 24 meters, almost 79 feet, the smaller one about 18 feet. Whats interesting is they also spotted smaller pieces debris about it. They cant be sure of the size but in addition to the large one it looks at least the possibility of a debris field. We do know now theyre getting other commercial satellite, so say the australian authorities, to look at this area again to get more images, me are refined images to get a better sense of whats there. What about the other area sns are they still searching there . Or are the crews now being diverted to the southern indian ocean target point . Well, officially there are still areas both in the south down where the debris has been found and the north. And in fact australian authorities, malaysian authorities said today that countries all along here are still deploying asset, that laos is looking in its territory, vietnam, kazakhstan and china, western china, still looking at its radar data, sending helicopters and airplanes to here. That said really the focus increasingly coming down here. Heres a great indication of that. Of the 29 ships involved in the search of the northern and southern corridor, four of them are up here and 25 of them now headed down here. That gives you a real sense of where they think that the plane might be. Again, as youve said many times, weve said many times theyre not sure, the satellite images are grainy. At least as theyre allocating resources this is becoming the new focus. And get more information as daylight begins in about five hours over there. Thanks so much jim sciutto. Much more on this ocean search coming up in a few moments, but theres also information coming in on the investigation of two pilots. Authorities are examining the captains and copilots computer hard drives and the hard drive in the captains home Flight Simulator. Our pamela brown has learned more about what the officials have learned so far key words so far, are finding out. Pamela, what are your sources telling you . Thats right, so far really is sort of the key phrase here, wolf. Forensic experts are in the beginning stages of analyzing that hard drive that was taken from the Flight Simulator from the captains home in malaysia. And were told at this early stage experts are confident that theyll be able to retrieve at least some of the deleted data from that hard drive. Of course we learned from malaysian officials yesterday that data was deleted from the captains hard drive on february 3rd. But the fact we have a data deletion and the fact there is still retrievable data on that hard drive are promising signs according to experts ive been speaking with. But i can tell you, wolf, that the fbi is throwing all the manpower they have at this trying to retrieve that data as one of my sources told me today theres a possibility that theres someone theres something on that hard drive that could clue us in as to what happened. And time is really running out here. So really they are putting theyre throwing everything at it trying to figure it out. And we should know soon at least, wolf, if how much of that data that was deleted can be recovered. But theyre not giving you an estimate how long they think this might take even if they bring in outside computer experts to go through those hard drives . At this point im told by sources that outside experts havent been brought in yet, but we are again at the beginning stages. They are still trying to assess what kind of experts they need to be brought in, whether they need experts from the software company. But as far as the degree of the data that was deleted, whether the captain, you know, or someone else used Sophisticated Software Security Technology that would overwrite the data and so forth, we should be able to find the degree of deletions relatively soon, today, the next day, couple days. But as far as whats on that hard drive, that could take much longer. It could take weeks. We just dont know at this point because we are still in the early stages how long it will take. But as one of my sources said it could take some time. All right. Pamela brown reporting for us. Thank you. Lets get some analysis on all these latebreaking developments. Joining us our cnn aviation analyst, former ntsb manager peter gol, mark weiss and tom fuentes, former director at the fbi. Peter, lets get back to the debris. It looks like a pretty promising lead. You studied it, youve had a few hours to digest what weve heard from the australians. What is your analysis . I think it is promising. And i think whats most promising is its in the location of the ntsb, faa and australians all agree is the most promising spot. Weve got to get out there and get a look at it. Its been in the water four days plus since the satellite took the images. So theyre going to have to use some tracking to figure out where the ocean currents and the wind was moving it. But its a step in the right direction. You see it as a promising lead too, or could there have been so many false hopes, false clues over the past week sns. I see it as promising and something they have to devote their resources too, but its still such a tough job. They have to, again, find the debris thats now drifted another five days since it was photographed by the satellite. And then even if they find it going back 14 days maybe of the actual original crash. Where in the ocean did that plane crash if the debris is sitting now in this site thousands of miles off the coast of australia. Lets not forget, mark, when they found the initial debris from that air france crash in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of brazil, they found initial debris five days into the search but then it still took two years to find the flight data recorder, the voice recorder, two years. It really just goes to the difficulty of this search team what theyre going to have in front of them. Certainly that past experience should give everybody hope that theres opportunity to find that aircraft, the debris field and hopefully theyll be able to put this to rest. You know, its interesting the way the australian Prime Minister, tony abbott, discussed this. Because he spoke to the parliament in australia about it. Thats a big deal. He didnt just make some sort of tentative announcement. I want you to listen precisely to what the Prime Minister said. New and credible information has come to light in relation to the search for Malaysia Airlines flight mh370 in the southern indian ocean. The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. Following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified. So, peter, thats a pretty strong statement. He seems to be fairly confident that this might be the real deal. Do you think its wise to raise those kinds of hopes right now before they know for sure . Or should they have waited to get definitive word that this is debris from the plane . I think theres a great deal of pressure to move this investigation forward. And i dont think the Prime Minister would have made those statements if the ministry hadnt assured him that they thought this was a pretty live issue. So im hopeful that this is going to turn out positive, that this is going to be part of the plane and this will be the beginning of the ability to find out where it went down. And it wont tell us even if its the debris how the plane wound up there or anything. Theyve got a lot more work to do after that. But it would be very, very significant moment in this mystery to be sure. Guys, were going to continue our analysis of whats going on. Out in the middle of nowhere well take a closer look at where the debris is, if it is the debris possibly from the missing flight 370. And later well be answering your questions about the debris, the planes flight path, the unprecedented search thats going on. Tweet us, use hash tag370qs. For Car Insurance today . Yeah. I heard about progressives name your price tool . 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Give us an idea just what this area is like, what the ocean currents specifically are like. Yeah, this is not a very forgiving part of the world. You have a lot of moving parts. You have very strong winds, very strong currents. Its a very deep, deep part of the world as well. This is the search area right here. You can see its just north of the west australian current. Now, that current moves at about a foot per second. Right now where the search area is not much current at all. So this is actually a best case scenario, if it can just stay put where it is and have nothing move it into that west australian current, they can get better visibility, they can get to the spot, see if that indeed is the plane. And that would be the best case scenario, wolf. Because if it does get into that west australian current, it is going to be bad news and very hard to find. It certainly will be. What about the weather right now . I understand there are storms, strong winds, waves thats really hampered this search in that specific area. Youre exactly right. They had a front move through yesterday. Thats why we keep hearing the visibility was low, a lot of clouds in the area, rain. That has pushed out. Now, this area is known for very, very strong winds. But luckily as we move through the next 48 hours were not planning on winds any higher than say 15 to 25 miles per hour. Thats great news. Were also looking at our exclusive cnn forecast model, and still showing the same 15 to 25mileperhour winds is about maximum as we go through the next 48 hours. Beyond that of course things could change. But right now looking good. This is that front that we were talking about pass through. Visibilities should be much, much better, wolf. Sun should be rising. By 8 00 our time. So should have good visibility as we go into the next couple of hours and they can get those search crews out there. Jennifer, thanks very much. Lets go back to our panel, our aviation analyst mark weiss and peter goelz and tom fuentes. Mark, youre a pilot. One thing people have realized if this is debris from this airliner, it would basically correspond to where the flight could have run out of fuel if it had flown that entire six or seven hours. Absolutely. You know, i think whats been done is theyve taken the amount of time it would have normally gotten to beijing with the alternate fuels that it would have had and reprojected that on a southern path. And given that, given the winds at the time, this is the most probable area that this would have been in. So i think all of that coming together really kind of focuses the attention and now put the resources there. Some have suggested even if it were cruising on automatic pilot, say the pilots were disabled for whatever reason, runs out of fuel, it could still glide for a while before it actually went into the water. Yeah. Aircraft are inherently stable. But obviously gravity is a very large pull. So had that scenario been the case, then the aircraft would have kept flying. But it would have glided and it would have had a fairly decent glide angle. And that distance would have increased. Does this tell us lets say this is the debris, peter, from the plane. Does it give us an indication whether it was a mechanical failure or human being that caused this. It does not. We need more information. We dont know why this aircraft ended up in that position. If it ends up in the south indian ocean, why did it go there . We just dont know yet. And were not going to know just because we got some surface so not going to know until they find the flight data recorders, voice recorders, socalled black boxes which are really orange even then. Why do you say even then . Because the voice cockpit recorder will have been written over if the plane stayed in the air that much longer, theyre not going to be able to go back to listen to what happened in the cockpit. It will be silent. The last two hours theyll still have a lot of data. It will go up, down or sideways and wont tell you whats being said in the cockpit. But that data would be useful. It would be extremely useful. But it really raises the issue with what tom said. We need to have the data recorders and the voice recorders looked at again. Longer batteries so that they can be recovered over a longer period of time, longer time on the voice recorder. Should be a 24hour period. Why dont they have that . Whats the problem . Well, theres been a variety of oppositional positions. Pilots dont like it. Thats the main reason. Thats not a good reason. Well, its a tough one. Its their Work Environment. They believe that the voice recorders intruding on their Work Environment and theyve made some very persuasive arguments. You could make the case of School Bus Drivers have a video camera on them all the time. Why shouldnt pilots who have hundreds of people at risk have a camera in there as well . Absolutely. And theres enormous protections on who gets access to the voice recorder. That can be extended to video recorders. Its seldom violated. I think its time to extend the voice recorders beyond 30 minutes. I think i agree with you on that one. All right, guys, standby. Weve got much more to discuss. Searching for clues in a remote part of the planet, were going to zero in and try to discover how satellites actually work now that australian searchers have images of possible repeat possible, debris from the missing airline. Our clients need a lot of attention. Theres unlimited talk and text. Were working deals all day. You get 10 gigabytes of data to share. 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If you have persistent diarrhea, contact your doctor right away. Other serious stomach conditions may exist. Avoid if you take clopidogrel. For many, relief is at hand. Ask your doctor about nexium. It may take some time to find out if those two pieces of debris are in fact parts of missing Malaysia Flight 370. Brian todd is here taking a closer look, how do these searchers determine that this is actual debris from this airliner, if it is . Its a fascinating process, wolf. I spoke with tim brown, hes an analyst for globalsecurity. Org. He says when they take the satellite pictures, they download them to a ground station and then put them through the sophisticated Computer Program called change detection software. On that software after that kind of comes through the software, they look for contrasts, white or bright images against the dark of the ocean. And you can kind of see that with those pictures there. Now, its a pain staking process, it takes some time. Thats why its taken about four days for us to see these first, but it is a fascinating process. And, you know, he says the Group Digital globe, a coloradobased satellite operator, they have said that the satellite imagery that the australian cited it came from them, tim brown says digital globe would have taken this, analyzed it and sent it to the australians who would have gone over it frame by frame, pixel by pixel and says the australians probably would have seen something of slightly higher resolution than the images were seeing. Why would they see a better quality resolution . Why not release that instead of something that is in effect dumbed down. I think what we got indications of it may be a matter of National Security that theres some government regulations saying they have to, i guess, fuzz it over a little bit for pu

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