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Really have no idea isnt that basically correct . The ability of government to follow it on open social media is often murky. People in different agencies have different understandings of what theyre legally allowed to do when it comes to monitoring the communications of americans on open media social platforms. And thats something where a clarification would be very helpful. We can see with isis the massive impact these accounts have had. The amount of people who have been drawn to the syria iraq theater is greater already than it was during the afghan soviet war in terpsmaterials of the number of fighters that have come. It is advantageous to shut these accounts down and this is something that should be the companys decision. The u. S. Authorities have no authority to do that. Then how to counter the growing popularity of isis propaganda. The message u. S. Government officials should constantly say is this group positions itself as the defender of islam but its victims are overwhelmingly muslim. Its a factually correct statement that requires no special knowledge of islam and i think its a powerfully undercutting message for what this group is trying to say about themselves to the muslim world. At the end of the day, if you want to fight back against recruitment of 15yearold kids you need to work with 15yearold kids. We invented the internet. Weve got hollywood. Weve got the capabilities as mr. Sheikh was saying to blow these guys out of the water from the stand point of communications so we need to work on that. These hearings highlighted what was missed before this weeks attack in garland, texas, right outside of dallas. One of the shooters Elton Sampson, was very active on social media, but isis apparently countered that with volume. One of the reasons that, you know that was surprising about the garland event was it was something they had actually specifically talked about, then turned into an attack. Thats pretty unusual because they create so much noise that that needle in the haystack can be very difficult to detect. Lets bring in the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee who presided over the social media and terror hearing and one of the key witnesses. Wisconsin republican senator ron johnson is joining us. As is the former jihadist the counterterrorism operative and author mabin shiakh. What is the greatest threat to the American People of the social Media Presence of terror groups like isis . Well it is recruitment probability. Sort of the unanimous opinion that this is just a harbinger of things to come. If we finally can defeat isis which by the way, means denying them that territory, destroying that caliphate, thats a huge undertaking there. There are going to be other groups that notice what isis has done to effectively use social media. Because now with modern technology individuals that harbor, you know these evil thoughts can find one another and they can travel and meet each other very quickly. So this not a oneoff deal here this is going to continue. Mubin, is this a winnable war, this war on isis the propaganda the social media . Because u. S. Officials, highlevel officials have said to me repeatedly they seem to be much better at it than the u. S. Is. I think there is a war. Whos going to do the playing. Whos going to do the fighting. This is one thing i think the Senate Committee understands, that its not really the government thats going to win that war, its going to be other people. Like who . Other peers. Peer teenagers, muslim communities. Muslim communities really with the best place and the most credible voices. Senator, where are the solutions . This is a huge problem. Youre just beginning to directlydwell on it during the important hearing today. First of all, we need more mubin shaikhs. One of the things we found out from briefings people from the government who engaged in those communities have found out people in those communities think we have such perfect information as the federal government that we know who these young people are who are being radicalized. We dont. The fact of the matter, if you see something, you have to say something. We need everybody to be on the alert. Is that happening, though mubin . Because the senator makes a fair point. Yes, you have two sides. You have the cooperative members of the community who do want to do something, who understand these are their kids being taken, these are their parents that are going to end up on the front page of the paper. On the flip side, you have obstructionists in a saying organizations who say all the violent extremism is just an excuse to gather intelligence. You spoke, senator, earlier today about what you describe as a Rapid Response communications strategy. And possible legislation that would enable that. What are you driving at . Well we have to respond. Very quickly, we have to counter with the truth. Because the truth is this is going to be a losing organization. But right now, because isis isnt losing theyre perceived as winning. As long as theyre perceived as winning, theyll inspire this type of capability. Bureaucratic government doesnt move rapidly. Elected officials certainly have experience and campaigns with Rapid Response in a campaign. Weve got the technology. We invented the internet the social networks. Weve got the messaging capability. We need to start utilizing it. From my standpoint just an obvious piece of legislation. I think a number of members of our committee as well as designing some system that will work. The u. S. Second court of appeals today ruled the nsas bulk collection of phone data was illegal, it was never ordered by congress. As you know the provision in the patriot act that originally opened the door foot for the program set to expire on june 1. What do you think needs to happen now . Were going to be taking up that legislation in copping. Ngress. Theres a number of different proposals. One thing that came out of this hearing is understanding exactly how the online social medias used. First the connection is made. Thats open source. Once the members of isis or these other terrorist groups find committed jihadists that are willing to be recruited, they move offline to encrypted sites and go dark. So technologys moving at a speed where we cant keep up with it so were losing our capability along our first line of defense against islamic terror. That is effect intelligence gathering capability combined with robust congressional oversight and continuous monitoring. Weve got to maintain that delicate balance. Were actually losing capability of monitoring this to keep ourselves safe. Senator johnson, thanks for joining us. Thanks for chairing that hearing earlier today. Mubin, were going to keep you here. We have more to discuss. A closer look at the growing number of americans showing support for isis. Theyre mostly young. They come from a wide variety of backgrounds. How is isis becoming so suckcess successful in recruiting them . Later, an election with major implications for the british and indeed the rest of the world. Were going live to london. We got the new tempurflex and its got the spring and bounce of a traditional mattress. You sink into it, but you can still move it around. Now that i have a tempurflex, i can finally get a good nights sleep. When i flop down on the bed, and its just like, ah, this is perfect. Wherever you put your body it just supports you. Like little support elfs are just holding you. 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Nadirs mother for instance telling the wall street journal she learned back in january he bought an ak47. Soofi sent his mother dvds of the americanborn al qaeda preacher anwar al awlaki. The fact that awlaki was killed says sharon soofi, instigated a deeper passion for his teachings. Meanwhile, in new york Authorities Say they are homegrown wouldbe terrorists two women who allegedly planned to set off a bomb in the United States appeared in federal court today. They pled not guilty. The criminal complain accuses the women of supporting violent jihad. Prosecutors say they researched and bought materials to make bombs. The threat of homegrown terrorists is becoming an increasing concern for authorities here in the u. S. Lets get some more perspective. Joining us tom fuentes. Our cnn Law Enforcement analyst, former fbi assistant director. Phil mudd is a cnn antiterrorism analyst. Former cia. And mubin shaikh former jihadist counterterrorism operative who testified before the senate panel just a little while ago today. Lets talk about these two women in new york. What is the attraction of these Young American women to a group like isis . I think for a lot of individuals, its about identity and belonging. Theyve just plugged out to belonging to the whether its the american system british canadian and theyve decided to give their allegiance and internalize their commitment to groups like isis. Listen to senator Cory Booker Phil he was there at the hearing and hes talking about how effective these terrorists are using social media. The videos theyre doing are incredibly slick, fancy, and attractive. A bunch of extremist terrorists giving out things to kids. If you toggle back over to the United States and what were doing, here is the think and turn away website by the department of state. If you look if you know anything about social media, one of the things you should look is the engagement of people on our social media feeds and its laughable. Three retweets two retweets. Senator cory booker he knows social media, hes very active on social media. Theres a problem here isnt there . Its twofold. One is what is the message youre putting out there. The u. S. Government is not designed to put out messages to 20yearolds in iraq and syria. The question is not going to be whether the u. S. Government leads it. The question is what it enabled individuals, what mubin has mentioned earlier today. The second the second problem with this how then you collect this stuff on the back end. People in my old business are very cautious about going to twitter online when youre working in a cia office or fbi office and say, hey, im going to follow somebody. Thats american information from American Companies about an american individual. That still makes people nervous. The fbi i assume it does as well right . Absolutely same thing. Whats the solution here . Good question. I think the solution is when you do get cooperation from the community and they suggest an individual has become radicalized and maybe should be watched, as has happened in about 60 or 70 cases in the last year successfully intervened by the fbi and u. S. Authorities, follow that and just keep the Community Outreach going and hope that their peers and classmates and mentors and people in their Community Want to cooperate with the authorities. The government theres no video that the government can put out thats going to counteract the message of isis going out. Mubin, you were a jihadist at one point in your life. You converted, if you will. Youre now fighting them. Is there a solution here . Yes, i think we need to expand the options in the tool box. One of them should be a channel of sorts that doesnt criminalize individuals. I mean if youre going to lay charges for a 15yearold kid that parent is not going to pick up the phone and call the fbi especially if their kid is going to face a 15year prison sentence. Maybe we need to look at alternative measures nonprosecutorial that could maybe shift things. Is that realistic . I think so. The uk has learned a form of that channel. Canadas trying to work on that. Australia has Something Like that. This is a way for the government to interact with Community Leaders without necessarily secure securetizing it or going down the prosecutorial. This has happened in a few places overseas. There was a case in minneapolis recently where a federal judge sent the kid into what you might call a Rehab Program for ideology. Heres the problem. If you have lets say, 30 of those kids going back into the movement which wouldnt be a surprise in the world of violent crime, we acknowledge that in america. We have not accepted that in the United States. The first kid who goes back after a federal Rehab Program and gets involved in violence people are going to be up in arms. Theres got to be for a 16yearold, 17yearold, a middle ground between being go home to your mom and federal prison. In malaysia they think its very successful, but as phil mentions and its a good point, its got to be successful 100 of the time in this country. If one person repeats what he did before then everybody is going to be outraged and say the program doesnt work. Even this elton simpson, he was given threeyears probation, never served then he drives with his friend nadir soofi, drives to dallas and does what he does there. People are wondering, a Second Chance is that really going to pay off . Thats a problem, right . What happens is the only option left is monitor the individuals. Thats not a society you want to live in. Its not realistic. Theres too many people out there. I think what needs to be done is possibly make it easier to convict individuals. Doesnt need to be a drawn out, long drawnout process where we give them all the chances they want and then go and do it anyway. Well continue this conversation. Well hear about a new law that many are calling heavily intrusive. Lawmakers say its necessary to track potential terrorists. The panel continues the conversation right after this. You total your brand new car. Nobodys hurt,but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do, drive threequarters of a car . Now if you had a Liberty Mutual new car replacement, youd get your whole car back. I guess they dont want you driving around on three wheels. Smart. New car replacement is just one of the features that come standard with a base Liberty Mutual policy. And for drivers with accident forgivness,rates wont go up due to your first accident. Learn more by calling switch to Liberty Mutual and you can save up to 423. 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We were talking earlier, there was a specific case of a young woman who was on twitter tweeting all sorts of stuff and you intervened and got involved. Tell us about that. This was an American Girl in the state of washington. Convert. A convert to islam . A convert to islam. I said earlier you converted to jihadist. I didnt mean to suggest you converted from islam to another religion. Youre still a muslim. Yes. Youre no longer a jihadist. Go ahead. Right, thank you for that. She had been seen talking to extremeist recruiters online. Some individuals tagged me in a tweet and said maybe you should talk to her. I engaged her at the micro level. A number of what does that mean you engaged her insert myself into the conversation that was happening. She saw i was being tagged into the tweet. Started to have conversations with her publicly and in direct messaging to explain what are these verses they use because they abuse and mutilate the scriptures. As we went on and on i convinced her, look what these people are saying is wrong. They were telling her how they love her, they want to marry her. Shes a vulnerable girl. I explained to her, listen these people are predators. Theyre there just to lure you over and ruin you when you get over there. It sounds like a fabulous one example, mubin may have saved this young womans life in this particular case, but we need a lot of mubins in order to do this. The u. S. Government should be an enabler. As a former Government Official the governor feels like since we have so much capability and responsibility people like me have to testify in front of congress. We have to solve every problem. We cannot solve this problem it youve got to go into community, minneapolis, seattle, los angeles, new york and say whos around people like mubin who can engage. Maybe provide training maybe provide funding. If we Say Department xyz in the government has to lead this that to me complete failure. Its not going to work. You agree . Also wolf the fbi isnt trying to arrest every Single Person that says they want to join. There have been several of these cases. Theyve gone to the family. Theyve gone to the person. You see the fbi has interviewed them. Weve heard you want to do this and talk them out of it. In one case the 19yearold girl from denver a year ago this wanted to join they want to her parents, they went with her to her parents and fbi agents followed her on the jetway to get on the airplane and said please dont get on this plane. They finally take her. So theyre not trod in prosecute prosecuting every one of these cases, they would like better than to talk people out of it and get them on a different path. The government can come up with every website and message they want to do. Its the mubins of the world that are going to change their pints and not the u. S. Government videos that are produced. The social media activity, its almost all in english, right, its not in arabic or some other language . Especially the western foreign fighters. Its overwhelmingly english. Theyre very good at this. The people who are for doing this for isis or al qaeda or al shabab or any of these other terror groups . There are products of the western system itself. So they understand the Popular Culture. You see this a lot, references to Popular Culture in isis tweets. The videos they put out were screen grabs taken from grand theft auto. They know how to use the Popular Culture. We when i say we we invented all this stuff, phil the social media, all these forms, whether its facebook or twitter, anything else we cant compete with them is that that sounds crazy to me. In some ways we cant compete because the speed with which this is changing is too fast for the slow government. When we started, the al qaeda program, post9 11, you had a few guys egyptians, yemenis, arabs, south asian, involved in leadership of al qaeda. A couple americans maybe messaging on al jazeera. Now more than a decade later, thousands of people talking in native languages across not the media we knew even 15 years ago but across youtube, twitter. Having been a Government Official i can tell you the speed of that revolution the world of terror is something i dont think the government is suited to accommodate. Any media the United States needs to do now . We need to be smarter. The fbi right now is still reeling from sequestration. They have not recovered from the number of analysts and linguists they had to stop hiring because of sequestration. The forced budget cuts. You cant have a hiring program on and off like a water faucet. They estimate about a 20 reduction in the manpower they should have that theyve lost because of that. People dont think of that when we have these political stunts happen. We got to leave it on that note. Political stunts. Weve often left our conversations on that note. Mubin, thanks for coming in. Tom fuentes, phil mudd. Across the United Kingdom, people are going to polls in an election that could change their country for years to come and also have some major worldwide implications. Were going live to london when we come back. Getting older shouldnt mean giving up all the things she loves to do. It should just mean, well, finding new ways to do them. Right at homes professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to provide help with personal care, housekeeping, and of course, meal preparation. Oh, that smells so good. Aw, and it tastes good, too. We can provide the right care, right at home. This allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. A mouth breather well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. 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I think thats had an impact. The perception is turnout has been high. People here know this is an important election. And the expectation is that turnout will be higher than weve seen in the last couple of elections. We were here at this polling station almost 12 hours ago when the doors opened. There were a group of people standing outside. Its been a fairly steady stream. Of course people are coming out of their offices, theyre on their way home and were seeing the turnout pickup here at the moment. Weve seen the leaders of the parties, david cameron, the conservative party, he voted in his oxford constituency. Ed miliband voted north of england, the leader of the opposition there. Southeast corner of england, the uk independence party, financial farage he came out to vote. The liberal democrat party, he voted in sheffield. Nicholas sturgeon of the National Party voted up in glass go earlier on in the day as well. Also the Green Party Leader the green party, nicollette bennett, she voted, natalie bennett, rather she voted in london early in the it a as well. All the leaders have been keen to get out early in the day as well. When can we start seeing how the vote is shaking out . You know wolf the polls close here 3 1 2 hours from now. And within about an hour in 10 to 12 minutes of the poll within less than an hour of the polls closing, were told the first seat could be called. The reality is this is close. This polling station here the last elections, the gap between the two leading parties was just 42 votes. The expectation is before the results are in it could be some time late friday. But the first results were coming in by about 11 00 p. M. Local time tonight. The first results will be coming in. Carrying on through the night. Of course after you get results in then the real sort of landscaper the new Political Landscape for the uk will begin to come clear, wolf. Stick with cnn for extensive and complete live coverage. Thanks very much for that Nic Robertson in london. Still ahead, big money versus big money. How super pacs are shaping the race for the white house in 2016. Our Political Team standing by to take a closer look at the candidates. Courting that small pool of very high donor dollars. Youre driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom youve had your first accident. Now you have to make your first claim. So you talk to your Insurance Company and. Boom youre blindsided for a second time. They wont give you enough money to replace your brand new car. Dont those people know youre already shaken up . Liberty mutuals new car replacement will pay for the entire value of your car plus depreciation. Call and for drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. 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Past candidates have been reluctant to endorse superpacs but i guess thats history, right . President obama was the biggest idea. He talked for years about how he didnt like the superpacs then suddenly game in in 2011. I remember it very well when he decided to start speaking out for them. Hillary clintons been kam paining since the very beginning over the last month saying we need to limit the amount of money in politics but now she is in fact speaking out, urging these wealthy donor to give to her. Shes in los angeles today for three big fundraisers. Shell be talking to some of those big donors. Explain for viewers who dont know what a superpac is. Allows you to write as big of a check as you want to fund to help elect the candidate. You cant work with the campaign. Its sort of like a big brother to help you on the side to kind of help all the efforts so they cant work in coordination but they work separately. Its a very murky law. It has been around for this is the second president ial election cycle, and shes not alone, republicans are out there doing this in huge numbers. Its all because of that Citizens United Supreme Court decision a few years ago. If youre a billionaire, you can give as much money as you want . Thats right. You can give 100 million if you wanted to do it because theres no limit. And thats one of the reasons were told why jeb bush the republican arguably the frontrunner maybe hes not running why hes delaying his official announcement because yes, because he can raise this unlimited amount of money until he gets in. Theyve set a figure Hillary Clinton, 300 million, they feel like they can raise 100 million for jeb bushs team . For jeb bushs team in advance of him getting into this thing. Could be june could be july. They want to wait as long as they can because they want to get these unlimited funds. If youre a grassroots donor or activist on the ground you might feel like hey, whys this guy sitting on the sideline why isnt he in this thing . In some ways Hillary Clinton ran into this problem as well donors saying we want to see her out there, we want to see what the product looks like before we put some big money in. But for now, hes waiting. Hes going to be able to rake in huge amounts of money but also people like marco rubio who are in the race are able to say, listen im not waiting on the sidelines, im a sure thing right now, why dont you invest in my candidacy. Vermont senator sanders announced hes running against clinton for the democratic president ial nomination. He was here with me last week right after his announcement. He said hes not going to play that game hes not going to support want any money from those superpacs, he doesnt want any of those billionaires hes got a strong position against that kind of fundraising. But impressively hes raised 3 million over the last few days alone. It is impressive without question. He is speaking to what the left side of this Democratic Party wants. Hes filling in a vacuum thats sort of been created pie Elizabeth Warren and hes done very well in online fundraising. Its surprised the clinton folks. This is coming in in small dollar increments average of 43. So that is going to take him a long way. Reminds me of another vermont president ial candidate howard dean in 2004, he did very well with these small dollar contribution contributions. Of course theres a limit to that. He cant ever raise as much as her. Hes had a great week ever since he appeared on your show. A lot of these candidates they say they tonight want to unilaterally disarm. If theyre opponents, their rivals are raising these kinds of funds we used to hear bill clinton say that as well and others and president obama when he was raising unlimited funds basically. They dont want to unilaterally disarm. That was the argument in 2011 that maybe we dont like the rules, maybe we want to so the law changed, but in the meantime now that these are the rules, were going to play by the rules and benefit from the rules to even the Playing Field because republicans certainly dont play by the rules, have been able to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for these superpacs. A lot of very rich people with a lot of money. I asked Bernie Sanders if george soras, for example, whos a left wing fundraiser, if he were to come up with a huge sum of money, would you take that he said no. Hes got a principle position. See if it stays like that. All right, guys thanks very much. Still ahead, theres breaking news coming into cnn from yemen. Weve got the details when we come back. Vo todays the day. More and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about longacting levemir®. As my diabetes changed it got harder to control my blood sugar. 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Sneakers rolling off Assembly Lines in a south korea factory with north korea workers. When we started doing business here we had 300 employees. Now we have 3,000, says the manager. Shed like to hire 2,000 more but she cant. This factory and more than 100 others in the kasong Industrial Complex, caught in the middle of a showdown between the south and north just miles from their heavily armed border. There was so much hope at this historic summit in 2000. A landmark deal between pyongyang and seoul. South korean businesses on north korean soil. One of them the mt. Kungong tourist region closed after a Security Guard shot and killed a wandering tourist in 08. Today the Industrial Complex remains open but planned expansion has been frozen for five years. In 2010 south korea accused the north of torpedoing their navy ship killing 46 sailors. In response south korea stopped all new investment in keasong, leaving the Industrial Complex half empty and businesses with no way to expand. Because of the re strix s we cant fill ordered, she says. Every morning, and every evening, 270 buses help transport 52,000 North Koreans back and forth to work. These buses stopped for several months in 2013 escalating tensions led north korea to pull all the workers out. The crisis triggered by north korean anger over joint military exercises between south korea and the United States. Now a new dispute over worker pay is threatening business again. Wages are paid directly to pyongyang. North korean complex managers are demanding a wage increase of 4 a month. We believe the attitude of the government is hurting the lives of the workers here he says. South korea objects to a wage hike saying the north is going around the rules by unilaterally declaring a minimum wage without consulting with the south. At risk the last remaining symbol of interkorean cooperation and the livelihoods of tens of thousands of workers and their families. Political disagreements between the north and the south are not supposed to affect the activities the daily activities at the kaesong Industrial Complex. Thats clearly not the case. As this very very Shaky Partnership continues to pose problems well that also sends a greater message about the problems on the korean peninsula, which remains very deeply divided. Wolf . Will ripley getting rare access inside north korea. Hes filing for us every day. Much more coming up tomorrow. Just ahead, breaking news in the war on trough. A senior al qaeda operative in the Arabian Peninsula kill by a u. S. Drone strike. Were going live to the middle east after this quick break. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts 800,000 hours of supercomputing time 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. Whether its building the worlds most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. At boeing, one thing never changes. 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Reporter well wolf in short, al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsulas media wing have released a reasonably lengthy eulogy in which they announced death of a senior al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula commander. Hes familiar to many of you, i think, because hes the man who gave the lengthy statement after the paris attacks in which al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula claims that the kouachi brothers were working with them. They claimed responsibility for those attacks. He was also a man who was the spokesman over the kidnapping of journalist luke summers. So a familiar face kill by a drone strike. My colleague Barbara Starr says american officials confirm thats the case as well. We are looking to work out the details of when this strike occurred. In the last two to three weeks. It was clear one drone strike killed a number of relatively senior figures in yemen. They were thought to be part of the media wing. What is obviously important here wolf is given that yemen is in such great turmoil now, where we have this civil war between the houthis and loyalists alongside the former president battling those loyalists of the current president , hadi and saudi air power in the skies bombing the houthis as well. It appears that has not at this stage diminished the u. S. s ability to hit key aqap targets. Were not sure when this particular death occurred. We do know its from a drone strike according to aqaps media wing. Despite the fact the u. S. No longer have an embassy, we saw it closed back in early february they are still able it seems, to continually prosecute their war against aqap in yemen itself. Its interesting as you point out that the aqap video was released by their spokesman. Their spokesman is actually a canadian. The secretary of state, john kerry, hes in saudi arabia today. Now the saudis are calling for what they say would be a fiveday seaverceasefire to allow International Aid workers to get into yemen. How significant would that be . Reporter well it would potentially mark maybe the end to violence there, but an awful lot is riding on the ifs in that statement we saw from the saudis backed by john kerry. They basically lay the potential of the ceasefire at the feet of the houthis. They say theyve extended the possibility for a fiveday window that would be renewed. The saudis saying theyll announce later when that date will begin. Theyre going to meet in paris with other gulf states tomorrow. They say they want a few days for the Aid Community to be able to get their shipments ready. That all depends on the fractured alliance of militia who dont always speak off the same page laying down their weapons at the same time. The saudis dont just want a cessation of fire, they want a cessation of movement of weapons, pretty much a complete stop on the side of the houthis for this ceasefire to be in effect. A key quote from their foreign minister if it doesnt happen everywhere it will happen nowhere. So everything really resting on the houthis. Theres a lot of sequencing involved. What may happen if that ceasefire comes into play there could be a conference in ten days in riyadh in which the saudis will invite all parties involved in yemen. Early signs the houthis arent interested in that particular conversation. But if a ceasefire does come into play that could reduce the massive humanitarian toll were now seeing and allow aid in medicine food to a country thats been rocked by this air campaign and violence on the ground for weeks. Wolf . Nick paton walsh on the ground for us in beirut. We heard the call to prayer behind you coming in from that mosque. Nick thanks very very much. Thats it for me. 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