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Polo sandoval is near the Canadian Border where sweat was captured. Jean casarez is at the courthouse where a guard from the prison that sweat and richard matt broke out of will face charges related to the escape and our own sara ganim is outside the hospital where officials are talking to david sweat. Sara what do we know about sweats condition and what is he telling authorities . Good afternoon wolf. So first his condition was updated just about an hour ago from critical which is where he came in last night, in Critical Condition, to serious. Hospital officials saying that his wounds did not require surgery but he will be staying here and will be monitored for a few more days. Now he is apparently talking to authorities, a source telling cnn that he is talking to police about what their plan was. He told authorities they were supposed to get into a car with prison seamstress joyce mitch who will they befriended who has been charged with helping them escape escape they were going to go to mexico. When she didnt show up that night they had to begin walking on their own. Hes telling authority he is ditched his partner about five days ago because he was slowing him down. We know from other sources that richard matt had fallen ill in the last couple of days of their walk there through that very rough terrain. I want to talk to wolf about the security at this hospital behind me where david sweat is. It is equipped with their own trained professionals, trained Security Team and he is being monitored not just by Law Enforcement officials but also by the hospital staff that is treating him, wolf. Stand by i want to go to constable, new york. Polo sandoval is on the scene for us there david sweat as you know is very close less than two miles from crossing into canada. How close was he actually to getting away before that trooper singlehandedly stopped him . That was a major concern out here wolf, with the scene that played out. A very dramatic one at the conclusion of this manhunt. Were told that that trooper, that new york state trooper jay cook was on patrol along the road im standing on and noticed a suspicious individual who he would identify as david sweat, made contact with him. Thats when david sweat made a break for the treeline you see in the distance. Theres a couple of on lookers that have made their way out here. Eventually making his way to that tree line. Two concerns the Police Sergeant had on his mind which was one sweat was wearing camouflaged clothing. They made it into that dense wooded area and he could lose the lead the other concern as you mentioned, wolf only about another mile and a half beyond that treeline is the u. S. Canadian Border. So that was another concern that he had. So as a result this Police Sergeant drew his weapon took aim, fired a couple shots, two hitting david sweat in the back. So those are the two shots that were the beginning of the end for this manhunt that had so many people on the edge here. Today there is the sense of normalcy that dominates the street in upstate new york so thats exactly what the people who lived a nightmare for the last three weeks wanted . If he could have gotten to those trees he might have disappeared. Polo stand by. Investigators are hoping to learn much more about how david sweat and richard matt actually broke out of prison and how much help they received. Today gene palmer, a guard from the Clinton Correctional Facility hes in court. Our own jean casarez is standing by. Walk us through whats about to happen. What is he accused of jean . Hes got actually three felony charges and one misdemeanor charges. One felony is promoting prison contraband. Two felonies are tampering with physical evidence and then official misconduct. Is right here at the court, this is a Township Court in plattsburgh, new york. This is the first court you go to. This is called a Court Appearance today so i think anything is possible. We know he has a brand new turn out of Albany William drier whos been practicing criminal law for 40 years. But as far as the facts, gene palmer when he had his first lawyer, he met with officials and he really said a lot of things this attorney may not appreciate at this point. But he admitted he had taken the screwdriver and the pliers from the outside into Clinton Correctional Facility four different times for matt and sweat. He also admitted he received paintings. But more than that after they had gone missing it was found, allegedly, that he had burned them and buried them and, of course legally theres prosecutors will say thats a consciousness of guilt action you knew you should havent the paintings so you tried to dispense with them. Of course, this will be litigated in a court of law but three felonies one misdemeanor and, by the way, that there are more charges against him than Joyce Mitchell who allegedly was plotting to take them the mexican border. Still a lot of questions that have to be answered and lets sons learned as well. Gene i want you to stand by as well. The hunt may be over but the investigation clearly in its still early stage this morning. We heard more details from the new York Governor Andrew Cuomo who spoke about what david sweat was carrying when he was caught. He had a bag with him that had a number of supplies. He had maps he had certain amount of tooshlgsls bug repellent, wipes. He had poptarts. We want to find out where they got them was that planned before . Did he acquire that after his escape . So we still want theres an Ongoing Investigation to find out how they did this and the extent of cooperation they received from the people in the prison. Governor of new york. Joining us now is tim williams, the former chief inspector for the new York New Jersey funggitive task force and former director of operation for interpol. David sweat was spotted jogging or running along a road. Seems like a major mistake for someone who stayed hidden for some three weeks. What did you make of that . Pretty surprising. They did a good job staying in the shadows and i think it was kind of spraysing. But it shows they were desperate at that time. He was desperate. They separated for a few days so is certainly very close to the boarder there so very interesting. Usually these guys supposedly were moving at night is when it was dark not necessarily during the day, a major blunder on his part. As you know sweat has already told investigators that the original plan for these who killers was to try to get to mexico but their getaway driver, Joyce Mitchell whos now been arrest arrested did not necessarily cooperate and show up and help them. Does it seem like they had a plan b . It doesnt seem that way. You would think with the sophistication of that escape that everyone has commented on you thought they would have had a better plan b. So i dont think they lad that and they were lucky they were that terrain out there that they were able to stay on the lam for 23 days. Weve also learned richard matt was ill, smelled of alcohol when he was shot and killed by the police last friday. Sweat told investigators that matt was actually slowing him down so he split off. Why do you think he waited so long to split off . Well i think they were probably a team. I thought theyd be good together and had a plan from the beginning but i think once that does happen on occasion where they split because its just better to go their separate ways because people are really looking. I think the pressure from Law Enforcement, the great team work, the great effort that was made on the Law Enforcement on this case i think was really putting pressure on them and they felt the pressure. Tim williams thanks very much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. So what will david sweat tell authorities . You can be sure investigators will want to hear every detail about the daring prison escape. But will he tell them everything . Will he hold back crucial details . Can you believe a word this guy says in and what happens now . Very very far away in at thence doesnt necessarily stay in athens. While greeces time in the eurozone could be ending it could just be starting in international markets. Second of the two escape murderers is back in custody after he ran from a prison. He told authorities he was on his own for several days before fugitive richard matt was gunned down. A course close to the investigation tells cnn sweat has told authorities matt was actually slowing him down. Lets discuss whats going on with our Law Enforcement analyst, former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and defense attorney scott boulden, thanks very much for joining us. These prosecutors, scott, say no plea deals with sweat right now. This guy is going to go back spend rest of his life in jail, presumably in solitary i assume. What incentive will he have, though, to talk tell authority what is actually happened . Well getting out of solitary confinement would be significant. Here hes facing life without parole or serving a sentence of life without parole already. So remember he could easily be charged with a class d felony, escaping from prison as well as promoting contraband in prison. The government has a choice as to whether to charge him or not, but its almost a moot issue at this point and so his incentive would be getting out of solitary con fine withment but also because of his ego and narcissism he could want to tell. If he was smart he wouldnt tell hes a young man, he s 30 years old. He may try this again. I hope he doesnt but thats a possibility. Guys who are desperate and have been through what theyve been through, its more of a relief and they talk either because of their ego or stress. You need sophisticated interrogators, fbi has good ones as you well know who can go in there and get this guy to talk. Not only talk but tell them the truth because this guy is a liar. You never know what hell say. Wolf they can verify things whether he says to them are true or not true. Now as scott mentioned the most important key to this is his ego. Typically, sociopaths like this guy are very narcissistic. They want everybody the world revolves around them. They want the world to know what they did, a sophisticated interrogator will play to that. Oh you werent really the mastermind matt was. You werent really important, he was. He did this he did that. Oh no no i did it. I did. Narcissism is all about me. Its a selfish trait and these guys have it to the extreme where the whole world is only about themselves. Is he going to have an attorney present for all these conversations with authorities now . Hes certainly entitled to it if he asks for it. Hes been read his rights already. Hes been charged presumably. But hes entitled to a lawyer but he doesnt necessarily have to have one. The real key here is what the police want to know. Its not so much how he broke out with the tools because they can trace that. Theyre really interested in who helped them so they can improve their Security System but also charge people inside the prison and outside the prison who gave comfort and support for them because they could havent done this alone. The problem is he could have maybe hated one or two or three of these guards and he could say just to try to get some guard in trouble who was totally innocent because he hated this guard he could say well john smith, he helped me a lot and stuff like that. Thats true. So he could smear people that have no right to be smeared. Absolutely. They wont base any prosecution of a corrections officer or any other employee or anybody on the outside unless they can verify it corroborate it get independent evidence. Nobody will be prosecuted based on anything he tses if thats all he got. If he says he wants an attorney, the attorney presumably will tell him shut up dont say a word, well try to negotiate better terms for you, maybe not necessarily solitary confinement 23 hours a day which presumably hes going to get for more years down the road. Any good criminal defense attorney would tell him lets negotiate something, right . Absolutely. And stop talking. And what we dont know is how much he said already because, again, if he said everything just because the media is reporting a snippet of that then that will define how the if he was in Critical Condition he couldnt have been talking too much, right . When they showed the pictures of him sitting up i thought this guy is in great shape. Hes a little pale he lost a little weight, so what . They wouldnt have been sitting him up in that position if they thought he was on his deathbed. But the doctors described him as Critical Condition. Now hes in serious condition. Theyve upgrade bud they say he was in Critical Condition. Well, the level of dehydration and other factors may have been severe enough but i dont think the Bullet Wounds were critical in my opinion but im not a doctor. Im assuming hell be in solitary confinement, 23 hours a day by himself, maybe one hour a day a walk in a courtyard but thats it . Not even a courtyard. Theyll have a dog pen that they can walk within this little kennel type facility and back into their cell. All right, guys thanks very very much. Thank you for having me. Coming up well move on to other major news were following. Samesex marriage now legal in the entire United States. But that hasnt stopped some gop president ial hopefuls from promising to fight the Supreme Court decision. Even if it means rejecting the law. And a looming question for democrats. Will the Vice President , joe biden, make his own run for the white house . Theres now some buzz about a possible biden bid. That buzz getting louder. Find out why. Thats coming up. Effects. Hey honey. Huh. The good news is my hypertension is gone. So why would you invest without checking brokercheck . Check your broker with brokercheck. [music] jackies heart attack didnt come with a warning. Today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. If youve had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Lets get to president ial politics right now and renewed speculation about whether the Vice President , joe biden, will actually enter the 2016 race for the white house. According to the wall street journal, bidens son beau urged him to run before he passed away last month from brain cancer. The newspaper says bidens son hunter is also in favor of his dad waging another president ial campaign. Lets discuss whats going on with our senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny and chief political analyst gloria borger. Youve been doing reporting, gloria, what do you hear from your sources . Well i have one source close to biden and this source said to derive from the last month that joe biden is in a better frame of mind to think about a president ial run is completely incorrect. This man is in mourning in pain suffered a great loss. Trying to get people back to work. There are people who would love to see joe biden run but he is probably in less of a position to run today than he was a month ago. This is somebody who is clearly in mourning and as this source said to me there are a lot of people out there blowing smoke at biden right now. One of the reasons the wall street journal cited this that the speculation is increasing if in fact both of his sons said dad we think you should run for the white house the wall street journal noted Bernie Sanders running against Hillary Clinton is doing well in these polls, especially in new hampshire. Theyre saying if 373yearold Bernie Sanders could do well against Hillary Clinton, maybe 72yearold joe biden could do well against Hillary Clinton. Theres definitely a segment of the Democratic Party looking for competition and someone more progressive than Hillary Clinton. Joe biden is not Bernie Sanders in any respect. I mean in a positive way. Gloria is right in terms of what theyre thinking. I talked to someone close to the biden family and they said the sons gave him permission if he wants to. Dont sit on the sidelines because of me. That doesnt mean hell run. But there is an opening in the Democratic Party right now for a conversation, thats why Bernie Sanders is within eight points of Hillary Clinton. This is on the Progressive Left wing of the party. This doesnt mean theres necessarily an opening for joe biden even if he wasnt grieving right now. He hasnt done anything wolf. There is no joe biden president ial pac and i think the feeling was this if Hillary Clinton somehow faltered in a huge way that joe biden would be on the sidelines. But join the club. John kerry is out there on the sidelines also. So i dont think theres any change right now. Heres whats intriguing in that wall street journal story, jeff. There is this Draft Biden Movement very small out there but theyre saying they have not been discouraged from the biden folks about going forward. If he didnt want to run he could easily say im not running, im serving out my vice presidency but hes leaving open that door a little bit, the silence on his part that hes not denying it is sometimes very telling. It is. And why not. He deserves the respect of us discussing whether he might run for president. Joe biden deserves that. Hes run a couple other times before. But his silence is in many cases were talking to people who have similar views of this if something would happen to Hillary Clinton if she would have a health episode, if she would have a political calamity we cant think about yes he would consider getting in so why would he send a signal now hes not interested . He does not have to do that. Its not necessary. But this Draft Biden Movement wellintentioned people but not sanctioned i would say. And i had a source who said to me today that, look, this puts joe biden in a box because he doesnt want to address this. At some point hell have to address it maybe later this summer. In august. In august. Who knows . But it does its not what hes thinking about right now. We have to remember this mans grief at this moment and i think we saw it when he went to the ame church over the weekend. This is a man who has other things on his mind. Hes obviously going through a serious mourning period right now. Although his aides have said hell make a formal announcement one way or the other by august given the nature of the democratic debates which are going to be happening, if there are some, in the fall. Well see what happens on that front. Guys thanks very very much. Republican reaction to the u. S. Supreme court ruling on samesex marriage ranges from acceptance to anger. While supporters celebrated the celebrated outside the high court, some president ial candidates promise a new fight for what they call religious liberty. Listen to what louisiana governor bobby jindal said on nbcs meet the press. Here wheres the next fight is going. I think the left is now going to go after our First Amendment rights. I think its wrong for the federal government to force christian individuals, businesses pastors, churches, to participate in wedding ceremonies that violate our sincerely held religious believes. We have to stand up and fight for religious liberty. Thats where this fight is going. Our cnn political commentator ana navarro is joining us and the author sofia nelson is joining us. Theyre republicans but they have different views on the Supreme Court ruling. Ana, first to you. What do you think of the republican shift to a fight over religious liberty that several of those republican president ial candidates are now suggesting . Wolf, i think the first thing we need to point out is that we shouldnt paint all republicans with one broad brush. As youve said, theres a division amongst republicans and if you look at the statistics people my age, republicans my age who are under 49 have over 43 of Approval Rating for gay marriage. If youre even younger, if you are under 30 the Approval Rating amongst republicans is 61 . So yes we have seen theres a variation in the way that people have reacted. Some people i can tell you from a personal point of view i was full of celebration, there was joy in my heart. So many of my gay friends are going to be legitimized in a way they so want to be. Land in a political perspective i hope republicans can move on. Though i recognize that the religious freedom issue is a legitimate question and, yes, its a battle that is just beginning. What do you think, sofia . Because im told you have a dissenting view on this Supreme Court 54 decision rooted in your faith. What would you like to see happen now . Well two thing, wolf. I think last week on measure was just a bad week for the go gop on all issues of diversity, whether it was the Confederate Flag whether it was gay marriage, whether it was the horrible massacre in charleston and dealing with the conversation around race and i think this one caught them flat footed. I think for me and for many millions of christians in this country we werent pleased with the ruling as a matter of faith because, as you know, whether youre a christian swrujewish or muslim your faith teaches that samesex marriage homosexuality and a litany of other issues and sins by the way, arent acceptable. So i think that for us it was not a happy day. Attorney admitted to the Supreme Court of the United States bar i think it was decided the right way on the merits of the law under the equal protection clause so i can be a mature enough adult and i think those in the Republican Party who share my view are going to have to look at this kind of as a split decision if you will on yes, it may be against my faith principles but on the merits of the law the corporate probably reached the right decision. So basically what youre saying sophia is you agree with the more moderate republicans like jeb bush for example who are saying its the law of the land live with it as opposed to the bobby jindals, the mike huckabee, the ted cruz as a way to fight this . Is that right, sophia . I think what Governor Jindal said was ridiculous. Lets get rid of the Supreme Court. You cant get rid of the Supreme Court, its written into the constitution. The Republican Party will have to do something very different headed into 2016 and into their own Party Platform and howe theyre going make that up. Are they going to make gay marriage an issue in that platform . Are they going to leave it alone . I think if they continue to bumble on issues of race, the race discussion around diversity, around issues of gay and gay marriage i think the party will have a real difficulty in 2016 reach inging the centrist voter like a Sophia Nelson and others. Ana, i know youre a republican i know you like jeb bush. What would you like them to say specifically on the issue of gay marriage . I was happy. I thought he had a conciliatory tone. He is against the underlying issue of gay marriage. Its something on which we disagree which is fine. I dont have the expectation that im going agree with one politician or another on 100 of the issues. But i think he was responsible in his tone. I was disappointed with scott walker calling for a constitutional amendment which he knows is absolutely completely utterly unrealistic. I was disappointed with former Rhodes Scholar for gods sakes, bobby jindal an incredibly smart man casually non lyly nonthat lontly of calling for the dismantling of the Supreme Court. I think responsible people need to look for pragmatism and Common Ground and we need to find a way so that religious freedom in gay marriage can coexist. We are a diverse country. We are a democratic country. We are a pragmatic country. Let us resist the to your knowledge politicize and polarize this issue and let us look for that sliver of Common Ground. Ana navarro, Sophia Nelson thanks for joining us. When we come back major news overseas that could have a huge impact here in the United States. Greece is now perched on the edge of economic catastrophe. U. S. Markets could though feel the pain as well. That means stocks bonds, even your 401 k s, they could be getting ready to take a hit. Well have a live report from wall street when we come back. No artificial flavors, colors sweeteners preservatives, and no artificial smiles. Because clean dressings, taste better. Panera. Food as it should be. Listen up. Im reworking the menu. Mayo, corn dogs. You are so out of here ahh. The complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. With nine grams of protein. And 26 vitamins and minerals. Ensure. Take life in. Did you know that the tripadvisor youve always trusted for reviews, book now checks over 200 websites to find the best price . Book. Book. Book so dont just visit tripadvisor. Book at tripadvisor. Markets around the world,er in down right now. It comes after a flareup of the debt crisis in greece. That country is scheduled to make a massive debt payment tomorrow 1. 7 billion to be exact. The problem is that the government doesnt have the must be to make the payment. Bracing for panic, greece has closed its stock market and its banks until july 6. And if you want money from that atm over there, you can only take out about 67 a day. The fears over the debt crisis have now trickled down to u. S. Markets. Lets bring in alison kosik over at the new york stock exchange. So first of all, allison, how will the u. S. Markets reacting . Wolf, weve seen the selloff and the dow pick up as the day has gone on. We see the dow down 227 points. This is despite the fact that the u. S. Has very limited direct exposure to greece. I mean think about it greece has had this financial crisis going on for many years and what youve seen happen, at least for many investors, especially here in the u. S. Theyve taken their investments out of greece so they dont have that kind of exposure. But i think the selloff here is more related to the fact that what were entering here is unchartered territory. What would the Global Implications be if greece doesnt pay its bills. It doesnt pay its debts. What would be the ramifications if greece were to leave the European Union . Its that uncertainty, that fear that youre seeing play out in the markets today as you know what kind of shock waves could greece cause to the u. S. And a lot of that is unanswered at this point, wolf. You make a good point. There could be in the short term a much greater impact negative impact on the european market. The eurozone as its called. If that market is hurting, that would have a spillover effect on the u. S. Market and it could impact a lot of americans, right . Exactly. But actually what youre seeing in the european markets is much more blunted, believe it or not, than what was expected because as one Goldman Sachs analyst put it he said that europe is actually better prepared this time around than lets say in 2011 and 2012 when we were in this pretty much this exact situation with greece before. It was facing an exit in 2011 with 2012. The difference now is that youre seeing european banks, theyre in better shape. Also greek debt is no longer widely held so youre seeing those couple of things really put constraints on how wide this crisis could really grow and so if its not going to hip europe as hard as lets say it could have a few years ago, you may not see it hit the u. S. As hard either. Wolf . The white house clearly concerned. The president s been on the phone with Francois Hollande of france and Angela Merkel of germany talking about this greek debt crisis. Alison thanks very much. Coming up well show you brand new video taken during that deadly terror attack at a tunisian beach. Plus just how involved was isis in this terror attack . We have new information. Breaking news. Two more americans have been arrested and charged with conspiring to support isis. One is a 21yearold from new jersey the other a 23yearold from the same state. Both are accused of plotting to provide services and personnel to isis both were arrested as part of a wider investigation. In the last few months dozens of americans have been picked up have been arrested accused of supporting isis and it comes just as the u. S. Secretary of Homeland Security jeh johnson is warning of possible possible isisrelated threats around the upcoming july 4 Independence Day weekend here in the United States. The first arrests were made today in connection with last weeks deadly attack at a tunisian tourist resort. At least 38 people were killed when a lone gunman opened fire on the beach. This is new video taken during assault. The majority of the victims were british tourists. Officials say german and french tourists were also killed. Tunisias interior minister says the first group has been arrested and claimed they were part of the gunmans network. Joining us now is cnn terrorism analyst Paul Cruickshank. Also joining us retired Lieutenant Colonel james reese, our cnn Global Affairs analyst. Colonel reese, isis claiming responsibility for this brutal attack in tunisia. Theres apparently no direct evidence of that. What do you make of this isis claim . Wolf, we each watched for months now. Isis will try to be the first one on the propaganda tour to show support for these lone wolfes that are out there and try to keep this wave of momentum and excitement involved with isis. And as weve seen before these people start, weve gene in tunis and algeria across the northern aspects of north africa where the isis influence is strong right now but, you know fortunately for us its not isisdriven but unfortunate the tunisians have this in an area 1245 15 of their gdp is concerned with tourism. That tourism is going to be hurting as a result of this. Paul why tunisia . Why this hotel . We know isis has a presence in neighboring libya, but tunisias been relatively peaceful obviously moderate. Well relatively peaceful, wolf. But of course we had that deadly attack just a few months ago against the bardo museum in tunis, isis claimed responsibility for that as well. I think this time around the isis claim, the local chapter of isis claim is credible because they put a picture up of the gunman just a few minutes after the attack and the family has confirmed that thats one in the same gunman. So i think it is a credible claim from isis. The group is stepping up its attacks across the region during ramadan. We also saw that deadly attack in kuwait on friday. I think theres real real concern were entering a period of maximum danger now over the next three weeks of ramadan with isis spokesman last week saying to isis supporters all around the world if you die for us during ramadan, youll get ten times the refwhardswards in paradise. I think theres significant concern not just in the middle east but also here in europe and also in the u. S. In the leadup to the july 4 weekend with recent evidence that isis isnt just grooming followers over social media but actually providing bombmaking instruction to them as well. Its a good point youre making, a very scary point. Colonel reese, as you know on friday there were these three terror attacks in tunisia, there kuwait where 30 or 40 people were killed, more than 200 injured in that mosque on friday in france we saw what was going on with the beheading and isis claiming responsibility there. All within a matter of a few showers. Probably not directly coordinated but the message is going on through social media, go ahead and launch these kinds of attacks, right . That is correct. Wolf any time you see attacks that are near simultaneous it gives credence to that threat side for isis or daesh in the middle east. Its something we have to watch, especially copycat attacks or as isis is putting out these pieces. This is something our intelligence operatives know how to do when they start to see these on social media and can start pushing them and look at different areas of the world that might have a near simultaneous attack and it just goes back to show what terrorism does to the populous that these things are happening around. It starts making people get very uncomfortable and looking over their should everies. And i just want to point out and paul ill bring you in. The department of Homeland Security sent out directive to all federal, state local authorities in United States. We are encouraging all law enfworsment to be vigilant and prepared. We will adjust security measures seen and unseen as necessary to protect the american people. This in advance of the july fourth independence weekend coming am. What do you make of this . Well there has been longstanding concern that terrorist groups might want to strike during holidays. In fact, in bin ladens compound in baud abad they found ideas to tack the United States during a holiday period. So there is generally more concern because clearly symbolically if some kind of isis inspired attack were to take place this would be a big propaganda fillup for isis. I think the bigger danger is over the next three weeks, the period of ram adan leading up to about the 18th of july because of this message that isis has put out to supporters that now is the time to act and weve seen over just the past few days people take that up, wolf. I think were likely to see unfortunately a very bloody period over the next three weeks in the middle east and also potentially in europe even the United States. What do you think, colonel reese . Because as you know jeh johnson the secretary of Homeland Security said go about all of your july fourth activities travel plans, do whatever you were planning, but keep your eyes open. What dow make of that . Wolf, its a new world. Weve discussed this for over a year now. Unfortunately for the rest of our lives and probably for our childrens lives now, we have to stay vigilant across the spectrum, whether on holiday, whether were at work whether were traveling abroad or just here domestically its a new world. Its something our government vz to take a look at. And you saw where the United Kingdom today said they are tired of showing tolerance to these things and theyre going to start putting their foot down about that. Colonel reese, Paul Cruickshank thanks to you as well. Someone is torching african aamerican churches across the south. Is it arson . Is there another explanation for these mysterious fire snz well update you on what we know. Are a string of fires at predominant lay offer can american churches across several Southern States connected . Thats what Law Enforcement is investigating. In the past weeks, several buildings have suffered fire damage. In florida, North Carolina georgia and tennessee, all had fire thats are being investigated. Cnns Alina Machado joins us from atlanta. Alina, whats the status of this federal investigation . Reporter wolf, at this point, we know investigators with the fbi and atf are closely looking at these fires. Were talking about six fires at churches in five different state as cross the south. They all happened within about a week following that massacre in charleston. Now, three of those fires are being investigated as possible arsons, one of them happened at breyer creek road baptist church, a predominantly africanamerican church that shares space with two nepalese congregations in charlotte, North Carolina. That happened in a building with classrooms and thankfully it did not affect the main sanctuary. Authorities there are emphasizing that fire investigators have not seen anything so far that would point to a hate crime, though it has not been ruled out. In fact authority vz not called any of these fires hate crimes and also have not link them. The investigations, though, wolf, are active and ongoing. What about the other churches . We know a church fire in Gibson County tennessee, appears to have been caused by Lightning Strike another in tal lass see is likely electrical. There was a fire in macon georgia at a church. Authorities there are still trying to figure out the cause of that fire, wolf. So if we watch whats going on the federal investigation is under way. Obviously theyre trying to determine if theres a possibility these or some of these fires could have been hate related. Has anyone issued a hate statement or made any declaration that they are targeting these black churches for political reasons or whatever . At this point, wolf we havent heard of any statements being made of anybody trying to claim responsibility for any of these potential arsons. But we know, again, investigators at both the federal and state level with closely looking at these fires and trying to figure out what was the cause, what is behind these fires. Theres a lot of buzz out there on social immediate dwramedia, as you know. A lot of people are concerned. Are they stepping up security at these predominantly africanamerican churches throughout the south . Have you gotten any indication that that is happen something if that is happening obviously thats disturbing and unfortunate that it would be necessary. Yeah at this point, wolf we havent heard of any particular instances in which churches across the south are stepping up security but we know that following charleston, you know people are obviously going to be on this heightened alert. They want to make sure that nothing else happens like what we saw in charleston. Understandably so. Alignna alina thanks very much. Ill be back 5 00 p. M. Eastern in the situation room. 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