Issues like Social Security and illegal immigration. Those that have overstayed their visas, you can find them pick them up and send them back where theyre from. If they violate the law they have to be deported or put in prison. I dont think this administration is serious about Border Security or protecting working men and women. We need to increase the retirement age over a period of time. If youve done well in this country, we need you to not take a Social Security check. They try to divide us by gender by race by income by geography. Look were all americans. President obama recently referred to isis as the j. V. Team. This president has admit wed dont have a strategy as it relates to isis. Thats pretty amazing. Im the only republican leading Hillary Clinton in pennsylvania and its because i am different. She has as well lied about her servers and the kinds of information she had on her server and why she kept everything on a single device. Im fluent in clinton speak. You want know translate . When bill says i didnt have sex with that woman he did. When she tells us trust me youve got all the emails you need we havent even scratched the surface. One of the more colorful moments of that forum there. Joining us to talk more about it and a preview of thursdays debate cnn political director david chalian, former republican president ial candidate and former utah governor jon huntsman and former michigan governor Jennifer Granholm, the host of the war room. David, i want to start with you. Tell us what you thought about Lindsey Graham bringing up the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Thats whats referred to as red meat brianna. When you are trying to get your name out there and get tried and true republicans around to your cause, these primary voters in New Hampshire, theres nothing that works quite as well as bashing the clintons of course. So bringing up bill clintons past with mc, the email controversy with Hillary Clinton, thats what they want to hear. Actually they want to hear that much more than they want to see republican on republican fighting and last nights forum which as you saw was one on one, not like well see on thursday with a full debate stage allowed for that kind of rhetoric to appeal to the crowd. As you watch this forum, who did you think did well . Who did you think struggled . I thought several of them did well. John kasich talking about balanced budget which is a important fiscal conservative issue in New Hampshire. Thats something New Hampshire republicans identify with and because hes sort of the last entrant into the field that was participating, this was a big moment for him of introduction that went well. I also thought Chris Christie acquitted himself well. As you know hes in a New Hampshire or bust strategy and he said hes like the uncle at thanksgiving dinner coming early and staying late. And i think thats how New Hampshire voters will get to know him because hell be spending time up there. We all know that guy. I want to see what you think about this moment for jeb bush. He was talking about how to differentiate himself from his brother and from his father, a question that he was asked. Here was his answer. My dad is probably the most perfect man alive so its very hard for me to be critical of him. In fact i got a tshirt that says at the jeb swag store that says im the im the my dad is the greatest man alive, if you dont like it ill take you outside. Okay great that for us chalian. Well i would not say jeb bush has a very good future as a joke teller perhaps. He clearly was a little nervous there searching for a punch line. That didnt work out as a moment but i dont think it was disastrous. But it raises the question that we have asked about jeb bush which is remember hes been off the stage for a while so i think he may have shown there a little rustiness in these public forums. Its different than a small group of supporters on the campaign trail and he seems nervous so it makes me wonder what kind of style is jeb bush will bring to the stage thursday night. And well watch with you, david chalian, cnn political director thank you. I want to talk more about the republican race what we can expect during the primary debate with jon huntsman a former president ial candidate, the former governor of utah. You know what its like governor to be on a stage like this. I wonder you were at the point where you were one of the guys who was on the end of the line. You were trying to make a moment capitalize on that grow your numbers in the polls. As you look at someone like Chris Christie or john kasich doing the same, whats your advice to them . My advice for the early primaries, both iowa and New Hampshire is you have to show well in the debate you have to say things that reflect who you are, what you believe in and what youve done your track record. At the same time you have to be very good about building out that grassroots foundation. Were talking about public stuff here. With trump in the race it become asahi profile public spectacle but the race will be won or last base tonight work that is done largely invisible, at the grassroots level, bringing on volunteers convincing people to vote for you, hand shake by hand shake, ads placed in the local papers and thats unseen. You have to balance those two, a strong grassroots game along with a clearcut vision and convincing presentation on the debate stage. The Organization Matters as much as these public appearances. No question about. It so if you were on this stage and you are facing a donald trump and its anyones guess how he shows up thursday night, how would you prepare and execute depending on what youre nationing . Far be it from me to give advice to these folks. Just from your perspective. If you were facing this how would you approach this . I think what youre seeing is last night theres a clear difference between the governors in the group and the senators. The senators have prepackaged soundbites as if theyre attending a committee hearing, the governors have a record theyre bringing to the table. Trump that has a good record in business. He has a very good record as a showman. Hes excellent in those categories he doesnt have a record fixing things for people in states that matter whether its education, social service, whether its the economy. Youve got governors on the stage and if i were one of them and i was a governor you bring to the table convincing victories. Its how you package them how you differentiate yourself from trump, which is the public spectacle and he does that remarkably well. But Governors Spring to the table something that is quite unique and it will be in huge demand in the 2016 election cycle. Were looking for problem solvers, solutions to the basics like jobs and a balanced budget and entitlements. Thats clearly an area where a governor can differentiate himself from the rest of the pack. Differentiate yourself but ive heard so many people say you need to harness some of this energy that trump has been able to harness. No question about it. Disaffected Republican Base voters. Youre right. From your perspective, you are a more moderate republican you struggled in the primaries with something were seeing. Well i wonder if you think jeb bush is struggling with this really tapping into this sort of disaffected Republican Base voter that is going to be so key during this primary battle. Twothirds of the American Public think the nation is on the wrong track. Which means you have to afternoon it up a little bit. This is not a regular election cycle is were making history. Weve never seen this opening before. Not for the republican party, i think not for the issues that are salient and important so somebody like governor bush and the rest of them they have to find their sweet spot and they have to deliver with passion. They have to articulate in the a way that afternoons it up. And i think don trump is teaching everybody that message about passion, you have to be authentic. The one thing trump has is authenticity. For all of his faults and everything people point out, hes authentic and people see him as a job creator, people see him as somebody who blef noose what hes saying. Thats the message loud and clear. Afternoon up your message, make it matter deliver in the ways that capture peoples imagination. Its a lesson to be learned from the major frontrunner at this point. Governor huntsman really appreciate it. Joining us with more perspective on the debate and the primary battle we have former michigan governor Jennifer Granholm. Lets talk about donald trump, governor he was the el havent in the room who wasnt actually there at this forum. Its fascinating, some people may not recall i know you sure do that you were the stand in for sarah palin during Vice President joe bidens 2008 debate prep. What advice would you give to these other candidates in how to deal with someone like donald trump who certainly has some appeal but maybe he doesnt have certain areas of accomplishment that they dont and also hes such a big personality. First of all, every candidate has one minute to answer any question and then 30 seconds in rebuttal. So whatever you say you better be practicing your language so its crisp and clear. You answer the question. You site something youve done to validate yourself and then you fifth and create a memorable moment, whether its a zinger or some kind of attack on somebody else. Now if youre donald trump, you are everybody expects you to come in with bombast. What if he surprises people . If i were on his team which im not but if i were i would say how do we enlarge the base of people and not just sit on this lead but grow it . I would want to go in and surprise people babying substantive and thoughtful and more humor is always good. If im jeb bush i do not want this guy to take my followers away so i want perhaps with humor to goad him a little to be more like trump and that might turn off the voters who have a negative opinion of him of which, by the way, there still is a huge number. So hes got a lot of work to do so you might want to poke the bear if you are on the other side. But if youre donald surprise people. He tells people brianna, hes not practicing . I think thats total bs. That guy is practicing he is a showman and hell come in with zingers and lines and hopefully for him some policies so he can establish his own bona fides. Maybe hes managing those expectations. For sure for sure. So you say maybe poke the bear but donald trump has said look im not going to punch but im going to counterpunch. How do you prepare for someone like that counterpunching at you. Right. Its a balance, right . But if you poke him and he comes back at you in an overthetop way, perhaps that makes your point that he is not fit to serve as commanderinchief. What you want to do is to have people thinking about Donald Trumps finger on the button. Do you want somebody who is very irrational . My guess is he is a showman, yes, but trump is not going to come in and allow himself to be manipulated to look irrational and wild. But who knows with this guy. Everybody will be watching. I think everybody will be watching and hoping for this great reality show drama and im sure there will be a few moments but my guess is people might be disappointed because the moderators have to give somewhat equal time to all of the candidates. Theres ten of them on there. As we saw last night the New Hampshire debate everybody just gets a little bit. So it will be an interesting night. It will be. Well watch along with you. Governor granholm that you can so much. Donald trump is getting a taste of his own medicine. The president ial candidates phone number posted on the internet for everyone to see. Its a move that comes roughly two weeks after trump gave out senator Lindsey Grahams number at a rally in South Carolina. Graham you may recall responded by releasing this. That video had been seen millions of times online. Its created buzz for graham hes trailing trump in every poll. Coming up whos behind the latest phone number stunt plus trumps somewhat surprising reaction, next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. 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These results mirror the latest cnn poll of polls. Its an average of the five most recent surveys. I want to bring in cnns senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny and senior media correspondent brian stelter, the host of cnns reliable sources. Jeff right now it looks like its a bummer mere for the people who arent going to make the cut. It looks like rick perry might not. How significant a setback is that for his campaign . Its certainly not a good thing if youre rick perry. Particularly because hes been trying to make a centerpiece of his message going after donald trump, hissing his message is not a conservative message. If hes not on the stage with the ability to do that it minimizes the as yens hell have. But on the other hand debates are not the strongest suit for rick perry. We certainly saw that in 2012 when he was running. He had that famous moment the oops moment. But, look he certainly thought he would be on this debate stage and wanted to be. But im also not sure. If youre the top candidate or one of the top candidates in the other debate the first debate happening at 5 00 you have a chance to get your message out there. So he will be standing side by side with Lindsey Graham and Carly Fiorina and the others so hell get his opportunity. But it sets the mold he is not a tiera candidate. Youre hearing about the rules that fox is newsing to figure without takes part in the debate. Give us a sense of these. Its become louder in recent days from both candidates but also pollsters. Some poller thes who say this is not what our polls are meant to be used for. These polls weve been showing on screen some have sample sizes of about 500 robe voters people weighing in in these polls. Thats not a giant sample. When youre talking about the difference between having 1 20 or 30 or 4 support, that comes down to a few people being phone bud fox is using an average of five different polls. That i havent said which ones. They say they wont decide before the deadline but we have a good sense of what theyll be using and thats why it appears rick perry will be number 11. Fox had to do something. Cnn has a debate next month. Cnn has to do something. Cnns choice is a little different. Both tiers, the lore and ss the lower and upper, will be in prime time. But these networks have to do something to make it a manageable debate. Even with ten podiums on the stage, that will be a lot to manage. It is a crowded field even with seven folks not on that main stage. Is i want to ask you about Something Different here donald trump came under fire when he gave out senator grahams cell phone number during a campaign event. Gawker published one of trumps old cell phone numbers yesterday and he turned it into a campaign plug listen to his answering machine message. Hi this is donald trump and im running for the presidency of the United States of america. With your help and support together we can make america truly great again visit me on twitter realdonald trump and check out my Campaign Site at www. Donaldtrump. Com. Hope the see you on the campaign trail. Were going to do it. I dont know jeff id say thats savvy right there. No doubt. It just underscores the fact that he of all candidates is the most comfortable being a showman. If you think of the president ial campaign certainly a debate and these other things as a Television Show which, i