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Her lead shrinking and Vice President joe biden numbers rising. Hes above 20 for the first time. Well break down the numbers for you. The Vice President hasnt said whether hes running for president or not, but hes making head way against Hillary Clinton, that according to this brand new Monmouth University poll. 42 of democrats and democraticleaning voters back Hillary Clinton, thats down from 45 in a different poll late last month. Its Hillary Clintons worst showing in a Major National poll. Vice President Joe Biden has climbed to 22 followed by Bernie Sanders at 20 . Our senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is joining us live. Jeff, what do you make of the new numbers . Wolf, i think democrats are getting the opportunity to think, wow, we may have a choice in this election so they are exercising that choice. Theyve seen so much choice on the republican side and up until now it didnt look like the race would be so competitive. Wolf, this race is going to be very competitive. It tells us a couple things. For joe biden the spotlight has been kind to him. Over the last month or six weeks or so most all of the news coverage, most all of the attention has been very positive. Yipg of a time when hes gotten so much of attention when he was picked as the Vice President in the summer of 2008. The reality is and he knows this as well as anyone the minute he declares, the minute he jumps in that coverage changes, he would be treated like a candidate. He would own every bit of the obama administrations record over the last six and a half years, seven years in office here. So its good for him at the moment. For Hillary Clinton it shows hes taking support from her lane. No question about it. Those are the same voters, his supporters are coming from her column. Its interesting because if you look at this Monmouth University poll and ive studied it in august when the same poll came out Hillary Clinton was in 52 , now down 42 , biden who hasnt announced anything, hes at 12 , now hes at 22 the. And Bernie Sanders has gone from 16 to 20 . So obviously her numbers are going down right now. That must be a source of some concern to those who support her. Sure its a source of concern at some point, but you also have to look beyond these numbers a bit and wolf democrats still like Hillary Clinton. Her Favorability Ratings are still higher than any candidate or most candidates could dream for so they may be looking around, they may say, hey, we like joe biden right now the but i think the thing that is worrisome is more on the Bernie Sanders side of things. I was in iowa and talked to so many voters, i can tell you the Bernie Sanders voters are not antiHillary Clinton, theyre prosanders. Thats a problem for Hillary Clinton. Stand by because well get back to the u. S. Race for the white house in a moment but theres breaking news were following out of grayson, kentucky. The case of the kentucky Clerk Kim Davis whos been jailed for refusing to sign marriage certificates for samesex couples. Lets go to Martin Savidge on the scene for us. Whats going on . Wolf, according to the legal team that represents kim davis and ive just been speaking to the chief Legal Advisor he says that the judge in this case, thats david bunting, the federal judge that ordered her to be held has now ordered her to be released. Again, kim davis has been told she is going to be released from this facility according to her attorneys the judge told them through an order he was satisfied that the judges order was being complied with. That being, of course, that marriage licenses are being disseminated in rowan county. The problem here is that the Attorney Says she has not changed her mind. That she is adamant as long as her name appeals on those licenses she will attempt to stop those licenses from being distributed which means if she goes back on the job as is expected she will bring the process to a halt. Thats what her attorneys believe and they have said that they expect her to go by her conscience, which means we may go through this all again. But the headline is kim davis has been ordered freed from this facility, wolf . Presumably, martin, shell go back to work as the clerk there whos in charge of signing and issuing these marriage certificates. Correct. Thats what the attorneys are finding a problem here be s because in many ways this is not a resolution. I said do you feel this is a victory . Have you won something here . They said no they were confused by the judges ruling because it doesnt resolve what we know, what they know was the original problem the clerk had which was her name. She was religiously opposed to having her name appear on samesex marriage licenses. So they still anticipate she is going to walk out of this facility, whether it would be in five minutes or five hours but what happens after that when she shows up back on the job the anybodys guess but its looking like it could be repeated once more. Wolf . Ted cruz is down there, Mike Huckabee is down there, two republican president ial candidates expressing their support for kim davis. Well see whats going on. Let us know when you get more information. Well report it to our viewers. Lets get analysis of whats going on in kentucky right now. Joining us are cnn political commentator, the democratic strategist donna brazile. Also joining us, michele bachmann, the former republican president ial candidate, former u. S. Congress bomb from the state of minnesota. Whats your reaction to the release of kim davis, first of all . She was in jail for refusing to sign these marriage certificates. Now shes out, we dont know what happens next. Well, i take no joy in anybody being jailed for their socalled religious belief but i also take no joy in people lining up day after day to get their marriage license. If she objects to this, she should step aside and allow other clerks, i believe there are five other clerks, including her son, that would like to issue those licenses. So its clear the judge has decided its time for ms. Davis to go home. If she goes back to work if she can not do that from her conscience point of view perhaps she can allow the other clerks to do so. Michele, whats your reaction . I think it shows a victory for people who went to the polls in state after state after state and voted on putting the definition of marriage in their state constitutions and all of the collective voices of people across the United States who believed in marriage as one man, one woman, was swept away by five voices on the United States Supreme Court. Thats whats at issue here, judicial activism and this story isnt over. But isnt the Supreme Court decision supposed to be the law of the land after they interpret what the law is . Well, the law of the land is what congress and the president and the peoples voices are and the state. We have a real perversion now where the Supreme Court has made itself a superlegislature in contravention of the constitution. Equal justice under the law is inspired not just in our constitution under the 14th amendment but the dignity of those who have been standing in line waiting to have that moment when they want their licenses. That should supersede anyones religious conscience. I understand the importance of religion, im a practicing catholic, i understand why it was enshrined in the bill of rights but the constitution is very clear and the judges 54 look, i dont like the Supreme Court all the time, i think they act like supremes. But this is the law because the Supreme Court did rule in a 45 decision that the 14th amendment to the prosecution provides equal protection to all american citizens and that two men if they want to get married, two women, they deserve the same equal rights as all american citizens. The 14th amendment was about the conclusion of the civil war and it was about the issue of the states and the rights of africanamericans, it was not about marriage and so once again were seeing a puff of smoke being blown into a new right by five justices on the Supreme Court. But you dont accept that the Supreme Court is the final arbitor interpreting what the law of the land is . I think what weve seen is a perversion of the rights of the american people. Their rights are being undermind in our system of federalism. Its a serious issue. Very serious issue we need to expect the dignity and rights of every american citizen under the law. Not to respect the Supreme Court. It must remain under its limits as enumerated in article iii of the constitution. Clearly they have broken well beyond and ascribed to them the rights of congress which i was a member of under article i. Miss davis took an oath also. She swore to uphold the constitution of the United States. The Supreme Court affirmed that in the recent case so i see no contradiction here. Miss davis, if she can not do this out of her conscience she should step aside, let the other five clerks do their job i take no joy in anybody being thrown in jail but i believe she should uphold the law, if not step aside. We cant allow hold on, i want to go back to Martin Savidge on the scene for us in kentucky over there. Yo r you getting reaction so far to this decision by the judge to let her go free . No, theres been no reaction because most people here do not know that that has been given. Theres been no announcement that has been made on the podium here. Everyone still waiting for Mike Huckabee to show up and ted cruz as well. So far this crowd crowd has no knowledge that the person many of them are here to support and see get freed has by a judges order been freed. Thats one of the fascinating things to watch here. Word will circulate but its very much right now even the attorneys are in a confused state to understand how this will happen and as weve already mentioned how long will it last. The other thing to be pointed out is that these attorneys filed five separate filings to the u. S. Supreme coucircuit cou appeals. So a lot is up in the air but one thing is certain, this crowd doesnt know the news we know. Were showing our viewers a live picture from grayson, kentucky. We anticipate kim davis will walk out that door. Well show it to our viewers once it happens but lets take a quick break, much more on the breaking news right after this. Why do so many People Choose aleve . 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Martin, this is the same judge, judge david bunting, who initially put her in jail for refusing to sign those marriage certificate certificates now hes issued an order explaining why. Why is that . Well, i dont have the papers in front of me but he said the judge is satisfied his order is being complied with, of course, that marriage licenses are being disseminated and marriage license is granted to all people who ask for them which is something kim davis was not wanting to do. Remember, all of this was started as a result of four lawsuits that were brought and thats why judge bunning heard the case and issued a contempt order and it appears maybe the judge is somehow reviewing whether marriage licenses went to those four people. In either way, according to the attorney he says the judge is satisfied but heres the problem, the judge didnt say anything else beyond that we know from talking to the attorney of kim davis she hasnt changed her mind. So when she walks out the door she will be free but the moment she returns to work and issues licenses or stops the issuance of licenses with her name on them the moment she could once again run afoul of this judge. Martin, i just received the judges order. It goes beyond the what the attorneys for kim davis were saying and let me summarize what the judge wrote in his text of order, as its called. He released her, he says, because marriage certificates are now being granted in this county in kentucky five of her six deputy clerks stated under oath they would comply with the courts order and issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples and that obviously includes samesex couples. The judge also goes on to say that defendant davis shall be released from the custody of the u. S. Marshal, she shall not interfere directly or indirectly with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couple couples he is restricted from doing what she had been doing before, restricting these marriage licenses. Jeffrey toobin is on the phone. Jeffrey, have you had a chance to go through the judges written statement explaining why he released her . Im working on it as we speak but i think the rationale is very clear. Its important to remember that contempt of court which is why she was incarcerated, is not punishment, its meant to force certain behavior anded in this case it was meant to force this county to grant marriage licenses to samesex couples. The judge is satisfied that these couples will be able to get their licenses so theres no reason to hold her in contempt anymore so the the purpose of the contempt has been satisfied apparently and as long as everyone can be allowed to be married in this county she will be able to stay out of prison jail. Because it does specifically say, youre right, the court is therefore satisfied that the Rowan County Clerks Office is fulfilling its obligation to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples consistent with the u. S. Supreme Courts Holding in oeberg fall and this courts order for these reasons the courts prior contempt sanction against defendant davis is hereby lifted. It does say she shall not interfere with her deputies who are issuing marriage certificates. If she does interfere, what happens next . She could be held in contempt again because the judge, quite properly, has been focused simply on the end results which are samesex couples being allowed to be married in this county . If the answer is yes then there is no reason to hold her in contempt but if she comes out of jail and intertiers with this process there could be another contempt proceeding and she could wind up in jail very quickly. He also says he will ask for what he calls a status report every 14 days to make sure the courts orders are being complied with. Let me bring paul callan into this conversation, another one of our legal analysts. Pall, what do you make of this decision by the judge to go ahead and release kim davis . I think the judge is looking at a situation where you have hes worried about the free exercise of religion concept and the public maybe not understanding the constitutional rule he had to deal with and i think hes trying to offer her a way out of the box shes put herself in but i agree with jeff completely. If she goes back to that office and does exactly, by the way, what she said before she was going to do and this is not allow marriage certificates to be issued to gay couples because remember, her public statements have been that these certificates are issued under her authority and she was not going to permit it. Now if she returns to that conduct shell be marched right back into a federal prison, i believe, to serve out a contempt sentence until she come price. And the judges report also state, paul, that the plaintiffs in this particular case, the samesex couples who wanted to receive the marriage licenses, they have received the licenses from some other deputy clerk so as a result he could release her from jail. That makes legal sense, right . It does make legal sense but whats going to be very interesting is what happens tomorrow or later this week when undoubtedly another gay couple comes into the office. Is she going to authorize a subordinate to sign a marriage certificate or is she going to hold to her principles and say no such certificate will beish sflud this office until kentucky changes its law. If thats the case, i think she might be standing before the judge again. And if that happens, basically her options, paul, and i want to take a quick break because were waiting for her to walk out of that jail over there, we have cameras all over the police, but basically her options are to live with her religious convictions and not sign these marriage certificates and not allow any of her deputies to sign these marriage certificates or to resign from that position and move on, is that right . Yes, i think that is absolutely correct and we the u. S. Supports religious diversity of views. But Public Officials have to abide by the constitution of the United States. Thats the one thing that we of all religions agree to and to the extent that she obstructs the constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court she can be held in contempt of court. All right, stand by, well stay on top of the breaking news, much more right after this. I brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized im new ensure active high protein. 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Xarelto® may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. Xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. Get help right away for unexpected bleeding, unusual bruising, or tingling. If you have had spinal anesthesia while on xarelto®, watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle related signs or symptoms. Do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. Tell your doctor before all planned medical or dental procedures. Before starting xarelto®, tell your doctor about any kidney, liver, or bleeding problems. Xarelto® has been prescribed more than 11 million times in the u. S. And that numbers growing. Like your guys scores. With xarelto® there is no regular blood monitoring, and no known dietary restrictions. Treatment with xarelto® was the right move for us. Ask your doctor about xarelto®. Were following breaking news out of kentucky. You see live pictures coming in in the left part of your screen. Thats the door we anticipate that kim davis, the 49yearold county clerk who was supposed to be signing marriage certificates there but refusing to sign marriage certificates for gults, she has been ordered released by the judge who put her in jail to begin with, judge David Bunning, saying some of her deputies five or six of her deputies are signing those certificates issuing samesex marriage certificates and as a result the law is being honored. He is warning, though, his n his order to her not to interfere in any way directly or indirectly with the efforts of her clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples now that she has been released. Well see if she speaks when she walk out of that door. I want to go back to Martin Savidge. Martin, are folks hearing the words shes about to be released . Its trickled through. I had a very brief conversation with kim davis aunt and her cousin, theyre aware of the news but they dont know any more besides that. They said she has not changed her mind one bit so everyone who has heard this news realizes this isnt the end of this saga. I should tell you whats going on is that Mike Huckabee, the man on the republican side that organized this rally, is trying to get into the jail because it was his intention to have a meeting inside of her cell with kim davis. Now enough ironic situation where she may be released as hes going in so there is a lot of chaos both legally and politically as they try to organize this event. Most people are standing around trying to understand what happens next. Well see when she walks out that door if she does say anything. If she gives any indication that the judges order she not interfere any way directly or indirectly the efforts of her clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples, including samesex couples. Joey jackson is one of our hln legal analysts joining us right now. Have you had a chance, joey, to read this judges order and if you have what do you make of them . Heres what i make, wolf. The reality is this, were a society that engages in two principles and no matter if youre democrat or republican, no matter who you are, where you stand, the color you are, society only works if number one we accept that no individual is above an office they hold and in holding an office you swear to uphold the constitution of the United States of america, the individual state where youre from any any other ordnances or directives that are there. Thats the first principle. Number two, we only work as a society if we have uniformity in the principles of government and law. We each have individual decision s everyone is to be respected but were not talking about someone in their individual capacity, were talking about someone whos presiding in an office. That office has a directive and that directive comes from the Supreme Court of the United States which is the highest court there can be. In light of that you do as you need to do otherwise, you suffer the consequence and thats the essence. Her supporters are standing outside. We anticipate she will be walking through the door shortly. Shes been ordered freed, at least for now by this local judge who says she can go free provided by she doesnt interfere with the issuing of marriage licenses for lets take another quick break. Watch whats going on right after this. H after month. Year after year. Then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. Yeah. Surprise. Your Insurance Company tells you to pay up again. Why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it . If you have Liberty Mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. Sign up to immediately lower your deductible by 100. And keep lowering it 100 annually, until its gone. 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You see her supporters there have gathered to hear from two republican president ial candidates, ted cruz and Mike Huckabee, bhoet are expressing their support for kim davis, this 49yearold clerk who refused to issue these samesex marriage licenses. The judge in this particular case, judge David Bunning was sent to jail for contempt of court and says the county is issuing samesex marriage certificate certificates. As a result she can. She can refuse to obey. Well see what happens. Well hear what ted cruz and Mike Huckabee have to say as well. Today the crush of refugees in europe, epic proportions, words almost dont do justice because the pictures are so powerful. Hundreds of migrants broke free on the hungary serbia border. Police chased them. This refugee crisis has many people wondering if the United States is doing enough to help resolve the situation. Lets talk about this and more with state Department Spokesman john kerby. John, thanks very much for joining us i want to begin with the white house statement on the syrian refugee crisis and ill read it to our viewers. The administration actively considering a range of approaches to be more responsive to the global refugee crisis, including with regard to the refugee resettlement, we are also in regular contact with countries in the middle east and europe who have been greatly impacted by the increased refugee flow. So where does the u. S. Stand on whats going on . How many refugees do you anticipate the u. S. Is getting ready to take in . Well, we dont have an exact number to give you today, wolf, but i can tell you that we are certainly looking at a range of options and i think its reasonable to expect that resettlement here in the United States is one of those options were looking at and, again, how many that will be over what period of time i dont think those kinds of decisions have been made yet as we brought in about 1500 since the beginning of this conflict, 1300 of those just since january of this year. Its something were constantly looking at. I would remind you that the United States remains the largest donor to this crisis with over 4 billion to deal with in the the region. Because this crisis has been going on for four years now. 300,000 people have died in the civil war in syria and there have been several Million People displaced internally and externally. The pictures in europe, theyre so dramatic it will put pressure on the u. S. To accept more of these refugees. Well, again, well look at all options here and resettlement is one of those things. I would also tell you secretary kerry at the state department were very much focused only this. The secretary spoke on the morning staff meeting about this very issue wanting ideas, fresh thinking here at the state department. He stood up a working group to go after this problem and come up with options he can pursue. He spoke his german counterpart about this issue, thanked them for the leadership theyre showing. Were grateful to the e. U. And were grateful for individual nations like germany who are trying to deal with the influx of refugees. You ref to them as refugees not migrants because theres been some debate as to whether theyre migrants or refugees. The u. S. Government says these are refugees. Well, were using refugees because typically youre talking about somebody fleeing from fear. Fleeing from conflict. Thats what were seeing largely with this. It doesnt mean some of them may not seek permanent resettlement somewhere but in terms of this particular crisis the civil war in syria, these are refugees from that conflict. And its not just syria, as you noted, wolf, and youve reported, theyre seeing many people coming out of other nations in the region to include escaping the conflict. I spoke with republican peter king of new york, a member of the House Homeland Security committee, he suggested that there is some fear that some of these refugees may be posing as refugees but might be al qaeda or isis terrorists trying to sneak into europe or the United States. What do you make of that . Well, certainly thats a possibility. You cant dismiss that out of hand. But its pretty clear the great many of these people are innocent victims of Bashar Al Assads brutality and cruelty to his own people and theyre trying to do what they can to protect their children and protect their families. Thats whats really going on here. But certainly, look, you cant dismiss out of hand the possibility that there could be some nefarious characters mixed in with them. One of the reasons that were so careful with resettlement in the United States is when were looking at people that are coming from that part of the world we have to vet them before we can allow them to resettle he here. If you look at the images that that are so heartbreaking, its clear these people are innocent moms, dads, brother, sisters grandparents trying to escape brutality. I want to get back to the refugee crisis that is exploding but i want to get other questions in before you have to run. The New York Times now reporting a Second Review found top secret classified information that Hillary Clinton received while she was secretary of state on her private email server. Is that the state department view as well . Well, we our view has not changed on these particular emails. We dont believe that classification is warranted. Were working through our analysis of that and we intend to present that to the Intelligence Community in the coming days to bolster our argument. But, look, this is an interagency discussion, its good and healthy we have these discussions, we wont always agree but its important we continue to talk. Elise labott, our World Affairs correspondent is reporting secretary kerry is about to name whats being described as an email czar to deal with this whole issue of Hillary Clintons controversial emails. Is that right . Well, ill have more to say about this at my 2 00 press conference, wolf, but i can safely say that secretary kerry is making sure we are as efficient as we can be in terms of recording, making a record of our work in Foreign Policy and disclosing as we can through the freedom of information act process the kind of records we need to produce, including these emails weve gotten from former secretary clinton. So theres work to be done. The state department is pushing through as hard as we can and i think its safe to say secretary kerry believe there iss more work to be done, more improvements to be made and ill have more to say about that in a few minutes. Well watch that. One final question, scott darden, an american who is now being held by Houthi Rebels in yemen, apparently two other american citizens are being detained is by the rebels in yemen as well. What can you tell us about their faith . Well, wolf, i cant comment much on this at all. Ive seen the press report bus im not able to go into detail. Well watch your state Department Briefing at the top of the hour. John kirby, thanks very much for joining us. My pleasure, wolf. Well stay on top of other breaking news were following right now. Kim davis, the 49yearold clerk in kentucky who refused to issue samesex marriage certificates, shes about to be released from jail. Well stay on top of this story as well. Well be right back. Its how i try to live. 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The judge also warning, though, if she interferes in any way now that she is going to go back presumably to her job directly or indirectly with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legal eligible couples she could be held in contempt. Martin savidge is on the scene. I know Mike Huckabee, a republican president ial candidate there with you today to show their solidarity with kim davis. He just walked into that facility there, right . Thats correct, yeah. And in fact about the same time reporter thats correct. About the same time he was walking in, i sent a text message to kim davis attorney and said when is she coming back . He answered back with one word. Soon. So Political Drama that could be playing out here as Mike Huckabee goes inside for what was supposed to be just a meeting. Shes anticipating to be set free as a result of the judges order. Most importantly, what will she say when she comes out . Because her actions pretty much dictate whether shell be making this a relatively short, free time that shes away from jail. Wolf . This judge was very firm in his written order. He says she shall not interfere in any way once she presumably goes back to her job. Ted cruz, the republican senator from texas, another republican president ial candidate is there as well showing solidarity with her. Have you seen him . Reporter no. But this town never see one president ial candidate and now in a span of a couple of hours they are seeing two of them. The town is being stretched in terms of safety and security forces. They have 11 Police Officers normally. So trying to assure the safety and now deal with a very evolving situation on the ground, the mayor says you like your community to be known but not necessarily for these reasons. They are doing their best to deal with the situation. Wolf. Martin savidge, thank you. Joey jackson and paul callan are there as well. Some of her supporters have compared her to Martin Luther king. When you hear that, what do you think about her legal arguments . Well, i think certainly people are entitled to their own views and i think the country is founded upon us being different and there is joy to be found in diversity. However, when youre an Office Holder and promise to uphold the constitution of the United States of america and dont do so, in essence, i think the legal argument would be made that youre imposing your views on some one else in that youre not issuing licenses that youre demanded to issue and that the law requires you to issue. I think the argument will ultimately be that you have a right to whatever beliefs you have, you just cant impose it upon citizens and, therefore, if you want to have the religious beliefs and are against it, youll have to step aside from the office that youre holding upon the public that voted for to you serve. Presumably shell be going back to her job and shes got to make a decision. Does she order her clerks to stop issuing the samesex marriage certificates or does she resign from she was a democrat. She was democratically elected to the clerk position. Yes. And through her attorney shes made strong Public Opinions previously that she is not going to permit marriage certificates to be issued by her office that permit samesex marriage. So i thought the thing that was very interesting was that i havent heard that she was called into court and said to the judge that she would no longer obstruct the issuance of marriage licenses for gay couples. I was looking at the actual statute in kentucky and its kind of interesting, the law in kentucky is that a man and a woman have to sign an application for a marriage certificate. The law in kentucky also explicitly bans samesex marriage. By the way, it also bans First Cousins marrying each other in kentucky. Here weve had the Supreme Court from it is ruling overruling kentucky law on this and presumably shes supposed to comply with the law of the land. Paul, when you hear some of her supporters arguing this was a 54 decision, the Supreme Court is not supposed to make the law, they are supposed to interpret the laws and this was inappropriate, what do you say to that . Well, what i would say to them is article 6 of the United States constitution defines federal supremacy and the concept that federal law takes precedence over conflicting state law. And this doctrine has been established for hundreds of years in the United States, over 100 years. We integrated School Systems throughout the south. A lot of people were trying to block that. Governor wallace stood on the school steps to block admission. And you know what happened . Federal judges aggressively came in and issued orders, held people in contempt and the u. S. Constitution was enforced and its going to happen in kentucky as well. All right. So once again, well see where this story moves, next, as shes about to be released. Her attorneys say shell be walking out that door soon. Thats the word they used in texting. Martin, well see what she says, if anything, what she does when shes released if she honors this demand, this order this order by the way, this is video that we saw of hike huckabee walking into that jail. He earlier made a commitment to show solidarity with kim davis. You see him going in there. Lets see if he walks out together with her in the coming minutes. Well stay on top of this story. Thats it for me. Ill be back at 5 00 p. M. Eastern. The news continues next right after a quick break. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare . Thats a good thing, but it doesnt cover everything. Only about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. So consider an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare Insurance Company. 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