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And the other one up. Thats the one. And thats, he came through the bushes and fell down here. And quite frankly, i dont know how he wasnt hurt. He did not have a concussion. He did not have broken bones. He may have just tumbled and landed flat on his back. Thats kind of the speculation. And was really unscathed. In situations like this and what standard would have had to have been met if there were to be charges filed . Okay, first of all, and ill give you the elements of this charge, child endangering. First of all, had to be in parent or guardian custodian. Under 18. Met the criteria. The parent must recklessly, recklessly create a substantial risk to the health or safety of the child. Now, when i say recklessly, this is what it means in ohio. With heedless indifference to the consequences, disregard a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the persons conduct is likely to cause a certain result. A childs scampering away, its not foreseeable that hes going to fall on the gorilla encampment. Did that weigh on you with the decision . No. But ill tell you, i was a bit taken aback by some folks moral equivalence of human life and animal life. And this is a beautiful little boy, and had they not acted and this animal behaved, sometimes like animals behave, we could have had a genuine tragedy here. Its sad enough that the gorilla was taken out. But it could have been a lot worse. Weve had a lot of stories in the conferences. The execution, child killers. Just the attention this brought. Are you surprised . I frequent the zoo. As my kids were growing up. I talked to maynard on friday and theyre genuinely heartbroken about what happened. You know, ultimately, i think that some of the remedial fixes will solve this problem theyve done, but quite frankly, to get your question specifically, ive never seen the attention given to a child endangering case like this. There you have the announcement from the Hamilton County prosecutor. Joseph saying no charges filed against the mother with the 3yearold who fell into that encampment where the gorilla was shot and killed. I want to talk other this decision. Laura coats, a former federal prosecutor. You think the prosecutor made the right decision here . Absolutely, wolf. With elements of the crime that he was discussing, and what the facts of this specific case are, the the conduct of that boys mother did not rise the level of endangering her child. It rose to the level of a young boy who escaped his mothers grasp and fell into a gorilla enclosure in an unforeseeable way. It was not criminal conduct. They made the right call. How hard would it have been to file the charges against her. Im surprised the prosecutor made the example if she had been in a bathroom smoking crack as the only alternative but certainly if the mother made steps and demonstrated she was not atetentive or supervising ad acted in total disregard of the childs safety knowing it may be an alluring thing for the child to be so close to may have mesmerized that. But not a mom who relaxed all her duties but i believe she turned her attention away to other children she was off supervising to take a graph of them. Anything less than that is not neglect in any way. What we had is a clear cut a child acting like a 3yearold child would do and the consequences were terrible. Is there a civil case, no criminal charges are filed against the mother but is there a civil case the zoo or other group could make against the family . Absolutely. And thats one of the issues i think people have with the zoo taking these kind of remedial measures after the fact to rise the level of that fence, to provide netting. It acknowledges in some part, although it never happened before, that there was a step that needed to be taken to prevent this kind of thing happening. So with the zoo taking that action, they opened themselves up to liability for saying they did not take the appropriate steps in advance. Also, ironically enough, the parents could actually bring some type of a suit against the zoo for not taking better steps to ensure the childs safety. That could be a bit odd given the scenario but odder things have happened in the legal system in america. There could be civil suits against the zoo youre say but what about the mother or the family . The suit against the mother would largely not be there because of damages. The financial damages. Who would be the person theyre suing on behalf of . Har harambe, the gorilla . While we had to take these steps because of your actions set a domino effect in the wheel in motion to do this. However, these will not be successful likely because it was the third party, the zoo, that decided the death had to occur. They took the steps to execute the gorilla and not what happened with the own conduct. In a civil suit, it would likely not be successful for those reasons. The prosecutor, the Hamilton County prosecutor, joseph announced no charges, no criminal charges will be filed against the mother in connection with her 3yearold that fell into that area where the gorilla was. All right, laura. Thank you very much for that report. Our cnn legal analyst. Coming up, well switch gears and move to the u. S. Elections. Top republican officials speaks out against donald trump. Worried they may alienate voters and former candidate is joining the growing call for donald trump to apologize. We have details. Thats next. Be the you who doesnt cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Be the you who shows up in that dress. Who hugs a friend. 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Were just one day away from the final super tuesday of this six month president ial primary process here in the United States. Six states including california and new jersey vote tomorrow. The Republican Party is pretty much over with. The republican primary race pretty much over with, with donald trump having captured enough delegates to make himself the presumptive nominee but doesnt mean members of his own party all rally behind him especially in the wake of some critical comments hes made about a federal judge. Ohio Governor John Kasich who ran against trump in the president ial race is the latest to push trump for an apology saying this. Attacking judges based on their race and or religion is another tactic that divides our country. More importantly, it is flat out wrong. Donald trump should apologize to judge curiel and try to unite this country. On the democrats side, Hillary Clinton is just 26 delegates away from effectively securing the nomination over Bernie Sanders and with that, were also learning that Hillary Clinton will likely get an endorsement from president barack obama perhaps as early as this week. Well hear from Bernie Sanders next hour when he holds a News Conference in San Francisco where hell likely talk about his strategy Going Forward and calls a lot of calls for him effectively to drop out after tomorrow. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are in very different trajectories heading into tomorrows primaries. Especially with president obamas expected endorsement. Chris frates joining us live from los angeles right now where Hillary Clinton is holding a Campaign Event later tonight. Chris, what do we know about the timing of the endorsement thats expected from the president . Reporter well, wolf, we know that this endorsement could come early as this week, although, its important to point out nothing has been nailed down. President obama and secretary clinton dont have meetings or Public Events scheduled at this point but the news is coming, as you point out, one day ahead of the big final super tuesday primary here where Hillary Clinton is expected to clinch the number of delegates she needs to become the Presumptive Democratic nominee. The hope here is in the future before the convention, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and president obama can all get on the stage together and get behind the presumptive nominee who looks like it will be Hillary Clinton and the president essentially signaling if Bernie Sanders wants to continue his challenge, he said just as recently as yesterday hes going to take this all the way to the convention and hes going to try to flip some of the super delegates who are giving Hillary Clinton the nomination. Shes going to try to flip them to his side. If he chooses to do that, he wont wait on the sidelines and Elizabeth Warren indicating she doesnt think super delegates should decide this race. So this is signals from the establishment that Bernie Sanders is going to have a real tough road if Hillary Clinton does, in fact, get to the magic number of 2383 tomorrow, wolf. What do you hear about how Hillary Clinton will reach out to the Bernie Sanders voters and when that will happen . I just talked to Campaign Aide who made the case that those discussions havent really begun in earnest yet. No surprise. There are still elections to go. The fat lady has not sung here but Hillary Clinton made it clear she wants Bernie Sanders endorsement and supporters to get behind her politically and no surprise. Bernie sanders does much better with young voters. He does better with young voters and progressives. Those are areas where she needs help. And the Clinton Campaign also pointing out thats why president obamas going to be so key. Back in 2008, they didnt have a democratic president to help bring this party together. They hope that president obama, whos also popular with young people and progressives, can really help bring that wing of the party behind hick if shes able to clinch tomorrow as expected, wolf. Chris frates reporting for us from los angeles, thank you. Bernie sanders, by the way, will be taking questions from the news media at an event in california in the next hour. Well have live coverage. Thats coming up right here on cnn. So whats the most pressing question facing Bernie Sanders . Is it when he drops out of the race, if he drops out of the race . How should he do it . Well ask a Bernie Sanders key supporter later this hour. Stand by for that. On the republican side, inside the party, growing louder and louder criticizing donald trump over comments about a federal judge in the Trump University case. Trump is saying that because of the judges mexican heritage, he cant be impartial in the case against Trump University. Here with me is cnn analyst, gloria borger, dana bash and david gregory. The Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell one of several major republicans, gloria, saying that what donald trump is saying is completely wrong. Hes got to fix this. I see no signs at all of donald trump backing down. If anything, hes doubling and tripling down. This is a civil suit. And its about business. And if you notice donald trump, hes so passionate when he talks about his business deals and his business dealings. Hes not going to back down on this. And this is what republicans feel is so reprehensible about this because hes effectively equating someones ethnicity with bias. Which would mean if a woman were sitting at a judge on a case of, say, sexual assault, would she not be able to judge that case because shes a woman . Because of her sexuality . So if you start equating ethnicity with bias, it goes on and on. This is not what republicans want it to be about after the last election. They had the autopsy and said he had to be more inclusive. But this is donald trump making his case in a civil suit, and i think he cares almost as much about that as he does what republicans are saying if not more about winning this civil suit. Newt gingrich, the former house speaker, a strong supporter and rumored on the short list of Vice President ial running mate even said this is a bad mistake that donald trump has engaged in. Meanwhile, the war of the commercials, the ads, clearly escalating right now. Still a long time to go before november. But im going to play a couple of clips from a Hillary Clinton ad attacking donald trump and a prodonald trump super pac attacking Hillary Clinton and her husband. I want you to listen to me. I did not. I did not send classified material. Not a single time. And i did not receive. Never. Any material that was marked or designated. I never told anybody to lie. He says that when he questions whether the judge can be fair because of his mexican heritage, that is not racist. Do you agree . Look, i dont condone the comments. I completely disagree with the thinking behind that. Just as american as donald trump. These ads are getting pretty intense right now. Oh, very intense. And i think thats just the beginning of it. Probably. Never mind the ads, but just the paid television but what the candidates are saying in the earned media is pretty intense and i think the rhetoric is like we havent seen in many, many years. Maybe if ever. But i think just on the last ad to pick up on what gloria was talking about with regard to hispanics, its obviously beyond a fairness issue and whats right and wrong. It is heavily political. The fact of the matter is the hispanic population has exploded. It continues to do so in this country and its not just, i was looking it up. In states we talk about a lot. New mexico, arizona, even texas. The census showed alabama, the most reliably red state on a president ial level that we can even think of had the biggest growth of hispanics than any other state. Like 158 in the last census. That shows you just how important this group is as part of the American Fabric but more importantly, politically speaking, demographically and voting blocs. It explains why Mitch Mcconnell in the senate is so angry and upset that Donald Trumps words could alienate latinos that the Republican Party needs. Right. Were kind of beyond alienation. This is outright racism and bigotry. When can you remember the last time with major republican figures, leaders in the party, all disavowing these comments, calling on him to apologize, condemning the head of the Republican Partys remarks, an attack on the judiciary based on judges race. Its extraordinary and says how extraordinary the Trump Campaign is in its lack of any kind of strategic focus, on how hes going to act more president ial, as he said he would do, how hes going to create more addition here. How hes going to get more people to vote for him, whether theyreminorities, hispanics. Not only that, hes in the middle. Starting off a really bad week when he could spend time trying to attack his opponent consolidating support and get a popular president to put his thumb on the scale too. From a strategic political point of view, hes wasting a lot of time in addition to, i think, sending shivers up and down Republican Voters spines. These republican leaders, now theyve said theyre going to support the nominee or endorse him, one way or another, now twisting themselves into pretzels here trying to figure out how they can, on the one hand say, we support donald trump, on the other hand, we disagree with him on this particular issue. Which by the way is not a small issue, its a foundation of the constitution. You know, the separation of powers. So its a large thing that they have to sort of try and figure out a way around and i dont think they have figured out how to maneuver it and i also think, again, people underestimate Donald Trumps intensity when it comes to his business dealings. And the people that youre talking about are talking about saving the Republican Party. Right . And he wants to win this lawsuit. Are you suggesting hes more interested in winning the lawsuit or becoming president of the United States . I think youre on to something, gloria. I think if he sat down and said, this is one choice, this is the other, it will be a different answer but its so visceral for him to respond in a way. We know his m. O. For decade has been to sue, sue, sue. Thats what he does. So he has this intimate understanding, he thinks, of the judicial system and he likes to sort of work it with lawsuits, but this is a whole different ball game. Again, when hes running for president and questioning whether this person can act a certain way based on his heritage. Not many high level republicans come to his defense. Not on this. Quite the opposite. This isnt an ideological debate here. Everybody agrees this is a totally inappropriate thing to say. Second, not coming to his defense on other areas where hes been in tact. John wrote a good piece saying after Hillary Clinton went after trump on Foreign Policy, there was nobody to stand up for his views. So this is an attack on temperament and how thin skinned he is and organization and on his view of the world and nothing seems to be, nobody seems to becom coming to his defense. Lots going on. Stand by. Donald trump reversing his stance on several Foreign Policy issues, walking back previous positions when it comes to libya, iraq, Nuclear Weapons. More on that. Leon panetta, you see him live. The former cia director. Mr. Panetta standing by to join us live. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm. The turbocharged dream machine. The Volkswagen Golf gti. Part of the awardwinning golf family. Be the you who doesnt cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Be the you who shows up in that dress. Who hugs a friend. Who is done with treatments that dont give you clearer skin. Be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. Stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. Some serious infections require hospitalization. Before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. 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For joint health, its time to start believing again. Donald trump said Hillary Clintons Harsh Criticism over Foreign Policy plans could come soon as today. Trumps views questioned after a reverse course on issues ranging from the war in iraq to nuclear proliferation. This weekend, donald trump change his position on libya. Again, heres a quick look at his evolving opinions starting back in 2011. Qadhafi is killing thousands of people. Nobody knows how bad it is. We should go in. We should stop this guy, which will be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically. Stop him from doing it and save these lives. I never discussed that subject. I was in favor of libya. We would be so much better off if qadhafi was in charge right now. I was never for a strong intervention. Ic s icould see surgical. Leon panetta. Endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. Thank you very much, mr. Secretary, for joining us. Thank you. Nice to be with you. When you hear donald trump make those various statements on libya, for example, youre a former cia director as well. What goes through your mind when he seems to be changing his views on some very, very sensitive issues . My biggest concern is that hes running for president of the United States, and were dealing with a very dangerous world. And i frankly dont know what his positions are when it comes to all of these threats that our country is facing. He takes one position one day and then another position the next day. And i think secretary clinton tried to point out that in her speech last week that this is a dangerous approach for someone who wants to be commander in chief of the United States. I worry that its sending a signal to countries abroad that a candidate for president of the United States really doesnt know what he really wants to do when it comes to protecting our national security. And when he says, you know what . If japan got Nuclear Weapons, for example, to defend itself, if japan wasnt paying the u. S. More to keep u. S. Troops in japan and have the Nuclear Umbrella protect japan from the threat, lets say, like north korea, when he said, what would be wrong with japan getting a nuclear arsenal, you say what . Id say, its very dangerous for a president ial candidate to shoot from the hip when it comes to dealing with issues in the world. And in particular, dealing with nuclear issues. You dont just casually remark that japan ought to have Nuclear Weapons or south korea ought to have Nuclear Weapons or saudi arabia ought to have Nuclear Weapons or that it ought to have a big problem if these engage in a kind of war with north korea. That attitude is an embarrassment and also irresponsible when we are dealing with very serious issues. The time has come to get beyond the primary and the insults and the attacks and personal attacks. The time has come, if hes serious about running for president , to have a serious conversation with the American People about just exactly what does he stand for when it comes to protecting our national security. Were not getting that kind of conversation with donald trump. I know you want Hillary Clinton to be the next president of the United States. You worked with her when you were in the obama administration. She was secretary of state. One of the main points, donald trump has against her is said she pushed and pushed to get qadhafi out of libya and look where libya is today. They have been bad with qadhafi but look at the failed state in libya today and Hillary Clinton bears a lot of the responsibility for that. I want to get your response. Look, i think it was important to go after qadhafi. At that point in time, he was threatening to kill a lot of innocent people in libya. And it would have been wrong for the United States to turn our backs on that kind of catastrophe. So we did go to war in libya. And we pulled together a very Strong Coalition of nato countries, arab countries, all countries working together to bring down caqaddafi. It was the right thing to do and i think it was the right thing to have leaders in libya to try to come together to put that country in the right direction. I think theres a lot of responsibility here in terms of why things went wrong. I dont think the International Community supported libya the way we should have. I dont think the United States provided the support system that we should have. And i think as a result of that, we did not see libya pull together and be able to establish a stable government and its when instability takes place as weve seen throughout the middle east that groups like isis take hold and thats what were seeing today. And president obama acknowledged there wasnt a good followup plan in place after you get rid of qadhafi, then what, the u. S. Didnt think that thr through enough but said Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and didnt have a plan in place to make sure libya would be a stable place following the removal of qadhafi. Your thoughts . I think there was a lot of efforts to do what we could to support the effort at trying to establish a stable lib yan governme government. Unfortunately, not the strong efforts we needed to provide a strong support system for libya. I think the argument isnt whether or not we try to help libya. We did. The issue is, did we try hard enough . I dont think we did. Mr. Panetta, stand by. We have more to discuss. Up next, the u. S. Led coalition closing in now on isis and fallujah. Killing men, women, and children trying to flee the violence. Thousands of civilians still stuck in fallujah right now. Our conversation with the former defense secretary, leon panetta, continues right after this. 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Syrian army pushed into a province near raqqa for the First Time Since 2014 trying to push to raqqa city itself. The selfproclaimed capital for isis. They storm the first neighborhood in southern fallujah over the weekend. The city has been held by isis since 2014. As many as 50,000 residents have been remained trapped in fallujah and saying isis uses civilians as human shields and shooting at those trying to flee. Lets bring back our guest, leon panetta. The situation involving isis in iraq and syria, is it clear to you that theres progress being made against isis . How long will it be to destroy, to defeat isis in iraq and syria . Wolf, i think its something we all understand that isis represents a clear and present danger to our country, and to countries in that part of the world and elsewhere. And for that reason, the president set the right mission, which is to defeat isis. If were going to defeat isis, a quasi state, weve got to remove them from the territory they control. Raqqa and syria to mosul in iraq. Those efforts have begun. Theyre obviously difficult. Its not easy to be able to develop the Effective Ground force you need to try to get it done. We use the iraqis and other forces in syria to be able to do this. But the United States is there. Our trainers and advisors are there. Were going to provide air support. What we have to do is energize that effort and push it. If we are to defeat isis, we have simply having to remove them from the territories that they now control. Why is the Iraqi Military so inept right now . They cant even go into the second largest city in iraq. Mos mosul, and destroy isis there. Theyre trying to do something in fallujah. This is an army thats been trained by the u. S. , armed by the u. S. U. S. Taxpayers have spent tens of billions of dollars, maybe hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build up the military and today, theyre so inept. I think the problem, what has happened is that that country gave way to sectarian divisions that still impact on iraq. The difference is between shias and sunnis and kurds is very deep in that country. And unfortunately, its affected, their security capability. When we left iraq, i think the reality was that the armed forces did work together. Sunnis were part of it. Kurds were part of it. Shias were part of it and that has collapsed. Now to try to put it back together again into an effectively force means trying to cut into the tribal differences. If we have an Effective Ground force, weve got to be able to break the sectarian divide. Provide sunni forces, shia forces, kurd forces working together if were going to be successful. One final question before i let you go. Is it time to partition iraq into kiyrgyzstan and a separate shia country . Theres a long debate about whether or not we should do that but every time i talk to the iraqis, they almost to a person refuse to have iraq divide up into shia and sunni and kurdish areas. They want a country. They want iraq to be one country. What theyve got to do is understand that they have a responsibility to govern together and to operate under those institutions that would bring all of these tribes together to maintain one country of iraq. I think thats the better course of the future. Mr. Secretary, as usual, thank you very much for your insight. Thank you, wolf. Up next, decision time for Bernie Sanders. With Hillary Clinton on the verge of potentially clinching the democratic president ial nomination and an expected endorsement maybe early as this week from president obama, what will senator sanders next steps be . We have details of a reported split within the sanders camp. What should happen next. Stand by. Well update you. With the lobster and shrimp. 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Hes expected to answer reporters questions about his campaign and his vows to keep fighting Hillary Clinton past tomorrows california primary even as she potentially could secure enough delegates needed to win the nomination. Joining us, jonathan tacidia and author of an important book. The essential Bernie Sanders and his vision for america. Jonathan, thank you very much for joining us. I want to get your action. President obama apparently ready to endorse Hillary Clinton early as this week if, in fact, she effectively clinches the nomination. Whats your reaction to that . Well, good to be with you, wolf. I want to start with a kind of a plea speaking as a journalist myself. We not talk about anything having to do with clinching or that shes going to secure enough delegates tomorrow. Nobody is going to clinch the nomination tomorrow. We are only going to know who the nominee is at the convention when the pledge delegates and the super delegates vote and there could be some change in that. At the same time that i wont question the president s right to do whatever he wants to do but i think an endorsement waits. Its possible that Bernie Sanders will be the nominees depending on the roughly 50 days between june 7th tomorrow and the Convention Roll Call vote. If you lock at the math, you have seen it, our viewers have seen it, she is by our count and the count of others, only about 26 delegates away from reaching that magic number of 2,383. Let me give you a little history of what happened eight years ago. I remember it very, very vividly. Ill play a clip. June 3rd, 2008, when we projected that thensenator barack obama had enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination over Hillary Clinton. Listen to this. Cnn can now project that senator barack obama has enough delegates to secure the democratic president ial nomination. Senator barack obama goes over the threshold, goes over 2,118 delegates. He will be the democratic president ial nominee. All right. That was eight years ago. June 7th of that year, Hillary Clinton formally conceded. She dropped out. She immediately went to work to try to help thensenator barack obama win the presidency. That was based then on super delegates that he had in his pocket. Do you foresee a similar scenario unfolding in the coming days . Well, i cant get into Bernie Sanders mind. I dont know what hes going to talk about, perhaps the next half hour. He is clear and ill say for myself im willing to stand behind him all the way to the convention and fight on the floor for him to be the nominee. I think its a little bit different. Ill tell you why, wolf. Unlike the primary of 2008, and the reason many of us are sticking with bernie right to the end is when he talks about a political revolution, he really, really means this. Theres a fundamental difference of what he espouses and the status quo candidate Hillary Clinton espouses. A difference of where the country is going, should go and what the party should look like. So we want to have that debate. We want to take it all the way to the convention because of the different vision. Ill add this. I think bernies clear in a couple of ins. Back during the debates he said on her worst day, Hillary Clinton is a thousand times better than donald trump. And i think that Hillary Clinton said roughly the same thing about Bernie Sanders. Theres no doubt whoever is the nominee that other people supports the nominee to defeat donald trump. Thats something we share. Jonathan, thank you for joining us. Pleasure to be here, wolf. 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I have x1 from xfinity so. Dont fall for directv. Xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. I used to like that song. With the Olympic Games less than two months away fears over the spread of the zika virus are growing. Senior International Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh results. Reporter born into a struggle that grows as they age. This clinic is where the disease of zika is cruelest in brazil. Even with what happens when babies with microacceptly grow and so do their problems. Unable to tell us the pains, agonies they may or may not be feeling. Or what we can do to help. Translator it was when he was born and faced the other people in the hospital. Their expressions, seeing and accepting the difference for me that was the hardest phase. Reporter works out how quickly it could spread here at ground zero, theres different problems of working as they grow older, quite what the disease means for their development. Artur cannot eat. Doctors say the brain cant switch between breathing and feeding properly and fed by a drip and stunted in growth. The size of a 3monthold but he is now 8 months. Theyre testing the hearing, seeing if he turns his head to look. A little to the right, to the left. Nothing. This is how it goes here. Every minute, discoveries that alter the childs future. Victoria abandoned by her natural mother at birth. Adopted by kelly a month ago. Translator when we saw her, we fell in love with her. I didnt want to know what she had. She is my daughter. Reporter and today, may change her life. Shes having her eyes stimulated, fitted for glasses to find out if she can see at all. Its hard to tell what she sees, if the bright lights became real shapes. With lahandra its more palpable. Her first sight. But still, her arms stiffen straight. Her underdeveloped brain telling them to do so. They talk of prejudice, days ferrying children between specialists, doctors. Of being fired from work because of that. Of a lack of state money to pull them through. This is the world that zika brings and here and globally it is only beginning. Nick paton walsh, cnn. Thats it for me. The news continues next right here on cnn. All right. Thank you so much. Im brooke baldwin. Thank you for being with me on this monday. Just as democrat Hillary Clinton is expected to make history as the first female nominee, donald trump seems to be undoing the party unity hes built since becoming the Presumptive Republican nominee. Clinton expected