Transcripts For CNNW Wolf 20160810 : vimarsana.com

Trump campaign in florida and virginia and mike pence in ohio. Clintons touring of a company in des moines set to happen this hour and the following hour trump gives a speech in virginia. So what exactly did donald trump say to set off this latest uproar and what did he mean . Listen to the comment he made at a rally in wilmington, north carolina, that started all of this. Hillary wants to abolish essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I dont know. Ill tell you what, that will be a horrible day if hillary gets to put her judges a lot of people interpreted that remark as a threat against Hillary Clinton but in a fox interview trump agreed with Sean Hannitys interpretation that the remark referred to political action. Nobody in that room thought anything other than what you just said. This is a political movement. This is a strong, powerful movement, the Second Amendment. Hillary wants to take your guns away and leave you unprotected in your home. There can be no other interpretation. Even reporters told me. Give me a break. Lets bring in Gloria Borger. Will this affect Trump Supporters the uproar thats developed . Probably not. The problem for trump politically is he has to get more than Trump Supporters that he currently has in order to win the presidency. He needs independent voters. Many of whom are making up their minds right now. Theres a bloomberg poll out today which shows that hes gone down seven points with independents. The New York Times poll shows hes down 13 points with republican, College Educated white women. These are republican women that mitt romney did so well with and overall, hes down 23 points with women. These are people he needs to kind of persuade into the yes column and saying things like this, whether its a joke or not a joke, if you take his interpretation or you dont, doesnt give people the confidence that he will choose his words wisely if hes the commander in chief and that question is very big out there if you look at the polling. Hes asking voters to give him the benefit of the doubt. He is. The problem is, sure, they might give him the benefit of the doubt if this were six months ago. The problem is weve seen the movie before, wolf. He comes out and he says something that starts a category 5 hurricane, right . Then the campaign and the candidate walk it back. Theres a shovel brigade that goes on and then some republicans as weve been seeing and independents say i cant take it anymore. Im not going to support donald trump. His supporters remain where they are. But again, it goes to this temperament question. Six out ten voters believe he does not have the temperament to be president. This does not help him persuade any of those voters at all and its a gift to Hillary Clinton who as you know and youll talk about it later in the show has her own problems percolating on her emails and the trust issue. Well get to that soon as well. When he says that Hillary Clinton would effectively end the Second Amendment to the constitution, changing the constitution is not an easy procedure. She cant do that. As you know, it takes super majorities of the congress and super majority of the state to approve any changes to the constitution whatsoever. What he means, i believe, is that if theres an assault weapons ban, for example, she would open the door toward some kind of major gun control, which by the way she wants. Can she repeal single handedly the Second Amendment of the constitution . Absolutely not. Its a lot of work. Again, super majorities of both houses of congress and super majority of state legislature. Its a long process that doesnt happen automatically. Glory, thanks. Dont go too far away. More to discuss. Im joined by a gun owner, Second Amendment supporter for whom the issue of gun violence is deeply personal. Mark kelly is a former Navy Combat Pilot and nasa astronaut and husband of former u. S. Congresswoman Gabby Giffords almost killed by a deranged killer five years ago. I know you founded Gun Violence Prevention Group called americans for responsible solutions. Lets talk about trumps latest words. Usually hes often said stuff thats unusual blowing up political boundaries if you will, but you believe this is different this time. Tell us why. Well, i mean, its very incendiary comment that could promote unstable individuals to take action. You know, i dont expect that he wants Hillary Clinton or a justice to be shot but using this language could prompt the wrong person with a serious problem with their state of mind to doing something horrific. The assassination of an elected leader or a judge, weve seen this in our history and its not too difficult to push somebody over the edge. Your organization issued a statement along those lines saying responsible stable individuals wont take trumps rhetoric to its literal end but his words may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed. In this particular case, do you give donald trump the benefit of the doubt that he really wasnt suggesting that violence be used against Hillary Clinton . Hes running for president of the United States. I mean, think ahead if donald trump was elected to be president and said these kind of comments week after week. Its not only folks having to decide if theyre going to vote for him. We had adversaries and allies out there, other nations that will have to try to figure out what he meant. If he meant that this was a political movement, he should have been using the words poll or going to the polls or vote. Not Say Something that would prompt an unstable person to pick up a gun and shoot somebody. I know that you and your wife, Gabby Giffords, both strong supporters of Hillary Clinton right now. Do you worry that republicans who support gun rights might be swayed by trumps arguments here about her possible Supreme Court nominees who could change the law, if you will. Not necessarily change the Second Amendment to the constitution but go forward with more gun control initiatives . I dont think from these comments certainly. These comments most people would find are very objectionable. Hillary clinton says she supports a Second Amendment. Gabby and i support the Second Amendment. Were gun owners. She talks about strengthening our gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of unstable people, felons, domestic abusers, terrorists. It doesnt even seem that mr. Trump understands that its not even in the president s constitutional powers to change an amendment to our constitution. That is with congress. You know, i mean, this is just one thing after the next that makes it very clear that if we want to elect a president that is serious about protecting communities and families from gun violence and will stand up to the gun lobby, when its very clear that that person is Hillary Clinton. Mark kelly, thanks very much for joining us. Youre welcome. Amidst this, Hillary Clinton is put on the defensive today as newly released emails from her time as secretary of state are raising new questions over possible ties between the state department and the Clinton Foundation. These never before seen emails were released by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group. 296 pages in you a including dozens that Judicial Watch claims were never turned over by clinton to the state department for an investigation. Our Senior Investigative correspondent drew griffin has been poring through these emails. Drew, what the evidence here that there could be possible influence, if you will, by the Clinton Foundation over the state department . The new batch of emails being released shows what we have seen over and over again and its intermingling of interests and donations and favors being done between Hillary Clintons state department, the Clinton Foundation and the donors who apparently have easy access to both when they need help. These are emails from 2009. One involved the guy in the baseball cap. Hes a nigerian lebanese billionaire. He and his brother, brother on the other side of this picture, are deeply involved in a Clinton Global Initiative real estate project in nigeria for which bill clinton took part in opening ceremonies. Gilbert is also listed as giving between 1 million and 5 million to the Clinton Foundation. Enter this newly released email chain. The email is from the guy running the Clinton Foundation at the time and now runs another clinton connecting firm. Hes telling two of Hillary Clintons closest aides at the state department that they need to put clinton donor Gilbert Chagoury in touch with the substance person in lebanon and that hes a key guy and that they call ambassador to lebanon so they can connect with each other. Other emails show cozy relationships between Morgan Stanley executives and Hillary Clinton. Morgan stanley a big donor to both Hillary Clintons campaigns and the Clinton Foundation. Theres requests for favors, finding people jobs, intermingling of emails between state, Clinton Foundation and others and the overall effect as one congressional investigator told us, wolf, its really hard to tell where any lines are drawn between the clinton state department, the foundation and later even this consulting company. Clinton campaign tried to explain emails like this in the past saying theres no direct evidence any favors were done but to many watchdog groups, thats not a good enough answer. Government employees have rules that apply. Theyre supposed to avoid actual conflicts of interest, but theyre also supposed to avoid appearances of conflicts of interest. Here you have some companies and some lobbying shops close to the Clinton Administration and at that point Hillary Clinton was working in the state department. So you do wonder if there was some kind of impartiality or treatment given to these parties that didnt go to everyone and thats not how our government is supposed to work. Blurred lines that these emails show. A lot of smoke. No real fire and the Clinton Campaign trying to sluff it off as being just that. Wolf . Some of Hillary Clinton supporters are saying that these emails, these nearly 300 pages of emails were from Clinton Foundation individuals and Hillary Clinton aides at the state department, but she herself was not in these email chains. She wasnt ccd or actually sending or receiving these specific emails, is that right . That is what they are saying and trying to draw a very strict line between Hillary Clinton herself and what we know to be her two closest aides. A lot of republicans who have been investigating this in congress are not buying those excuses. All right, drew. Thank you very much. Drew griffin reporting for us. Well continue to follow both of these developments involving the Hillary Clinton campaign as well as the donald Trump Campaign. Lets take a quick break. Much more right after this. Mapping the oceans. Where we explore. Protecting biodiversity. Everywhere we work. Defeating malaria. Improving energy efficiency. Developing more clean burning natural gas. My job . My job at exxonmobil . Turning algae into biofuels. Reducing Energy Poverty in the developing world. Making cars go further with less. Fueling the global economy. And you thought we just made the gas. Energy lives here. Farm fresh ingredients, stepbystep recipes, delivered to your door for less than 9 a meal. Get 30 off your first delivery blueapron. Com cook. Hiim here to tell homeowners that are sixtytwo and older about a great way to live a better retirement. Its called a reverse mortgage. Call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. It answers questions like. How a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money. And more. Plus, when you call now, youll get this magnifier with led light absolutely free when you call the experts at one reverse mortgage today, youll learn the benefits of a governmentinsured reverse mortgage. It will eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and give you taxfree cash from the equity in your home and heres the best part. You still own your home. Take control of your retirement today that can camp out in between our teeth, if well let it. Use gum® brand. Softpicks®. Proxabrush® cleaners. Flossers and dental floss. Gum® brand. Donald trump is dealing with fallout over what many perceive as a threat of violence against Hillary Clinton. As we know, trump has a history of making inflammatory remarks. You can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever. Now the poor guy. You ought to see this guy. I dont know what i said. I dont remember. Where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters, okay. Russia, if youre listening, i hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. If you look at his wife, she was standing there. Had nothing to say. Maybe she wasnt allowed to have anything to say. You tell me. Plenty of people have written that. Dont worry about that baby. I love babies. I hear that baby crying. Actually, i was only kidding. You can get the baby out of here. Thats all right. Dont worry. Lets bring back our chief political analyst Gloria Borger and senior political report eee niamalika henderson and every time theres a new controversy people say this time trump crossed the line but he still keeps on going and going and going. Its like the world record in the olympics. The line keeps moving. This is a different context though. We went through this as i was saying before. Weve seen the movie. We went through this pretty much during the primaries quite often. It doesnt affect Trump Supporters. His supporters are solid. The difference that were seeing now is the people who are saying ive had enough are people who were thinking about trump. And thats his problem. Its those independent voters who were thinking about trump. Its republican women who were thinking about trump and its some republicans, republican men, who were thinking about trump. Its the National Security letter. The thing keeps piling on. I think at some point he has to get above his threshold and attract a wider base to start winning in those battleground states and those polls are looking dicey in some of those states for him. If hes going to win those battleground states, he needs to not only maintain that solid republican conservative base, hes got to bring in undecided voters, independents and maybe some democrats. He does. I was at a focus group last night of walmart moms from ohio and arizona. They have significant problems with donald trump even the ones inclined to support him. The republican women that glory was talking about. They talk about his lack of a filter and that his mouth gets him in trouble. They say he just says whatever comes to his mind. This is a problem. We can see already in these polls in pennsylvania, in florida, in ohio, these are states hes going to need to win. He cant just rely on these Southern States that hes obviously going to win. Red states. Hes going to need to expand. This was supposed to be the week where he reset. We had the economic speech on monday and again hes step on his own message. How much of a problem does Hillary Clinton and her campaign have as a result of these latest emails that have just surfaced . You heard drew griffins report. This is just a continuation of a naked narrative about Hillary Clinton and her state department tenure and also her campaign. Its secretive. They are hiding something. When these things come to light that there may have been quid pro quo, no proof of that yet but its shady. That hurts her because of the honest and trustworthy numbers. Shes getting an edge of donald trump and its sort of like two steps forward, one step back as these things keep rolling out. You have to really question why they didnt put it out last year instead of this constant drip that we have three months before election day. These arent just aides to Hillary Clinton and bill clinton. These are closest aides. Closest aides and they are acting on their behalf. She may not have known about these emails. She wasnt on these emails but they were acting on her behalf and on behalf of the Clinton Foundation. 60 of voters dont trust her. The good thing for Hillary Clinton is that 59 dont trust donald trump either. Its kind of a wash right now. It does play into her narrative and donald trump has been handed a couple of gifts, right . The email is a political gift to him. The fact that the father of the orlando shooter showed up at a Hillary Clinton rally is a gift to donald trump, which he did not talk about. So the question is now whether as a president ial candidate and his campaign can get him back on track to kind of start taking advantage of these two things that have been just set on his doorstep. Hes tried to talk about this before. He called the state Department Hillarys private hedge fund and hes been insinuating that theres some kind of corrupt relationship between the Clinton Foundation on the state department but can he keep hammering that home and get the entire Republican Party on the same message about these emails . He has a couple rallies coming up today. I suspect well hear a lot more of Hillary Clintons email problems and the father of the killer from orlando. I suspect hes going to be talking about that considerably later today. I think youre right. Again, can he stay on task. Does he feel slighted by these Second Amendment reaction to his comments yesterday . Thats always been his problem. He keeps on going back to these old fights and addressing them ad nauseam and then because of that he sort of lets Hillary Clinton go. Weve seen this a couple different times with him. He says Something Else and theres another firestorm. Whether he can keep on message and stay on task of targeting Hillary Clinton is still an open question. Stick around. We have more coming up. Also coming up, Hillary Clinton calls out congress for leaving washington instead of handling the zika virus issues here in the United States. The governor of florida rick scott standing by to join us live. Well talk about that and a whole lot more. Well be right back. You do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. Your Insurance Company raises your rates. Maybe you shouldve done more research on them. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Just one of the many features that comes standard with our base policy. Call for a free quote today. Liberty stands with you™. Liberty mutual insurance. Pg i help customerss, how with their bills. Day . Theres different rates to fit different needs, so listening is a huge part of my job. Because customers want to know that you hear them. They have kids, they have families, they have priorities. I definitely understand that. I have three children, i was a stay at home mom, i didnt have money to pay the bills, and so i put myself in their shoes. And im going to do all that i can to lower their bills and to help their situation. To choose the rate plan that works best for your family, visit pge. Com rates. Together, were building a better california. Donald trump travels to florida tonight with 29 electoral votes, its the biggest prize of the battleground states. With the latest quinnipiac poll showing Hillary Clinton and donald trump neck and neck in florida. It will be a tough fight for both candidates. Trump may have one advantage. He has the endorsement, strong endorsement of Florida Governor rick scott. Governor scott is also chairman of the protrump superpac rebuilding america now. The group recently released this attack ad against Hillary Clinton. We came out of the white house not only debt broke but in debt. It didnt last long. A foundation was created and money started to roll. Speeches, connection, and donations. Governor scott is joining us live from tallahassee. Thank you so much for joining us. Hi, wolf. Tell your mom were keeping her safe in florida. Ill tell her. Lets talk about the latest uproar involving Donald Trumps claims that it was simply not advocating violence against Hillary Clinton with those socalled Second Amendment comments but did he cross a line . Was he sloppy in the way he spoke . Every candidate is different. He clarified what he was saying. Every candidate is different. I tell people this race ultimately is about jobs. This is about a business person that created private sector jobs and career politician who never created job growth in her life. Thats why we have rebuilding america now and it shows these emails, this is just clintons, doesnt pass the smell test. They walked out of office broke. Started the foundation. Now theyre worth over 100 million. Do you want him to issue another statement to go out there and say maybe i misspoke. Maybe i thought i was joking. I really wasnt. To clean up this controversy because you have seen the very, very angry reaction including from a lot of the independent undecided voters in your key battleground state of florida. You know, when i talked to anybody thats going to run for office, i said you need to be clear about what youre running on. I was clear in my race. I told everybody we were going to run on jobs. We added over 1 million jobs. Every candidate has to do that. Every candidate is different. But, wolf, we all know if you look at all of the polls, the election is going to be about jobs. Donald knows how to create jobs. Shes a career politician never creating a private sector job in her life. Shes going to visit your state. She was in your state yesterday. Trump will be there tonight. This new quinnipiac poll shows its a dead heat. 45 to her 46 . Shes slightly within the margin of error. A tie right now. The problem he has and you know florida well, hes not doing well with hispanic voters. Hes not doing well with africanamerican voters and with young people and with women. How does he change all that if hes going to carry your state . You know, wolf, i do what i did in 2010. I would talk to as many voters as i can and talk about how hes going to create jobs. He put out his economic plan this week. Hes doing something similar to what we did in florida. We cut taxes 55 times. We said we want businesses to keep their money so they can hire more employees and do more research and do more marketing to get more jobs. Thats what hes going to talk about that every second. An election is going to be who is going to help my family get back to work . I grew up in public housing. I know the importance of a job. Donald is going to talk about why his plan will get this country back to work. I need a partner in washington that will make it easier to add more than jobs that weve added. I need a real partner. You said that the zika virus now is a National Issue and not an issue just in florida. You say florida is the tip of the spear. About 21 people in your state with locally transmitted zika. You need resources, but the Republican Leadership in the house and senate are standing in the way from your perspective. What do you say to republican friends in the congress who are refusing to provide the funds you say you need . We have less than one square mile from downtown miami, only spot we think theres local transmission. Congress and the president have to start figuring out how to Work Together. I work with my legislature. President and congress have to Work Together. Congress should come back from recess right now and get a bill passed so we can have a partner. This is a national interNational Issue. Its not going to just impact florida. It will impact our nation. You think Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan, Republican Leaders in senate and house are threatening the people of florida right now by their refusal to come back into session and deal with the zika virus funding . I say the whole federal government has failed us. I put up state money. I allocated 26. 2 million. Feds are not doing their part. We asked for Additional Resources from cdc but the federal government needs to get to work. Congress needs to come back from research. President and congress have to Work Together to be a partner in this. Weve been able to control other issues in our state. We need the federal partner in this issue. Hillary clinton wants congress to reconvene but its your republican friends who are refusing to do so. Youre upset with them i assume. I Want Congress to come back from recess now, pass a bill, work with the president , get something done now. Weve asked for additional zika protection kits from the cdc. We need a plan to deal with fema from the president. We need continued support from Mosquito Control and we need a vaccine and research and figure out how to make sure we dont see more cases like this. Were keeping our state safe. We have one square mile. Less than one square mile and reduced that area but were doing the testing. Everything we can. A quick final question, governor. Donald trump praised you. He said when it comes to zeika n florida, he said you seem to have it under control. Have you spoken with him about it . Does he have a good appreciation of whats going on right now . I have not talked to him about stoozika. We prepare. I started preparing for zika back in february. Were ahead of the game. The federal government is behind the game. Whether its a hurricane or Tropical Storm or flooding, this state gets prepared. Thats what we do. Rick scott is the governor of florida, thanks very much, governor. See you, wolf. Have a good day. Still ahead, donald trump and Hillary Clinton each need a win in virginia to help them become president of the United States. Were taking a look at their ground game in that key battleground state and well also talk with a republican congressman from virginia who says he wont be voting for either of the two major candidates. vo stank face. A universal expression of disgust, often caused by inadequate cat litter. If you or your a loved one suffers from stank face, the cure is tidy cats. Its new and improved with guaranteed tidylock protection that locks away odors. So you dont have to face one more stank face. Tidy cats. Every home, every cat. Theres a tidy cats for that. I just wish it had been for a better reason. Me, too, but the eulogy that franks daughter gave was beautiful. I just feel bad knowing they struggled to pay for the funeral, especially without Life Insurance. I wish they wouldve let us help. But, it did make me think, though. About what . Well, that i could leave you in the same situation. I dont have Life Insurance, either. If something were to happen to me tomorrow, how are you pay for my funeral . Or my other bills . Nothings gonna happen to you tomorrow. You dont know that. I made a promise to always take care of you kids. Without Life Insurance, im not keeping it. Besides, i already looked into it and between my budget and health, well. You should call massmutual. They have a new policy called guaranteed acceptance Life Insurance. I got covered with one call, and it was an affordable option for reliable coverage. What do you think, mom . I think its time to make sure i keep that promise. If youre age 5075, its easier than ever to get reliable coverage at an affordable price. Call massmutual today for guaranteed acceptance Life Insurance. With no medical questions or exams, you cannot be turned down. With one phone call, you can get coverage ranging from 2,000 25,000, and premiums can start at less than 10 per month. Guaranteed acceptance Life Insurance can help your loved ones cover expenses such as funeral costs, remaining medical expenses and credit card bills. We have several payment options, and benefits are paid quickly and directly to your beneficiaries. They can use it for any expense they choose. For more than 160 years, our policyowners have mattered most to us. Massmutuals ratings are among the highest of any company in any industry. You can feel confident we can help you protect the people who matter most to you with guaranteed acceptance Life Insurance. Call massmutual today at this number. Call now virginia is a key battleground state in this years president ial election and could help decide the outcome of the race. Once a reliable republican stronghold, the state went for barack obama in each of the last two president ial elections. As cnns athena jones show us, the push is as different as the candidates themselves. Im reaching out to you on behalf of the Trump Campaign. Reporter the battle for virginia is being waged by volunteers like these. Are you planning on supporting hillary this november . Reporter working to identify and recruit supporters to help turn out the vote in this swing state. Thank you, Northern Virginia. Reporter with three months to go until election day, neither side is taking anything for granted. Virginia is absolutely critical. The road to the white house runs through the commonwealth and were committed to making that happen for our republican nominee. Its a very competitive state. We are going to do everything we can to win this one for clinton kaine. Reporter the clinton team had staff here since april and has 28 field offices with more opening this month. Much of their focus will be turning out voters in Northern Virginia counties, close to d. C. , an area with large College Educated population that has grown more diverse in recent years. Loudon county is a huge battleground. Second only to fairfax and theres a lot of swing voters and people who can be persuaded. Reporter once republican, Loudoun County voted twice for president obama in 2008. Its good to be back in virginia. Reporter and 2012. Hows it going, leesburg . Reporter helping him stop a decades long republican race statewide. We have to get everybody out. Reporter the real estate mogul has won over some Loudoun County voters. He says things like it is. I feel more that you can trust him. More than hillary. Its mainly a never hillary vote. Yes. I think she has way too much baggage to be president of the United States. Reporter but clinton supporters here are just as committed. I think competency is important. And she clearly has a lot of experience and seems to know what shes doing. Shes the best candidate for the job. Ive been a supporter of hers for a long time and in this particular case i think that she is certainly the better choice. Reporter the Clinton Campaign hopes tapping former governor and current virginia senator tim kaine as her number two will help her in the state. The Clinton Campaign has spent 5 million on tv ads in virginia while the National Rifle association has spent just over 260,000 on behalf of trump. The Trump Campaign hasnt spent any money on the airwaves but that doesnt mean republicans arent fighting hard to win here. Were working right now with our volunteers to identify as many republicans as we can and then as we move forward in the campaign, that will become persuasion, motivation to get out the vote. Reporter Trumps Campaign is leaning heavily on the Republican National committee for its get out the vote efforts. The rnc has been on the ground here since the beginning of 2015. My name is jacob. Im with the Trump Campaign. Reporter they have 40 paid staffers working with hundreds of volunteers to woo voters. And theyre not conceding Loudoun County where recent College Graduate is hoping the debates will help him make up his mind. Ill be watching them to see how the candidates distinguish themselves from each other. Our thanks to athena jones for that report. The Trump Campaign has seen a significant number of republicans jumping ship to support other candidates in this years election campaign. Joining us now from Virginia Beach is a congressman. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, wolf. So you are not endorsing, not backing, voting for the republican nominee this time. You are a republican. You say trump would be catastrophic if he became president. Who are you going to vote for . Im going to be voting for governor gary johnson. I made this clear. I made my case to the Second District of virginia prior to the virginia primary that the sum of all things that donald trump has said and done really is all of his adult life led me to the view that a Trump Presidency would really harm our nation. Im not a representative prone to hyperbole. I dont throw things out in the extreme. In this matter looking at the sum of his actions, i could not support him, what he said about any number of things, for example, the deliberate targeting of not only a terrorist but the terrorist family. I think the insult that he hurled at senator mccain was the first thing that got my attention that he really didnt understand our United States military. Virginias second Congressional District has the highest concentration of men and women in uniform in the country. By the nature of our commands, we have a disproportionate loss. Our gold star families are here. Many of them. And hes just disconnected on so many levels and i believe he would be a danger to our country. Youll vote for gary johnson, the wi libertarian party. Are you concerned that if others in virginia follow your lead that will effectively help Hillary Clinton backing someone who is a party that really doesnt have much of a chance of winning this overall contest . Wolf, this may surprise you here, but im ready to defend the proposition that governor johnson can win. Heres why. He can win virginia or win the presidency . I mean that he can thread this needle and win the presidency. Heres why. If we can get him up to about 15 in the polls, hell participate in the president ial debate. No one saw trump winning the nomination. At least early on. And i believe these same type of unusual real anomalies and forces kbeforce s against our country are present now in the general election. The level of dissatisfaction with the two nominees is so wide and intense, wolf, ive never seen anything like this. A republican is voting against the democratic nominee but not really for the republican nominee and conversely, democrats are voting against the republican nominee and not for their nominee. Ive had so many people, family, friends, across the political continuum say what are we going to do this fall . I struggle with that too. I cannot vote for donald trump in good conscience and Hillary Clinton is equally as unacceptable to me. I give credit to a young intern coming home from an event. He said, sir, are you considered the libertarian ticket . I hadnt. I needed to do that. Once i did, the more i learned about governor johnson and what he believes in and to your point, its not going to take votes from simply the republican ticket, though it will, it will take votes from the democratic ticket. I think that theres a pent up demand that will surprise a lot of people on election day. Lets see if they get to that 15 threshold and you are eligible to participate in the three president ial and one Vice President ial debates. Scott rigell, republican congressman from virginia, not going to vote for the republican nominee. Congressman, thanks very much. Thank you, wolf. Coming up, the department of justice here in washington blasting the Baltimore Police department in a scathing report revealing racial bias and behavior so egregious that several officers have been filed. Well discuss with the naacp president cornwell william brooks. Hes in baltimore. Lots to assess when we come back. Nt know where id be without it so when i heard about conartists committing medicare fraud. It made me so mad i wanted to give them the old onetwo one, never give your medicare number to get a free offer or gift two, always check your medicare statements for errors these crooks think were clueless, they dont have a clue its your medicare, protect it see more ways to fight fraud at medicare. Gov fraud scathing just released report from the department of justice here in washington has revealed rampant racism and discrimination throughout the city of Baltimore Police department. It found officers routinely making unconstitutional stops, searches and arrests, unnecessary use of excessive and sometimes deadly force. It also finds the police force disproportionately targets africanamericans. Lets talk about this and more. Head cht nof the naacp, cornell brooks. Whats your reaction . This is a damning indictment of the Baltimore Police department. We have a city where approximately half of the population, 300,000 people have been stopped and frisked. 96 of the time without a citation or an arrest. The majority of whom are africanamerican on the basis of variety of reasons. This is a damning indictment of the Baltimore Police department specifically, and policing more broadly. That is to say, this policy of stopping and frisking, zero tolerance is contusionally unconscionable, morally unjustified and really a plague against the american citizenry. You think baltimore is unusual in this type of situation or you think similar situations are going on right now in other major cities around the United States . Tragically, sadly, unfortunately, baltimore is not unusual. This policy of zero tolerance, stopping massive numbers of american citizens in their communities, on their streets, on the basis of race and ethnicity is widespread. So where we have literally a generation that has been profiled, that has been criminalized, that has been demeaned. In other words, this policy of stop and frisk could be translated as detain, demean and dehumanize. This is the case in Many American cities, and small towns. It is a policy that is not only unconscionable, it is ineffective. You cannot mount successful prosecutions. You cannot engage in policing without the trust and the engagement of the community. And so here we have a federal report that speaks very clearly in very specific terms about Police Officers not fulfilling their badges, not fulfilling their oaths, not honoring their badges by treating people with respect. When we have a Police Department where it has been found that crimes have not been investigated, and crimes such as, yes, using racial slurs, but also sexual assault. This is a huge problem. And we wish we could say its just baltimore. But those in the know, american citizens well understand, it is not just baltimore. Its american policing itself. Is progress being made . Because these problems, as you know, cornell, theyve been around for a long time. Progress is being made. The reality is there are cities around the country that have engaged in best practice policing, evidencebased policing, datadriven policing where they engage the community, they elicit the trust of the community and focus on deterring crime as opposed to racking up arrests at the expense of the civil rights and the humanity of citizens of this country. So, yes, there are cities that get it right. There are Police Departments that get it right. So we can be encouraged, we can be inspired by the best practices of Police Departments around the country. For example, we saw five Police Officers unfortunately, cornell, were out of time. But you and i are going to continue these conversations down the road. Thanks very much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Cornell brooks, president and ceo of the naacp. Thats it for me. Thanks for watching. You both have a perfect driving record. Until one of you clips a food truck. Then your rates go through the roof. Perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. And if you do have an accident, our claims centers are available to assist you twentyfour seven. Call for a free quote today. Liberty stands with you™. Liberty mutual insurance. Hi there, im brooke baldwin. Youre watching cnn on this wednesday afternoon. Were going to talk politics in a second. But we have word now that the 73yearold woman in florida was accidentally shot and killed by police. This was all during this live gun demonstration. Apparently there was live ammo and she was killed. The police chief is speaking. Lets listen. We have extended resources, including the presence of our department chaplains