Was 15 kilotons. World leaders issued rapid responses. President barack obama called the nuclear test a grave theft. The japanese Prime Minister said it was absolutely unacceptable. The president of south korea called kim jongun fanatically reckless. They are holding a closed door meeting in the Yunited Nations N two hours. We are joined by will, lisa and victor, joining us from washington. Will, you have been to north korea several times over the last few years. Probably more than any other western journalist. What is pyongyang up to . Kim jongun, when i was last in north korea in may solidified his power and lined up his leadership to develop north Koreas Nuclear program at a dizzying pace in the last several months and weeks. In addition to this nuclear test which caused a 5. 3 magnitude earthquake, still yet to are verified by the u. S. , still testing radiation levels, three missiles launch from the ground capable of hitting here in japan. The week before that, there was a submarine ballistic missile. That capable of striking anywhere in the south korean peninsula. What we are seeing is north korean leader, kim jongun, pushing forward despite International Sanctions and nearly universal condemnation, even from china. Throwing all of that by the wayside and aggressively growing these Weapons Programs at a pace far faster than any analysts have predicted. Alisa, you are joining us from Geneva Switzerland where Secretary Of State, john kerry, is negotiating with russia on a syrian peace deal. What is the Obama Administration trying to do about this situation. Reporter wolf, obviously, as will said, there is a growing concern about north koreas increased Weapons Programs and capability and provocation. Within hours of the nuclear test, President Obama was on the phone to south korea president pack, japanese president abe. They were already headed to the region to discuss north koreas program. They are calling that u. N. Security Council Meeting today. You remember in march, the u. N. Security passed the most biting sanctions against north korea. Their behavior has only worsened since then. Not really sure what kind of options the u. S. Has with the u. N. Security council. A lot will be about consultations with japan and south korea. President obamas statement that you mentioned, talking about as Commander In Chief i have a responsibility to safeguard the American People and ensure the u. S. Is countering against the north korean threat. The u. S. Has deployed the thad Missile Defense system in south korea, something they think can fend off against north korean missiles. This latest nuclear test, very concerning to the u. S. And its allies. Victor, you are an expert on the korean peninsula. How concern should folks in the United States and Around The World be about this latest test . Well, wolf, i think that from a u. S. Perspective, this is shaping up to be the Number One National security issue for the two candidates as we head into the election. I mean, this is a threat that is a threat directly to u. S. Forces in korea and japan as well as to the homeland. It is a prolib fer racial threat. North korea has sold every Weapons System they have perfected. They file quite confident they have made advances in terms of the warhead they can mass produce and put on a range of missiles, shortrange, mediumrange or the prototype, longrange missiles. They are designating mobile launch, reentry and all the nin things that are proponents of a fully advanced nuclear program. They are not there yet. Because they are advancing these capabilities, it is a direct threat to the United States as well as a direct security and proliver racial threat. I want everybody to stand by. Ed rice of california is joining us. He is chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee. Thanks for joining us. I assume he have been well briefed on this latest development, a serious concern across the board. What do we know . What are the north korean capabilities . What are they up right now . Ten kilotons is twice the capable we saw on their last test in january. This is a 5. 3 magnitude earthquake that resulted from this explosion. We know, yes, that they claim they can now miniaturize these and put them on a warhead including on a submarine. That puts many allies at risk. They are serial proliver ray tors. We also have an anecdote if we want to use it. Serial prolive raytors. They provide nuclear bomb capability information to other countries. Nuclear and missile. So we know they have traded information with pakistan over the years. We know they have traded information and Ballistic Missiles with middle eastern powers and north african governments. Part of this is the capability they have developed, the scud, for example. The official airline in north korea, we passed legislation where we could sanction and shut that airline down simply for the fact this it has carried scud missile parts. So what we need to do is utilize the laws that are on the books now as well as the new u. N. Sanctions that the Security Council passed. What we have is a failure to fully enforce those sanctions. The consequence it would have on north korea if we fully enforced it would be to shut off the hard currency that north korea needs to continue these Weapons Programs. What should the u. S. Be doing right now . One of the things we could do is go to china and say we know the only other way they are getting hard currency is because of the trade in commodities and coal and so forth that china is doing with its shipments it is receiving from north korea and sending back cold, hard cash, which is what the north koreans need to pay for these tests an missile parts. We could tell china these particular banks that are involved in this and these institutions, we are going to have secondary sanctions. We are going to impose the laws that we gave the administration the ability to impose on china so that just like some years ago when we shut down the chinese banks that were dealing with north korea when we caught north korea counterfeiting hundred dollar bills and using that money for their Weapons Programs. We could do that again. We need to see that kind of leadership. Speaking of china, i want to you listen to what donald trump told me about north korea earlier in the year in january. China has total control over them and we have total control over china in we had people that knew what they are doing, which we dont. We have no leadership in this country. China has to get involved and china should solve that problem. You agree with the republican nominee . Well, i think we would have to add this to the statement. In order to get china to solve that equation, china has to understand that we will sanction those banks again, those chinese banks that are transferring the hard currency. So, yes, it is true, it can be solved if china gets involved. Lets talk about the inducements that may be necessary. We have tried to tell the leaders in china, in our trips to beijing, look, you should not want to see the consequences of proliferation. If north korea develops this weapon, so will south korea, so will japan, so will taiwan. You dont want to see that arms race and neither do we. You need to become more proactive. My concern here is that leave teeing to their discretion isnt going to be enough. We need to use these powers that now the administration has under the bill i authored thats been sign into m law by the president , to tell china, there will be secondary sanctions on any Economic Activity you are engaged with in north korea. Our goal is to shut that economy down so they cannot continue this nuclear race program. Coming up, north korea, russia, syria, iraq, the war against isis. The next president of the United States will have a lot of national seb security Foreign Policy. Gary johnson, the Libertarian Party, you see him live. We will discuss National Security and Foreign Policy. Thats next. But did you know your eyes, your brain, and your joints really love them too . Introducing megared advanced 4in1. Just one softgel delivers mega support. Everyone thought i was crazy to open a hotel here. Everyone said its so hard to be a musician, but i cant imagine doing anything else. Now that the train makes it easier to get here, the neighborhood is really changing. Im always hopping on the train, running all over portland. I have to go wherever the work is. Trains with innovative Siemens Technology help keep cities moving, so neighborhoods and businesses can prosper. I can book 3 or 4 gigs on a good weekend. Im booked solid for weeks. It takes ingenuity to make it in the big city. I know more about isis then the imapprgenerals do. Age. S. John mccain, a war hero. Hes not a war hero, hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people that werent captured ok. Donald trump compared his sacrifices to the sacrifices of two parents who lost their son in war. How would you answer that father . What sacrifice have you made for your country . I think ive made a lot of sacrifices, built great structures. Ive had tremendous success, i think. Those are sacrifices . With north koreas claim to the fifth nuclear test, Foreign PolicyNational Security, certainly right now, a key Campaign Issue in this 2016 president ial race here in the United States. Lets bring in the Libertarian Party president ial nominee, the former republican governor of new mexico, gary johnson. Governor, thanks very much for joining us. Lets talk National SecurityForeign Policy. Huge issue right now. North korea, if you were president , what would be your response to the news of another north Korean Nuclear test. Wopt Xz Fob Molgds are ever ev. For months i have been saying that north korea is the threat today. At some point these Ballistic Missiles are going to work. With this test today, the explosion itself, the device, itself, is getting more potent. The missiles are flying a little bit further. This is the biggest threat. I think the only way we address this is through china. China recognizes this threat as much as anyone else. They are the number one Trading Partner of north korea and from a diplomatic standpoint, without china, this doesnt get resolved. There is no chance that north korea invades south korea from a conventional standpoint. We do have 40,000 troops in south korea. Imagine if we had 40,000 chinese troops in central america. So i think there is an opportunity. By the way, hey, they launch missiles into south korea. We have them covered with our nuclear umbrella. Thats the threat here. It is very real. Would you keep u. S. Troops along the Demilitarized Zone of south korea. I think there is about 30,000. Would you keep them . Would you keep the 60,000 troops the u. S. Has in japan . Would you keep those troops there or bring them all home . Speaking specifically about south korea, i think there is an opportunity to get our troops out of south korea. That would be joining arms joining hands with china to deal with this imagine if there were that many troops, 30,000 chinese troops in central america, we would be going crazy. We are kind of Making China Go crazy with our 30,000 troops in south korea, recognizing there is no chance that north korea invades south korea conventionally. Why do you say that . They have 1 million conventional forces north of the Demilitarized Zone. The south koreans have close to 1 million members south. They have huge numbers of missiles, artillery. I was in north korea a few years back. Why do you say there is no chance north Korean Forces would move against south korea . I dont think that capability exists. Of course, that would be the input that im getting right now. In fact, south korea is so far advanced, the economies are nowhere near comparable in scale. North korea is just not going to happen. South korea is more than capable of defending themselves. South korea is more than capable of defending themselves. North korea is not going to embark on a conventional invasion of south korea. The 30,000 or so u. S. Troops in south korea, you would bring home and the 40,000 in japan, you would bring home is that right . I think there is the opportunity to deescalate in both of those areas and by deescalate, to bring those troops home. South korea, there is a big opportunity. That would be inconjunction with china. That would be in conjunction with actually less senning this nuclear threat, which is very real. Lets talk about syria, another big threat. You caused a buzz yesterday when you said what is aleppo. A political question and i want to get back to National Security . Can your campaign overcome that flub, if you will . I hope so. I am very aware of the policy and going on the show yesterday Thinking Aleppo was an acronym. I take complete responsibility. I am running for president of the United States. I should have known what he was talking about. We werent even talking about it in the context of anything. That said, the policy that exists is aleppo is at the epicenter of whats happening in syria. On the east side of aleppo you have the regime forces, assad. They are fighting against the syrian, free syrian army, which we are supporting, that is also allied with the islamists. We are arming the free syrian army. Those arms are falling in the hands of the islamists. You have raqqa in the north. What would you do about raqqah . As president of the United States, i would have never gotten into this situation in the first place. I dont think that any time we support Regime Change that it has resulted in a safer world, that it has resulted in a less safe world. We are going to see the end to fighting isis. Back to what we are currently doing, we are backing the kurds fighting isis. The kurds are sideways with our ally turkey and turkey is not as much of an ally as they were, because of us having invaded iraq, Regime Change, Regime Change. This would be a Policy Difference from prior administrations. Given the slaughter thats going on in aleppo and elsewhere in syria, the thousands and thousands of people, hundreds of thousands, over the past four years, does the United States have a moral responsibility to help these people . Well, a responsibility to bring this to an end and you mentioned earlier that m kerry is negotiating. I am assuming this is taking place. The only way that the syrian situation comes to an end is with russia and, of course, we have the potential conflict with russia in the air that exists in this situation also. So it is a horrible situation that in my opinion can only be brought to an end if we involve russia directly in bringing back a diplomatic solution to this. Obviously, that would start with a ceasefire. One final question. It sounds like you agree with donald trump as far as russias getting involved with russia. As far as using china to deal with north korea. Are you a donald trund donald t these issues on the same page . On these issues, it sounds like it. Those that are participating in nato have pledged to give 2 of their gdp to their own defense. Social programs in europe have been able to flourish op the backs of us paying for their military defense. Gary johnson is the libertarian president ial candidate. Governor, thanks very much for joining us. Thanks very much for having me on. 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