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State Police Officers received a tip that the vehicle that we were looking for, the white ford fusion, was in a mcdonalds parking lot near erie p. A. Those receives responded. The vehicle fled from that area. There was a short pursuit in which the vehicle was stopped. As the officers approached that vehicle, Steve Stephens took his own life. The victims daughter says she wishes the search had ended differently. Brenda tells cnn, im quoting her, all i can say is that i wish he had gone down in a hail of one hundred bullets. Our correspondent sarah gannon is joeniining us live from cleveland. What can you tell us about how this unfolded . After 11 00, just more than two hours, someone called in a tip about that vehicle that has been broadcast across the country, that white ford fusion with temporary tags that they believed Steve Stephens was driving. Someone called in a tip that was in a mcdonalds parking lot near erie, pennsylvania. A state trooper, Pennsylvania State trooper saw the vehicle. Followed it. Pursued it. Brief pursuit. Was able to pull the vehicle over near buffalo road and downing road in erie county, pennsylvania. Shortly after Steve Stephens pulled over, authorities are telling us that he killed himself. He kille him before he was d. Approached by officers. Pennsylvania state Police Confirmed this in a tweet just before noon saying that they had pulled the vehicle over and that Steve Stephens was dead and shortly after that Cleveland Police and authorities here including the fbi and u. S. Marshals Office Confirmed with the Pennsylvania State police had tweeted out. We know that erie pennsylvania had been a focus of this investigation from the start. Shortly after the killing here in cleveland of 74yearold robert godwin. There was a ping detected from the suspects cell phone that erie police were investigating. A ping had been picked up and officers from cleveland involved in the investigation along with the fbi, they went to erie. They searched the area. When that search tunrned up nothing, that search was abandoned, but officers were told today were headed back there to continue searching when all of this unfolded. Now, the chief of police told us that, you know, this is an area where its very remote. A lot of places to hide. And that he you know, he said it was one of those many tips that was followed up on that eventually led to the end of this manhunt. Now, we had known from the beginning that Steve Stephens might be suicidal, but this might be the way that this ended. He had been posting on his facebook rants about being suicidal, about telling his mother that. Thats something that she also confirmed to cnn and the chief in speaking to the Community Today talked about the social media aspect of this and how that became a factor. Take a listen to what he said. I think everybody has learned from this. I think the people on social media kind of know the power and i think they know the harm it can do. So weve talked before aut people not living their lives on social media. And being truthful on social media and not harming people via social media. This is a prime example. This is something that should not have been shared around the world. Period. Now, i am learning right now, wolf, as we as you and i are speaking that they are looking for possible connections between the suspect and erie pennsylvania. One of the places that they are looking is the casino. We know Steve Stephens talked about the casino here in cleveland. He talked about gambling and losing everything. We know that Court Documents show he was having financial problems. That there were judgments against him. His wages were being garnished for nonpayment to landlords and im being told right now theyre also looking at possible connections at the casino in erie, pennsylvania, whether or not he may have been frequenting ta casino as well. Theyre looking at all possible connections to why this manhunt would have unfolded, would have ended in that location, wolf. And sarah, very quickly, the police chief said theyre still continuing clearly the investigation. Is there any indication that during the three day this is guy was on the run he had any assistance, any help from anyone . There is no indication at this point. They have been look sbog the people that he was talking to earlier today before this manhunt came to a conclusion. The police chief here said that they knew he had been in contact with people. That they had talked to some of those people . Some of those people were family. Some were friends. Theyre urging others who may have had contact to come forward. There was speculation by authorities that the fact that he had been on the run for this many days without any detection, no license plate was picked up, no additional pings from that cell phone that they believe that there was a possibility that he was being aided . But there is no evidence to show that he was being harbored in any way. At this point thats just something theyre looking into. But they have no evidence at this point, wolf. Sarah gannon on the scene for us in cleveland, ohio. Lets bring in our panel, Law Enforcements analyst art broderick and Cedric Alexander and deb farrick. Walk us through this. The suspect killed himself in the last few moments with the state police in erie pennsylvania. So what happens now . Nobody is surprised in Law Enforcement circles that he did end up killing himself. It was almost like the posting of the video and the killing of mr. Godwin was going to be his final big issue. He threatened to kill others afterwards and i think that was the tense part of this whole Law Enforcement search t. Its interesting that were referencing the casino. That actually would be a pretty good place to hide out. Why would that be . Theyre open for 24 hours. The only issue is that casinos have some of the best Surveillance Video going in this country, so if he was in there, if he was gaming, if he was just hiding out in there, there will be plenty of video of him doing that. If thats the only connection he has to erie, was he sleeping in his car, was he hiding out in one of the areas . Does he break into a cabin or hide out there . This is a very rural area and that is a distinct possibility. Cedric, youre not surprised at all this ends with his committing suicide. No, im not surprised at all. Typically in these types of situations we have seen this. I had somewhat predicted this along with many other Law Enforcement officials across the country. Im not surprised at all, wolf. But i think the important piece is at this point Going Forward is to really try to make sense out of where did this all come from . What happened to him over some course of period of time that led him up to this type of olen and heinous act in killing mr. Godwin who was totally unknown to him and just an innocent man . So hopefully a deep dive is taken into some of his social and psycho social history. So we can maybe garner or learn something of what was in the mind of mr. Stephens before he killed this man and took his own life. The Facebook Ceo Mark Zuckerberg is speaking at a conference about the video that showed stephens killing a complete stranger. The 74yearold grandfather was simply walking down the street. Lets listen in to see what he said just moments ago. We have a lot more to do here. Were reminded of this this week by the tragedy in cleveland. And our hearts go out to the family and friends of robert godwin, sr. We have a lot of work and we will keep doing all we can to prevent tragedies like this from happening. Mark zuckerberg the ceo of facebook speaking about the facebook connection to this murder. Deb farrick, its so sad to know that apparently just randomly this individual goes up to this grandfather, shoots him, and then posts the video online for his exgirlfriend. There are lessons in social media that everyone has to learn from this including zuckerberg. Theres no question about that. The chief of police said people have to learn to not live online and this kind of material should not be put on facebook or not have people people should not have aces. It is trauma tiezi he jufrt wt his girlfriend although he blames her for driving him essentially to do this. Hes also very angry at his mother as lchl twell. He went to his mothers house and told her according to his rant on facebook that he was suicidal and that he was going to go out and kill somebody and kill people. She didnt do anything. You can see his anger rising up. And he was a youth mentor and he worked in a place where he was trying to guide young people to do the right things. The chief of police in cleveland made this very clear is very much ongoing. This is not over. Theyve got to go. They have got to look at the car. Theyve got to see what receipts may be inside that car, where he was. Trace back where he may have stayed. Its a big area. There are farms. There are barns. They want to sort of close the loop on this and make sure that he didnt hurt anybody else. Thats what they were really afraid about because initially he said he killed other people. He even gives locations of places where he allegedly killed people before shooting mr. Godwin. They are concerned and their fear was that in this time on the run two days from sunday at 2 00 until just this morning that map he would have interacted with other people and caused greater damage. It doesnt look like he did. 400 tips came in, one vital. A mcdonalds parking lot. And he was pursued and he apparently killed himself as police approached. He didnt fire at them or anybody else. Theyve got to look back and make sure that is in fact the case. The ping go ahead. I was going to just ask, art, the Pennsylvania State police said they used what they call a pit maneuver to stop him and to capture him. Explain what a pit maneuver is. Its a fairly common technique used in Law Enforcement when a vehicle wont stop. When a Law Enforcements officer puts his red or blue lights on in a vehicle and youre in a pursuit with that vehicle. Its a maneuver thats trained. You have to be trained to know how to do it. A lot of these vehicles have extended bumpers from Law Enforcement. Basically what you do is you approach the rear of the vehicle generally the drivers side bumper and with your front bumper on the passengers side and try to just tap the vehicle to get it into a spin so that you get the vehicle to stop. It its used all over the country and it is a very useful technique. Effective in this particular case. This is over with right now, but theres still a lot people want to rlearn. Th social media aspect of this and try to make sure it doesnt happen again. And we have time now. The intense manhunt portion is over so now they can piece it all together. Art, thanks very much. Cedric, thanks to you. Deb, thanks as well. Up next, threats from north korea over their arsenal of missiles as the Trump Administration keeps talking about the next step. Well have new detaels ails andk with senator ben cardon. Lots to discuss. Heading to the midwest to top his plan to hire american and buy american. Is there a true folks of the plan . 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President trump is aboard air force one right now on his way to wisconsin where hell deliver his jobs message and sign an executive order on his hire americ american buy american agenda. President trump is also talking today about north korea and his strategy of secrecy. You look at Different Things over the years with president obama. Everybody has been outplayed. Theyve all been outplayed by this gentleman. Well see what happens. I just tonight telegraph my movies. Did we sabotage the north korea strike . I dont want to comment. What happens if north korea launches another missile . Well find out. Vice president pence meanwhile is continuing his swing through asia today with events in japan. He was in south korea yesterday. Today he talked with the japanese Prime Minister shinzo abe about the need for the United States and asian allies to stick together and keep up the pressure on north korea. In an exclusive interview with dana bash whos traveling with the Vice President in japan this morning, the Vice President echoed the president s take on a nuclear north korea. The president says its time for them to behave, to listen to the world community, and to s aside their nuclear ambitions, their Ballistic Missile ambitions. And be willing to join the family of nations. For my part, in some odd way its encouraging that theyre getting the message. And my hope is that theyll continue to get the message. Not just from the United States and here in japan and in south korea, but on an increasing basis from china and countries all over the world that long ago committed to a denuclearized Korean Peninsula. Joining us from baltimore, democratic senator ben cardin. Senator, thanks for joining us. Wolf, its good to be with you. The president says he wont telegraph his strategy on north korea. But has congress, and youre the ranking democrat on the Foreign Relations committee, have you been briefed on what that emerging strategy is all about . Im not aware of anyone in congress being briefed and i agree with the president , we dont telegraph our moves, but its important that we have a strategy. That strategy is shared with congress. He has not done that. It raises questions as to whether we really do have a strategy in regards to north korea or were just reacting to the current situation. The young leader of north korea is extremely dangerous. No mistake about it. You see how he takes out members of his own family. We cannot assume that hell make rational moves. That requires the United States to enter size Global Leadership on this issue. In an interview, a senior official says he could conduct weekly missile tests and all out war if provoked by the u. S. Whats your response to those very specific threats from the North Koreans . Well, our goal needs to be to change the equation for north korea. We have to change their way of thinking so they recognize that entering into an arrangement i their best way forward. The way to do that is to really isolate north korea. And that means china. China has to stop helping their economy. I dont know the results of the bilateral meeting between the two leaders, china and the United States, but i do than china can play a much more Important Role in convincing the North Koreans its in their interest to give up their Nuclear Weapon program. As you know, the North Koreans had a fail missile test over the weekend. President trump refused to comment on whether the u. S. Had a hand in forcing that failure, possibly using Cyber Capabilities or jamming communications. Can you shed any light at all on this . As you know, theres been a lot of speculation out there. I dont know. I dont have the specifics because i have not been briefed on the specifics. I do know that north koreas previous attempts that there have nowhere near the technology that we have or other countries have on missile technology, so its not surprising that some of their tests fail. We dont know whether its just because of their lack of technology and their lack of experience, but we do know that they are trying to perfect a long range missile which could be extremely dangerous to the United States National Security. So its something we have to pay close attention to. Especially if they could put a Nuclear Warhead on that missile, which theyre clearly trying to achieve as well. And referring to china, you just mentioned it. As you know, the president in recent days since his meeting with the chinese president xi, hes changed his tone. Hes treating them with much greater respect. This he points out because he now believes china will play an Important Role in trying to ease tensions or reduce the north korean threat. The chinese have a lot of influence on north korea. Do you believe hes moving in the right direction . I believe that we have to be very straight with china. We can do more than one subject at the same time. Its in chinas interest to redice tr reduce the threat on the peninsula. We have concerns about china on human rights issues. I dont think were doing our bilateral relationship any favor if we dont be very direct and straightforward on our concerns on all these fronts. So no, i was not satisfied because i didnt hear much about these other issues and china will ultimately do what they believe is in their best interest in regards to north korea. Weve got to make that calculation more favorable to what were trying to achieve and that is to remove north korea as a nuclear threat. While i have you, senate, a Quick Reaction. As you know there was a victory for the turkish president in that referendum giving him a lot more power. The state Department Says there were some irregular teities. President trump called turkey is an ally. Its up to them how their ghost is formed. They had a referendum. Their referendum according to what was announced passed by a slight margin. It does consolidate power. Theres concern about how that pow ser being consolidated. Theres been International Concerns raised about the integrity of the election. I think its prpt theimportant an independent valuation of these concerns and i would urge the turkish government to followup with a transparent review of what these concerns have been about. Senator card , thanks for jo us. Is it enough to dial back the escalating Nuclear Tensions on the Korean Peninsula . Ill speak with republican congressman adam kensinger. Hes a member of the House Foreign Affairs. Well talk about that and about the two russian bombers off the coast of alaska. Tech when your windshield needs to be fixed. Trust safelite autoglass. Our exclusive trueseal Technology Means a strong, reliable bond. At safelite, we stand behind our work. Because the ones you love, sit behind it. parents whisper jingle safelite repair, safelite replace. Cnn has learned that u. S. Air force fighter jets intercepted two russian bombers off the coast of alaska. The u. S. Says the intercept took place at International Air space yesterday. They say it was safe and professional. Illinois republican congressman adam ki Adam Kinzinger is a member of the House Foreign Affairs committee. Serves in the u. S. Air force. The what do you make of this development . A statement from the north american command saying two russian tu 95 bear bombers were intercepted by fighter jets. The intercept took place in International Air space. Walk us through what all this means. Especially at such a sensitive time right now, congressman. Well, so this is basically, you know, i hate to admit it, i hate to say it but its almost a rejuvenation of the cold war. Not where we have thousands of nukes pointed at each other on a hair trigger, but this is a show of force by the russians to show theyre still here, theyre still operating, this is what they used to do back in the day. Theres a lot of benefits to them doing it. They can see what our air defenses do. They can map out how our intercepts occur. This is the russians trying to show their teeth. I think the thing that americans need to keep in mind is, look, russia is an adversary. We need to be very concerned about them and pushing them back in areas. The Russian Military is totally incapable compared to the United States military. This is not like it was back in the cold war where you have equally matched forces. What youre suggesting, congressman, and you served in the u. S. Air force, this was not a mistake by the russian pilots of those two bombers that they inadvertently got close to the coastline. This was some sort of deliberate russian provocation . Is that what youre saying, to test the u. S. Ability to deal with that . Yeah. I mean, its if this was a mistake, they were way off and they had huge navigational failures. But im sure it was not a mistake. This was an attempt to come up as close as they could to our International Border to see what our reaction would be to show americans that the russians are still there and operating. Its like when we see russian migs buzz our destroyers in the ocean and buzz our carriers. This is part of their show of force. It used to happen during the cold war, but this is like a rejuvenation from their end of the cold war. What i worry about is somebody somewhere, a pilot on their side is going to make a mistake, get too close and well end up with a bit of a shooting conflict which we do not want. Thats a good point. It comes at a tense time internationally as far as National Security is concerned. North korea as you know, the Vice President mike pence says that its encouraging that north korea appears to be, quote, getting the message about stopping its nuclear threats, its nuclear activities. The Vice President says all options are on the table when it comes to north korea. What does that mean to you . Realistically, what are those options . Well, i think the last option, but an option before a north korea matters a Nuclear Warhead is a strike against their nuclear facilities. We know thats going to probably lead to a broader war and we dont want to get there. This is a complicated maneuver. You have three instruments of power. You have an economic, a military and a diplomatic instrument of power. In order to have a credible diplomacy with an adversary, you have to back that up with the threat. A credible threat of military force as well as the ability to use your economic instrument of power. Thats where you can sanction banks in china that do business with north korea. Thats where you can compel the chinese to give and take on some of these Economic Issues to say it is in your interest to hold, to rein in north korea. So this is a very complicated dance of International Foreign policy at play. I think this is the right move and i know its scary and its getting a lot of attention. The scariest thing is we wake up and find out north korea has the ability to strike america with nukes. One question before i let you go totally unrelated to the National Security threats. Today is tax day here in the United States. We have yet to see as you well know President Trumps tax returns for any, let alone this year or recent years. Sean spicer said he could not say if the president would ever release those tax returns. Is that distracting from issues like tax reform . He says a major issue on his agenda is major tax cuts, tax reform. Where do you stand as far as the president releasing his tax returns . Well, i think he should. We have a tradition in this country of seeing what the interest, the business interest, the financial interest of the person leading the free world is. And i think this has been a distraction to him. The vast majority of americans want them released, even though it doesnt rank necessarily in their highest priority area. I think it would be in his benefit to release them. I would call on him to release them and i think its just the right thing to do. Yesterday i spoke with one of your republican colleagues. He agrees with you. He thinks its the right thing to do as well. Want just democrats criticizing the president on this, but increasingly republicans as well. Congressman, thanks for joining us. You bet. Thanks, wolf. Adam kinzinger of illinois. Up next, turkeys controversial referendum. President trump called the turkish president to congratulate him. You dont let anything keep you sidelined. Thats why you drink ensure. With 9rams of prein and 26 vitamins and minerals. 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[car engine failing to start] [wind blows] yo wh ah he [gas pouring] [slurps loudly] [engine starting] [loud slurping continues] nc the Trump Administration is sending mixed messages about the outcome of of the referendum. Granted president erdogan unchecked powers. In a report observers criticized it saying the vote took place on an unlevel playing field. The state department here in washington citing those concerned added and we looked to the government of turkey to protect the fundamental right of freedom of all citizens regardless of their vote. The white house says President Trump called the leader of turkey to offer congratulations but did not raise concerns about the referendum the way it was conducted. In an exclusive interview with cnn becky anderson, the turkish president spoke about the call from the white house. Translator congratulated me for the outcome and we talked about our relationship in the forthcoming period. He shared with me his views about that and about syria. It would be better to have a facetoface meeting and to take forward our relationship in matters about syria and we agreed that we will have that meeting in due course. Lets discuss this and more with our cnn military and diplomatic analyst john kirby. The messages from the state department and the white house as far as the erdogan win seemed to be very different. They were. I think its indicative of the state department and white house that arent on the same page and arent necessarily communicating. What was interesting is the call came after the state departments statement was already released and its not clear to me there was any coordination about the call itself. About what was going to be transmitted and what opportunities he had when he made that call. Its a serious issue. Turkey is a nato ally, but theres enormous concern among so many of the other nato allies about whats going on inside turkey right now. And those concerns are wellfounded. Look, this is an administration. The Erdogan Administration that has been brutal in its crack da down on free press. Theyve been its virtually been a crack down. And for us to never take an opportunity to talk to them about the health of their democracy is a mistake. You can still have a healthy is cooperating with you against isis and turkey is, and still at the same time say look, we have legitimate concerns about how this referendum was conducted and about the pace of human rights in your country. Let me give you a Quick Reaction to what the secretary of Homeland Security john kelly said in an event here today. He was talking about the United States being a nation under attack from cyber threats, drugs, and terrorism. Listen to this. And as a coalition we lead wins against what are best described as conventional terrorist formations. The expectations that many of these holy warriors will survive, come back to their home countries where they would wreak murd murdero murderous havoc. Because many citizens of countries in our visa waiver countries, they can more easily travel to the United States which makes us and continues to make us the prime terrorist target. Is the United States the prime terrorist target right now . We are certainly a target for terrorist groups. No question about that. I would be anything less than honest if i didnt say that. So are other western countries. The whole basis for this jihad dy fight is to pushback. So yes, it is a target. We have and continue to have in place very strong vetting, very strong intelligence coordination, very Strong Defense relationships around the world that help insulate us somewhat. Doesnt mean youre going to get perfect insulation. These terrorists only have to be right i understand that. Yes, were a target and yes i think the Previous Administration as well as this administration are taking that threat seriously. Quick reaction on the other breaking story that were working. The north american command just reporting that two russian tu 95 bombers were intercepted off the coast of alaska on monday by two air force fighter jets. The fighter jets according to the statement were intercept to International Air space. It was a safe and professional intercept. You heard Congress Kinzinger saying this is not an accident. The russians are deliberately doing something to test the u. S. At a dangerous moment internationally. How concerning is this development . Well, they have been doing this. This isnt new. The last time i think we had an intercept was a couple years ago. So its a little fresh in that regard. I dont think i think you need to be careful not to make too much of it. It was international sar spaair they do it to us. Theyre constantly going to prod and poke and try to see what they can get away with, but this wasnt at all something that i think should raise too many hackles here. The good news is it happened in International Air space and our air force did respond and did intercept. And it is sort of as he says kinzinger, sort of reminiscent of the battle days of the cold war when these kinds of events were taking place a lot more routine routinely. Russia is certainly going to try to test the west as best they can. But this i dont think rises to the level of calling it a new cold war. All right. Thanks very much. John kirby. Our diplomatic and military analyst, were getting live pictures in from wisconsin. President trump will arrive there were told soon to speak and sign executive order to bolster his hire America Campaign pledge. How much of an impact can it have on creating former jobs. Ill ask his former economic adviser to size it up when we come back. You do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. Your Insurance Company raises your rates. Maybe you shouldve done more research on them. 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Trump believes he owes those midwestern states, those industrial states. So the idea of a look, you can take this both ways but do with the american company, not the chinese or mexican company. I think it makes sense. By the way, the best way ive told donald trump this many times. The best way to buy america, reduce the taxes and the regulations and jobs will come back. I do not agree on the cap on the h1b visas. These are physicists and top of the profession. Employers say we cant get enough. We need the people who are really smart and bril generalia. This creates more jobs for americans when they cant get the workers they need. So if the order goes out to buy american but what if the cost is so much more expensive to buy american steel, for example, than to buy steel from another country. Thats going to raise the deficit. Thats right. Thats why you can take this two ways. Within 5 or 10 of the cost, maybe you want to buy american. Youre right. If something can be produced in another country for 30 or 40 less, who is going to bear the cost . The american taxpayer. I think you can take buy american too far. Given the fact we have so Many Americans unemployed and factories closing down, this is a way to save american jobs potentially. And if you step too far with the buy american only, a lot of middle class families and working class families are going to go to walmart and buy School Supplies for their kids but if it has to be made in the United States, its going to be more expensive. I dont think thats what donald trump is talking about here. Hes not talking about that. Im just talking about the buy american, hire american. The whole theme, if it goes forward, it could wind up being it could be higher prices to people, no doubt about it. For example, if you only buy clothes for your kids made in america, which is a nice thing to say, obviously, its going to be more expensive. Buthats every americans choice. I try to buy american. You can afford it. A lot of americans think if its a choice between they are both priced near each other, you know, a lot of people think, i want to help the american worker, not the worker in india or Something Like that. My point, lets let every american make that decision. Thats why im not in favor of tariffs. Whos going to bear the burden of that . The consumers. You get an a in economics. Thats a regressive tax on the lowest income. I know a lot of republicans that like that hidden tariff. They think its a way to save jobs and in some cases it might be. Were going to have a big debate about this order adjustable tax. Do you support that . I like the idea of taxing what we import and not taxing what we produce in america. It has to be done right. I dont like the paul ryan plan so much. Did you give me an a in economics . Im impressed. For a Foreign Policy guy, well done. Stephen moore, thank you very much. 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