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Count on in this case. The lawyer and judge trying to sort through that criminal case in new york and the civil case here in los angeles. The lawyer, Brent Blakely for mr. Cohen, said he needed this day. This day was absolutely imperative in this case because he felt his client could be indicted in the next 90 days. He then motioned toward Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for Stormy Daniels, and thats what mr. Avenatti has been saying as well. The judge kind of shut it down and said, look, i know whats been said in the media, i know there is a lot of drama, but i want all that stuff in the media left in the media, and i only want matters relative to this court discussed here. There was one other thing that avenatti said that was interesting so far in this hearing that is still ongoing, saying that even if Michael Cohen took the fifth amendment right and this is a lot of what theyve been discussing in the courtroom today, why Michael Cohen has not declared definitively that he would take the fifth here in los angeles, meaning that if he was on the stand or if he was deposed, he wouldnt say anything other than, i plead the fifth. The judge and Michael Cohens lawyer seemingly coming to a conclusion that they would be filing that, or at least they would talk to mr. Cohen to see if he wanted to file a declaration that he would be pleading the fifth here in california. That would change the nature of the proceedings here. Avenatti coming back ask sayind, look, even if he takes the fifth, it doesnt matter. There are plenty of others that could testify in this case. The bank that wrote the check, mr. Cohens assistant. He even went so far as saying mr. Cohens spouse could be called to the stand depending on what that relationship is. So the judge really grappling, trying to understand how this overlaps with the new york case. Theyre still trying to figure out whether that stay would be implemented today for 90 days as the cohen team is asking, perhaps shorter if the judge decides that. If there is no stay at all, or in the unlikely possibility that cohen drops the entire case and Stormy Daniels is free to say whatever she wants. Wolf . Well watch the drama unfold over the next few hours. Youll bring us the latest as soon as you get it, Miguel Marquez in los angeles. Thank you very much. Lets bring in our Senior Analyst laura coates. What do you make of this development that the lawyer representing Michael Cohen, Brent Blakely, that cohen himself could be indicted in the next 90 days in a federal court in new york city . It seems like a pot shot of Michael Avenatti saying, you clearly would agree to delay this case because you yourself have told people in the media that you may be indicted. Obviously you would sign off on this and the judge would look at whether the other side was opposing the motion or not, whether its good to do so because they dont want to lose the parties interest. The second thing is the term overlap. Its so key here. If, in fact, there is testimony, there will be an indictment coming out of the district of new york in manhattan about Michael Cohen that mi impaay im the litigation in california. Every judge will think about that and consider it, because they dont want to have an unproductive proceeding. If youre going to sit here in california and never answer a question simply because you fear an indictment in new york or vice versa, then we wont have a fruitful production occurrence. Well just have somebody wasting the courts time and they dont want that. Its an interesting turn of events. Were still going to wait and see what happens. The democrats now making a federal case out of hacked emails and conspiracy. The democratics now suing the Trump Campaign, wikileaks and several others in hacking of the publication of dnc emails at the heart of this lawsuit. Lets go to jeff zeleny in florida near the president s maralago resort. Specifically, jeff, what is the dnc alleging . Reporter well, wolf, certainly an interesting lawsuit today from the Democratic National committee accusing the Trump Campaign of conspiracy for working with wikileaks in the release of emails and working with the russian government. Now, this is a 66page lawsuit that was filed in manhattan earlier this morning, and this is really essentially reviving much of what we have learned over the last year or so about how these meetings in trump tower with russian officials. But what it is doing, wolf, in an interesting legal strategy is essentially accusing the Trump Campaign of being a racketeering enterprise, going after them through an old rico statute. That was used in organized crime cases. Its an open question if a judge will allow this to proceed. Its an open question if this will ever be litigated or not. But it certainly raises the stakes here. Its not naming the president directly, but it is naming everyone else directly from his son, to his soninlaw, to his former campaign manager. If youll remember all the people who were at that june 26 meeting in trump tower. So hes going through in great detail a lot of things we have learned. Republicans are saying this essentially is a Midterm Election year stunt. Unclear how this will play out in races. But wolf, no question this is something that republicans will have to defend. There is no word yet from the white house, their reaction to this lawsuit. Lets see what happens on this lawsuit. A potentially very significant development. Jeff zeleny, donna florida, thank you very much. Laura coats still wuls. First of all, your reaction to this dnc lawsuit . Ive spoken to dnc officials about this lawsuit and one thing i asked them was, do you have any new evidence. Theyre bringing together the pieces of information, maybe already out there in a way before not presented to a judge. Maybe how trump had advance notice of what wikileaks would tweet out. Egging them on to hack those emails. The time pressure was the statute of limitations on the applicable law here was coming up to its twoyear r wwindow. The courts hope they have time to do depositions. What theyll be bringing up or talking about is not going to be here. The democrats will be asked to provide information as well, and theyll be asked again why didnt they take steps to secure their server when it was brought to their attention that there could be risks. When it was brought to the attention of republicans there could be increases. Mostly it just smells like a political stunt at a time when people are already paying attention to these issues. And laura . Just like the 13count indictment or 13 different nationals, Robert Mueller knowing he wasnt able to bring them back. In many ways this looks like a talking lawsuit that is geared towards the Intel Committee who chose to do nothing. This is also a monetarybased lawsuit, unlike what is happening in a criminal probe where youre having jail time a potential outcome of it. Its talking in a specific wam. Just like michael are claiming that this is not going to make a lot of production. Following new revelations from memos of james comey to President Trump. Comey said the president expressed serious reservations. He tweeted, quote, so general mike flynns wife can be totally destroyed while shady james comey can leak and lie and make lots of money from a third rate book that should never have been written. Is that really the way life in america is supposed to work . I dont think so. Clearly the president had a lot of concerns about Michael Flynn that was recorded in the memos, but he ended up firing him. One, the president is venting about Michael Flynn in the comey memos. We know he does that about anyone who works for him, so we cant take that too seriously. Yes, it led the white house to fire him, and the president s ultimate decision to decide to fire him. And we know that almost instantly when he made that decision, he started to wonder what this would mean for michael co help. This has been one of the hall marks of the president. He feels like the only reason theyre in this position is because they supported him and worked for him during his campaign, and then Michael Flynn into the white house. How do you see it . This tweet from the president basically saying Michael Flynns life can be totally stride while shade i james comey can lie and leak. James comey and the fbi are highly biased for their involvement in this, and an interesting change where he has defended Michael Flynn. There are some certainly in that world who are pushing for the president to pardon Michael Flynn. The president has that power. Well see what happens. Number 1, comey didnt leak in terms of the legal sense, give over classified documents. Number two, remember, hes the one that pled guilty. The court may look at tht and say your life has been somewhat tarnished, but thats mainly of your own making and you admitted that in a court of law. He has the right to pardon him on a federal crime. Those were given to congress, immediately leaked to all of us. Weve gone through them. I want to get your thoughts on the solacious details from the steele dossier that were referred to in those comey memos. Its interesting, because its not the first time weve heard this from comey, the president seemingly not being able to help himself bringing that up. Whether or not the Golden Shower we have. Without prompting from doem, the question assault against the president. Then you have that weve ventured over the course of the last year, but president putin apparently saying russia has the woes works in the world. The kremlin forced to respond to whether the russian government said russia had beautiful hookers. And the kremlin spokesman said, president putin couldnt say such things and did not say it to President Trump, taking into account that they had never communicated before trump. He made that Statement Public earlier. There had been, sir, some conflicting statements from donald trump earlier, before he was inaugerated, whether or not he had ever spoken to putin. Yeah, there was this back and forth. He said he had spoken to him and later said they never had a conversation. I think this is one of those confusing elements where this is a president that frequently changes his story. I dont think we should be surprised by that. And now here we are, talking about Golden Showers and russian hookers. How did we get here . All right. Just reporting the news. Stick around. More news were following straight ahead. Stunning tapes revealed. The president posing as his alter ego. Also he could get on the forbes 400 recent list. Rudy giulianis role on the president s team, to bring the russia investigation to an end. And he is one of the president s favorite targets. He does not have the temperament to do this. Hes choking like a dog. Ted cannot get along with everybody. Hes a nasty person. 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The president will also bring in a husband and wife duo. Jessica has details. What do we know about this couple . Rudy giuliani may be the most prominent name when it comes to that national recognition. The husband and wife joining the president s team, they are big names in legal circles. Marty and jane raskin. They run a firm of defense in the manhattan are miami area. First marty raskin was the chief for the division of the u. S. Attorneys office and he was also in the organized crime and racketeering section for the miami strike force. Then theres his wife jane. She also has a long list of federal prosecutorial defense as well. She worked at the department of justice for the counsel of the criminal division. She also served in the organized Crime Division and racketeering section out of boston. She spent a lot of time in boston in her career as well. Whats interesting is i spoke to several attorneys who knows this couples. One of the attorneys put it this way. When it comes to marty raskin, he is a skilled lawyer, he knows the systems ins and outs, and then he said, he will represent the president well if the president listens to him. Thats key. Will the president listen . The white house hasnt disclosed exactly how Rudy Giuliani or the raskins will be serving on the president s legal team, but those attorneys who know the raskins says the president might be best served if the raskins focus on the suit coming out of the Southern District of new york, the Michael Cohen raid, given their experience with crimes and knowing the ins and outs of attorneys offices. Rudy giuliani says his main role on the Trump Legal Team will be to act as a liaison with special counsel Robert Mueller. He told cnn that muellers russia investigation needs a little push to get to its conclusion. For more on the giuliani role in the russia probe, lets bring back our legal analyst laura coates. What do you think about Rudy Giuliani in addition to these wellknown, highly respected lawyers down in miami . He brings two things that trump desperately needs. One is sort of a Public Relations boost here, right . The president needs to push back not on a legal sense but to get some public opinion. The deeper that mueller digs and the more the cohen raid has sort of prompted a new sort of sense of danger around the white house, you need somebody bigger than life that can push back against that. Giuliani is certainly bigger than life. The other thing is the legal aspect. This is a guy who knows the Southern District of new york. He was u. S. Attorney there and hes got a relationship with mueller. And in both cases the hope is that he can sort of help push this to a conclusion, although i think everybody we talked to suggested that this idea that its going to be wrapped up in a couple weeks, even given giulianis assets, seems really unlikely. Because he does have a relationship with mueller. He speaks very highly of mueller, Rudy Giuliani does. He thinks maybe in two or three weeks, they can at least get a sense if this can be wrapped up and what would be the terms of a president ial interview . If his focus is going to be on trying to navigate how this one on one or this voluntary interview will go with muellers team, then perhaps the knowledge giuliani brings will be useful. If his role is to expedite a federal investigation of this magnitude with the hopes that his relationship as the person who was in office on 9 11 and mueller was with the fbi at that time, then hes in for a real shock. Im sure mueller is able to compartmentalize, and im sure he will have zero influence on the ability to expedite the investigation. Sure, john dow was the point person for a long time. I suspect hell step in for that exclusive point. Amidst all this, michael, the source has told cnn that the Deputy Attorney general, rod rosenstein, when he met with the president told the president that he was not, quote, a target into the investigation of Michael Cohen, the criminal investigation thats under way in new york. What do you make of that . In some ways thats a reflection that the president has long wanted in all of these investigations, some kind of public assurance that he wasnt under investigation, wasnt personally the target. Thats a lot of what the president and jim comey talked about thats described in those memos. I think, though, that if the president takes that and believes that that somehow means that this is all over for him and that there is no legal danger, no political danger, i think hes really deluding himself. Because the fact is he can potentially not be a specific target of that investigation, and there would still be a lot of danger thats unearth ld that mibl cohen had, that related to the president , that related to these other investigations. So theres not really a danger to him if ez not a clearly a target of this investigation. Well see what happens over the next 90 days or so as lawyers on both sides of the Stormy Daniels case are now if that happens. Up next, they have a complicated relationship, to say the least. Donald, donald, relax. Im relaxed. Youre a basket case. Go ahead. Dont get nervous. Now senator cruz is getting roasted over his glowing tribute to the president. Well update on yyou on that whe come back. Oh, sorry im late, sir. When you said you were at the doctor, but your shirt says you were at a steakhouse. Thats when you know its halfwashed. Add downy odor protect with 24hour odor protection. Downy and its done. Iit was the last song of theh my brnight. 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An aboutface for the texas senator ted cruz now lavishing enormous praise on President Trump. Senator cruz wrote this for Time Magazine, and im quoting now. President trump is a flashbang grenade thrown into washington by the forgotten men and women of america. But remember the 2016 president ial campaign when trump attacked cruz with a lions head nickname and talked about the looks of cruzs wife while cruz fired back with these. I believe you know politics much better than i do because for 40 years youve been offended politicians for years. He insulted necessary, me, h my wife. It is disgusting. And this. Donald trump will not be the nominee. Will you support him . Donald trump will not be the nominee. John, what about this aboutface . How do you sense it . Its extraordinary. The man President Trump called lyin ted is now effusive in his heartfelt comments for the president. You have to wonder if its just f fodder for the texas race this fall. Listen to how the president talked about ted cruz. Lyin ted does not have the temperament for this. He says, im a natural born citizen. The point is, youre not. Taking shots like that, did you ever think you would see these kinds of compliments coming from senator cruz for President Trump in this new issue of Time Magazine . You know, i dont think i hold ted cruz to a High Standard of constancy. But even still, this is a man who the president of the United States insin waited his father was somehow responsible for the assassination of john kennedy. There is bad blood here and it simply plays into the base of politics. Theres something sad about it, frankly. You know cruz is up for reelection. Do you think the very nice words from senator cruz in Time Magazine could lead to a campaign visit or two or more from the president in texas in the coming months . Thats clearly going to be ted cruzs hope, and hes hoping he can build bridges with the base that he may have burned during that tough campaign. The quinnipiac poll gained three points. It shouldnt be that close, especially in texas. Ted cruz probably feels he needs all the help he can get. I like seeing people mend fences in politics, but he may have gone too far a step ahead. Thank you for that analysis. Up next, a reporter claims the president posed as his own spokesman all to climb his way up the forbes wealth list. Youre going to hear the audio for yourself right after the break. Also, russia calling the shots. The kremlin claims it warned the u. S. On what lines could not be crossed on last weeks strikes on syria. We have new details just ahead. Lilly. She pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. But once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. I use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. You are free to go. 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It has always been our intention to make sure that this case proceeded expeditiously and that as much information as possible would be known and made known to the American People about what happened here, all of the facts relating to the negotiation around this agreement, the 130,000 there are payment and the coverup that has resulted. As im sure each of you observed, we have one of the finest federal judges in the country assigned to this case relating to the honorable james otero. Incredibly diligent, very, very smart as todays hearing indicated, and very, very focused on what matters on all constitutional issues in this case. There is no question that he is going to ensure that mr. Cohens fifth amendment rights are adequately protected at the same time that the rights of the American People and the American Public to know the truth are equally protected. Ill take questions. Can i ask you, you asked for more details about what was taken in the raid and electronics in particular. Would you share those details here . I was repeating what was stated in new york by mr. Tom mcvey, the very able, competent and exceptional u. S. Attorney who is handling the criminal matter in new york. He stated in open court on monday that when the fbi raided the office hotel room and residence of mr. Cohen that they imaged the electronic devices, foep phones, computers and the like, they left those behind and only took the images with them with approximately 10 bankers boxes full of documents. I was only regurgitating what was said on monday. I dont have any reason to doubt that. Were going to continue to monitor Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for Stormy Daniels. Were also awaiting a ruling by this judge out there to see if there is going to be a stay in the case, what goes forward. Well update you when we get more informationme. In the meantime, there is other news were following. Donald trump, president of the United States, speaking in the third person. He still does it fairly often, but its a style he uses in speeches and maybe something he perfected decades ago when he reportedly acted as his own personal spokesman under the name of john barron. Now a forbes reporter is releasing copies of taped conversations he had with john barron back in 1992. Okay. Whats your first name, by the way . John. John. John barron. Let me tell you what the deal is just so you understand. Okay. Mr. Trump first of all, most of the assets have been consolidated to mr. Trump, you know, because you have down fred trump. And id like to talk to you off the record, if i can. Okay, sure. But i think you can really use donald trump now and you can just consolidate it. I think last year somebody showed me the article, and i think he had 200 and 200, and the others been pretty well consolidated now for the most part, as i also think somebody had mentioned that you had asked about that or somebody had. And its been pretty well consolidated, okay . It was a tremendous deal from any standpoint, i guess, but what i think you might want to do is at some point maybe after that before you right your little article, maybe you want to call me again and sit down because id like to discuss a couple things. I look at the forbes from my standpoint as being important. And i dont think that in numerous cases, and i can only judge by the new york realtors that you mentioned, i dont tink you have your facts 100 correct. And i think thats probably somewhat important. So if you have a chance, if you so deem or if you deem it necessary or important enough, ill be available. All right, that was, quote, john barron. Lets discuss this and more. Joining us from new york, john cassidy, contributor for the new yorker magazine. Hes covered john barron in the past. What do you think of that tape from 1992 . He was john barron in a divorce case, in other cases. Ive never had that experience myself, but i think a lot of new york reporters wouldnt be surprised to see this. Back in the 80s, everybody who covered trump knew he was determined to get on the forbes 400 list. He was always determined to show that he was one of the really rich people in america, richer than these rivals in the new York Real Estate game. And the article was a very good article, i should say. It just shows its all true and that trump actually told lies about his assets, including one of the things he said was that his father had passed over all the family assets to him and consolidated them subsequently and merged in his fathers will, in fred trumps will, and passed them over to his kids. I think it confirms what we previously knew, that when it comes to trumps estimation of his own worth, you need to take a lot of what he says with a pinch of salt. Yeah, hes always been very, very sensitive on that forbes list, especially including, in my interviews ive done with him over the years, that pr push over his wealth. Thats been a focal point, as you well know, and a lot of Business Reporters in new york know as well. It came up several times during the campaign, too, about his net worth. Heres part of his current the current forbes billionaires list. Take a look at this. This probably deeply irritates the president. Jeff bazos from amazon and the owner of the washington post. Hes at the top of the list. Hes worth 112 billion. Hes number 1. The current billionaires list lists donald trump as number 106. He has 3. 1 billion worth. U you have a smile . He even complained when they highlighted him as 4 billion and said he should be a lot higher. Whatever worth you put on trump, he says im worth double that. Its hard to figure out what he is exactly worth because the Trump Organization is a private company. It doesnt have any stock listings so you cant look at the stock prices. Also its got a lot of hidden debts. We dont know how much. Forbes estimated about a billion dollars. During the campaign he said he was worth 10 billion. Various magazines have put it at 2. 5, 3. 5. I did a little back of the envelope myself for a piece he wrote, and i got it figured at 2. 5 billion. Thats a lot of money. Hes got a lot of assets, nobody denies that, but he doesnt appear to be as rich as he says he is. John cassidy, thank you so much for joining us. Sdp thank youment. Coming up, red lines drawn. Were getting new details on americas strike last week on syria and how russia warned the United States where it was acceptable to bomb. Which most pills dont. N, and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. With tmobile, get the Fastest Network ever, now on the fasters samsung ever. Because fast should be fast. Now at tmobile, buy one Samsung Galaxy s9 and get one free. 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Translator we had contacts on the military leadership level afterwards at the level of generals between our representatives and the commanders of the u. S. Led coalition. They were informed about where our red lines are, including geographical redlines on the ground. In any case, the results show that they have not crossed these red lines. Our pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr is joining us. What has the pentagonbe been saying . What the pentagon has been saying is they did tell the russians, in other words, the u. S. Told moscow to stay out of certain areas or be aware that the u. S. Would be in areas that could include damascus, that could include homz. It was a bloc in the area where the u. S. Might be operating, not specific locations, not specific time frames. This is how deconfliction works, you tell the other guy i may be operating in this broad area at this time. Moscow was very well aware of what the real message was there. There was no escalation back from the russians, no action by the russians that pentagon has reported. I want you to listen one more time to what general joe dunford, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff about the russians and all of this. We specifically identified these targets to mitigate the risk of Russian Forces being involved and we used our normal deconfliction channels. Those were active this week to work through the airspace issues and so forth. We did not do any coordination with the russians on the strikes, nor did we prenotify them. And just to tie it all up for the week, a short time ago, here at the pentagon defense secretary james mattis said that Bashar Alassad would be ill advised to ignore the warning that the u. S. , the french and the british sent him in those air strikes just one week ago. Wolf . Thanks very much. Im joined by cnn security analyst. Why is this socalled deconfliction so important, samantha . Because it actually helps our mission in syria. When we deconflict with russia, we have more room to pursue our mission to counter isis and occasionally punish and deter chemical weapons use. The goal is to avoid unintended runins where russia has personnel, as we do, on the ground and we want to make sure our forces dont come into unintended contact. We saw a crisis happen a few weeks ago when you was forces did kill russian mercenaries on the ground in syria. Communication here is key. There are different ways that the United States and russia can communicate about operations in syria. One is the socalled hot line thats getting a lot of press. This hot line is to deconflict specific operations. As the pentagon briefed last week, it is likely impossible that they would be in touch minutes or hours before specific operation to deconflict the air or the ground. But. We also have regular contact. So general dunford may be in touch with his russian counterpart every week or every day to talk about the Strategic Power in syria. Where do you see all this heading . I am worried that russian lines are going to multiply. Theyve established these geographic and personal red lines. They could start spreading assets and people throughout syria and say you cant strike here because we have people there and if you do, well escalate. Theyre trying to expand their role in the political space and play mediator in chief and we know theyre carrying syrias water diplomatically. So they could establish more red lines, threaten to escalate with them if we dont respect them and it could limit u. S. Policy objectives. This is a tense situation. There is more breaking news. A Michael Cohen indictment may be coming soon. Youre going to hear why. Thats ahead. When you said you were at the doctor, but your shirt says you were at a steakhouse. Thats when you know its halfwashed. Add downy odor protect with 24hour odor protection. Downy and its done. Ancestrydna has 5x more detail. And its now on sale for just 59. 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