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When they look at the documents, i think people are going to see a lot of bad things happen. I hope its not so, because if it is, theres never been anything like it in the history of our country. I hope i mean, if you look at clapper, he sort of admitted they had spies in the campaign yesterday, ined a very temperatu inadvertently. Heres what James Clapper actually said. So i ask you, was the fbi spying on Trumps Campaign . Well, no, they were not. They were spying on a term i dont particularly like but on what the russians were doing. Trying to understand were the russians trying to gain access and leverage and influence. So why doesnt he like that . He should be happy. He should be. Lets go to our senior White House Correspondent jeff zeleny. The president went off james comey. He went after john brennan, the former cia director. Tell us what else he said. Reporter wolf, the president wanted to flesh out a little bit of what hes been saying for several days, essentially where he has escalated what is basically a rumor into now a fullblown conspiracy that hes leading. But he was asked directly is he undercutting the investigation . Are you trying to discredit everything thats going on here . And the president brought up james comey on his own. Take a listen. This was a terrible situation. What were doing is were cleaning everything up. Its so important, what im doing is a service to this country, and i did a Great Service to this country by firing james comey. And excuse me, a lot of people have said it, and you go into the fbi and a lot of those great people working in the fbi, they will tell you, i did a Great Service to our country by firing james comey. Reporter well see how history judges that. A lot of his own supporters and advisers believe thats one of the worst things the president did, because of course, it set off the special counsels probe in the first place a year ago this month. But the president , of course, doing what he often does in these situations, doubling down, acknowledging no mistakes here, but trying to make the case and obscure this investigation and muddy the waters by raising the prospect of spygate. One question the president did not answer, wolf, as i and other reporters tried asking him direct directly, that is the future of Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney general. Hell be with the president this afternoon on long island as hes talking about ms13 and other gangs. But what the future of Rod Rosenstein is, of course, he oversees the entire mueller investigation. The president asked probably a half dozen times, did not answer that question. So wolf, what we saw is the president trying to brand this even more as spygate. He said even is calling it that. Hes about the only person calling it that, with the exception of a few other friendly media hosts who are essential advisers to this white house. Wolf . Very quickly, that meeting scheduled tomorrow at the white house briefing, republicans only on all of this, i know democrats want to participate as well and some other republicans would like to come. Whats the status of this highly classified briefing thats been prepared for tomorrow . Reporter the status of the briefing is it is going on. White house officials themselves will not be at this white house. White house chief of staff john kelly is setting it up. Some democrats were saying he should not be at the meeting. Were told hes not going to be. But democrats are not going to be there either. But the president was say thing is going to get to the bottom of all of this. He was also asked if the Obama Administration was responsible for this, as hes suggested. He said, i dont have any proof of that. Of course, that hasnt stopped him from saying so on twitter. Wolf . Well monitor all of this. Jeff zeleny, thank you very much. Before the president took aim at james comey, the fired fbi director, took a swipe at the president. He says President Trumps promotion of unproven Conspiracy Theorys is putting the agency and the country at risk. Comey tweeted this. Facts matter. The fbis use of confidential human sources is tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country. Attacks on the fbi and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. How will republicans explain this to their grandchildren . Thats the quote from james c b com comey. Lets bring in seth waxman, who is joining us, julie hershfeld, and gloeria borger. What is your reaction to comeys tweet . Well, we know theyre not friends. The president fired him. And comey now is firing back and say thing is outrageous, ridiculous. Its an assault on the way the executive and the Judicial Branch should interact with each other. And, you know, donald trump is very very good at weaving Conspiracy Theorys. Those of us that covered the campaign know he did it very well. Starting with barack obama, the birther theory . Remember that ted cruzs father was involved in the kennedy assassination, which came from a tabloid report. So what the president is doing here now is very transparent. I mean, hes weaving a Conspiracy Theory so that you can investigate the investigators. So that if he decides not to testify or a report comes out and says, you know, this is really terrible, he can say, well, you know what . I didnt testify because these people are not credible, and if a report comes out, which hurts him, he can say, you know what . These people are out to get me, theyre part of the deep state. Thats a good point. Am s im quoting here, the president has taken a kernel of truth and contorted it into an allout Conspiracy Theory of entrenched bureaucrats out to get him. First of all, what is that kernel of truth that hes building this entire Conspiracy Theory on . There was an fbi informant, we now know, who was talking to associates of the Trump Campaign and the reason why is because the fbi, in the course of a counterintelligence investigation, found that these Campaign Aides had some contacts with the russians. And what the informant had been sent in to do, as far as we understand it right now, is to snuff out what that was about and what was going on with the russians were up to. Hes taken that now and sort of conflated it with what he had been saying was a politically motivated effort to tarnish him and republicans, particularly him. And the important point is, this is the sort of thing he did when you were in the campaign. When youre the president , it has impact, and thats what comeys tweet was referring to, when you say this about the fbi and an ongoing federal investigation, it has consequences, and it has implications. The president doesnt seem as focused on that, as he does on protecting himself and his own reputation. You heard him say this was about doing a service to the country. This is a selfinterested action that hes taken in consultation with his private attorney to try to undercut the investigation thats going on. The top democrat on the intelligence House Intelligence Committee he said what the president is doing, the president s spy theory, in adam schiffs words, is making a major threat to the rule of law in the United States. Sure. All of these counternarratives are designed to undermine the integrity of our Law Enforcement institutions. But this goes to the broader strategy that mr. President trump and his team may be employing. They have convinced themselves, maybe rightly so, that the sitting president will never be indicted, so theyre looking to impeachment proceedings. If articles of impeachments are issued, there will be a trial in the senate. That means the president needs 34 republican senators to stand by him and vote in his favor, no matter what the evidence is. We see him polling at 30 to 40 right now. Those numbers translate into those 34 republicans, thats the end game for him. And if he wins that, i dont know that he cares about the impact on the institution of the presidency or how this affects Law Enforcement longterm. He wants to win. If the president wants to know what happened, hes the president of the United States. He can call in the head of the cia, the head of the fbi, the department of justice, top officials, he can bring them all in and say, tell me exactly what happened. I want to know. Theres nothing stopping him, and by the way, we dont know what hes done actually. There is nothing stopping him from doing exactly what you say, and getting to the bottom of it. But what is stopping him is hes already established a narrative that he doesnt want to get rid of, because its working for him. Its working for him among republicans. Bob mueller has been discredited now among his republican base. We see that in the polling. Youre absolutely right. These are the republicans hes going to need in case of impeachment. So while his lawyers are going along, doing their work, Rudy Giuliani is his kind of partner this crime here, and throwing out all these things about spies and informants and misinterpreting what James Clapper said on the view, purposefully, purposefully to kind of rally the base. And i wouldnt be surprised if he tried to use it in the campaign. Its interesting, julie, because the president keeps talking about this deep state, spygate. Mike pompeo, the new secretary of state, the former cia director, he was a member of congress for a while, he was on the Intelligence Committee, he was asked about all these deep state rumors. Listen to this. Do you believe theres a criminal deep state at the state department . I havent seen the comments of the president. I dont believe theres a deep state at the state department. Thats your experience when you interacted with colleagues at the fbi and department of justice, as well . Uh, yes. There are always exceptions to every rule. I they have led an organization that didnt have bad actors. But in general, youre confident that the members of the various agencies are honoring their oaths to the United States constitution . Yeah, in general, yes, sir. How is the president going to react to what mike pompeo just said . Well, i think pompeo worded it very carefully, and probably by design, because the president does not like to be contradicted by his advisers in public or private. We heard the Homeland Security secretary doing a little tap dancing yesterday about another issue related to this, about the evidence that the Intelligence Community, the assessment, the Intelligence Community arrived that, that russia did help trump in the elections. She said im not aware of that, and had a parsed answer, because nobody wants to say in public that they agree with these theorys, because they if they have the information that clearly thats not the case. But they dont want to differ too much with the president because he gets angry about that. You can see that theres a lot of careful work being done to not seem to be undercutting the president. In is what he tweeted earlier today, the president of the United States about a deep state. Look how things turned around on the criminal deep state. They go after phony collusion with russia, and get caught in a major spy scandal, the likes of which this country may have never seen before. What goes around comes around. Thats consistent with the narrative weve been hearing. The gloves will come off more in the weeks and months to come. The closer this comes to a report by bob mueller, youll hear the rhetoric become more innam toii inflammato inflammatory. Thats why Rudy Giuliani was brought in, speaking to those 34 republican senators theyll need to stand by the president. The latest on whether the president will answer questions from you and our team have been doing excellent reporting on this. What my colleagues and i have learned is that the president s legal team is really trying to narrow the scope of any potential interview with the president to russia, and what happened prepresidency with russia. And what theyre saying is, prepresidency is fine. There are no issues there. Theres no constitutional issues there. Theres no privilege issues there. But they are saying to mueller, and our sources are telling us that unlikely mueller will accept this, but if you want to deal with the issue of obstruction, we would hike likeo it in written answers. So they have proposed this. Again, nobody expects mueller to accept this. But its part of a narrative also that says, were trying. Were not just going to dismiss testifying, and trump can then go out and say, if it all falls apart or this goes to the supreme court, they can say look, we were dealing in good faith, and we made these proposals. And bob mueller didnt think it was good enough. And we believe we have the constitution on our side here in fighting this over president ial testimony. So, again, its part of making their case. Im not holding my prabreath waiting for that to happen. Thank you very much. Why isnt the white house inviting democrats to this classified meeting scheduled for tomorrow . Ill ask a key member of the House Intelligence Committee, there you see him. 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White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders smexplained why n democrats were invited. To my knowledge, democrats have not requested that information. So i would refer you why they would consider themselves randomly invited they never asked to. Joining us now is mike quigley, a democrat, member of the Intelligence Committee. She was right as of yesterday, no democrats asked to participate in the meeting. Today, there was a Statement Released from Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi, asking for a formal briefing of whats called the gang of eight, four Top Republicans in the house, and four Top Democrats in the senate to be briefed, instead of having this separate meeting with only republicans tomorrow at the white house. Whats your reaction . Yeah, this is a part of a pattern. Ever since the investigation began, my republican colleagues in the House Intel Committee have had rogue, unilateral investigations. They have never consulted with us. They have met with others. Never talked to us at all. This is a real threat to the process. First of all, the Justice Department should not release information that they believe hurts their ability to protect our country, our National Security, revealing sources and methods. Under any pressure from the white house or from congress. But if theyre going to do this, there is a mechanism that we describe here, a revealing this to the gang of eight, not Just One Party or a couple of members. Have you heard anything about that latest request from schumer and pelosi, have they received any reply yet from the administration . To my understanding, no. Were hearing that theyre briefing on a few minor matters, republicans, here, there, everywhere. It makes absolutely no sense. To a larger extent, i thought that the russian attack on our democratic process was the most important thing that happened in our lifetime, the greatest threat to our democracy. I now believe the greatest threat to our rule of law, how our Intel Community works to protect us is the president s reaction to that attack. Just to be precise on this, congressman, you think the president and how hes behaving right now represents a bigger threat to american democracy than what the russians were doing and apparently are still doing here in the United States, interfering in the election process . The russians came at us, director comey said theyll be back. We just appropriated some money to protect our election infrastructure. We now know, because facebook releasing some of these ads, we now know what were confronted with. Whats happening here is far more insidious. Its an attack on how the Intelligence Community collects its information. If they cant assure our sources and our methods will be secured, we will be less safe as a country. If the independence of the Justice Department is threatened for all time, if this establishes a pattern of behavior where the Justice Department doesnt have that independence, the rule of law is greatly threatened. At this point in time, i see that as a greater threat. The president today said he just wants transparency, his word, transparency in this matter, and he also insisted thats what the democrats want, as well. Do you believe this is all about transparency . I think its about helping the president politically and legally. I think mr. Giuliani said this is exculpatory information, it should be passed on to the trump legal team. He has to be kidding. The Justice Department cant be forced to reveal information in an Ongoing Investigation to the trump legal team. If he thinks this is what, exculpatory information . That happens after one has been indicted. Im not sure hes anticipated that or not. But its way out of bounds here and frankly very dangerous. If the president decides to provide this information to whats called the gang of eight, democrats and republicans, would thats your concerns . I think its a better way to do it, but it doesnt get past the point that it shouldnt be allowed to happen. The Justice Department feel thing kind of pressure from the house, feeling this kind of pressure from the white house . This will have a profound impact on how they operate for generations to come. Congressman quigley, thank you for joining us. Any time. Thank you. Were getting some more breaking news. A judge ruling whether President Trump can legally block twitter users from following him. Its a big First Amendment case. Stand by. We have new details. The sun comes up. The sun goes down. You did a million things for your family today. But speaking to pnc to help handle all your investments was a very important million and one. Pnc. Make today the day. Vo theyre getting by starting with miraclegro potting mix and plant food. 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He would block people that maybe he disagreed with, and some of these people who were blocked, sued. And a judge has agreed with them and said that the president cannot block them because twitter is what she said a public forum. Let me read from the decision. S she said this violates the First Amendment. As the defendants tried to argue that President Trump had his own First Amendment issues here and he should be allowed to block these people. But the judge said because its a public forum, they cannot do that. She says that no government official, including the president , is above the law. We reached out to the white house, we have not heard back whether he will unblock all of these people on twitter. The First Amendment group is celebrating this judgment. This is a big deal for the internet and how the internet is treated when it comes to the First Amendment law, declaring that twitter and other places are public forums. Everybody else who is on twitter can block anybody they want. But the president of the United States in a different category according to this federal judge. Thats right, wolf. Thank you very much for that. Right now, there are other developments unfolding, including some deep concerns that a possible sonic attack targeted a u. S. Government employee stationed in china. Lets go there. Our International Correspondent matt rivers is joining us from beijing. The state department issued a health alert to all u. S. Citizens in china. Tell the viewers what it said. Reporter yeah, this email alert came out to lots of different u. S. Citizens in china. It warned citizens about experiencing symptoms that one of their Government Employees in Southern China says that person experienced. This employee apparently reported abnormal sensations of sound and pressure from late 2017 through april 2018. Wenthe United States, wolf, and diagnosed with a mild traumatic brain injury. That according to secretary of state mike pompeo who just talked to a congressional panel, is very similar to what we saw happen last year in cuba. There were about two dozen diplomats and families that experienced similar symptoms and they did not the state Department Still to this point does not know exactly what happened there. They say theyre going to investigate. The chinese are helping them apparently. But its a serious concern at the state department, and something they dont have an answer to at this point. Very quickly, matt. There seems to be a deterioration in u. S. China relations. All of a sudden the u. S. Has disinvited china to allow them to participate in a military exercise with the u. S. In the south china sea. Tell our viewers what happened. Reporter yeah, this is an exercise called rim pac. Its led by the u. S. They invited china in 2014, 2016, but thanks to chinas militarization, a u. S. Official tells cnn they deployed missiles on islands they built up, they landed a bomber on one of the airstrips. That made the u. S. Very unhappy. So according to a u. S. Official, james mattis in conjunction with the white house, decided china cannot come to those exercises this year. Wolf . It comes at a time when the president keeps referring to china, maybe blaming china if theres not going to be a meeting between the president and kim jongun, he said something happened as far as the north koreans are concerned, following the second kim meeting with president xi of china. Matt rivers, thank you. Coming up, look at this, the volcano threat in hawaii. Lava bombs and toxic gas, as officials worry about a nearby power plant. Were going live to the big island. S. Late checkout. Downalternative pillows. And of course, price. Tripadvisor helps you book a. Hotel without breaking a sweat. Because we now instantly. Search over 200 booking sites. To find you the lowest price. 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Look at this, the tweet from the president. Look how things have turned around on the criminal deep state. They go after phony collusion with russia, a madeup scam, and end up getting caught in a major spy scandal, the likes of which this country may never have seen before. What goes around comes around. That ends the quote from the president. Joining us from capitol hill, congressman chris stewart, a republican, key member of the House Intelligence Committee. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me get your reaction to what the president just tweeted, saying that there is now a criminal deep state that exists in the u. S. Federal government, that is out to get him. Do you believe that . I dont know that we know the answer to that yet, wolf. Look, theres some things were concerned about. Ive never used the word criminal with the exception sometimes we havent had honest testimony before our committee, or at least some of these senior people have told the committee one thing and said publicly something very different. So i dont know if i would use the word criminal, but i guess well see, like with the mueller investigation, where it will end up. Mike pompeo, former cia director and secretary of state, a colleague of yours in the house of representatives, he didnt think there was a deep state at the state department or at the Justice Department or the cia i should say, and he used to run the cia. Yet the president keeps talking not just about a deep state, but a criminal deep state. Sure, there are disgruntled employees, there are employees that go wrong. But to suggest that theres a criminal state, that takes it a whole further step. Do you agree . Well, you know, a couple things here. One is deep state, which no one has never heard about, at least i never did until the last year. Im not sure theres a solid definition. Mike pompeo is a good friend, theres no one i respect more. But i think he and i do agree that there are some individuals that have demonstrated over the last year, and they work in the u. S. Government, that they were opposed to this president and using in some cases their official positions to oppose him and his policies. And if thats the definition of a deep state, i would agree thats the case. Now once again, coming to your question about criminal, i dont know that we know the answer to that. I dont know that we know whether any of this activity is criminal. But the department of justice, ig, and others, mr. Rosenstein have said that they will look into it. I encourage them to, and once again, well see what they come up with. Theres an Inspector General report to see if any of the actions oh of this confidential source, you know, led to any improper activities on the part of the u. S. Government. But this is among the most sensitive issues, as you know, a member of the Intelligence Committee, sources and methods. Thats supposed to be a briefing tomorrow over at the white house for two of our republican colleagues, trey gowdy and devin nunes. But the democrats want in now, and they say if this is so sensitive, theres a formula to do it, the gang of eight, four Top Republicans, four Top Democrats. They get the same briefing. Is that a good idea or should republicans only be briefed . No, no. I dont know that anyone has said this should only be available to Republican Leadership. How can we say we want transparency and then say we only want republicans to see the information . I dont know of anyone that suggested that. Absolutely they should be invited. The thing is, they havent requested to see this information. Theres been other information at the Justice Department that weve gone down and looked at that was available to them, but many of them, and to my knowledge none of them wanted to go down and look at. But if they want to come see this, of course they should be there is a letter just released sorry for interrupting from nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer saying they want the full gang of eight to be briefed, not just these two republicans scheduled to meet with top officials tomorrow at the white house. But you say it would be better to have the gang of eight get this Briefing Rather than two republicans, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee and the chairman of the Oversight Committee . Absolutely. And if theres information as trous troubling as we think it might be, mr. Schumer and ms. Pelosi should be apart of that. One other thing, particularly highlighted in the last week, that was on a wednesday we were told by the department of justice and fbi, this is so sensitive, we cant show it to you. This will endanger human lives and National Security. Two important thoughts on that. Number one, we are the select committee on intelligence. We are designed and created just for this exact purpose. Of course we can protect that. And the second thing is, they told us that they couldnt show it, it was too sensitive on a wednesday. And yet before we had seen the information, because we have not seen it yet, and yet that information was leaked out on thursday and friday. It must have come from someone in the department of justice, and its very insincere to claim its too sensitive to Show Congress or congressional leaders, but its not too sensitive to leak . I dont know how you reconcile those two things. Its always very sensitive when we talk about confidential u. S. Sources, whether they work for the cia or the fbi. Heres what the former fbi director james comey tweeted today. Facts matter. The fbis use of confidential human sources, the actual term, is tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country. Attacks on the fbi and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. How will republicans explain this to their grand children . Youre a republican. Explain this to your grandchildren. Mr. Comey has come across has incredibly partisan and protective of his own actions at the fbi. Were not attacking the fbi. I love these agents, these brave men and women and many reached out to me and said thank you for what were doing. Were only trying to hold certain members of leadership of the fbi and the department of justice accountable. Look, wolf, you cant give the department of justice unfettered power and the sffbi. You cant say go ahead and surveil people. You ha to have all that authority but dont ever tell us what youre doing . I think thats a nutty proposition that some people are saying well give people that kind of power but we wont hold them accountable, even to select members of congress. Thats why were here is to provide that oversight. If you take us out of this picture and give them that authority, how long before were living in what is essentially a russian state. And American People dont want that. Very quickly, because were out of time, but mike quigley, democrat, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, he was on this program just little while ago, he said, and he was very blunt, he thinks what the president is doing now, talking about a criminal deep state, represents potentially a greater threat to the u. S. Democracy than what the russians did and are still doing. Your reaction . Once again, why is holding the department of justice and fbi Senior Leadership accountable, why is that counter to democracy . It makes no sense why transparency and asking them to tell us what they did and why they did it, why that is antidemocratic. Its exactly the opposite of what were trying to do. We want transparency just like you do. And you make a good point. If its just about transparency, let the Republican Leadership know, let the democratic leadership know. Theres a formula for sharing the most Sensitive National security secrets, and thats called the gang of eight. Congressman, thanks for joining us. Thank you, sir. More breaking news just coming into cnn. A Major Development in the Robert Mueller investigation involving the former Trump Campaign adviser who pleaded guilty and who officials dismissed as a coffee boy. Stand by. Its just a burst pipe, i could fix it. laugh no. With claim rateguard your rates wont go up just beacuase of a claim. I totally couldve. wife nope switching to allstate is worth it. Sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. 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Keep in mind hes been cooperating for some time with the special counsel. But the fact that now these prosecutors are telling the court that we are now ready for him to be sentenced indicates that his cooperation is pretty much complete. It doesnt mean theyre completely done with him but it seems to indicate that the information he has been providing has now probably no longer needed and he is essentially done with his cooperation. Lets bring in dana bash. This is a significant development, if in fact theyre ready to sentence him. We have no idea what sentence hell get. Not at all. As shimon was saying, in the past muellers team came to court saying they wanted to delay, which was an indication they were still working papadopoulos for information. Now that is over. The rules are once theyre sentenced, thats not going to happen anymore. That is not the case yet with rick gates, for example, who worked for Paul Manafort and worked on the Trump Campaign, the transition and so on and so forth. So were still waiting for that. But i think even bigger picture, with every big moment like this, it is a reminder that Robert Mueller is closer, certainly not there yet, but closer. And a reminder that we still have many other big things out there. The biggest of which is whether the president himself is going to sit down for an interview voluntarily, whether they can come to an agreement, the president s lawyers and muellers team or whether its going to end up as a court fight. And were still waiting for michael flynn, the president s National Security adviser, who was only National Security advisor for about a month but he had been during the transition and during the campaign he was very close to the president. Hes pleaded guilty already as well. He as well is awaiting sentencing. That is not ready yet. We have no indication when that will be ready. Hes been cooperating. He has been cooperating. Rick gates cooperating if. Rick gates has been cooperating. This is the first person, George Papadopoulos, thats been cooperating that is ready to be sentenced. It certainly signals that bob mueller is moving quickly, is getting ready to make some decisions. Whatever information George Papadopoulos has been providing, this would seem to indicate that theyre ready to part ways with him so to speak. That is is the special counsel. It doesnt mean his cooperation is over forever, but well see what happens in the end. So theyre giving the court about 30 days. Theyre saying in about 30 days we probably will be reed to go ahead and sentence him . Do you have any idea the sentence he pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, which is a felony. He could face jail time. Given hes been cooperating, usually the judge will take that into consideration. You may see prosecutors write a letter on his behalf, detail how hes been cooperating, the level of information hes been providing. Once hes sentenced, we can actually learn so much about what hes been doing these last several months in his cooperation with the letter they would ultimately file, that is the prosecutors would. As you mentioned, this is the first character in this who we heard about from the investigation, from the mueller team as somebody who flipped basically. Hes somebody who the president called no more than a coffee boy. He said he couldnt recognize him. That might be true, but at the end of the day he was at the table with Foreign Policy advisers, he was on e maim chm chains, he did have access to he people who were very much involved in the campaign. Were going to continue to follow all of this. Well have much more on the breaking news. The president also escalating a Conspiracy Theory involving claims of an fbi spy inside his campaign. Well be right back. 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