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CSPAN LIVE July 5, 2024
Your chance to weigh in on any political or Public Policy topic. We are ready for your calls right now. Republicans, 202 7488001, democrats 202 7488000 and independents 202 7488002. Our first caller is on the republican line, joe in new jersey, good morning. Caller good morning, how are you . I have two points to make if i can. The first one was about what your guest said that joe biden, once he found out that he had classified documents, he brought them back. That was about 50 years ago and he has no right to have them. He wasnt even president. He was a senator and a Vice President and he had that from the time he was a senator. Thats illegal. He took them illegally. President trump had every right to take the documents home and most of them were declassified. Im curious to see what she thinks about that. Host well our guest is no longer here. We are in open forum but that was joe calling in with his thoughts on that topic. Willie in slidell, louisiana, democratic line, you are on. Caller i am a 20 year military veteran. I did two tours of vietnam. The representative here is talking antigovernment stuff. I know why all these right wingers are notes of her than the north vietnamese. It is ridiculous, thank you. Host we appreciate your service. James is our next caller in battle creek, michigan, independent line. Caller hello, i want to talk about mccain. He talked about having a democrat and republican. Id like to see cheney and hillary may be run maybe we could get something straightened out. You need a woman in there anyway, something different. Host all right, appreciate your call this morning. Lets go to teresa now. She is calling from dandridge, tennessee on the republican line. Caller good morning, nice to speak with you. The way i see it, it was the National Archives who dropped the ball may have committed the crime in my opinion. There is a service the National Archives offers to every president leaving office. Obama had 33 million documents at the National Archives accounted for. 18 wheelers moved it with a Police Escort to where they are being held to this day and was paid for by taxpayers. Reagan, bush, everyone of them had this service except for trump. It was not offered to him and i want to know why he was not given the same benefit that all the other x president s were given. Thank you. Host all right, vincent calling on the democratic line from brooklyn, new york. Caller good morning. Regardless of your political persuasion, is a lifelong democrat, i want to bring out some facts. The Democratic Party has been disseminating this information to its own electoral. About president obama and him cutting the deficit . Yes, president obama did reduce the federal budget deficit during his tenure in office. When he took office in 2009, the deficit was at its highest point since world war ii. By the end of his presidency in 2017, the deficit had fallen by more than two thirds. This was achieved through a combination spending cuts, tax increases as well as Economic Growth and job creation. However, the deficit did increase in the latter part of his presidency due to factors such as increased military spending and the impact of the 2017 tax cuts. Obama bombed more accurate african countries in any president in American History and a lot of that money went to the military. The Democratic Party painting a picture about him cutting the deficit are not telling the whole truth. As a lifelong democrat, i am considering, 30 of the black National Vote should abandon the Democratic Party and boat fork and vote for trump. Host lets go to michigan now, joyce on the independent line. Caller i keep hearing no one is above the law and i think of myself as a lawabiding citizen. Also the Supreme Court should not be above the law either. Its not a real Fair Assessment sometimes. We are all human beings and that includes democrats, republicans and everybody. We are all human beings first. People should remember that. No president or no one has put down and hated so many people as trump has in front of everybody. Anyone who thinks to look at him wrong. He has just laughed at them and the republicans are all for this. What about the law . Its ridiculous. Are there lawabiding people around more than the others . I guess we will find out maybe. Host on the republican line now, eileen is calling from drexel hill, pennsylvania. Caller hi, thanks for taking my call. I have to say the reporter earlier said the difference between Donald Trumps document case and joe bidens was the willfulness of it. I think its very comparable to hillarys case, very willful destruction, emails and devices. I also think joe biden was very willful when he took as a senator, documents from a secured sift facility which he is not allowed to do and they ended up in his garage floor. The other thing i would like to say as far as Clarence Thomas is i dont know why black people dont unite and say listen, we get to think differently. The relentless attacks on him and he is such a great example of what you can do in this country. Thank you. Host lets hear now from franklin in washington, d. C. On the independent line. Caller thanks for taking my call. This is to circumvent the deluge of other calls you will get on trump in these documents. This is political and the democrats can keep them from running id like to point out that the best thing that could possibly happen for democrats is for trump to get nominated and run. He cannot win a general election. He has already lost everything is run for since 2016. He lost the house, he lost the senate and he lost a different special elections. I heard somebody call in talk about the winning hes done. He hasnt won anything. The idea that he somehow going to be able to get 20 or 30 of his hardcore base. Large majority of these people who call, of course, they represent the 20 to 30 of people. Thats not a way to win a general election. If i were going to choose somebody out of political motivation, i want to see trump lose and i would choose trump himself. Thats all he can do is lose, thank you very much. Host william is on the democratic line from goodyear, arizona. Caller good morning. I just wanted to mention that senator sinema who is now an independent and ran as a democrat and defeated Martha Mcsally is a horrible embarrassment to arizona. My hope and vote is for gallego in 2024. Thank you. Host all right, william in arizona. Lets go now to sewall, new jersey, albert on the republican line. Caller good morning. I could care less about them boxes of material. [indiscernible] ground beef is a most five or six dollars. Everything is costing so much to live. We gave all this money to ukraine, billions of dollars any could have helped the Homeless People in our country. The money is wasted over there. They havent taken care of the people like homeless veterans. They are worried about these boxes and legal papers. Its not important to me, i want to feed my three kids every day. I wish somebody would talk about that on the news. Thank you, have a great rest of the day. Host our next caller is windy in clinton township, michigan, independent line. Caller hi there. My question is, i keep hearing that trump will be able to run for president and everything even though hes got 37 indictments on him . I thought he would not be allowed to run. I just wanted to verify that he can still work for president and even serve yet all these indictments are on him. Can you explain why he is allowed to do that . Host we normally dont respond too much but we have had a lot of callers text about this. I want to read the highlighted portion. Most experts have said even if convicted, President Trump still could run and win in 2024 for those who have been asking. Lets get to glen burnie, maryland, ginger is on the democratic line. Caller good morning. How are you doing today . Host doing well, what your question or comment . Caller i wanted to talk you guys were focusing on voting and talk about a thirdparty. As it is now, you definitely need a lot of money and a lot of wealth to even look at money today. I think thats why we end up having two parties that are so similar especially when it comes to social issues, when it comes to financial issues, things like that. My big thing is we definitely need to level the playing field. Other countries do that they have a greater variety of voters in the have a greater variety of candidates. Thats all i wanted to say today and thanks so much for taking my call. Host we will get back to open form in just a moment we will chat briefly with the Associated Press National Politics reporter meg cannard about the latest on the president ial election and what to expect in the week ahead. Good morning. Guest good morning to you. Host thank you so much for joining us. We received a lot of questions about President Trump and i want to ask you, how have the indictments most recently announced impacted the gop field so far in terms of messaging in light of the news . Guest its been interesting to watch the trump fellow gop rivals reacting to this indictment news and even more interesting considering the fact we kind of have a template for this going back earlier this year to new york state charges on which trump was indicted in watching the gop field react to those. From several candidates including Florida Governor ron desantis and also former South Carolina governor nikki haley, we have heard verbiage around a weaponization of the department of justice. Fellow republicans are questioning the Biden Administrations take on not only a former president from the opposing party but also potentially bidens rival for the 2024 president ial race. We are seeing that characterization from some in the field and we are seeing some like former our concert Governor Asa Hutchinson former arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson telling trump to pull out of the race. He says the country doesnt need to be dealing with. There are others like the biotech entrepreneur who has not only joined others in condemning this weaponization of the federal judicial system and prosecutorial system but also saying he would pardon trump if he reelected to the nations highest office. There is definitely a difference of opinion among the republicans who are competing alongside trump for the gop nomination. Again, when we back earlier this year to alvin braggs case in manhattan against trump, this is similar to what we heard at that point, a first wave of not only support for trump in terms of standing alongside him and saying this case is not something that should have been brought, but also an overall questioning of the system under which it was being brought. We will continue to see how this statement evolves. Its interesting to point out that we heard from a lot of candidates and fellow republicans across the country as soon as news of the indictment came out but then once the details from the indictment were made public there has been kind of a not as loud perhaps response in terms of ingesting the details and seeing what it is the department of justice is alleging. There is just a little bit of a difference in the reaction from that point. Host you also contributed to the associate press coverage over the weekend as President Trump held events in georgia and North Carolina which were his first Public Events since this recent indictment was announced. What was your impression of how he handled his campaign is handling these developments . Guest i think we heard from donald trump over the weekend pretty much what we would have expected. He announced the charges himself on his social media platform and he has been very loud in his condemnation of them and strong in his defense of himself. We heard his characterization of these charges as baseless and without merit. Then he took the opportunity to not only go after the department of justice but also the Biden Administration at large and questioning why these charges were brought against Hillary Clinton back in 2016. I think we are hearing from the former president what we would have expected in terms of his characterization of this case against him. Considering we will be seeing him but not seeing him directly but he will be in federal court this week on these charges, i think we can expect we will continue to hear a lot of that same characterization from him. He will address supporters when he returns back to new jersey after that Court Appearance in miami on tuesday. I would anticipate we will hear a lot of the same sort of messaging. Host do we know yet if the indictment announcement has had any impact on fundraising for the former president . Guest i think we have yet to see officially how much money but i would be sure that once there is a figure, we will be hearing that from trump and his campaign. In the hours and days subsequent to the manhattan indictment earlier this year, there was more than 10 million flagged by the Trump Campaign and his associated committees in terms of what they had brought in. The point of fundraising and purportedly show up report show of support is something they will want to flag. Host im showing the New York Times has the photos of all the declared candidates for president. We see the republicans feel field has already thinned including former President Trump. There were three new entrance last week, former Vice President mike pence, former new Jersey Governor Chris Christie and North Carolina and north dakotas governor. Have the indictments overshadowed the message of these other candidates taking the air out of the room as they tried to break through in a trump challenge . Guest it is going to be tricky for anybody is getting into the race the tickly last weekend. Two into the race, particularly last weekend. We try to see some of the field aiming to campaign as usual while still being asked by reporters like us how you feel about this. They are trying to manage their own Campaign Getting out in the field and raise money and talk to donors and voters. We saw former Vice President mike pence at the same North Carolina Gop Convention as the former president saturday directing delegates earlier in the day. They are hot out on the trail and i will be a tim scott later today in spartanburg, South Carolina where he is rolling up more than 100 state officials to endorse him his campaign here. He will travel to iowa this week and nikki haley and tim scott will be in california this week raising money. Also, ron desantis of florida is making steps in the campaign trail as well heading to nevada. These candidates are certainly having to deal with a lot of the attention on the former president. I think they already knew that regardless of the cases against donald trump that he was still going to be occupying a lot of media and attention in the race. This is now complicated further by the pending legal charges against him. From what we see, they are trying to get out on the campaign trail to continue their own messaging and do that the best they can in this current environment. Host all right,meg canard thank you for joining us this morning. 5 guest good to be with you. Host we will get back to open forum, feel free to give us a call to wait in on the news of the day, republicans, 202 7488001, democrats, 202 7488000, independents 202 7488002. This is negative just, texas, independent. Caller good morning. I wish everybody would [indiscernible] you got an opponent doing wrong. Whatever party it may be. I wish everybody would act like a parent that if they find out if kids do something wrong, they would take them to the jailhouse. They know when a person is doing wrong and they still support their interests. Its because of their party. I wish they would see what the law would say and vote for the right candidate. Host all right, lets go to fort river, new jersey, jerry on the republican line. Caller good morning. I was just wondering, the 1023 document that showed that joe and hunter biden each got 5 million from the ukraine thing, when biden and 2018 was on tv and he said the prosecutor has to be fired, biden wont give you grain that ukraine that 1 billion, is that a quid pro quo well . Is biden saying that ukraine would not get that 1 billion unless the prosecutor from ukraine was fired that was investigating . Isnt that a quid pro quo . And the 1023 document that shows that joe and hunter each got 5 million from the barisma, is that legal . I just have to know. Thank you. Host we will go to donald now in jenet, pennsylvania, democratic line. Caller good morning. Im calling today in regards to yesterdays show. It also has something to do with earlier in this show when you were talking about thirdparty candidates. Yesterday, mr. Sabaco from the university of virginia was on there and he was discussing thirdparty candidates in past elections. He brought up that al gore im sorry, you brought up the ralph nader cost al gore the election in 2000 and that is incorrect. The reason for that is al gore carried his home state of tennessee which has 11 electoral votes to put him at 277. He wouldnt have needed florida to begin with. Al gore lost the election on his own by losing his home state. Mr. Nader did not even get any electoral votes in the election. How did he affect the outcome . I just think that needs to be corrected. Host ray is our next caller in king of prussia, pennsylvania on the independent line. Caller hi. I was just calling to say unfortunately, things are not going to change until theres a new generation of politicians and their. It would be nice if some of the middleaged politicians would change but the way it is now, its crazy that one party just votes whatever the head of the party, whichever way they vote, they should be independentminded. Nobody has an independent mind now. If an independent likewest, he would need the independentminded democrats and republicans to speak up for him, to nominate him and say he is a good guy, why dont we come together around this independent . As far as him doing it alone without help or democrats and republicans, a third party is not going to get anywhere. Its crazy the way people file in. [indiscernible] out of all those republicans, you can find three people that thinks for themselves and say right is right and wrong is wrong . I will vote this way because it will help my people and is the right thing to do3 long story short, an independent person would need democrats and republicans to step out and say,. Lets host , ray. Lets go to minnesota, republican line. Another ray. Caller good morning. I listened to a lot of democrats. A woman called earlier and was upset that trump could be elected even though he has got so many indictments or Something Like that. They are indictments. You can indict a ham sandwich. The democrats already have a criminal in office, joe biden. They do not seem i do not know why they have no concern over the stuff that he has done, but they are all on trump. I am trying to figure out what these crimes are that trump has done. Maybe one of your callers, a democrat caller, you could ask them to name these crimes he committed. I have no idea what they are. It is fictitious stuff they make up. The news media pushes stuff that is not real. It has not been proven. Just like the russia stuff. Remember the russia stuff that cost us, Hillary Clinton did that to us . Just lies. That is all i have got right now. Host arnold is our next call on the democratic line in wallkill, new york. Caller good morning. I have a question for our regular republicans that keep calling in. Ask yourself one question. Why did donald trump have all of these documents . The most disturbing thing to me is how he stored them. You talk about how proud of this country, he stored our most precious secrets in the trash. Lets will the tapes. Role the tapes. Here is a man who has been convicted for not paying his taxes, that has cheated on his wife. My parents told me if you like, you will steal lie, you will steal. I want someone to call and tell me why this man had all these documents. When joe biden found out he had his documents, he probably forgot he had them. To have someone come get them. He did not have his lawyers lying for him. One thing about donald trump, he hires criminal lawyers because you have to be a criminal first and then a lawyer. That is all i have to say. Host all right. Lets go to the independent line. Karen is calling from charlotte, michigan. Caller are you there . Can you hear me . Host go ahead. Caller i would like to see a similar amount of time you have given falsified, constructed, orchestrated story about donald trump. I would like you to see you give the same amount of time to investigations with Joanne Hunter biden. You are starting to sound more like cnn every day. It is beginning to bother me. Goodbye. Host we have guests on all the time showing different sides of the conversation. Check out our Expansive Library on cspan. Org for all types of viewpoints. Lets go to the republican line now. Jody is calling from overgaard, arizona. Caller yes, hi. Thank you for taking my call. I would like to congratulate the gentleman that talked about the woman who was calling and saying, 37 indictments, how will he run for president . You explained it well, but what she didnt think an indictment is not a conviction. That is what the grand jury said, go ahead and have a trial. During a grand jury, there is not a defense. There is nobody there representing trump. It is the prosecutor saying, this is what we have got, what do you 22 people think . Only 12 of them have to say go ahead with a trial. Another thing, these are people who are voting. Do you think they have a basic concept of our laws, that you can determine who is going to represent us . And all of the lies . Like another woman who called in and said that biden got us this huge Social Security increase. That Social Security increase is based in the pudding, it depends on inflation. Which, biden brought inflation up to the roof. Social security got a big bump. Things like that, people need to understand what is true and what is not true. I do not know anyone is going to get the truth when people lie constantly. Thank you for taking my call. Host lets go to loretto in shreveport, louisiana, democratic line. Caller yes, my name is loretta w. Francis and i live at 5930 yukon drive. My daughters name is didi, but her real name is diandra lynette atteberry. My sons name is timothy, you see right there . Wiggins. I only have two kids and my brother name is Henry Wiggins junior. He was in vietnam. I am calling on his behalf. That is what i have got to say. I will be calling in from now on. The first caller that you had on that was talking about trump. Trump should have been in jail when he started out lying about obama wasnt born in the united states. You all let him go on with that lie all the way through his president , he still line from the time he got in there until the time he you know what, obama throwing down a lot because his behind would have been in jail when he told the first like. I do not listen to nothing he said, that is all i want to say. This is my first time calling, i have been watching you all almost since i retired when i called the first show. You, i want to know if you can send me a copy of this here because the first woman that i heard this morning, take her to the nursing home because she is senile. Host ok, you can have someone help you navigate our website to find video from today or any other show. Lets go to the republican line now. Tom is calling from charlotte, North Carolina. Caller good morning. I just wanted to say i think anybody who has been holding these confidential documents illegally should be prosecuted and in jail equally. They are all breaking the law, they should be treated like criminals. Host all right, tom. Ann is our next caller in new york city on the democratic line. Caller yes, i am calling because judge cannon has already shown her allegiance is not to the rule of law but to donald trump. In order to get her to resign, which is the only way you can get her off being the judge on this case is to show that the public has no confidence in her ability to be fair. So, you should call judge cannons office at 7724672340 and say you have no confidence in her ability to judge this case. Thank you. Host lets go to the independent line now. Tom is calling from rio rancho, new mexico. You are on, tom. Caller thank you very much for my call. First of all, about that particular woman judge for the indictment. I believe she needs to recuse herself and go forward from there. I also want to point out, i used to be a republican years ago under ronald reagan, but not anymore. The Republican Party has changed and is out of control. I have a quote from dwight d. Eisenhower of march 6 1956. I think this is what the situation is right now with the Republican Party. If a Political Party does not have its foundation and determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a Political Party. It is merely a conspiracy to seize power. I have a feeling to dwight d. Eisenhower was feeling about his party at that particular time, that is the way i feel about the Political Party, the Republican Party as of right now. I believe the American People need to understand the situation as it is. Thank you. Host we are in open forum right now. Republicans, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. Lets go to the republican lines. Randy is calling from kentucky. Caller good morning. What ironies here. I saw last night where it was reported biden signed off on the doj investigating, indicting trump. Now, once you all have his campaign rallies, lock him up, hillary will be on stage with him. Throw that piston the air, lock him up. Lock him up, lock him up. [laughter] you people are insane. Thank you. Host our next caller is ted in hawaii on the democratic line. Caller hello. Host hi, tes. Go ahead. Caller i like to keep things Pretty Simple and i want you guys a lot. Everybody on both sides keeps talking about lies and this and that. Everybody has a gut instinct. Gut instinct is what tells you what the truth is. I think because of all the back and forth lies, people are going to have to rely on their gut instinct. They can look at donald trump talking, walking across the stage. They can look at joe biden, they can look at their history. I can just see it is going to be a gut instinct call for most of us because you cannot hardly believe what you hear on a lot of television. We need to rely on our gut instinct. I was in the air force during the vietnam war, you had to rely on your gut instinct to sur vive. Everybody needs to get their gut instinct and go with that. There is too much one side line again the other side lying. Unfortunately, i think we are going to have to rely on our gut instinct to get to the truth. Host now lets go to northern virginia. Hugo is calling on the independent line. Caller thanks, good morning cspan. Thanks for taking my call, i appreciate it. I think one of the colors earlier said that the end of the day, the mishandling of documents, i think they called them falsify documents or what have you, they should be prosecuted. I think a lot of callers do not appreciate the fact that we, there is a lot of effort to make these things secure and to ensure that any violation of that should be prosecuted at the extent of the law. It is unfortunate some of the previous politicians who also may or may not have done some of these things are not prosecuted as well. They should all be prosecuted equally. They should take account for it. That is one of the biggest issues that we see. In general, the idea that you just cannot we all have responsibilities, wherever you are, working or what you are doing. You have to live up to them. Lynn is asian of hopefully, a lot of your callers, today there is a desire for greater truth and transparency and i would hope that the government can work harder to wrestle with that and provide that transparency so that voters can make informed decisions about character, about individuals and who they want, who they do not want in office. Thanks for taking the call and thanks for what you do and trying to trying as hard as you can to report what is happening and not just commentary. Thank you very much. Host we are still in open forum. I want to bring up todays wall street journal front page because we have received a lot of calls that reference the indictment of former President Trump. This article headlines, trump special counsel spots early strategies. It says arraignment set for tuesday in a legal battle that comes as the 24th 2024 primary heats up. Im going to start with the second paragraph. It says trumps legal team is likely to seize on two key factors as it mounts a court room defense against a detailed early seven count indictment brought by special counsel jack smith. His past president ial powers to declassified documents and the looming 2024 election from which trump is the early republican front lower front runner. It will also seek to benefit from the trial florida venue. That is a little bit of former President Trumps strategy as he prepares for his first appearance in federal court on tuesday. Open forum continues. Our next caller is on the republican line. Joan in cleveland, go ahead. Caller good morning. I just one to say that when President Trump was in charge, i could go to sleep at night and cannot wait for the next morning to listen to the news. Now that we have joe biden in the house, i am afraid to see what he has done the previous night. I just think he is the worst president that we have ever had. I do not care what anyone says. His age is against him. He has fallen, he is tripping. He walks like he is going to fall forward. I do not see any sense to this. When trump was in charge, my Interest Rates were low. Now, biden bailed out the banks and all my cards, the Interest Rates went sky high. He made a mistake and he should have never, ever raised our interest. If you look at your cards and your interest, you are going to see they are skyhigh. Nobody cares about the little guy. If trump was in charge, we never, ever would have had all of this commotion and all of those people in the federal that were supposed to be looking at over the banks, they all should be fired. 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