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Court hears oral argumenin a case on whether formerredent donald tru has president ial immutygainst criminal prosecution for his alleged rule and attemp t overturnhe 2020 election results. We will have live coverage of the oral argument thursday, april 25 getting at 10 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan, cspan n our free mobile video app and online at cspan. Org. Host joining us from capitol hill this morning, congresswoman sam sabin congressman judy chu. Your response to the Arizona Supreme Court decision on the abortion ban . Guest outrageous and based on a law is passed arizona was a state women had the right to vote. To deprive women of the ability to have an abortion player, for 50 years before the dobbs decision, this arizona law, its very drastic, doesnt even provide exceptions in the case of rape or incest. It its a people of arizona in a terrible position. Host from the ruling, in light of this opinion, physicians are on notice that all abortions, except those necessary to save the womans life, are illegal. How do you determine when you need to save a womans life . Guest well, this is exactly why she why we should not such as this. I spoke to a woman in texas who was carrying a fetus who had abnormalities, they needed an abortion to save their lives. Officials were not willing to do it because they thought that this would be considered an abortion, therefore illegal. What determines the question, including having an abortion for a fetal abnormality, which could actually endanger a womans life . Host former President Donald Trump was asked in atlanta about the abortion ban in arizona. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] did arizona go too far . They did. It will get straightened out. Its all about states rights, that will be state straightened out. Im sure the governor and everyone else will bring it back into reason and that will be taken care of. What about florida . Florida is probably maybe going change also. Its the people, its a perfect system. For years, people wanted to end roe v. Wade, give it back to the states. We did that, it was an incredible thing. We did that, now the states habit and the states are putting out what we want, the will of the people. So, florida is probably going to change. Arizona is going to definitely change. You are getting the will of the people. Its been pretty amazing, when you about it. Host the former president saying the arizona law goes too far, he predicts arizona will have to change and bring it back to what he says is within reason. Guest trunk goes to where the political winds fall. On the ballot, we know that they have voted on the side of reproductive rate rights. We have seen that in states that are very red. Like kentucky. Trump knows this is a losing issue for him, especially with regards to women and people who care about women. So, i think that he changed his position, to some extent, by saying it should be states rights. Saying look, actions speak louder than words. He has been campaigning on overturning roe v. Wade. He was the first president to be in a march for life rally. He has been doing Everything Possible to get restrictions on abortion, including actually advocating for the 2017 house bill, which would have provided a National Abortion ban. His opinions, let me say, our influx. Host what is the Womens Health protection act . Guest it would provide the protections of roe v. Wade, women in every state regardless of zip code. They would be able to make determinations over her body it would ensure that states could not erode the right. It would make sure that every woman has the right to the Supreme Court decision. Host has the white house endorsed your decision . Guest President Biden said he would sign the bill into law once it passed the house and senate. It passed twice. We look forward to passing it. Host the president has said that if the American People give him a congress that would approve legislation like yours, roe v. Wade would become the law of the land again. Heres abc news, major hurdles to the promise, the reality check behind the big abortion promise, taking back the house, reclaiming the majority in the senate, no easy feat, congresswoman, as you know. On top of that, there would certainly be legal challenges to any legislation. When your bill stand up to legal challenges . Guest i believe it stands on strong legal grounds of any court challenge. I know that once we are able to take back the house, i believe that we have the vote. When the votes went out of the house previously, it was the strongest prochoice proabortion vote ever taken in history of congress. We know it will continue. I believe that abortion is a decisive issue in the United States for this november election in every state, in every congressional election. Abortion is top of mind for many women, regardless of their party regardless of independent. Its a fundamental right for every woman, the freedom to decide what to do with her body. Host the Womens Health protection act passed in september of 2020 one. Just one democrat affected, Henry Cuellar of texas, who joined every republican to vote against it. Nbc says that there are still quiet divisions among democrats on how far to go on legal abortion, which could come to the forum. The president says he wants to restore the rights that existed before dobbs, but many abortion rights advocates believe those rights were too narrow and allowed for statebased restrictions. Would you put yourself in that camp . Guest i think the states tried to erode the rights of roe v. Wade, they chip away at it, and in fact they passed over 400 state laws that were nonsensical, dictating clinic doors and abortion clinics, saying that physicians had to have admitting rights in hospitals when physicians did not need to have that, requiring very invasive kinds of procedures, like ultrasounds. Those invasive state laws were an attempt to take away abortion rights one by one. That is why i actually introduced the womans Health Protection act in 2013. I knew that we could not play whack a mole with these different state laws. Instead, we needed to make sure that this right is available in every state and every zip code. Host congresswoman judy chu is with us this morning, democrat of california, its your turn to ask her about these questions, and any topic and other policy debates. Barbara, good morning. Caller i believe that if the womans life is in danger when she finds out she is pregnant, that if the doctor, if it is his opinion, she can have an abortion. But i dont believe anything after that, that should be in abortion after that, because thats taking a life and im a christian. I feel thats taking a life. I know sometimes kids are women, the woman gets pregnant and the man doesnt care what am i trying to say, they are thinking like they are in a trauma, they have an abortion and they regret it the rest of their life. Thats how i feel about it. Host congresswoman . Guest kate cox was in texas, pregnant, when her doctor said that her fetus had a genetic abnormality and that the fetus would not survive, but that also kate coxs future fertility would be endangered and, in fact, possibly her life would be in danger. Her doctor actually advocated for her to have an abortion. But the courts would not allow her to do that. At great danger to herself, she had to cross state lines when she was sick in order to have an abortion. Her doctor actually agreed with her. Yet because these abortion laws have gone to such an extreme level in the antiabortion states, people like kate cox, who simply wanted to have a child, had their life endangered. That is not right. Host we are talking with congresswoman judy chu, democrat of california. Here is how you can join the conversation this morning. Republicans, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. Text us as well, we will share those, at 202 7488003. Roberta, san diego, republican, you are up next for the congresswoman. Caller im a little embarrassed you are up there. To begin with, you are one of the 70 people who did not even respect the peoples vote when donald trump got elected to. I find anything you have to say to be twofaced, not genuine. I would say that since you and your Democrat Party have been running on abortion, the dirtiest thing we can ever ask a woman to do and never used the word condom for any man, we would therefore not even need abortion. I find it amazing that you have the nerve to go up there and act as if you are really representing the women. You are representing a group of people who will do anything they have to do in order to get their way about something. We use the women every day by using abortion to run on things and get elected and so on. We have seen this for years. I would say that as a woman, a mother, grandmother, greatgrandmother, had a great great mother, its so offending to me, i dont even know what to say that you are up there representing the state of california. Host congresswoman, your response . Guest i am proud to stand up for the women of america. I am proud to stand up for the right of a woman to choose what happens to her own body. There are so many women, like kate cox, the woman i was just talking about, who want a child. Yet when her doctor tells her that that child would endanger her life, had to do something about it, obviously, to save her life and save for future fertility, and then i think about the 10yearold in indiana, in ohio, who was raped, and was pregnant, and her little 10yearold body probably would not be able to tolerate a pregnancy to full term, but also it is not right for her to carry that baby to full term. So this little 10yearold had to go to indiana to get an abortion. Thankfully, there was an incredible doctor who was willing to do that, and that abortion was done. We are talking about a womans right to make a decision on her body, but we are also talking about basic humanity and decency. Host congresswoman, is there a compromise on the limit on when people can seek an abortion with the exceptions that youre talking about . Is there a compromise in this country, at some point, where we would say you cannot have an abortion . Guest well, i know that there are states that are talking about the week of cut off for an abortion. I would say to you if a state passes say say a 16 week abortion ban, what if a woman needs an abortion and the she passes that 16 weeks by one day . Is that fair . Is that right . I dont think it is. Of course, the states are going even further in their restrictions, wanting a sixweek band, even before a woman knows she is pregnant. In other words, meaning and elimination of all abortions. So, what i think should be done is that the decision should be made between a woman and her doctor. The doctor has the best sense for how that woman could survive and how she could best have that baby or not have that baby. Its the decision of the woman regarding her future choices in life, but also with regards to her health. That is a very private decision. If we dont respect that womans private decision, we dont respect women at all. Host we will go to joe in iowa, democratic caller. Caller representative, think you for everything you do. Greta, love your show. In iowa we have a specific governor who is very much telling women what to do with abortion rights. I also believe i was on a plane with a banker, talking about how you deal with your money and what you do with your money and how you use your money. He said he was afraid the Biden Administration would have too many regulations. Then i said to him wouldnt it be interesting if Jared Kushner had the point to tell you how you have your abortions are not and how to do your money or not. My question to the representative is how can people of solid foundations and good religious people, which they tend to lean towards the trump, i cant figure out how people with good values would go into such a state as we are doing with, you know, money and abortion. My question is, how do we get to this point with republicans, representative chu . And thank you for all the good you are doing, i appreciate the things you are doing. Thank you, greta. Guest well, thank you. Im the democratic representative, just to be clear, but i would say that President Biden is doing what and to help the American People. It is to make sure that everybody has basic rights. For instance, basic rights to be healthy. That is why President Biden was so involved in the inflation reduction act, which ultimately brought the price of insulin down to 35 a month for seniors, as well as put a cap on prescription drugs to 2000 a year. And he was instrumental in getting the affordable broadband act passed so that there would be a discount on broadband for everyday people. This is really important, you know . Yeah, you point out that there is a wealthy person who may feel uncomfortable about some policies, but i tell you, wealthy people employ people who may not be so wealthy. There is a huge and growing wealth disparity gap in this country with of the haves and havenots. And our country doesnt work very successfully when there are so many in the have not category. So, we need to equalize that and that is why we reduced the price of insulin. That is why we know we have to make prescription drugs affordable. That is why we have to cancel student debt for the most needy. These are important qualityoflife issues for the American People. Host ray, independent line. Pittsburgh. Caller just an observation, your congresswoman here presents one side of the issue and paints the picture as a lot of politics , which she seems to have in her decisionmaking, but when you break it down, really, everywoman woman has the right to choose and most of the abortions i dont know the percentage are just people having sex for fun and then decide, if they are lucky enough to get pregnant, decide they want to kill the baby. You dont ever presented that way, you present it as a womans right to choose when she certainly had a right to choose in the beginning before conception. Then you bring anecdotal evidence of somebodys hardship because they have to cross a state line, like they have to get a passport or something instead of a 3 hour drive just to kill the baby. You should just present the whole issue. Nobodies shes never saying we are taking a human life here, and thats a serious, serious thing to consider. Host all right, well get a response. Congresswoman . Guest you know, as you were talking, ray, i thought about a woman i met in text this. I went to a hearing in texas and she testified very bravely in front of the ways and means committee. She told her story. She was so excited to be told by her doctor that she was pregnant with twins. She really wanted these children. And then her doctor told her that one of the twins was going to die because his brain did not have the fluid necessary to become a full human being. Now, prior to texas passing its ban on abortion, she could have easily gotten an abortion for that dying twin. But now, even though she appealed to the hospital, even though she appealed to the court, they all said no. And so, she was sick. She was sick, vomiting, and the only choice she had was to drive for not three hours, we are talking about many, many hours, to get up to colorado to be able to have an abortion of that fetus. Thank goodness her other fetus did survive and she had a healthy baby. But you know what . You are not in the shoes of women who are experiencing such incredible difficulties because of these state abortion bands. So, think about them. Host congresswoman, what about the woman who does not want to have children . There are not the medical reasons or the exceptions of rape and incest, but simply do not want to have children. Do they have a right to seek an abortion . Guest well, you know what . The question is whether we respect women are not. A woman knows what is right for her in her particular period of decisionmaking. One thing we know, there is something called the turnaround study done in the last couple of years. It was about poverty and women who are pregnant. Those women who do not have access to an abortion are five times more likely to go into poverty, because they cannot make the decision about whether to continue in school or continue in a job. Those decisions are robbed from them. As a result, they cannot make the decisions that are best for them. I think we should respect the ability of women to make a choice about what is best for them at a particular time in life. Host kansas city, missouri, democratic caller, next. Caller i want to speak to the representative speaking out about this. Its a shame that you have crusty old men telling women what to do with their bodies. Its shameful, it shouldnt be happening. That should be between a woman, her physician, and her family, or her god. That should be a personal thing. These men get orders and prescriptions about viagra to keep they self big in viral and Everything Else and vero, Everything Else veral, no one says everything about that any thing about that, but women are always told what to do. I think thats not right and i think we will show them how we feel about that in november. Thank you so much for what you do. Host congresswoman . Guest thank you for that. Yeah, its very onesided. Women should not be told what to do by senator marco rubio in washington, d. C. Why should he have something to do with their decision about having a baby . I also want to point out another male who is trying to stop women , the judge who is trying to take the first stone away as as as an ability to have an abortion. Method for stone is the Abortion Pill that is used in half the abortions in this country. It is safe, it is effective. Yeah, there is a male judge who thinks he knows more about medications than the fda. The fda. The food and drug administration, who has all the scientific knowledge, approved method for stone 20 years ago. They went to all the scientific studies. They found that it was safe. And it has been in use for 20 years safely. And yet this male judge in texas thinks he knows better about, about pills, about abortion,. I think that is not right. Also nonscientific. He has thrown science out the window. We should not let these judges make this kind of decision. You know, if this male judge gets his way, he could just say hey, i want to outlaw this other fda drug, a drug that might be critical for your life. No, we should make our decisions based on the science. Also on respecting womens rights. Congresswoman, we have about a minute left. What are your thoughts on reauthorizing section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act . Guest section 702 needs a warrant requirement. I understand the fisa is important in terms of figuring out whats going on with that actors outside the u. S. I understand that. We need to be able to protect u. S. Security interests. Sometimes, those inquiries have led to data coming out from u. S. Citizens. I have to tell you, and 2021 a fisa found that there were 278,000 improper of u. S. Citizens. These were black lives matter protesters. It was not proper. That the house will be in order. This year cspan celebrates 45 years of covering Congress Like no other. 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