,epublicans www. Cspan. Org 202 7370002 republicans , independents 202 6280205. The hill newspaper this morning reports that shutdown are no shutdown lawmakers will get paid. The constitution requires all members of congress be paid. It is merely a question of timing. Shutdown pay for house members can be withheld temporarily. And in political this morning, president obama canceled his asian trip to fight the Government Shutdown. He was scheduled to leave washington this weekend to go to ali and brunei. Kerryary of state john will take the president s place. Back to the hill newspaper. This is an article, a long article that was in political this morning. Bad blood for feuding leaders. Senate majority leader harry fellowivately told Democratic Senators this week what he really thought of Speaker John Boehner. A little bit from the politico article this morning. As we announced prior to coming up on the washington journal,. Joining us for a few minutes is robert costa, the washington editor of the National Review. What is going to happen today . The fiscal impact is happen for a couple of weeks. Speaker john boehner cant find a way to cut a deal with his own conference that will get a clean cr to fund the government and also extend the debt limit. Host are he and harry reid talking at all . Not only are they not really speaking, but the same time their staffs have a lot of acrimony between them as well. That is really the problem on capitol hill. The relationships between the leaders are poisonous and the relationships between the staff. The gauche nations arent happening at all. There are no behindthescenes talks. The urbane or is working within his own conference and so was Senate Majority leader harry reid. Where are the big talks . Theyre just not happening. The house and senate are in session today. Was he house going to be doing and was on the senates bill . Guest the most important is a closeddoor meeting in the basement of the capitol. Saye leaders are going to what is the path ahead . Will republicans resist that trade are the conservatives not going to let that happen within the house . If they are going to continue the shutdown they have to come up with a strategy, how you can combine the debt limit deal with the cr deal i can pass the house. That is going to be a difficult proposition. The senate, meanwhile, is just waiting to see what the house does. Senate leader harry reid will reject anything that is not a clean cr. The papers have a similar headline to the New York Times headline. October 17 seems to be the drop deadline for the debt ceiling. Boehner speaking on . Guest the caucus ar guest behind the scenes, Speaker John Boehner, from what my context tell me, has always wanted to avoid default. He had meetings with members at the capital and talked about trying to get some fiscal package together to avert default. To use,is trying simultaneously, the debt limit as a leverage point trade he wants to get some sort of healthcare concession or tax reform concession from the debt limit heard but it is wanted is byt rate the problem signaling this privately in a godly to the New York Times, a lot of conservative members think that boehner is in some ways caving ahead of the deadline or signaling his intention so that the country knows it will not default. Something that boehner has to do with constantly and is not easy. Editorobert costa is the is thewashington washington editor of the National Review magazine. There is this picture, panic on capitol hill, of a woman who drove the car who was shot dead by capitol hill police. Nbc ons an article in their website. Capitol police could face delayed paychecks because of shutdown. After frightening incident where shots were fired. Observers were quick to point out that the people protecting congress from threats are also facing the impact of the ongoing Government Shutdown. That is on nbc news. Com. Virginia is a republican. What are your thoughts on what is going on . Caller i have been listing to cspan and thank you for the great talents conversation that goes on. Ive been listening over the last three days. The thing that i become frustrated with and i wanted to constant he almost every day i hear at least to college during this. That talk about that this is about racism and disrespect for , that republicans are out to deny him any victory because they are racist. I wanted to disagree with that completely and say look, this is a real and substantial debate about the size of government and the role of government in our lives. I would hope that the other side would actually accept that and understand that there is a real concern about the Affordable Care act, obamacare, and its drag upon the american economy, the number of jobs being cut, the number of people being taken down to part time status, the number of companies abandoning neither insurance plans. The fact that the economy essentially should be a lot farther along in its recovery than what it is and that it is being held back by the terms and conditions of the Affordable Care act. No animus towards a president with regards to his race. In fact to have a lot of respect for the president on a personal level. I love the fact that is seated the fact that he is a family man and he spends his time with michelle and the children and is not in the social circuit. Ofm concerned about his lack involvement in the daytoday ross says. Host dean is in muncie, indiana. Yes, good morning. Something about this obama care or Affordable Care act. We have laws against dead beat dads and moms. What about did the male and female young people that could afford to help pay for their healthcare . They say they are healthy and they dont need it. Listen, i worked in an emergency room. I know about how many young people come in gang fighting with guns, come in with overdose and i think that the democrats and republicans both should think about that. Thank you. Host next caller. Stanley in westborough, massachusetts. Caller ok. I just had to move into a studio from a onebedroom to help cut costs. I am an engineer. I actually had to work 15 years and it drifted into a cash because theyy didnt do the right thing with the taxes that i would hate if i did any. Knowhile, i would like to who the 2000 people who turned in their citizenship where out of curiosity. That is last year. , i dont carer about the obama care. I only worry about the young people in my family tree. So stanley, what would you like to see happen with regard to the shutdown. Caller i dont know how to correct what they are not doing. I just dont know. Host all right. We appreciate your weighing in this morning. Ill site search for a deal House Republicans led by Speaker John Boehner are coalescing around a strategy to reach one big agreement to end the shutdown eliminate the threat of default. Tony, winchester, massachusetts republican line. What are your thoughts on the shutdown . Over the vehement objections of democrats in both the house and the senate. Overouse passed it democrat objections and the senate refuse to pass it. The republicans in the house are doing the right thing to stop the default, but it is not getting reported. Establishment media ignores anything that is inconvenient to the democrats. The threat ofe of default directly on the democrats. Their arrogant insistence on getting their own way and refusing to compromise and obamas refusal to negotiate is unprecedented rate they have no respect. They are totally irresponsible and im not hearing that from anywhere in the establishment media. Cspan for allowing us to opportunity to hearing the unvarnished and uncorrected news. I dont see it in the boston globe. Unseated in the New York Times or network television. Thank you for taking my call. As far as obama negotiating with the republicans echo they stated theirhen they went to retreat that they would not negotiate with the president anymore. Understand what good this is doing with the Government Shutdown. It is not going to stop obamacare, so why not go ahead thenass a clean cr bill . Negotiate the budget and all. This is a normal way that it is done. Backenate passed a budget six months ago and they never would the republicans refuse to bring it to congress. One hour before shutdown they decided they want to bring it to conference. What would they be able to do in there. And thank you. The the lead story from christopher is in plumber ville, arkansas on the independent line. Caller i would just like to say the other caller who called in and said he didnt think this was about race. Ive never seen a president so disrespected in all my life. I prayed for every president that has been up there. People just get together and realize that we are all going to have to pay for this, it looks like it is too , but this is not how you do it. We just need to get together and realize that we are a country. It is rich and poor images everybody and we need to just do the right thing. Host that is christopher in arkansas. In theident spoke washington dc suburbs yesterday. Heres a little bit of what he had to say. Message forple today is, call a vote. Call a vote. Put it on the floor and let every individual member of Congress Make up their own mind. And they can show the American People are you for a shutdown or at geico if youre not for shutdown you will vote for the bill. If you are for a shutdown you wont vote for a bill. We dont have to twist anybodys arms. But that way the American People will be clear about who is responsible for the shutdown. Or, alternatively, more hopefully, they would be clear that this is something that does make sense and we should go ahead and make sure that were looking out for the American People. It should be that simple. Front page of the New York Times. Some of our tweets that we are receiving this morning. Ron says, as predicted, people are catching on to the democrats responsibility for the shutdown very efficient sam says we need a full audit of the government. Here is fred. The house is the absolute power to pick what they will find. And on our facebook page, which is full of comments from the last couple of days, over 10,000 right now, here are some recent ones. Gus says rick is in south pompano, florida on our republican line. Caller thanks for taking my call. I believe the republicans are to stand together and vote together is prettye country much bankrupt. Social security, our educational system, we are number 22 in the world and put the most money into education of any other country in the world. Care, peopleth knowthis is bad, they were on our way to a detroit on a national level. People knowledge in their gut. I know it is apples and oranges, no matter how much you try to convince people, they know it is not right. What is going on with their finances and with our government. Host thank you very much. Host democrats chose the shutdown, he writes. Even when it comes to something as basic and apparently is simple and straightforward as the question of who should down the federal government, there are diametrically opposed answers, depending on when the top two democrats or two republicans. The whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do regardless of what the other branches do. The powerssing specifically granted to that branch by the constitution. The hundreds of thousands of government workers who have been loughed and that is a little bit from tom souls National Review online. We will be spending the morning at the National Review. All of our guest will be coming from there. Lucerne, california. A democrat, hayek, paul. Paul. Caller im an independent, but i kind of lean towards democrats. I have been watching government since 1979 really closely. I have never seen it this bad before. We have to do something. We have to get money out of politics and get back to the business of running our country. All these people that say government is out of control, well, they dont really understand the whole big picture. Government is there to protect the average person. What is out of control as corporations and big business. They are running everything right now. That is what is out of control. Time toave to take the get educated because unfortunately you dont always get the best news from corporate news. To say it is leaning to the left is really a joke because it is really leaning towards the right trade look at the pundits. Look at who is on fox on tv all the time. No, it is not fair. For paul, thank you calling in. You mentioned money in politics. Posts the washington article. Is just a bit about the Supreme Court to, the case theyre going to be hearing on money and some of the other cases they will be theing heard this is from Washington Times this morning. Residential powers, National LaborRelations Board versus no caps on. The Court Session began on tuesday, october 1. Our last call is charles in camden, new york. Republican. Charles, are you with us . Caller yes. Thank you for cspan and taking my call. Say that, you the blame game has got to stop and we have to get together and do their job and sit down and talk with one side and the other and we are getting nowhere. It is affecting a lot of people. I dont know if this is because of Big Government and they just whatever,sture and do but if they really want to help the American People and they care about the American People and stand united, they need to get to work and get it done. There is no reason not to come together on both sides. Thank you for taking my call. Calling in. You for as we have indicated the rest of the show will be with National Review guests. We will start with the publisher, jack fowler. Weer that, robert costa who met a little earlier. He is the washington editor of the National Review. He will also be taking your calls. Well be back with the publisher of the National Review. She was the powerbroker behind her husbands administration. After he died, the news of corruption began to emerge. She burned his letters and documents in an attempt to preserve his legacy. Saturday at 7 p. M. Eastern on c span. Our series continues. Where calvin and grace met for the first time. She was a teacher living in a dormitory here and he was a tenant in a boarding house. Here is where grace would have looked out and seen calvin across the courtyard at the next building. She would have at a candle in this window here to signify to that thee hollow parlor room below them was available for them to meet in. This is where calvin and grace when the recording would meet up. They would sit and talk and have some time together. The second being in his tour 30s and she in her 20s, they had to abide by the rules of the school and needed to meet somewhere where they were supervised and chaperoned while they were on campus. Meet first lady Grace Coolidge monday night live eastern. Also on cspan radio and c span. Org. Leaders, really good. Eaders, are often impatient they are often somewhat intemperate, there sometimes the leaderbecause who always listens to everyone, always listens to all the viewpoints, wants to make sure that everybody is convinced before he or she finally makes a decision, you just lose valuable time. I think a good leader does have a sense of impatience, is impatient in overly long meetings where a lot of people make contributions to demonstrate their knowledge as opposed to actually advancing the cause of the meeting. A lot of leaders then violate Good Management behavior and him as they say, stop talking about that please. We have heard that before. The only thing you can do to say it is just keep quiet please we need to get this over with. What defines a great leader . Bob lutz on icons and idiots sunday night on cspan two. Washington journal well the to read National Review has been around since 1955 in the current publisher is jack fowler. He joins us from the reviews washington office. How did the review get started and why . Well, first of all good morning peter and thanks for having me. Thanks for being here at National Review. Is a Great Institution and so is cspan. We are happy to be here with you. Mybehalf of of rich lowry, colleague and the editor of the National Review. I brought some props with me. I will do a little reading. The first issue of national 1955w from 1955, november , it was founded by William F Buckley junior who most people know and have great admiration for. The me tell you why it exists. This is one of the more famous quotes from National Review in the first issue. Aboard history yelling stop at a time when no one is inclined to do so or to have much patience with those who urge it. This was the intent of National Review. The movement and tide of history was very liberal. Whittaker chambers was not our National Review staff originally thought he was joining the losing side when he moved from communism to conservatism. Liberal,my was very the establishment very liberal and National Review was created by bill because he perceived and understood see if a real need to have a conservative voice, a distinct, respectable, intelligent and witty conservative voice to counterbalance the prevailing establishment. Been how long have you with rev