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Projections is the power of life, the power of the biosphere. So we shouldnt dismiss it, but we need to heed that power and support that power. And now i can close with that quote that i really like. As i mentioned that the friend in texas who gets all their water from dew, she what she says is we can be the beavers on the landscape. We can be the restorers of the water cycle and all that that goes with it. So there we are. Its a choice we have, and i know its really, really hard, and sometimes i think that all of kind of the craziness that is going on right now, you know, politically and in all kinds of ways, that somehow thats like, its like a deep concern. Its almost like sparks out of some, like, very profound malaise and not knowing what to do. But i do feel very strongly that, a couple things, that what stands in our way is imagination , and also that its how we talk about these challenges. And thats why i make a point of lets kind of reframe Climate Change, okay . Were talking about these cycles. Because if its just Climate Change like this, you know, kind of big, looming, you know, it like raises fear, and theres nothing we can do about it except be protest against the oil except protest against the Oil Companies which we certainly need to, you know, we need to get off fossil fuels. We know that. But we also know that isnt going to be enough, and thats the distress thats kind of lurking. But if we work on the basis of these cycles, i think we can, we can and by working on ecosystems and restoring landscapes, yeah, i think, i think we can get there. Does your book end with a lot of hope . Well [laughter] yes. There hope [inaudible] theres hope in every chapter. Im talking to people who are very hopeful and who have seen tremendous improvements in their land, because thats what i wanted to see. I wanted to see what is possible. Because if we dont know whats possible, what can we how can well, that can spark our imagination of whats possible. So, yes. Yes, theres a lot of hope. [applause] thank you. Thank you. [applause] again, i want to thank you all for coming, and judith will be available downstairs to sign books. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks. And this weekend on booktv op our after words programming youll hear from New York Times president and Ceo Mark Thompson talking about the language of politics. Hes interviewed by Huffington Post founder arianna huffington. And were live this weekend from the brooklyn book festival in new york. Youll hear authors talk about economics, terrorism, politics and much more. And thats on sunday. For a complete schedule of our coverage from brooklyn, visit us at booktv. Org. Some other programs to watch out for this weekend, we have an interview with the newlyswornin librarian of congress, carla hayden, talking about her life and career. Ruth Bader Ginsburg reflects on her time on the high court in her new book, and pulitzer prizewinning historian alan taylor examines the american revolution. Plus, booktv visits grand rapids, michigan, to tour the citys literary sites. Now, those are just a few of the programs youll hear and see this weekend on booktv. For a complete television schedule, go to booktv. Org. Booktv on cspan2, its 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors. Television for serious readers. When we confronted the pakistanis, we were enraged at them, and, of course, their answer the whole point was they were going the look the other way, we were going to go take him out. We had to take the body out, and we were not going to talk about it. Not for a week or ten days. It was all agreed, the president then would announce we had a drone raid, we do it all the time, in the hindu kush mountains on the pakistani not on the pakistan, on the afghan side, making clear it was on the afghan side. And we hit a house with a hellfire missile, and we did an aftera action look and we found the long, tall guy there. Bin ladens 64, and we did dna, and by god, we got im. And that was just as good. I remember it vividly, because it was a sunday night here in washington. By 7 30 or 8 there were reports all over the media that the president has a special announcement, and by 10 00 there were stories it might have to do with binned laden, but he didnt bin laden. What was going on was a fight, because there was pressure on him, political pressure from the political advisors not to wait the seven or ten days. They were very angry at robert gates, the republican secretary of defense whom gates had, if you remember, gates had been reappointed or allowed to stay by hed been appointed he replaced rumsfeld by george bush, and he was very close to the bush family, gates was. And when obama came in, he reappointed him. But two and a half years later, there was tension inside be, a republican doing things, and gates was very much against some of the things that happened in the operate operation. He thought we should just bomb the place and let it go and not jeopardize the seals because if something had gone wrong and theyd be captured, they had no protection. They were basically committing a war crime. He was a prisoner of war, was the point, and they executed a prisoner of war. And they went into a country without any notice to the authorities. Thats theoretically what happened. So anyway, heres what the issue was for gates, basically, and for me as a journalist whats so important about pakistan . Why do we have, spend so much time cozying up to the generals who run it . Its because they control more right now, when i wrote about it in the new yorker in 2009, it was more than a hundred nuclear weapons. And we worry about their weapons. We worry about their safety. Theres a huge muslim fundamentalist population in pakistan, and and in fact, the reason that the pakistanis had never said anything publicly about having them since 06, the isi found them in 06 which may or may not be correct. It could be early, i think it might be. The pakistanis can kept them secretly because the public would go nets. Their public loved go nuts. Their public loved bin laden. Many element 40 , 50 of the country saw him as a hero. So as long as they had bin laden, they could privately tell the alqaeda groups and the taliban groups in both pakistan and afghanistan weve got your guy. Pay more attention to us. Keep us informed. They had more control. That was their argument. The second argument they made or extra a nation for keeping them explanation for keeping him was the saudis paid them a lot of money. You know, hes a saudi, he came from an elegant, very wealthy family, bin laden family in saudi arabia. Big construction family. Not royal family, but they were mayor constructionallists and building, building, very wealthy. And the assumption we make and i make is that nobody wanted an american Interrogation Team to talk to him. You can watch this and other programs online at booktv. Org. Booktv brings you 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors every weekend. Here are some of our programs this weekend. Tonight at 8 p. M. Eastern, booktv talks with the new librarian of congress, carla hayden. Shes the first woman and africanamerican to hold the position. Then at 10, after words. New york times president and Ceo Mark Thompson looks at what he calls the erosion of public language in his book, enough said whats gone wrong with the language of politics, which examines the change in language from fdr and churchill to donald trump. Hes interviewed by arianna huffington, founder of the Huffington Post. Politics, parisly, has firstly, has changed in very substantial ways. And the kind of natural shape of politics based on class and very clear ideology has become more disrupted, and all over the western world you can feel the big, traditional Political Partieses, the mainstream parties under pressure. Sunday at 10 a. M. Eastern, booktv is live from the brooklyn book festival. The festival is the largest free literary event in new york new y featuring national and International Literary stars and emerging authors. Featured authors and topics include a discussion on economics with marc lamont hill, politics with sarah jaffe, fred kaplan on digital privacy, terrorism, ralph nader looks at Political Parties and elections, military and war with molly crabapple, inflation and ed young immigration, and ed young takes a look at viruses. Go to booktv. Org for the complete weekend schedule. Next on booktv, an insiders perspective of Silicon Valley and the tech world with facebook product manager antonio martinez