50 essential issues that affect our freedom you write that socalled moderate politicians compromise and seek bipartisanship are the most dangerous among the entire crew in washington. Compromise is too often synonymous with selling out by the sounds a lot better. Guest moderation always sounds good and people want it. We all want to feel moderate and fair reasonable people so it does sell in politics but theres a difference between moderation where you sacrifice something you believe and cooperating with somebody else who might have a disagreement where you come together and do a coalition. Coalition. If in the conventional definition of moderation is if i want to be a true free market person, what i have to do is give up a little bit of free market in order to get to incorporate for somebody else so i see giving up on nonaggression and foreignpolicy and also on the protection of Civil Liberties will have a smaller nsa. We will have a little bit of Government Intervention. We will have a little bit of wealth and people have the president fight little wars but not big worse. Thats what i think is a dangerous because you endorse the principle 100 . I think that is wrong so you find people where you can come together and build a coalition. I think that is where the answer will be found in washington. Host when you see whats going on right now the house, the senate the president then theyll want to Work Together but nothing seems to be getting done. Guest im not sure they can Work Together because as a matter of fact both parties agree on the big issues. They dont have much disagreement but they wont Work Together if they are looking for power. Power is a struggle. People want to take care of their friends so thats a very real issue. So i have a problem in washington right now that its more difficult to continue to spin. Conservatives like to spend on military industrial project that is probably totally unnecessary and the democrats want to spend on some Welfare Program conservatives dont like but when we were very wealthy and the debt wasnt outrageous and we didnt have the power that we have it where we see bankruptcies of cities towns and states it was endless. Ing, and this is the real problem. On the big issues, the parties come together, on going to war, let the president does it, on nsa, they both like nsa. At the irs, yes, they argue replying include about the irs, Neither Party is going to get rid of the irs like id like. But the very big issues, theyre very much together. When it comes to Civil Liberties like nsa, were the republicans any better than the democrats . No. They got along together on this. And this is why i think that they we wont at mitt that. Not only admit that not only financially bankrupt but the Foreign Policy is bankrupt. The American People are sick and tired of it and all you have to do is look at the last ten years. Afghanistan, results in iraq, and the mess were creating in ukraine, on and on. The American People know it and theyre saying, why dont we come home. And yet both parties want to keep all that intervention going. Host and back to liberty defined the ethos of washington is that the job of the elected politician is to serve the company that employs them and that company is government. Theyre told that they should serve the system or get another job. Very few new politicians can reject this logic. Guest ive helped a lot of individuals get into congress as being an incumbent you have a little ability to help. For the most part, most of them didnt do well after they got there some have done exceptionally well in recent years. But ive always said that i can tell within a week or so how theyre going to go, because the member arrives, he gave one story back at home, he got the support of conservative libertarians, limited government, and then all of a sudden they get in the atmosphere of, i have to get on this committee, and the big pressure is in washington, to get ahead, you have to go along, and you have to be a team player. Thats the ultimate argument they use. Are you going to be a team player . Sacrifice your principles, sacrifice everything you promised back at home because you have to be a team player. Besides you could get kicked off your committee, which has happened. You can get kicked off your committee, and also say well strike the money from your district deliberately, just line item veto your district, and has happened to me. So it is a vicious game they play in ford you order for you to toe the line, and most people cave to a large degree but theres a couple dozen right now doing a pretty good job of not jumping in and being part of the system. Host who are some . Guest im not going to name names because i might forget something, but certainly individualed have helped in the past. Wont be hard to find out. When theres a vote of 400 to 5, go look at the five votes. Dennis kucinich and i would be the only two individuals voting against some needless intervention, someplace where theyre getting ready to start another war. You can find out who the people are that will stick to it and wont kowtow and doing and has the leadership tells you to do. There was one time an individual was voting sort of with the rebels. We were trying to change things, and there would be four, five, six of us, and he was voting with us, and all of a sudden his voting pattern changed. I said, you used to vote with me on this. He said, im in leadership now. He was appointed to something, you know, like in a whip team or Something Like that. Im part of the leadership. So he becomes leaderless. He leads nothing. Becomes a follower by joining leadership. Did you ever get offered anything . No, i dont think so. Host was it uncomfortable to be you in the Republican Caucus . Guest actually, on a social, personal basis, i probably have deceived myself a little bit because i always thought it was fine because there was not the hostility. Nobody argued and fought. They left me alone. They knew they werent going to change my views. They didnt come and say do this, do this, do this, we need you. It was just, he has his mind made up. We know that. The lobbyists never bothered me either. So leader ship knew where i stood but they loved to have me when i was agreeing with them because theyve knew it was based on a firm principle, the constitution, and they were delighted to have me on their side under those circumstances. Host this is from your book in 1991, the ron paul funny book. And this is again, 1991. And heres what you write the Cashless Society is the irss dream. Total knowledge of and control over the finances of every single american. Guest were still moving in that direction. Not a lot of people use cash anymore. A lot of it is out of convenience, and people get sucked into this. And i have to admit that when i see it i used to worry about somebody in front of of the line that was going to use a credit card. Today you can pay with a credit card faster than you can pay with cash. They fumble around with the cash and getting change. You dont even have to sign. Under 50. So tempting. But it is also a record. Its a record that is kept, the government knows what happens, they know where you go, and also financial information. Government has this information and its connected to the big the companies that collect information. But theres a commercial value to this, too. But government i had debate probably back before that, in the 80s, with another person who firmly believed in it. His whole motivation was we can raise more money for the government. Of course thats not my goal. My goal in life is to have a government defend individual liberty, not to have more money. This is one reason why i have an argument with the supplyciders, who are pretty good on most issues and taxes and things. They argue low tax rate. Its fine. But their argument is if you lower the rate, business will pick up and the government gets more money. Thats fine. Lower the rates, business picks up, but reduce the taxes because we dont want to be the vehicle to raise more taxes. That shouldnt be the reason were in washington. It should be there to protect liberty and not to manage peoples lives and not to manage the economy. Host since you Left Congress last year, what resident doing . Guest a few things. I continue to write. I have a ron paul channel that i work on almost every day, send a report into the ron paul channel this morning. So, i have a home school program. Of course i get some help on that. Im not one thats going to design each individual program. Thats a ron paul curriculum. So, i work with that. And of Course Campaign for liberty is still very, very active. And thats a action group, and its the group that was able to mobilize a lot of individuals to get the fed bill passed in the house a couple times, and now the American People, 80 of the American People agree not with me on getting rid of the fed but they agree with me that the American People deserve to know who the fed is and who they bail out and who the special interests are. So im pretty active and still go to College Campuses, which i really like. I work with Young Americans for liberty, who have campus organizations, and spoke with the Young Americans for liberty last night, and i have to admit i enjoy that a whole lot. Host your most recent book is on school education. Want to read a little bit from that. Have you expand on it. In the leadership training program, i have been developing emphasize the following skills. First, the ability to think critically. Second, the willingness to act responsibly, taking full responsibility for your own actions. Third, leader needs to know the basics of communications, and this certainly involves writing, also involves public speaking. Fourth is a system of exercises that help a person develop real competence. Competence is important for step five. Selfconfidence, someone who is not selfconfident about what he believes in or his ability to improve his life in terms of what he believe in will have a difficult time persuading others. And sixth, integrity there can be no successful leadership if there is no followership and there will not be followership in the lin libertarian sense if the the followers do not trust the honest of the leader. Guest the last one is probably the most important because you dont accomplish anything else unless there is integrity. But the program is designed to be selfmotivating. You have to want to do it. The parents dont have to sit and do this. Theres a lot of selfeducation. They go at their own pace, encouraged to talk to other students, and theres a lot of writing to do. They have to write on a routine basis, and in the building of confidence, but overall, theres a lot of homeschool programs available. A lot of them are very, very good. Mine is probably unique and somewhat different because up front i say, what were really motivated to do is teach them about liberty, teach them about the freedom philosophy, and so if theres a homeschooling group over here that is religiously oriented, theres nothing wrong with that at all. Mine isnt that way. It teaches about religious history but i doesnt it isnt religiously oriented. And i want to preserve a society where everybody has freedom to enter into it so the different homeschooling groups would be legal. So its understanding free markets. Obviously on our economic courses youre not going to learn about socialist economics or why paper money is superior to gold money. So very up front about teaching a whole system of values. Host welcome to booktv on cspan2, 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors every weekend. This is our in depth program. Every month we invite one author to come only this month its former congressman and medical doctor, ron paul, threetime president ial candidate as well. Were going to put the numbers up on the screen. 2025853880. East and central time zone, want to participate. 5853881. Those in west and the central mountain, pacific time sewn zones and if you cant get through on the phone line you can tweet, booktv, and facebook, facebook. Com book tv. And on email, booktv chance organize organize. Well they can those in a minute heres doctor pauls books. 1987, freedom under siege. 1991, the ron paul money book. A Foreign Policy of freedom, peace, commerce, and honest friendship came out in 07. Pillars of prosperity, 08. The revolution, a manifesto, also came out in 08. End the fed, 2009liberty defined, 50 essential issues that affect our freedom came out in 2011, and his most recent, the School Revolution, new answer for our broken Education System. Just came out last year. Dr. Paul, when do you and how do you write . From your home in texas . Guest its pretty primitive. I dont know if i want to tell everybody. When i was in high school i could type very well. Then i got spoiled by my wife and others who did all my typing and i got sloppy, so im very slow on a computer. But im speeding up. So, most of this was done writing out long hand, dictating, and then correcting it. But im much better with a computer now. I can i have a program where i can dictate into the commuter and then do my corrections and i do more Creative Work at the computer. But a lot of it was very, very tedious. To write it out and have somebody type it up and then you keep editing that. So, i dont brag. I dont want to wont be taught that in my home schooling. Theyll know how to deep and use a computer much better than i ever did. I. Host an email from nathan kelly. Would you agree that the best form of government is none at all, or put another way, the only legitimate form of governance is individual governance . Guest well, im glad he put the last sentence on, because you always want government. Who should be the government . The Perfect World, if we were all perfect people, there would only be selfgovernment, and our responsibility would be to ourselves, and thats what my goal is, to always move in that direction. Today, to be a participant in the debate and say that, tomorrow, were going to get rid of every single government. Well, if one person does and it nobody else, thats not going to work. I think were moving to the age where governments are much less important and i think we should. I think that people are realizing that governments mess up. I think the 20th century was such a horrible century that were waking up to the fact that you cant trust government. You cant trust them to run the economy. You cant trust them to run the Monetary System. You cant trust them to run Foreign Policy. Its just a total disaster. So, i think the least amount of government is the best. I do not caw myself an anarchist but to have the goal of selfgovernment is a very good goal, and if you cant have that, then as close to home as possible, and i think thats a natural tendency to have individuals and family government, local community governments, and if you had a free society, we probably wouldnt have a lot more than that you wouldnt have to our founders intended that to be. But when they went wrote the constitution, and i think they planted some seeds there that have grown to the point where, if the constitution had worked perfectly, we wouldnt have this monster over here in washington. It wouldnt exist. But all of the regulations and details and taxations and abuse of the rules and the president writing laws and bashing the congress for not speeding up, ill write an executive order and all this. That wouldnt be true. That is the trend we have to reverse. Im optimistic to think we are changing the views of a new generation, the millenials are looking at this and theyre seeing what theyre inheriting. I think they see a mess, and i think theyre very open to the views of saying, yes, the biggest problem we have is way too much government, too much centralized government, and the more selfresponsibility and selfgovernment we have the better. Host so when you see what is going on, on the border in your home state of texas, whats the solution . Guest its all governmentcreated. You want to correct the government mistake. Its a mess. Under our constitution, our federal government has some responsibilities. But its a our borders are a result of the welfare state. Welfare at home teaches people not to work, then we have a need for workers, and people are being punished in Central America and mexico because of their bad Economic System, and theres jobs up here, go begging, and people come up, and then those who come, they get subsidized, Free Health Care and Free Education and so we subsidize illegal immigration. So its a real mess. If youd a a truly Libertarian Society, free market there would be a great need for labor and they wouldnt be seen as the culprits. Right now i think Illegal Immigrants are considered theyre the scapegoats. They cause all the problems. Thats one of the symptoms of the problems we have with government, but i think that obviously there is no easy solution it to. We should have better Border Control and we should be more generous in allowing more workers come here and more restrict enough giving out free stuff to people who come here illegally. And then getting them to vote. That part doesnt make any sense whatsoever. There was a day in my lifetime, when the work permits were easy. Theyd come and the workers would come in and go back home and take their money. Today, even when i was in congress not too many years ago, i had a lot of condition state opportunities, we need workers in the fields, on our shrimp boats, and they couldnt get americans to work there. So but this is all a consequence of bad management by government and argument for local management and selfgovernment. Host when and how did you develop your philosophy . Guest slowly and steadily. But i believe that all of us are born with an instinct for freedom. I think thats what little