Cox supports cspan as a Public Service along with their other Television Providers giving a front row seat to democracy. Open a icao sam altman whose Company Created chatgpt was my three Artificial Intelligence experts to testify on oversight of the swiftly developing technology. On the subcommittee hearing mr. Altman stated could cause significant harm to the world heres the rest of that hearing. [background noises] welcome to the hearing of the Privacy Technology and the lotom subcommittee. I think my partner in this effort senator hawley, Ranking Member and i particularly want to thank senator durbin, chairman of the Judiciary Committee. He will be speaking shortly. This hearing is on the oversight of Artificial Intelligence. The first in a series of hearings intended to write the rules of ai. Our goal is to demystify and hold accountable of new technologies to avoid some of the mistakes of the past. And now, for some introductory remarks. Too often we have seen what happens when Technology Outpaces regulation. The unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation of disinformation, and the deepening of societal inequalities. We have seen how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice. In how the lack of transparency can undermine public trust. This is not the future we want. If you are listening from home you might have thought that voice was mine. And the words from me. But in fact that voice was not mine. The words were not mine. Theas audio wasnt ai voice cloning software trained on my four speeches. The remarks were written by chatgpt when itgp was asked howi would open this hearing. And you heard just now j the results. I asked chatgpt why did you pick those themes in that content question and answered and im coding, blumenthal has a strong record in advocating for Consumer Protection and civil rights breeze been vocal about issues such as data privacy. And the potential for discrimination algorithmic decisionmaking. Therefore the statement emphasizes these aspects. Mr. Altman i appreciate chatgpts endorsed endorsement. This apparent reasoning is espretty impressive. I am sure we will look back at a decade and view chatgpt like we do the first celll phone for ths big clunky things we used to carry around. But we recognize we are on the verge really of a new era. The audio and my playing it may strike you as curious or humorous. But what reverberated in my mind was what if i had asked it and what if it had provided in endorsement of ukraine surrendering. Four of Vladimir Putins leadership. That would have been really frightening. The prospect is more than a little scary to use the word, mr. Altman you have used yourself. I think you have been very constructive and calling attention to the pitfalls and the promise and that is the reason we wanted you to bewe hee today. We thank you and our other witnesses for joiningjo us. For several months of the public has beend fascinated with gpt, dalle and other ai tools. The homework done by chatgpt the articles and op ed that it can write feel like novelties. But the underlying advancement of this era where than Just Research experiments. They are no longer fantasies of science fiction. They are real and present. The promises of curing cancer developing new understanding of physics and biology or modeling climate and weather, all very encouraging and hopeful. But we also know the potential harmsy. And we have seen them already. Weapon ice disinformation. Housing discrimination, harassment of wind and women and impersonation fraud. Voice cloning, deep fakes. These are the potential risks despite the other rewards. And for me perhaps the biggest nightmare is that looming new Industrial Revolution. The displacement of millions of workers. The loss of huge numbers of jobs. They need to prepare for this new Industrial Revolution and skill training. And a relocation that may be required. Already Industry Leaders are calling attention to those challenges. To quote chatgpt, this is not necessarily the future we want. We need to maximize the good over the bad. Congress has a choice now. We had the same choice but wait face social media. Wet failed to seize that moment the result is predators on the internet, toxic contents, exploiting children creating dangers for them and center blackbird and i and others like senator durbin on the Judiciary Committee are trying to deal with it, kids Online Safety act. But congress failed to meet the moment on social media. Now we have the obligation to do it on ai before the threat and the risk become real. Sensible safeguards are not in opposition to innovation. Accountabilityot is not a burde. Far from it. They are the foundation of how we can move ahead while protecting public trust. They are how we can lead the world in technology and science. But also in promoting our Democratic Values. Otherwise, in the absence of that trust i think we may well lose both. These are Sophisticated Technology but they are basic expectations common in our law. We can start with transparency. Ai companies ought to be able to test their system to disclose known risks and allow independent researcher access from we. Can have scorecards. To encourage competition based on safety and trustworthiness. Limitations on youth their risk of ai ise so extreme or brand that yes especially when it comes to commercial invasions of privacy. To affect peoples livelihood. And of course accountability and reliability. Ai companies and appliance cause harm they should be held liable. They should not repeat our past mistakes. For example, section 2 30 seen companies to think ahead and be responsible for the ramification of their Business Decisions can be the most powerful tool of all. Garbage in, garbage out. The principal skill applied got to be aware of the garbage. Whether it is going into these platforms are coming out ofe them. And the idea we develop in this hearing i think will provide a solid path forward. I look forward to discussing them with you today. And i will finish on this note, the ai industry does not have to wait for congress. I hope their ideas and feedback from this discussion and from the industry involuntary action such as we have seen lacking in many social media platforms. And the consequences have been huge. I am hoping we will elevate rather than have a race to the bottom. And i think these hearings will be an important part of this conversation. This one is only the first. Ranking member and i have agreed there should be more. We are going to invite other Industry Leaders but some have committed to comfort experts, academics, and the public we hope will participate. But s that i will turn to the Ranking Member senator hawley. Thank you very much mr. Chairman. Thank you to the witnesses for being here. I appreciate several of you had long journeys to make in order to be here. Tii appreciate you making the te for look forward to your testament. I want to thank center blumenthal for convening this eahearing on this topic. A year ago we could not of had thisgo hearing. The technology we are talking about is not versed into public consciousness. Just how rapidly this technology we are talking about today is changing, and evolving, and transforming our world right before our very eyes. I was talking to someone just last night a researcher in the field of psychiatry he was pointing out to me that chatgpt these large language of models is really like the extension of the internet in scale. At least, at least and potentially far far more significant than that. We could be looking at the most significant Technological Innovations in human history. I think my question is what kind of innovation is it going to be . Is it going to be like the Printing Press that diffused knowledge and power and learning widely across the landscape that empowered ordinary everyday individuals that lead to greater flourishing, that led to greater liberty . Is it going to be more like the atom bomb . Huge technological breakthrough. But the consequences were severe, terrible, continue to haunt us to this day. I do not of the answer to that question out think any of us in the room to the answer to that question i think the answer is not yet been n written. Enjoy certain extent it is up to us here and to us as the American People to write the answer. What kind of technology will this be . How will we use it to better our lives . How will we use it to actually harness the power of technological innovation for the good of the American People . For the liberty of the American People . Not for the power of the few. I was reminded of the psychologist and writer karl young who said the beginning of the last century that our ability forvo technological innovation for our capacity for technological revolution have far outpaced our ethical and moral ability to apply and harness the technology we develop. That was a century ago. The story ofth the 20th century helargely bore him out and i jut wonder what we will say as we look back at this moment about these new technologies . About degenerative ai these language models and the host of other ai capacities that are even right now under development. Not just in this country but in china, the countries of our adversaries in all around the world. The question posed is the question that faces us, will he strike that balance between technological innovation and ethical and moral responsibility . To humanity, to liberty, to the freedom of this country and hope for todays hearing will take us a step closer to that answer every think it mr. Chairman. Thank you, senator holly. Going to turn to the chairman of Judiciary Committee the Ranking Member senator graham if they have opening remarks as well be. Yes mr. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Sutter holly as well. Last week in this community full committee the senate Judiciary Committee we dealt withth an ise that it been waiting for attention from us two decades. That is what to do with the social media when it comes to children. We had four bills initially that were considered by this committee. What may be history in the making, we passed all four bills with unanimous protocols. Unanimous roll calls. I cannot remember another time that we have done that on an issue that important. It is an indication i think of the important position of this Kitty Committee at a National Debate that affects every Single Family affect our future. 1989 was a historic watershed year in america because that is when seinfeld arrived. We have a sitcom which was supposedly about little or nothing which turned out to be enduring. I like to watch it obviously. I always marvel at when they show the phones he used in 1989. I thinkey about those in comparison to wake kerri right in our pockets today. It is a dramaticc change. And i guess the question as i look at that, this change in phone technology weve witnessed simplify a profound change in america . Still unanswered. The very basic question we face is whether or not this issue of ai is a quantitative change in technology or a qualitative change . The suggestionsns ive heard frm experts in the field suggest it is qualitative. As ai fundamentally different . Is it a game changer . Is it so disruptive we needed treated differently than in other forms of innovation . That is the starting points. The second starting point is humbling o when you look at the record of congress in dealing with Innovation Technology and rapid change, we are not designed for that. In fact the senate was not created for that purpose. Just the opposite, slow things down. Take hyder look at it. Do not react to public sentiments. Make sure you were doing the rightnene thing. I am part of the positive potential of ai and it is enormous. We can go through list of the deployment of technology is stay tuned idea you can sketch out on a website for a website on a napkin can generate functioning code. Pharmaceutical companies can use the technology to identify new candidates to treat disease. The list goes on and on. Then of course the danger and it is profound as well. So i am glad this hearing is taking place. Think its important for allla f us to participate. Glad it is a bipartisanhe approach. We are going to have to scramble to keep up with the pace of innovation in terms of our government and public response to it but this is a great start. Thank you mr. German. Thank you, senator and is very much a bipartisan approach very deeply and broadly bipartisan and in that spirit im going to turn to my friend senator graham. [inaudible] thank you that was not written by ai for short. [laughter] let me introduce now the witnesses we are very grateful to you for being here. Sam altman is cofounder and ceo of openai. The ai research and Deployment Company behind chatgpt and dalle. Mr. Altman was president of the earlystage Startup Accelerator from 1914 im sorry from 2014, 2019 openai was founded in 2015. Christina montgomery is ibms Vice President and privacy and trust officer overseeing the companys Global Privacy Program pop policies compliance and strategies she also shares ibms aix ethics board a Multidisciplinary Team responsible for the governance of ai and emerging technology. Christina has served in various roles at ibm including corporate secretary to the companys board of directors. She is a Global Leader in ai ethics in government. And ms. Montgomery is also a member of the nine States Chamber of Commerce Ai Commission and the United States national ai advisorymi committe. Which was established in 2022 to advise the president on the National Ai Initiative office on a range of topics related to ai. Marcus is a leading voice in Artificial Intelligence but he is a scientist, bestselling author and entrepreneur founder of the robust ai geometric ai quae bird uber from not mistaken. Emeritus professor of psychology and neuroscience. At nyu. Mr. Marcus is well known for his challenges to contemporary ai anticipating many of the current limitations decades in advance. For his research in human languaget development and cognitive neuroscience. Thank you for being here. And as you may know are custom on the Judiciary Committee is to swear in our witnesses before they testify. I feel at all please rise and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear the testimony that you are going to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god . Thank you. Mr. Altman we are going to be with you if that is okay. Thank you freethinker chairman blumenthal. Ranking member holly, members of the Judiciary Committee, thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. It is really an honor to be here even more so in the moment than i expected. My name is sam altman and the chief executive officer ofi. Opn jet junkie wasnd on the [bleep] Artificial Intelligence has the potential to improve nearly every aspect of our thlives. Also create serious risks we have to Work Together to manage. We are here because people love this technology. It can be a Printing Press moment but we Work Together to make it so. Openais Unusual Company was set up that way because ai is unusual technology were governed by and are driven by the mission and charter. Which committed to working the benefits of ai to maximize the safety of the ai system. We are working to build tools that when they can help us make new discoveries and address humanitys Biggest Challenges like Climate Change curing cancer. Our current systems are not yet capable of doing these things. But its been immensely gratifying to watch many people around the world get so much of value from what the systems can already do today. We love seeing people use our tools to create, to learn, to be more productive. Or very optimistic they will beat fantastic jobs in the future current traps and get much better. We also see what developers are doing to improve life. For example beat my eyes is a new Multi Mobile Technology gp 40 habitually impaired individuals navigate their environment. We believe the benefits of the tools we have deployed so far, vastly outweigh the risk for destroying their safety is vital to our work for the mixed significant efforts to ensure safety is built into our systems at all levels. Before releasing any new system openai has extensive testing external experts for detailed reviews and independentge audit. Improve sleep models behavior influence robust safety and monitoring systems. Before we released our latest model we spent over six months conducting extensive evaluations, external red teaming and dangerous capability testing. We are proud of the progress we made. Gpt four is more likely to respond tr