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Escalation between around and is around the phone in the us. Welcome to the program a day after shooting down hundreds of missiles and drones launched against it by iran. Israel is waking up its response and says, the conflict is not over as World Leaders, coal for restrained to israels war cabinet mat with i. And im seeing any definite course of action around says its a sold was an act of self defense at the United Nations. Each side accuse the other of being the main threat to peace in the middle east. The crater left by iran aerial attack. Israels military says this desert air be sustained only minor damage, april and launched more than 300. 00 drones and missiles, israel and its allies shot down nearly all of them. Despite decades of intense enmity. This was their rons 1st direct attack on israel. While World Leaders call for calm and restrained, israels president says, options are open. This is like a reading wall, and its, i mean this is a declaration of whether or not, not because we are a strain and we cause we know the river cushions. And because we have the liberation without fathers, we are considering all options and im quite confident that we wouldnt take the necessary steps thats all necessary to protect and defend on people. We are not to all say cuz i think i would leave it that, that the us says it will support israels defense. But it will not take part in any military retaliation against iran. Its going to be up to these rarely some side uh what, what the next step is here. I would just say this president button since the beginning of this conflict has worked very hard to keep this from becoming a broader regional war. Israels war cabinet met without announcing any decision, as the world waits to see what comes next. Dw, corresponding to, i mean east of in jerusalem tells me the war cabinet has not given any care indication of what happens next. A well, not much of anything that answers the questions that are on the minds of most as rarely as right now and the world at large for that matter. There has been no publicized decision about how exactly is real is going to respond to this arabian response. Of course, this was a reprisal for the it was really attack the attack that they did not claim on the damascus consul. It in syria is where it run generals were killed. Thats important context for this, but israels trying to decide in a reprise and now and we didnt get any answers out of that cabinet meeting. What we did get was a statement from ben against that said, that is real, was going to retaliate, but it was going to do it on its own terms and on its own timeframe. And it was going to do it with an international coalition. Now whats interesting here is that a columnist of well respected columnist and is real said according to sources. If that meeting had been publicized, if it brought been broadcast on youtube, you would have had 4000000 is really is headed for vendor in airports and tel aviv to head out of the country. So thats gives you an idea of the, the kind of reprisals that were being debated there, but it seems for now cooler heads have prevailed. All right, but do we have any idea in what quote the retaliation look like then as well, it could be anything on a spectrum from a massive attack to knock out rainy in a Nuclear Weapons or butting nuclear facilities. It could also be something small. It could be another assassination, or an attack on bringing proxy is of course the far right here. And there is a very far right in the government is real and then give you a bank of your excuse me, from the far right party is, has been calling for israel to go berserk. So it gives you an idea of what he wants to see happen. But of course the war cabinet contains not only look, look crude, which is right wing. Thats nothing. Yeah. Whose party, but also centrist. Uh, so it seems that theres still a debate there and we dont know which side of the spectrum this reprisal is going to fall on over the said there will be something is these are as likely to heat cold for restraint from the us and others. It seems that they already have a 24 hour period that was closely watched as close now, and it seems that after phone call between netanyahu and us president joe biden, instead of retaliating immediately what is real did was call a you, you went security Conference Meeting to gather the International Community around, it seems that theres thinking International Legitimacy for whatever they do next. So that is a form of restraint and all the president is like hertzog also said we are acting restrained. We know what the consequences are, but of course when they say that they are going to retaliate, that puts a lot of people on high alert because the ron said if there is any retaliation for this retaliation, another words iran wanted it to be over. Now, if theres any kind of retaliation, then they would strike back even harder with more missiles, more ballistic missiles, more drones. And maybe even damage is real in a way that it hadnt been able to do. And this last attack, tens times on in the dont new corresponding to, i mean, east of injuries and force thanks. Leaders of the g 7 nations of condemned dorans attack on his room in the video meeting caused by president biden. They also urged around to exercise restraint. The g 7 says it will work to prevent an uncontrollable regional escalation and will seek an immediate and blasting cease fire in gaza. The un secretary general antonio guitar, she has warned the International Community against descending deeper into conflict. Speaking at an emergency session of the un security council, he said the region cannot afford a wider war. Its time to step back from the building. Its vital to avoid any action that could lead to measure the military confrontations on multiple fronts. In the middle east, miss celia is that already bedding the brands and bathing the highest price. And we have a share the responsibility to actively engage all parties concerned to prevent further the escalation. Ryan has describes the attack as measured and justified its envoy to the United Nations said well around does not seek a regional escalation. It will defend itself face, which such says comes. Stone says they stomachs, people, because you dont have the no choice, but to exist. Size is in head on the right to self defense on the International Law. Alex of a tank a is director of the around program at the middle east institute in washington, dc. I asked them earlier whether this attack was a strategic success for around yes, in a way i know yes in the sense that they came out after the 1st of april, stripe by israel under damascus. And said they would have to retaliate in kind meaning because they considered the Embassy Compound of damascus to be rainy and soil. They said they would have to strike israel on its soil and thats basically what they have tried to do here. Although as you have heard in the reports that about 99 percent of all those missed 1000 drones were intercepted. I do have to point out that yes, in terms of the run doing just for the 1st time, they have started a new chapter in this, in the t with israel. But i have to also as an analyst, to leave that the way you run carry this operation suggest to me that they didnt really want this to escalate any further. This is what theyre saying publicly, but their actions before and also showed that was the case. I mean, in any military operation, you dont give days of advice warning. You dont send us more slow moving drones that give your enemy plenty of time to prepare. So they wanted to make a point. They wanted to stripe israel, but they want to make sure the damage was such. Dizziness sincerely necessitate and is ready retaliation and kind of a ranch hold right now. Clearly is that this is the end of this route and they want to move on. Are you set it there, but the rainy and foreign minister headset, the attack was aimed only at israel and not at the u. S. So what does that tell us as well . It just tells us that United States and a pretty uh, you know, a bad position and that way because it has to mediate in a, in a conflict between an ally israel and then the opponent called around that doesnt really want to even talk to the United States directly, but nonetheless, both around in the United States. As, as, as bizarre as it sounds have one thing in common neither side wants to get into a regional conflict on both sides recognize the simple fact that iran is real conflict will not be limited to you, right. And israel and in the United States very well will be forced to enter that conflict, which is again, weve heard it over the weekend by administration. Clearly clean is not interested and its doing everything to try to prevent that. That with us attack, global attention has turned away from the war in gods. So hows this health is real . Do you think, you know, you could, you could say that that might turn out to be the case not, not in the short term weve heard is really officials talking about what is the right did to them this we can as providing israel with what it is really, leaders are calling strategic leverage and the building of a new International Regional college and a guest right now if you do that and if youre successful in doing that, then absolutely. This will be a win 44 as well in the long term. But its not going to help them in the short term, and theyre in their operations in gaza and the regional and International Law position they face and the way theyve carried themselves so far. So there you have it. Okay, but could around to tack on his route at reshape alliances or power at all in the region as im not into short term look, i think for example, let me give you one concrete example. If this rainy an attack is for example, seen by israel to re energize the moon, say in the gulf states, countries like saudi arabia, to look at normalizing relations with israel to sort of go back to where did what before the guys and prizes. Then i think is way too premature to assume that our company to opinion is still very much upset about whats going on in gaza. That doesnt mean the lights, the reading an approach to his role at all. In fact, weve seen our countries very silent in some cases in the case of jordan, actively participating against is it raining operation . This is actually a separate point, but a very fundamental point. I do wonder if you range and leaders now to around need to take a moment and think about what it is theyre seeking to do with israel. Because their energy towards israel is an ideological mission. There on your right is not an arab country. House thing doesnt need to be any radiated cause and the world doesnt want any right to take the leadership on this. All these are tough questions, the ringing leaders have to answer, particularly given that there were any Public Opinion is very much opposed to what a ride is doing in the region and its position on israel. All right, we dont have a whole lot of time, but 3 things you could, what do you expect to see happening next . I think weve heard so far from these really is clearly as the United States is telling them right now, you can call it a when you can call it a major spectacular military success and call it a day and move on. Well come back to you around, but we need to time to figure it out. Its not something we will do in days a weeks. Its a major project. And for that reason i think the americans will prevail. These ladies to not do this on their own. Really in a successful way, so they have to wait for that american preparedness to come to their aid and do whatever it is that needs to be done in the long term down the road. But it wont happen in the short term. Thanks alex alex with tank of from the middle east institute in washington dc. Heres a recap of our menus. Israel is considering is response to the wave of drones and miss, hows it launched against it by iran and says the conflict is not over. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has matches war cabinet ministers, are set to favor retaliating, but are divided over how and when to strike back. Real leaders have urged restraint on all sides and the u. S. Is refusing to join any is raining military retaliation against around around we launched more than 300. 00 missiles and drones and its 1st direct attack on israel. Nearly all were shop town by is route the u. S. U k. Jordan, israels president says, be rainy and attack amounts to a declaration of war. All right, you are up to days coming up next sports life needs a chilean, hes one of the worlds best free stop rover of writers uses for talent to inspire others. Thank you for that for me in the team. Take care the rules we say theyre about never giving up every weekend on d. W. Cost about why does that because like now im leaving the new