Transcripts For DW Choices 20240627 : vimarsana.com

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DW Choices June 27, 2024

Gaza war. One of the said, wait a sec. Eric states also helped to defend these ro when you ron attacked, to the surprise of many, that was what i the nation took up arms to defend israel. Can you imagine the domestic headache difficult . How does that come about . Are and erik countries, and israel and the lease. Then they fight plenty of wars. Well, yes, but sometimes even the greatest enemies become friends. So lets have a look at how they came to terms with each other. And what time us, tara, a tech, into war . And gaza, new for the unlikely friendship, the burning flags and slogans against israel has been coming on the streets of arab countries for decades. To understand whats going on today. We have to go way back from the get go palestinians and the arab states were against the creation of the state of israel as proposed in the you and partition plan. In 1947, all eric Member States of t u n. And a few others marked right here voted against the plan. After the whole coast, many more jewish people came to settle in palestine. The formation of israel was supposed to serve as a safe haven for jews when bengal re on declared is really independence. In 1948, 5 arab countries invaded it with the support of 2 more israel and one of the war. The result was to knock that arabic for a catastrophe in which some 700000 palestinians were expelled a force to fleet. Many went to arab states, such as jordan, lebanon, and syria. Until today, the Public Opinion supplied is the stumbling block for peace in the region. For people in senator the tied to x that is a how much am i county as a journalist at dw, she is covering middle east politics. The memory of the i have people, its like still stuck. The pictures of the scene is there like the evacuated from their country, from their homes, or like they are the cds everywhere in the countries. The war of 1948 was only the 1st of several Armed Conflicts between arab countries. And as far as the, the countries stopped by the policy of 3 knows no peace fields, no negotiations, and no recognition of israel as a state. So east, right. It wasnt even depicted on many official arab maps. Its all palestine here dealing with as far as the bus. Im thinking though, for eric, lead us today things look a bit different as we get to that. For most era people, the sentiment of ease of israel does not change over the yes, theres still a lot of criticism and hatred towards this row and sometimes also anti semitic attitudes. Like these protest, this calling for occurs upon the jews as a whole on the streets of williamsburg and none of us on this well pass on and how son is an expert in Foreign Policy in the gulf region, he used to work for the crown prince of parade as an advisor on Foreign Policy and national security. Lets use um was very, very great deal of sympathy, but boston and cos that sees, as well as the most significant threat as the most, as really the public tend to be number one. In poll after poll, most arabs a post recognizing is row and normalizing relations with it. And this and the mazda t is only getting bigger, with tens of thousands of palestinians killed and displaced in the gauze and war. But thats not the full picture of states often have the on domestic opinions, other calculations a play. So theyre also worried about security and geo politics and their relation to the United States and how can fox the rock and thats why today the map of the region is much more nuanced. These are the arab countries that have official relations with us ro, including the Palestinian Authority in the west bank. And these countries have been fordable, ties to a threat of, or at least at some sort of ties before the latest because of war. So how did we get from this to this . Why did some arab countries decides to shift best . Im so if lets start with 2 neighboring countries, egypt and jordan. They were the 1st to sign peace treaties with as ro, a spec to history. After the 1st erebus of 80 work egypt occupied the gaza strip. Jordan gain control over the westbank nature and next thing it did. 1967. Israel drove them out now occupied the west bank and gaza, the goal on heights and egypt sign. Ive been in so no sign. I wasnt parking for egypt to stay in control of the suicide canal. One of the wells most important traits, routes in that then also egypt was suffering economically and a lot of countries promising, especially the u. S. Promises set up to give him 8 and that he needed that because on the time he really wasnt a very bad situation. And egypt president on the west side thats got this out from the us for the price of making peace with this road suite c. Throughout this story, this is not the only time the wes coulton, eric country, and israel to one table. The camp david accords resulted in peace agreements between egypt and israel. Israel and left sign i. Egypt sent in the best of their to tell o v. After the 3 d, egypt was excluded from the i repeat 4. Yes. And egypt, president s adults plus as tests and data by fundamental this militant but even so camp davids set of process and motion. Eric this for 80 normalization brokered by the United States. Its rhodes most important ally. And that was also the case for the agreement with jordan. The kingdom had long held back from england deal with israel, a head of the potential of the court between israel independent opinions more than 1000000 of them, and then left in jordan. Many in refugee camps, but when even the Palestine Liberation Organization recognized as ro, jordans king felt the road was open for ending the state of war with s road, his hopes, economic fruits of trading with his ro and support from the u. S. There were peace treaties of the strict sense because those countries have actually been at war with as well today, both countries and forecast that israel drills offshore. And jordan depends on water imports from israel. But the countries are far from being closely intertwined. The now peace between the nations is at risk, especially for egypt, as is right as war in gaza. Its happening right at its doorstep. It proves a stress test for other eric countries to the in 2022 more countries. The United Arab Emirates and the rain joined the club by signing the abram accords. The roku in saddam followed suit. Again, changing the map and tempting some to high hopes because this piece will eventually expand to include other arab states. And ultimately, it can and the arab israeli conflict once and for all embassies opened direct flights to and from israeli were established in 2022, almost 1000000 passengers flew between the United Arab Emirates until of these trade increased between the 2 countries. So it cannot make benefits and the problem is to have the us as an ally, the deals seem to work for all parties involved and that sparks the interest of another big player seemed by many as the leader of the muslim world. In the last couple of years saw the industry any politicians tightened connections is really media is reporting the prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu has made a secret visit to saudi arabia. 10 minutes. This visited, also in public and not the agreement on the horizon again broke up by the us for the us. That would be a capstone to the brand of the court. For israel, another milestone towards the new middle east, but no palestinian territories on this map. And facility arabia crucial steps not only closer to israel, but to the us. Every day we get closer. It seems as for the 1st time, read one serious. Were going to see how it goes. The crown prince woman, since im on, doesnt play the game of normalization for free. She wants a binding Defense Agreement with the us access to u. S. Technology and the Civil Nuclear energy program. The some of these have essentially a list of things that they want bidding return for an organizing relation to it as well. But at the same time, to solve these have once or twice very clearly, the condition that any move to ones normalization would have to include the reversible progress or under a reversible pathway toward state city states. But then on october 7th, 2023. How much the text is written east wrote invaded god law. And this put everything on hold peace and the solution for the palestinian question seem out of reach. So is that its well not exactly. We need to talk about another play in the middle east contesting the ground. Iraq. Yeah, yeah. The, the leaders of the Islamic Republic have threatened forth decades to erase israel from the map of the region. Its mendezs israel with its drones, missiles, adults, nokia enrichment program. And fed gift eric countries to they believe that the ron wants to dominate the middle east as it supports im groups all over the region. This year brought some area of countries and israel, closer to the motto, the enemy of my enemy, as my friends ended, made them look for strong elyse such as the west, which has deployed more than 30000. 00 troops in the middle east. On april 13th, iran attacked each row to retail, vh one is for a strike on its embassy and syria. It launched more than 300 drones and missiles supported by its proxies in the region, but is really good help from several arab countries to bet night. Jordan, the emirates and saudi arabia also got involved and countries such as bahrain katara into rock were as well because you as far as us use that basis there. Some say it was the night when the end to rain in alliance took shape the exec data. Its about who did walked, remain unclear. It is certainly nothing that everybody does. Would like to talk about they are walking a tightrope on the one side they condemn the war in gaza, in fear of backlash at home by being seen to side with israel and against palestinians. But on the other side, they depend on israel biggest l i. C, u. S. Normalization. First and foremost beyond any potential a f, a gauge to be made in defense or Economic Cooperation with as well as 1st and foremost a political play that other countries do piece of the washington. Okay, to get this right. Normalization efforts between arab countries and israel have been going on for years mostly for economic and security reasons. And to police washington, israels biggest n i now after the october 7th attack on israel and either elsewhere and gaza. The big question is the eric countries will proceed with the pulse of normalization or not. Its now i think, politically, very difficult for many countries in the world to engage with as well. But at the same time, these countries that have to start distribution. So this will have not suspended that as a result of this war. Everyone has, you know, watching and waiting to see how this conflict will turn. Now no one is right. Is now talking about like finishing. Is it a or like not accepting is a no, theyre not is no, is the phone is spoken about how to deal with. Is it a have to solve the problem that for now, theres just hope that the house can be found towards a sustainable solution. For a god, the peace rose and for the region gets ready for an exciting auburn toys to look surprised. Hi, irish. And im ready to dive into the hands of children to you. 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