Which well talk about. But 1st, a growing number of voices are looking at the challenges theyre calling for, re think of a media priorities and how to achieve them. For example, former nato secretary general and long time paid advisor to ukrainian politicians address for rasmussen has proposed that ukraine join nato. But stripped of the territories occupied by russia. What do you think . Well, i think everybodys absolutely correct about the fact that the best security guarantee for you crate or for a european country golf today is piper shift tonight and strong armed forces . We have seconds, but we dont have a 1st and a tops absolutely clear that in order to, to win this war, we need to return our territories and our people, which uh now what is the good security guarantees for all of your territories, but well secure to go to, is it just to liberate of the territories . And then security guarantee as, as we know, its uh from uh, from your Atlantic Security is the membership uh, in nature. So there is no better security guarantee in your up to date for germans dodge werent more checks as they to membership and strong problem for so you can consider a resume since proposal should nato allies consider the proposal. I know we dont create a way of territories. So no, its not something that you would consider. You know, in the meantime, there is the so called kids security packed. These are, you know, intended bilateral security arrangements intended to bridge to full nato membership. D 7 countries have agreed to provide that or bilateral guarantees, but none has done so fully so far. How do you see the prospects for it celebrating the bilateral deals . Well, the bilateral negotiations are going on with, with a number of, of countries. The 1st round of such consultation between ukraine, germany also took place recently. So we are in the process and indeed the gift security compact for sees of those security guarantees on the way of ukraine tonight, while supporting ukraine with weapons with uh, financial uh, help and uh to make sure that we can win this work. But again, um you know, talking about the timing, one of the arguments of rep rasmussen is that time is really of the essence that you cant wait that this maybe needs to happen within the next year or so. And id like to highlight one of the reasons for that because you are facing the challenge of shaky support on the political front, both in the you and the United States. Lets begin 1st, you know, here in the you where you are serving as an investor. Not all and you countries are back in ukraine anymore. Lets have a look. Slovakia, once one of your biggest supporters will stop its military aid hungry blocking new e u funding for the war or waiting of course to see the make up of what the governments in the netherlands will be. And what they will do call concerning when you look at the picture in the you is all of this for you. And do you worry that other countries might break away . Well look when i as diplomats look at what our guys and girls are delivering at the front line, i think its absolutely possible for us diplomats to deal with the respective governments which might be skeptical and winning the hearts of flights of people and full additions. As well my job here in germany and to jump with my colleagues overseas or, and hungry and, and in slovakia i think that europe both today realizes its, its power in port and its role in the international relations. Weve been talking today a lot about leadership here of this, this for this is something which i think you ukrainians for fighting this war against the powerful russian army are expecting from leading European Countries, for example, from german. Well, one thing is the expectation, the other is, was actually getting delivered. So lets hop across the pond to the United States because us support is also at a critical juncture. Biden and defense. Secretary often have announced more weapons, but getting a packages through congress has been blocked. And its been said by the white house that more than 90 percent of the approved military funding for ukraine has been spent. How risky are these delays in getting additional funding approved for ukraine . And is there the risk that you can start to feel this on the battlefields . Well, on one hand, so im 50 on investment to germany and not dealing with the United States and cannot commend that in, in details. But on the other hand, type i absolutely agree with you. If you just think of sex and that every day is spent in this war means those given hundreds of ukrainian soldiers dying that every day counts. And this assault might be a message to all the Decision Makers saying in terms not of the territories, but of people, of military and civilians on the russian of a patient dying every day. And with those sticks being so high again to bring it back to the funding and the political support. You know, your top, your politicians have been saying how vital the support is from your western partners. What happens if donald trump, for, you know, a politician who shares his police, wins the white house next november . Because theres within his party, the republicans of local Group Opposed to further aid to ukraine. Its a real issue. Its a potential problem for you, isnt it . Because i mean, trump has demonstrated an affinity, for example, in russia, and she hasnt always cited with your country has a, as well its, its about American People to the sides who will be governing the what about square decision . What if the my decision . What if they decide on him or somebody whos like, well, im, im, im hopefully not the best way to the, uh, what was that phase . How are you, great, and how are you met repairing for that problem . I know what, what the americans value was. This is freedom and democracy. This is, these are core American Values by the way, also core european values. And i do hope that the brought the support in the United States for this fight for democracy and freedom uh will also reflect in the results of, of the election. How high do you see the risk that your partners cant keep up . The pace to meet ukraines needs well, from what i heard from my german colleagues and from what i hear from my fellow colleagues diplomats and the best are sold ukraine to different countries. The support will not be diminished. And i got a direct calls from my colleagues from the ministry of defense minister for the 1st of, of germany saying guys, we will continue support you and look at the figures in the budget of the administrative defense of germany for the next year, for support. You of you, frank, its dumb. And this is the right way to, to approach. Thanks. I, i, we, we all not only our parts his were old face, this problems of an issue, enough air Defense Systems because i can count all those systems. And uh, just imagine where if i were uh, kind of chief of stuff where can i place those 5 or 6 uh, or Defense System which we got, im from germany, workplace. Some, some safety of the part of the flood, flood cancer to, to protect critical infrastructure, which has been daily show by russians or protect our troops. This is why our coal is to, to give us the weapons to defend, defend cities, and the trips, and to the defense and for advancing. We need a debt, chris, we need a metal tags and infantry fights. We cups and of course, are to learn. This is the word which combines features of the world one with for delivery, bar artist and world 3. With inventive use of drones and official intelligence, weve been hearing from the ukranian administration that one of the biggest priorities has been pushing to increase your own production of weapons and equipment. Tell us why is this so important and how quickly can you do it . In a meeting full way to really make a difference. Well, because we, we, we need to reconsider the way the weapon is being produced. For example, the, the usual delivery of a air Defense System will be supported by the number of rockets which will be develop delivered to the, to the client. So the number of focus which has been delivered in peaceful times we use within one or 2 days. That means that if we get the patriot system for iris team system types of for it must be supplied by a bigger number of rockets. The same is with the tanks and im on hold with her how many shells are being sheltered by a hold with her in germany, in peaceful times as we do, its kind of hundreds a day. And this is a different approach to Production System and to the colors. And this is why we say an invite the producers of weapon systems from germany, and from all over all over the world to start the r n d and production localization in ukraine. This is the place where the weapon is needed. So then give us some concrete examples of the types of contracts. Indeed that you are hoping to attract and sign, because youre pushing these joint ventures with companies from around the globe to manufacturing ukraine. As youve highlighted, theres a big industry conference in washington next week. Would you want to come out of that just briefly . Well i, i have seen a list of companies which are be invited from, from what i understand. Theres a lot of hopes riding on this. The parking lot, theres a lot of hopes writing on this particular conference though, isnt there . Well, we had a 1st the def, Defense Industry for them in ukraine. Back in september, the ministry of Strategic Industries was a part of your pregnant delegation back in october. Here in berlin, meeting main German Companies and we, we cant exclude that such a buy. Lets row for them with ukranian and German Defense companies will be held later this year or next years. But the 1st company, i think, the 1st company, which will open up a repair hub, would be a german cup. Why . Right . Why would these Companies Want to do business in ukraine . Because the challenge is, theres some major challenges ramping up Domestic Production while were is raging investors in particular. And this has been highlighted as the biggest one. Theyre concerned about and unreliable legal system and corruption. These of course, are not problems that are easily solved. And the predict, the more so when you, when you talk about the, about this with the woodrum business, they 1st uh the think about security security of problems is security of people. Uh and uh, well your finance minister has how did the, the corruption and the legal system is what he, he is hearing of some of the biggest things among these low concerns of this companys been times before. Uh there is no a tolerance, 0 tolerance in our population towards corruption. Just imagine every morning ukrainians wake up a look at the reports about the air Defense System down in russian rockets and, and drones, and a just a sending the money to the force of the crate. How those people would accept a science of corruption in the law and in the government sold, eradicate and corruption. And we have established in the last 6 years of highly effective system of counter and corruption, which is by the way, was highly evaluated by the European Union in terms of preparing ukraine to grant us the status of the country to start. And it goes each, so then tell me, when we look at the Defense Industry, you have a new defense minister as of september of his predecessor, he made some big promises because when were talking about in particular corruption, we have to look at that ministry there. Have been allegations of mismanage military contracts. Its really put a stain on the ministry. The former minister who is not personally implicated, he said, when he left office, that he was confident, the ministry would return prepayments to suppliers that have gone missing. Were talking about about 980000000. 00 and weapons contracts that missed their delivery dates at one point this year. Some prepayments for weapons and simply vanishing into overseas accounts of weapons dealers. Can you, can you really guarantee that all of that will be, will, will be sorted . Well i, i, i hear it for, for the 1st time about overseas, the accounts. And once again, those are according to reports made to parliament. And again, our government and this minister changed the team and introduced and you may come as a to make sure there is no possibility of for a corruption and look at the interest of the Defense Companies to step into the business they centrally. Not talking to us about any legal trans or problems or obligations about corruption. They see here no challenges, but opportunities to help us create a future un motor Ukrainian Armed force. And this is what we need and many of European Countries that need that to im going to move on now because you know, besides what we have been discussing with regard to corruption, especially in the defense ministry. There are also a lot of public disagreements that have been gathering attention recently in particular between your president s and your commander in chief general. But larry physician e solution, you made this comment saying that the war is that a stalemate unless you have some sort of massive technological leap to break the deadlock. So lets get very publicly has refuted this such a public display of disagreement between your top general and the president has raised eyebrows including them on your partners in the west. Are there cracks and unity at the top . Oh no. You know, i just, uh, jumped in uh to uh, to help uh to communicate about your pain for my administrative defense. But i must lift issue i would jump in for uh, for everybody uh from, from my government. Uh, of course, uh, its a, its a good sign of diplomacy to always speak with, with one voice. This is the most effective, effective way of communication. But still, this is also a kind of a democracy. You know, we, weve been dealing with a huge problem of trying to persuade people to manage expectation on the credit encounter offensive. So it was kind of big back in march in may and june this year. So we expect ukraine now to, to break through. But then if you come back and were going to get those that were going to get to that. But i want to talk about the politics for a 2nd here in the leadership because you know, the landscape further to that appeared to publicly swipe and general solution e reminding of the hierarchy and warning that the countrys military leadership should not be entering politics. So theres need, when we look at him as a figure hes a career military officer, is usually popular. He is seen potentially as a threat to zalinski. If you were to ever choose to enter politics. Do you think so . Lensky scared of that is of its really a play here. Well, this president zaleski is a man who no one of the side. I dont need the right. I need to be an issue back at the beginning of the war. And so if you, if you think ukrainians can be scared, by some way of uh, disagreements which uh came to to pablo. You know, we, we are not scared by russian rockets and trash and trips and of incidents of, of key if there is nothing that can scare you pregnant and you know this, this is the reality of, of today. Sometimes i think were, were, were working 25 hours a day and the president s lensky and generals illusion, e. C, charter, i. So thats a several times a day. Lets just quickly come back to the general solution is comment the substance of it, which was ukraine and rush hour to sell me. Do you agree or disagree . Uh, we do not see a major advances of fuel crane and trips and what generals illusion. It also meant that you agree that we have no major advances well defined, major events. Yes. We in comparison with what we achieved, right . That sounds like a cell. Me. Well, its, its my, this tell me its for, for the moments. Uh, but its not 861. The president s office though says that that and im paraphrasing here. Um, this is one of their swipe acts that, that essentially plays into the enemys hands, a discussion place and to the gentlemans hands, while quite hard. Many such lazy woods at a stalemate, but the stalemate uh is uh not because we have discussions. The settlement is because were not armed. No, the stalemate might be worth of insufficient. The defense might be because we got from, from our partners a bit more than 50 tanks or, or we have 3 irish t, a systems from germany, which is maximum germany could deliver within those 2 years. But as i always say, just plays those 3 systems with, with the rage for 40 kilometers on the territory of 600000 square kilometers and you crate. This is the reality. So, you know, one of the things that has been raised when youre, when youre talking about that and whats going on on the battlefield is that ultimately you need more man power as well. Its not just the supplies that are coming in from your western partners and the ones that you were trying to generate on your own. Youve had to resort to a draft. The war has been pro longs. Its been said there are limited opportunities for rotation of soldiers on the line of contacts. There are reports, some, some even evading the draft. We understand that lensky is going to get a list of reforms this week about what might be done to improve mobilization. And im just wondering in your personal opinion, um, how can you counter more fatigue and motivate your citizens more for what might be a long war as well in order to understand this, if you need to, to trial into crane. So any time im, im back home or i corresponding with my, with my friends the phone line, would you crate new soldiers or be trained here in germany or with with my pardons . There is no such thing as a fatigue ukraine would sometime to tom, i see this fatigue here in germany. But this is not a fatigue from the war, but rather from the media reports about the war. You know, in times where, when, when you are protecting your, your home and your family, you kind of just so full back and save its, its too much for me. There is so much at stake for your brain. Its our democracy. Its, its our freedom. Its our future, this is what we are fighting for your up against the country that has 3 times your population. And time doesnt really seem to be on your side. And im just wondering, you know, when you talk to the, the top politicians of your country, you always hear that the goal is to recapture all of ukrainian territory. And that seems pretty steadfast. And im wondering just how personal that goal is for you. And whether or not you still think its realistic, given all of the challenges that weve been highlighting the soon as you start thinking not to about territories, but about people you realize that you need to go to go forward. Its about maintenance and maintenance of ukrainians on the occupied territories, who waits for your crating and soul show smoking their door and say youre free. We are here and uh, havent you create insights uh on, on the occupied territories. Its about people we are fighting for, and this is why we need to liberate those. Were in russian 15. 50 since 2014 in crime. Yes. Thats been done. Boss. And in the cafeteria to a freshman since february 2022 in the seldom ukraine. There are some that are saying that the prospects of you winning back all of your territory appear to be dwindling. And that maybe ukraine should shift the focus. I just like to read you a quote and this is from so the breedlove retired Us Air Force General and former nato commander. He says, the following, this war will and exactly how western policy makers wanted to. And the implication there is that it really hinges on the west support is success in some ways out of your hands. Do you see that maybe in the next year to next 2 years depending on what the mood is your your health might be forced. Um, i think what, what we are a blessing in many countries is the reading of the right and as to to lead the word leadership. I heard today 100 times and this is exactly what we need leadership to make right things. And to help us to, to, to win this war and to fight the freedom and the peace back to your best. Ok, thank you so much for joining us on conflicts on thank you. The african styles is undergraduate as women. So what i see is that sales, this is since the 2nd designers are conquering the international assessment. One of the world needs of the world needs advocacy give all these Young Designers a chance because future sound loans and give them a chance. In 15 minutes on the w, the music from the new home and to the Young Musicians a touring through the especially since a rita this is an important active resist. 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