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And if you look into how nice the 3 dots july, 29th on dw, the send this to uh, runs and internet and Technology Company in rwanda. Today, the 32 year old from friends is on her way to an appointment with her team. Were going to case it to you please. She employs around 20 people at her start up. When she 1st traveled to bewanda in 2018, she knew very little about the country. But she was very impressed by the cleanliness of it. The streets all drained though. Yeah. They sometimes for fun, i look for litter on the streets, dont participate, but i never find any. Its so clean, not a single piece of practice, the spotless streets, perfectly manicured, green spaces, and inviting parks. Cigale has repeatedly been named the cleanest city in africa by the united nations. Everywhere you look, the women and men are busy keeping the city clean, removing weeds, and even cleaning the roof of the shopping mall. Its a deliberate campaign to attract for an investment the defective. While the who pop of the clean, the streets are assigned to the discipline where you can disappear. As i said, thats important to me because im looking to recruit people here is of lucky discipline as capital. And then it was definitely a factor in choosing lawanda, schwab all palm one. This discipline has had an impressive effect on one does development. The country has come a long way. Lawanda is in Central Africa in the great lakes region. A country that has seen one of the coolest genocides in history. In 1994 who to estimate extremist mass occurred the tootsie minority. The massacre lasted for months and claims nearly 800000 lives. The country was left devastated. 3 decades later, this new rolanda is almost unrecognizable with Economic Growth of over 10 percent in 2021. Its made an extraordinary recovery. Today its one of the cleanest and safest countries in africa. Or not what were in the hollywood of keegan. Rwanda has not only become an attractive destination for entrepreneurs, but also tourist with Boutique Luxury Hotels breathtaking landscapes and mountain gorillas. Behind this impressive revival is paul cummings, president of rwanda and former rebel leader. In just a few years. He managed to bring his people back together and rebuild the country. Now he wants to put rwanda on the world stage. But at what cost . Kick ami was re elected for the 3rd time in 2017 with over 98 percent of the vote. He faced as little opposition and independent journalists who dare to speak out risk arrest t i you any surprising when our research is met with constant scrutiny from authorities . You ask a lot of questions. Were officers when we uncovered did always fit the image of an economic miracle. Just people in these to keep the streets clean and crime to a minimum. The government resorts to arbitrary arrests and remote Rehabilitation Centers that resemble prisons up to 4000 men in uniform with cramped together on this island. The new wanda is known as the land of a 1000 hills with lush and unspoiled nature. Its volcanic mountains are home to a very rare species of animal. Busy the mountain gorilla. Its only found in 3 countries in the world. Uganda, democratic republic of congo, and rwanda. Dr. Noel is one of their guardian angels. These animals are endangered and needs special protection. Or did they go that way . Theyre not far ahead or where the group of truck has went ahead have found the group. But as you can see, we were going to use this tray. But the group had to move the this direction. Its no easy task. The guerrillas are constantly on the move. Well dumped in a well gets into position. The animals are already moving on but after more than an hour of tracking seriously. Oh yes, theres one thing ive been trying to say. It says shes got it. Its okay. We just to give us the best but dont be scared of female gorilla hes coming to view. Doctor noel can begin his routine checkup and i can see that during the observation, even the smallest injuries and unusual behaviors are noted for them that if you missed on information, you might know it when its too late to help and follows every single life calling. So we have to make sure that we detect Health Program because before it becomes a was for this particular type of animal conservation came to the 4 in the 1980s. Thanks to american primatologist, diane fuzzy back then there were only 300 animals. Their numbers have since tripled, 2 days figure of around 1000. 00 living in the wild in family groups. Within an hour, he spots a dozen guerrillas, as there are no problems to report. All the animals seem to be doing fine. The guerrillas, our National Treasures in rwanda, a country with hardly any raw materials. People here traditionally have lived exclusively from agriculture. But theres big potential for tourism. Housekeeping. As evidenced by new luxury, hotels like this one. In 2019, around 2000000 visitors came to bewanda 4 times the number 10 years ago. But in the future, the government wants to focus more on outside investors to develop the country. Everything is being done to attract them and to present rwanda in a new light. When entrepreneur Savannah Swan comes to the capital t got a, she spends her days in the heart of the Business District on the 14th floor of this skyscraper. Report for the 1st item on the agenda is to expand the Fiber Optic Network to nadia. Together with a business partner, selena has invested 2000000. 00 euros for a company, offers low cost internet connections. The French Companies entrepreneur chose rwanda. Not because she loves the country, but because of ford has made it very attractive for investors like her. A phone call is all it takes to get an appointment at the ministry of finance. So again, welcome. Thank you. Thank you. So from your last visit, we had some good news. Seems to start typing away from android investors. Thats really the providing you with funding. We also have a new framework. I received a new full benefits of the profits that youd be generating out of this investment on the roads. Absolutely. Covers. Yeah. The i know, i know thats why im here in ban. Of course, this is good news here. Rwanda is the country that is constantly evolving simple function, always a pleasure to meet with mr. Moriello. Mr. Moreno. There are Tax Exemptions for startups, Tourism Energy and health care. Not a month goes by without a new boost for the economy. Thats why Foreign Companies invested almost 2500000000 euros here in 2019. We are transforming rundown now as a business and Financial Hub for the continent. Thats pretty object. If thats encouraging force, elena, who profits from the Business Environment and political stability here . Could you give nothing to new kevin, one of the we have to weigh up the risks carefully because were investing our own capital e leave today. Were one that has a stable security situation and so the risk or lower. Yeah, hes got some local stuff for me. Seeing military presence in the streets, its reassuring to know even more. Its a place to actively seeks to provide security faster. Its amazing progress for a country that has experienced so much violence and instability times are changing fast. Demonstrated by the International Hotel chains that have set up here over the last 5 years. A selena stays at this American Hotel every month. Just you and your advocate. I have 2 big suitcases and one small veggies. Okay. You know, what is your best bet . Im staying for a week. I know it seems like a lot of stuff, but i live in the flesh and capital b o 2 men factors. Are you going to come to the the, the, the master tonight . The, this is it. This is the dresser where tonight with this little bag, perfect. Its 6 30 pm and selina has a meeting at a fancy restaurant in the capital. The topic of conversation tonight will the business and tax issues with the texas. We need to fix the double tax problem. Why sales are you looking at . Yes, we talked about it yesterday and everything is fine. I mean, but there needs to be an agreement. This informal meeting is like a club for business women in lawanda, its not uncommon to see women in top positions. For example, at the state airline, the rewinding central bank and and over half the posts in government and parliament. I work for an institution which gives me a certain status. I dont feel like im the only woman for that. Im disadvantage compared to my male colleagues from one. Its very different to my experience in france. Welcome in the similar to see. I wouldnt have had these opportunities in any other country as the young woman in the Telecom Company at the city come supper room in the early 2, thousands the constitution introduced quote, us 30 percent of parliament positions had to be held by women and men. The meeting is interrupted, as the 1st course is served, the food looks too good, not to photograph the restaurant theyve chosen is one of the hottest in town. And i didnt tell us the bread is served with tomato sort bay not fit, and the chips are made from potato and peanuts. These is usually magnificent compliments to the chef culinary feats that would arrive on the top restaurants in europe. This remarkable restaurant is the work of 29 year old jew v. My longer for the photoshop i go with pleasure. I come to the young chef left everything behind in friends to move to the one to an open his 1st restaurant to understand more about why he likes selena chose rwanda. We visit his kitchen in the morning before they can get started, the shift needs to make a rather unusual purchase. It exceed the electricity. And if i need to get some electricity, do you have to buy or stay . In rwanda, most things can be done by smartphone. Go on zillow, go sale with a simple app, he can top up his electricity credit or pause the meter. Less of there, its green documents. Now i have electricity because you didnt want to please. Its pretty much started my company on my call and give me the pricing for 45 minutes. I received a message that i was an entrepreneur and a welcome to rolanda, etc. Thats it. After 2 weeks, my already had my 2 year visa plus and then this and then applies a movie that. So its hard to imagine that less than 30 years ago, this country was the scene of one of the bloodiest genocides in history. But it has since rebounded and surprise the International Community with its rapid transformation. President county has steered his countrys development systematically, but at times with an iron fist. Modernization has involved demolishing various neighborhoods more than 7000. 00 houses or to be seized. The 51 year old was stuff is one of them was effected. You know, i used to park there and walk home. I give them 40 until 2 years ago he lives with his family in this poor neighborhood, near the bus station. This is the 1st time hes been back. 108. 0, how do you, who are that corn is growling. That was my land. A little quick dot new out of the wall of my house. It went up to there. Not how would most of us as an actor, he had a 50 square meter house, built with 3 rooms, a kitchen and a living room. To go to the toilet fort outside like that building there. One day he was forced by the authorities to leave. As compensation though, residents are given new housing upon request allocated by the state. Dewitt and objected in his account, i accepted the offer, halfling is cool. I told myself i get a better house and a nice our neighborhood. So right now, the state on this land, the walls of the box here, are being used to grow corn and move around. Lets see, i knew where we can get them. But maybe one day there will be, of course, here. And it was like over there by sort them, by the quotations of love, the one that has been carrying out expropriation since 2005, the state is legally obliged to pay compensation to the re settled families. Uh huh. This is where i live when they call it a modern bill. It did say that it is oh, most of us now lives 5 kilometers from his old house on one of the hills. If keep going, a big change. The buildings resembled modern social housing, with gardens in green space, is around 300 resettled families from various districts of the cities live in the complex. The most of the apartment has 2 bedrooms and a living room plus a bathroom with a toilet mazda address. We have Running Water in the shower. In the old house, there was water, but no shower. Oh yeah. We used to wash and a plastic tub. Ill call to get them. And most of the Living Standards have greatly improved thanks to this Government Property with Running Water and a furnace to kitchen. But modern living comes at a cost. This living space is smaller than his previous one. And the children now have to share one room, 3 of them sleeping in one bunk bed. The main issues with the bread this yeah. So i had my own room and this one has to help me even the brother had his room. That was big. Yeah. Im more comfortable like this one. Not like im, i know, got a new, improved privacy, but its okay. So close living quarters arent for everyone. Especially when the compensation doesnt make up for the loss. Some residents are putting up a fight in the familys own neighborhood. This woman has decided to stay well call her b, i trees. But she wishes to remain anonymous, to avoid problems with these dohertys. She runs a mobile business and it took her 4 years to build her house, leaving is out of the question. Yeah, i worked hard to build this house and i would need to uh, to either was id rather stay here then move in to one of the new apartment is i say over my house is bigger than what the government is offering me to be a tree says the governments offer would make her worse off, especially because this house earns her money. I dont know it because we rent out a room here. And one here, no for all for the single bar 2. If i took the offer, i dont really have space for my family. Then how would i may the school fees for my children . I can get by with the income from render how those are in the oklahoma. The government only provides homes with one or 2 bedrooms and a living room for those that you heard on saturday to with is so cool. With the to spare rooms, she can earn about 20 years extra each month. And although shes making ends meet right now, she knows the situation could soon change the mark painted on her house reminds her of that every day. The government marks crosses on the houses they plan to demolish dollars. You know how to cool. I worry because i dont know whats coming goes and i put my faith in god and nicholas alone against the government. We at least barely stand the chance. But there is another neighborhood where residents have banned it to gather to take legal action. Our guide here is a local journalist who warns us not to meet them. Were filming with a hidden camera. The westbrook is thats, i dont think its a good idea. So it is, could the Government Official has expressly forbidden it and i might get into trouble for them in a mind. Whats the down for bad . Talking to the media about it. You told him our plans ways of jesus. Yes. They know i come here just because of the way it is. I tell them about our Program Every day. The programs are people because of this is how we learn a daily reports that our guide rides for the authorities, about our filming and research. We tried to contact the neighborhood residents, but they all refused to talk to us out of fear of reprisals. The governments message seems to be getting through loud and clear throughout our filming were confronted with the harsh reality of a country that is safe, but highly monitored. Police are everywhere in the city. As soon as we start filming without our guide, an officer approaches us. The, the government seems overly concerned about its reputation as though its trying to hide the misery that it cant eliminate. In 2016, around 56 percent of the population. Were still living below the poverty line. According to the world bank. Its 6 30 am as residents start to go about their day and most of the children are getting ready for school. A small head emerges from below the sidewalk. No one really seems to pay much attention, but this is the head of a child. 2 boys have found a place to shelter in the drain every morning they leave as inconspicuously as possible. The as we approach the children were confronted by a man and a woman the whats going on. I dont know where you from, from, from what youre doing and rolanda you worked for an organization. Why you were here yesterday evening. They are very suspicious of us and tell us theyd already been watching us. You ask a lot of questions, were officers, youve spent a lot of time. Ive seen you before. This is the 3rd time they try to find out what wed filmed and what we know. Street kids seemed to be a touchy subject. Their numbers had apparently gone up recently, especially because of the corona virus pandemic. Children left to fend for themselves on the streets are now a common sight at nightfall. They have to hide from the police. Officers are everywhere, and theyre supported by neighborhood militias. They target street kids and petty criminals, anyone age, 18 or older, is sent to a Rehabilitation Center. One is located on route one does western border and make cable. One of Central Africas biggest lakes. Its 200 kilometers from the capital on e one, while island after several weeks of those, she ation, we received a permit to film there from the ministry of interior. This Remote Island is about 20 kilometers from the coast. The crossing takes almost an hour but after a few minutes, the boat suddenly stops. The engine wont start again. Do i have to go to skipper tells us that the engine has been blocked by one of the plastic bags that end up in the lake from the democratic republic of congo. Few fish live in the 2700 square kilometer like its very polluted. And in the depths, there are high concentrations of methane and explosive gas that make swimming here dangerous. You can swim for long in the lake because of the gas. Its life threatening to public not that its especially inviting today. After a fear storm, you wont want island appears in the distance. Its right on the border with the waters of neighboring democratic republic of congo. The area is under strict military control. The 140. 00 Hector Island looks like a small paradise, but it houses a government built Rehabilitation Center. That actually seems more like a prison camp. To want to the each morning begins with the Rwanda National anthem. Done by 1600 young men from across the country who had been arrested by the police mule. These men between 18 and 39 years old, had been here for 3 weeks and then at the 3rd regiment, you are responsible for the cleanliness of the whole facility. To con, yeah, because its so cool, which it was simple. This was the, those brought here are subject to a Rehabilitation Program lasting one year. Most of them are drug addicts, some or former street children. The government has placed them here to cure them of their apparently deviant behavior. The dd is 24 years old and from gigante, he was arrested for smoking cannabis and send 2 condo transit center. We have the full mines this when they, when they came here. I didnt know they come didnt catch you and they, they brought, they brought the buses, the buses, they brought the buses to, to fix. I see. But i didnt know that we come here. There was no trial, no lawyer, and no official verdict. His arrest, like so many others with arbitrary po, connected also do then there are no judges because of your sentenced by a judge. You go to prison for more and this isnt the prison. Its a Rehabilitation Center and he says, but a Police Officer for the past few years. So what they can move freely here for this time and they cant leave when they want because theyd risk going back on the street, the other we screw up the new bed, so its not a prison, but theyre not allowed to come and go to possibly you know its a psycho social Rehabilitation Center and its also people see in the practices here have been condemned many times by Human Rights Watch for a year. They will take part in a prescribed program of exercises that are repeated daily. Automotive, i dont know where you are here because you have disregarded the values of Rwandan Society and took a job. What to do with your actions. You have violated the dignity of your family is and society. We do have dealt with drugs and death are not conducive to living an honest life with integrity. Ill forget what it will cost. You must change your bad behavior. Well give it to its a single card. You would like to know whats going on with it. They have to memorize the values of the republic, which are drilled into them relentlessly by the teachers who dont go about our di. Lets recall the value of the culture. And so you do what you need for me is that what weve done actually nearby, and you need to respect them in order to change your behavior and for life as we get into that more could you, what do you believe are the values, are upper ones so ill move over, im gonna try to get the values that constitute a true one, and i dont go and the good of our nations. Yeah, go, well, i guess whats your name done yet . You know what, then go on honesty and integrity and thats when done gone to see an integrity. Yeah. Im gonna go now. What else to see a how well it is . Yes. Yeah. Well, the love of work. What are we shoes for them to have . Those are funny was because they kind of not the bucket them to go to the assistance that i guess my task. So is it through how to acquire those, the, those you know, how to use in even the or so as the other side towards this is mike professional. Hes really to the, to, to change those, the logical force. And the both of them will be a g, d, g sleeps in this hall along with a 100 others. Everyone is responsible for keeping their own sleeping area clean. This is my bed. My blush, my age and everything. My crushes. Here the furnishings are sparse and worn. There are 3 meals a day prepared by the detaining lunch break is 30 minutes. Is in bins. This means and means in masonry, receipts that these then after which i suffer. More than 21000 young man had been sent to a one line in 8 years. The government provides them with Vocational Training to ease their integration into society. In 6 months, the j might learn masonry and be able to build new houses like these man, the for hell learn to be a taylor and make uniforms for the center. If you could also become a carpenter, the engineer has to be the same. Is a little bit needs to be the same size. There are repeat offenders of this workshop. Theyve been to walmart before and are starting their training all over again. The coordinator says this happens to just 5 percent. This is my 2nd time at the center. When i was released, i had no support to become a carpenter and that or whatever. So i went back to the same bad circles as that was arrested and brought here for the 2nd time that he says that was a mistake. I dont take drugs anymore, but they didnt see that i changed. I was just hanging out with those people from before when they caught me. Yes, he doesnt appear to be suffering or to regret being here again from the inside. Its hard to tell them that this is a secure facility. You dont see military personnel or guards around at times, the wall will even looks like a holiday. Can its difficult to know whats going through their minds. We meet the day again, harvesting a plant. Even though he can leave of his own free will he stresses that you want as an opportunity for him to be my friend was telling me this way of dealing with it or why is that even bothering by this and but i was very scared. It was, i was afraid to come here. They told me that they beat me. They beat me when i get here. But its not, its not like how they told me we have a good putting. So that would putting see here, our big my, the use in the computer, we notice that the coordinator and his helpers follow us at every turn. At the end of the interview, the j is led away still wearing on microphone. While you were you talking like youre being threatened, sounds like you talked about the big man like someone is watching you and is told you want to say what most of the people will see in the film that youre on. Comfortable. You know, they asked the questions about people in the center. I said they were like parents to us when i said big man, i just met the director of the center. How you looked at me like i was scaring you and telling you what to say. So it goes to another similar to quit easier when its no, its not like that. Im sorry i said big manages along a but i meant it like a father figure what level to, to in the news. What did you how did he touched a nerve . Over the years, they have been several reports from former residents of violence at the center. The manuel was on the island in 2018. He has very bad memories of his time at e y. What kind of a job . There are too many things i cant forget. It was terrible mostly right when we were punished for the smallest mistakes to continue doing what even sometimes we had to hold a sandbag for 3 hours to get them to move or hold up a heavy piece of wood until the plains sleep by raising the good news, who digitizing didnt use a move and even then they did use those details as they went easy on him because of his disabled leg. But he witnessed inmates abusing other inmates under the supervision of guards. Forgives video up forever know about 5 people died on the 1st day of the contract. You know, committing good moons are holding when the summer bitten them when they arrive up to there was matt, how can any computer, even people got trampled to go down and get okay. Good article. Assume that it was brutal. It seems. It was a, it was one of the men made a mistake because it was to beat me to a bullet to get up to different in young me. Does the bone of him, which is you then they poured solid on his own . Should i mutual more . Will go because im when you need to, to get us some of them and decided to escape the guy lives the money they swim away to come wish i could come to them as a new money because um we found out their bodies a few days later unless you had any to go see within that period or ocean, was it junior digit, as though it grew a state have rather died do wednesday at a while long and civilization for that in on you know, when we call waiting for me over the centers coordinator, denies allegations of misconduct. They are, they dont several reports of violence lose or the 100 and when they pass the local news, i dont know about that. I dont know about any reports of violence. There are statements that say otherwise to im going to be able close to my eyes and will see for yourself when people are happy here. So something ive never witnessed any violence and want to save yourself. Its even have, have you heard about it . And, and i dont want to spread rumors in december 2019 multiple charges of violence were filed and the authorities took action against several individuals. The trials took place before military officers in a court martial. In june 2021, 8 defendants were sentenced to 3 years in prison and find around 400 zeros. The case received little press coverage for independent media. Freedom of expression is a daily struggling bewanda. John williams and twilio has been a journalist for 20 years. Today hes preparing for a risky interview and how are you doing . Im good. Together with his camera man, hes meeting with intellectual and former journalist, christopher k, u ha, who founded his own political party. So i think to work on the concept from the the authorities have since band his organization. Hes now under defacto house arrest and rarely meets with journalists. Dont really use too good coverage for them for the Immediate Use only was to talk to and if he a, b, b, c, v we by traditional media. Yeah. Excluded them completely 15 into his mic. Cool. Its a risky interview on effect, but im taking the risk because i know im not hurting my country by doing, and it has to be at least for an hour. Hello. Hello. The 2 men discuss the Economic Situation of the country in the wake of the corona virus pandemic. As precaution, at no point did, he mentioned the name of the president or his party. Did you notice something i do daddy by the to the but also think that when you discussed they do use that specific. But when you discuss the appropriate monday you pull to do for this, they presented to them there, it will be soon as possible. Quit suzy, under that as a whole does its own day. And just above that, say that the only problem is in order to publish the interview, John Williams decided to lead the official tv channels and launched his own youtube channel. Now do you know, what do i get with one . And i do just like many other journalists on the platform that im with to use, i should receive a quantity of active results on console. And some of the big advantage of youtube for us is freedom of expression that there is much more than with the visual media in a to here we are free that the media classic. Coordinating with these journalists are still closely watched by the authorities. As were about to find out, i have a message from our guide. Weve been in the youtube or as office for under an hour and our guide already knows about it. I understand that youre about to do an interview with John Williams and tori. Could you tell me what topics you will be discussing . Can i assume these are not topics that we have already discussed together . Thanks for keeping me informed. Im surprised by this message so cool, so thats how it is here. I told you here everyone, spies on everyone, almost not everyone, but im not part of those spying on others, but its a lifestyle were used to. It like 15 experience in rwanda, freedom of expression is a farce for John Williams in twice and it was no surprise. Hes off in the target of threats and smear campaigns on social media. And there are calls for his arrest. How you know and to go sit with table. It says here more people will be charged for see that includes me in the wedding trinity and success in more were all targeted. I am not in directly either near your very directly on the ship us. We dont know whats going to happen to us. Sooner or later, well be in for a surprise shows. One to see a few days later, the well known blogger, a mob le kyra sierra, was arrested. Hes been accused of dividing, they were wanting people dont faces a prison sentence of 10 to 25 years. During our filming a dozen journalists were prosecuted or arrested bias ortiz is rwandas transformation. Really a miracle . Or im a raj . Time will tell the we are looking for the Interest Payment industry. Why do you think that point contact should be red lead . Any not nation coming on . Youre not the last the page. You have to pay for your own music to be in your own culture and we spend one value on ours. What is the we forward convince on encourage our people go beacon based on weight. I mix people for them in the 77 percent in 30 minutes on d. W. All the beautiful nefertiti who owns her egypt. This most prominent work of arts and germanys most iconic museum, petes art historian, benedicts savoy, reopen the case around the bus. She asks, what the Cultural Heritage me in the digital future, the 75 d w the we are all set and were watching closely. We all seem to bring use a story behind the news. Were rolling about unbiased information. All 3 months. Done the. 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