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DW The July 3, 2024

So requesting the Court Ordered back to me to cease providing support twist for help is contained the destruction of the senior people. Gemini does not another date via the Genocide Convention nor International Humanitarian law that directly not in direct because i was involved in the responsibility are too many in connection with the genocide committed by israel. Rock last presentation was grossly biased, also coming up ukrainians, using whatever weapons they can find to defend themselves from russian drones strikes. Roy, youre probably good associate. This weapon was used even in the 1st world war we ended, the 2nd go the its quite reliable, but its obviously not the best weapon for shooting down hard take drones. We go to our viewers watching on tv as in the United States and to all of you around the world. Welcome. We begin today with the weapons that could make germany and accomplish to genocide. Nicaragua is accusing germany, particularly germanys weapon sales to israel, of facilitating the alleged genocide of palestinians and gone. So in other words, german guns are being used by is really forces to rid the gaza strip of palestinians of germany rejects the accusation, saying there is no case here whatsoever. And in the 6 months since the last terror attacked, israel has repeatedly denied claims that its a campaign to destroy him off is also an attempt to carry out genocide against palestinians. We have more now with this report to nicaragua, his case against germany has to main goals to hold buildings, military exports to israel, and to restart german funding for the u. Ns, Palestinian Refugee agency. The arguments that germanys actions are in breach of the Genocide Convention. Government is taking to onto it, so not legation to prevention. Decide what with respect of International Humanitarian law, gemini, supply of alms to israel is a central pillar of nicaragua, as case germany is israel, 2nd largest supply of behind to the United States. Accounting for about 30 percent of all is rails, with an impulse. Nicaragua argues that by continuing to provide these weapons, germany is enabling israel to commit acts of genocide in gaza. In the International Court of justice is currently examining where the israel has committed genocide in a separate case launched by south africa in bringing this case before the court. Nicaragua says it is acting on behalf of the palestinian people. I mean, this is a very important case, obviously for out of the stadium brothers, but also for the people that make it, i will, as you may have heard and always pressure and indicate i will. We have enormous sympathy with the palestinians with the suffering device to new people are going to and thats why we felt think we had to do something. Obviously the only thing that i look into issues to you, to record, since it has been part of the few things. I think that ive had some experience with the International Court of justice close ties between nicaragua and palestinian organizations, dates back to 1979. When palestinian groups supported this end and this, the Guerrilla Forces that over through nicaragua, was dictatorship, mental germany staunch support of israel goes back to just off to the 2nd world war. The German Government sees supporting Israel Security as a historical responsibility for germanys actions in the holocaust. A 1000000000 categorically rejects nicaragua, as accusations does most and never did while at the Genocide Convention nor International Directory in the gym. And he will get its chance to make its case in court on tuesday. My 1st guess tonight brings a wealth of experience in International Criminal justice in 2001. He led the prosecution of the former president of serbia. So, but on the looks of it she in front of the International Criminal court. Im happy to welcome to night mister jeffrey. Nice. You joins me from london. Mister, nice. Its good to have you. With this, this case before the court now in nicaragua, aiming at germany in connection with israel, the palestinians, and gods, the accusation of genocide to the outside observer. This may not seem intuitive at all. What is the reasoning behind this law suit in your opinion . Um it is actually prod, intuitive. I think if for example, you know that your labels about 2000 cuz the neighbors pop net and you provide the neighbor with a gun, but the neighbor use it. Then of course youre responsible for the crime. The impact for the crime, the neighbor commit search, quite easy to understand most being said here, and its going to trust in respect to your country, but also an extensive gain. Respect to the United Kingdom as well as in america, is that if the time has come and many people think it has, when israel is coming back to the will no longer be justified in lieu of your tongue. Then if you provide weapons to assess your country, you will becoming a partner in breaking the law the full i have said that if theres any evidence of genocide by israel and you know that there may be genocide getting on, then obviously you cant be complicit in genocide who the more than that as the ambassador of nicaragua, to the hey, explained in his address to camera the Genocide Convention, which meant to come to the punch is state policies such as our end country and your country. Article was as soon as genocide happens, you have to do something about it depends on the circumstances. If genocides happening in the neighboring country and it is Something Like the horrors of the holocaust. And maybe you have to take very strong physical action. But would it make sense in distress . Would it make more sense for them to her off what it to, to aim at the United States . Since youre talking about your neighbor, we know that thats not possible in this case, right . The as well. Thats a matter of the nature of do it, but theyve chosen to go against germany on the basis that germany is a very substantial supply. Robbins and thats open to them as a political decision icon. Help was why they didnt make the, the, the decision as long as they made. I think its very important for people to understand that its the last 70 years. Since the Genocide Convention came to being in 1952. That those who exceed or rush to or ratify the convention knows. Its absolutely telling dooce the minute genocide may be competitive, and you cant understand why its so pop in the front. The people who drafted the Genocide Convention knew exactly what they spoke about. Theyve been in one World Property and 2, and theyve seen the hotter as of a concentration comes in within the last 12 months. So they knew exactly what was going on. But its all based if you, if you think about it on the concept that show model t is single and issue out of his single. Then the mental stake required to prove genocide which is the to intend to destroy another bit of humanity simply because of who they are, the rich jewish people, whether its people in orlando, armenians, and so on me, if you intend to do doing something actually dreadful, because youre destroying ourselves, but, but mr. Lies not all of humanity is, is a member of the International Criminal court. The United States doesnt recognize this court, for example. And im wondering, since germany does, is germany being targeted by nicaragua, simply because its the next best thing that can be targeted could easily be im afraid youll have to ask you a political expense about that because its outside my sphere of expertise. But the beam pen key pen cubic tonsils over recent years. Tragic examples of how possible country this has stood in the way of justice. All attempts to deliver just so that i think if you would have gotten us the citizen on the streets of germany or britain or anywhere else at the moment, most of them would say, for goodness sake, lets stop the fighting. And for goodness sake, lets have this master promptly adjudicated by an independent try, beautiful. And if it happens to be her mouth only to a comfortable so be it. Cuz obviously im asked how comfortable the web page it is without doubt criminal. Pretty quickly, if theres evidence, israel may be criminal and that has to be tested. And what youre not hearing from the political leaders of the big countries is that they agree that there should be a trial criminal off in the i c j which is not a criminal code. You know, its a different kind of the, the protection and survival of the state of israel. It is part of germanys region of state, part of the dna if you will, of the german body polity has this commitment, has it made berlin especially vulnerable to legal challenges like what were seeing right now . Im not sure who it is. My germany specially is unavailable. The creation of the state of israel, which from the beginning of the 19th century, with the balance of declaration made by an english, minnesota and then as being supported by many countries, naturally the United States of america. But out of the country sense is there is a response to the terrible things that happened to the jewish people, not just in world war 2, but for centuries are indeed millennial because of ralph and anti semitism which has existed around the globe. Thats why im develop as soon as it was happening, all those involved who werent guy, that palestinians or jewish around your state, people themselves charged you to recognize that this was an inevitable problem that was coughing and designed as founders of israel. So all of that, and i think its more important perhaps, but again, im straining outside my expertise is more important, in fact, to look at what the big pots and comforters in the United Nations and so have not stopped over the last several decades to a full size or a 2 state solution or one state solution that resolve this problem. And so you got 2 problems in power. Know how we must on that. Weve always tried to on the, in respect to the jewish people in the jewish state. But how does this power, no problem, not with their own initial creation of the palestinian people, which citizens around the world feel very strongly. I want to ask you before weve been out of time, you have chaired to try bugles at the cord. The we are in the, the trying to try beautiful in the week or try and funeral. The conclusion was that china had committed genocide under article 2 of the 1949 gymnast such as i convention. Youve been quoted as saying at the time that there was no other way of bringing the leadership of the Chinese Communist party collectively or individually to judgment. Does that also apply to data . Is real and or its allies in the claim of genocide against palestinians and gone ser, you know, its not the different as the what i was saying that was that china is probably a most vulnerable to the International Court of justice. And thats why a lot of the 5 we already saw it may be made of finding one of 5 possible forms of genocide, but we just basically made with absolute to fire, she beyond reasonable doubt. So thats different from the position that and so far as is where it is concerned is rep how as always, remember, both sides are always remember that how much theres no defense to what i did. On the 7th of october, the International Criminal colt. A. Well, its cold, so 12 except the large part of the world is not signed up to it, but it does have jurisdiction of israel. And therefore, it is in a position and they have said as much, well, the america and great britain, no, i dare say germany doesnt want its the same as it has jurisdiction. I think invo reverse is considered a thomas and the, the is there any defense tools and these ready political leadership, but also quite possibly, if any of the countries getting both on the ground because that the basis for jurisdiction of the International Criminal quote in godsa is the submission to jurisdiction by the palestinian. Those are archie in 90 in 2015. They need to be off the shortly after the end of the last message. Will operation protect ridge right and it submitted during the ice. You see, for both the west bank characters and for gauze. Mr. Fortunately, were out of time, but we certainly appreciate you taking the time to help on this critical analysis of whats going on. Thank you. It looks great and present a bottom is zalinski says, without more military support from the us. It will be difficult for ukraine to win the war against russia or even survive. So lensky has been pleading with western countries, not just the u. S. To provide more aid and defense systems. Since the started this year, ukraine has faced the tags by russian missiles and drones, the severity increasing week by week. Our next report looks as a group of volunteers defending the ukrainian capital from jolla tags using anything and everything. They have including ward was one weapons. The w corresponded Young Phillip schultz reports tonight from cheats they have among rushes, most fed weapons shall have james. They asked me cheap and available in huge quantities. Judge you have getting present, said has taken up his own personal battle against the drones during the day. Is that said works, it keeps administer to quote that off to work, he swaps his coat dress. So come a fraud in stats hunting drones. And he, and as a judges take up position on a high rise building on the outskirts of the city, the most important Weapon Museum and a machine gun. Roy, you would go to solar shape. This weapon was used even in the 1st world war we ended in the 2nd the its quite reliable, but its obviously not the best weapon for shooting down hard tech drawings. We believe we really need more modern and more effective weapons to fight because its obvious that russia will not stop this war to the stop by force. Uh, i would say that i can never put in and see the me 40 judges of joining the volunteer driving hunters. They call themselves team justice as judges, they are considered indispensable in the capital. So they are not allowed to join the army on the front lines. Not that not leave on to what has also become crucial, leaving the cities regular defense force. And despite that update to the equipment thats managed to dow new most, yall had drawings. They say the biggest challenge is staying a lot and ready to jump into action. No matter what. Its happened to me many times. Im quite relaxed, but then suddenly the air right to let start seem like, but we get ready. We climb to a firing positions and we start shooting. Thats what prevents, are you able to the, what . The judges can remain in that purse up to 24 hours at a time in the capital and elsewhere. Nevada is declining. Ukraine is struggling to sign up for new recruits the most. So most people still know that everyone in this world is going to be a warrior. And that will be this. Not everyone is going to be responsible citizen. And im for a credit union. I dont want to condemn people who dont take on the more active part to defend the country for mission aggression. Thing though, which is, do you everyone makes their own choices in life . Ers here, when are you familiar with someone who used to be the last year is intensifying its at campaign and this means that these judges terms, jo, hunters may be spending more of that time monitoring the night sky. Eva, keys, the well, if youre watching us on cbs, then you are going to know what im talking about. Parts of north america have experienced a total Solar Eclipse. The new crossed paths with the sun, causing of what is known as a path of 2 towers shed. Which has been traveling from the west coast of mexico up through the central and eastern United States, north west pass newfoundland, 10 millions of people all across north america. Have been following this speak check dealer natural phenomena including keith cowan, who is editor at nasa. Once he joins me now from washington, hes been making the media rails today on this day of the total Solar Eclipse. So keith, tell me, um, what did you experience with that youre in washington dc. You were not in the past to tell the right no, but we got about 90 percent. We had our glasses, we went outside and it was a, you know, we, we got, we didnt get the whole show, but we got a good, you know, 3rd row seat to what was going not vote for people who have never experienced a Solar Eclipse or even partial tell us what was it like, what did you experience in the moments of the actual eclipse . When does it, if youre actually in whats called the pathogen county where it is . Yeah, theres a picture of were moving completely covers the sun as you approach that it starts to get weirdly dark like the, the shadows or the angles are not used to during the day. And then it gets quiet. And thats mostly cause a everybody around you is just like freaking out. This is really cool. But also its not one of the apples. Yeah, i was thinking was nighttime and somebody go to sleep, the bird stuff chirping. And then it starts to get cool because the sun ones are planted. And so at one point when the sun is completely out as nighttime, almost in the middle of the day. And just as youre getting used to that, it reverses itself. And suddenly there is the sun again, such as a very unusual way to just, you know, take a break from the day. And of course, usually surrounded by thousands of other people who are having exactly the same impression. I just wish more people will put their phones down and just look at the sky to their special glasses. And yeah, leave it to nassau rejected good pictures that you can send to people. I was gonna ask you if you noticed that because we were showing like pictures as the eclipse was moving across north america and, and what you know, its stuck out to me and people in the news

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