Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703 : vimarsana.com

Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703 : vimarsana.com

ESPRESO July 3, 2024

Of monetary support in bill 9342 and accordingly, and accordingly, this amendment was rejected in the previous draft law, it is what is proposed is currently regulated by the resolutions of the cabinet of ministers, these resolutions are being finalized, part of it has already been fully put into effect for voting , the proposal of dmytro oleksandrovich rozmkov to take into account amendment number 46, authored by him and his colleagues in the committee, it rejected, please vote for 130, the decision was not adopted, the correction was not taken into account, dmytro oleksandronkov, the practice is similar , colleagues, you now see the lies in the walls of the Verkhovna Rada, im just trying to pick up the words when the speaker says that they regulated it in another law, and in the second sentence he says that they didnt regulate it. Are you telling the truth or tell the truth to our defenders and their families that you dont plan to pay it, or lets fix it at the level of law because well , you cant lie so openly in the parliament in the parliamentary president ial republic, not even to your colleagues. Its not scary, we re used to it. The families of those who lost their loved ones at the front, please support. There is nothing additional to the problem here, and there is not even a policy, the position of the committee already regulates the issue of payments to the families of fallen soldiers, as far as i can see, it was settled in the committee in a different way, that is, the amendments taken into account were worked out by the working group, in particular with the departments, that is why in such wording , even from a technical and legal point of view, the proposal was rejected regarding the previous amendment. This was indeed regulated in the previous law adopted by the Verkhovna Rada, and on the basis of this, for the implementation of the law, the resolution of the cabinet of ministers, amendment number 80, peoples deputy razumkov, i propose to take it into account, it was rejected by the authorship committee , razumkov mokkona and colleagues , please vote for 134, the decision was not adopted, the amendment was not taken into account, dmytro oleksandrovich, it is still taken into account. Yes, please, number 77, thank you, amendment dear colleagues, many of you drives around the front communicates with our defenders , a completely unfair story happened to us before the start of the full scale, our defenders and you received preferential enrollment of payment of years that is, this amendment provides for the restoration of the right of military personnel to preferential enrollment of years of service, when one month of service is counted as three months of service. In fact , when the fullscale war with russia began on 24. 02. 2, this was canceled, that is, those who were accepted into the ato and oos received a month for three , and now a month for month colleagues this is absolutely unfair lets correct this injustice and return it to our defenders with you i want to listen to the position of the committee that this time they are hindered by the position of the committee thank you, the correction was due to the fact that the relevant bills also need to be changed, eh, i cannot specify the detailed position of the committee, but i am sure that each and every member of the committee is ready to work it out together with you and, accordingly, with all colleagues who care and submit it in the next package but nevertheless, it requires a number of legislative changes, and not only this amendment that you submitted. I am putting to the vote dmytro oleksandrs proposal, it is still reasonable to take into account his amendment number 78, authored by him and his colleagues , it was rejected by the committee, please vote and 77 yes im sorry 77 please, please vote for 125 the decision was not made, the amendment was not taken into account Dmytro Oleksandrovych, there is another 83rd amendment, it is similar, look, and now the head of the committee is saying that everyone has a separate opinion here, there should be no separate opinions here , there should be an opinion about the ukrainian army, about the defenders, i you know, i want to appeal to you, it may turn out that the council will end, the war will continue and each of you will go to the front, and it may turn out that you wanted to be assigned years of service in a month for three months, lets treat everyone exactly the same, and not we have been putting off a war for a year and a half, and you are suggesting to me again, lets make another commission, lets make a commission for a commission in conscience , dear representative of the committee , lets vote and return what we are obliged to do to our defenders, thank you, the position of the committee, please do not manipulate me im begging you. Im putting dmytro oleksandr 83s proposal to the vote. It was rejected by the committee. I ask you to vote against 136. The decision was not made. The amendment was not taken into account. Then i will put one of them 25th 64th 82nd and 84th please three minutes of counting thank you dear colleagues, we remember the 48th amendment of the smart policy team i am grateful to everyone in this hall who voted for it after that voted for the law and the representatives can the majority of the workers of all parliamentary factions who supported it, i will not now name those who blocked this law is still in limbo and does not allow to fully return what the state and parliament owe to our defenders but i i remember a lot of cries, including from the representative of the committee who reported today on the subject of the fact that there is no money for this, that it needs 300 billion 170 190 trillion after the authorities realized that there are no other options and something must be done because a law was introduced in which they could not write anything more reasonable, as they do not need additional expenses from the budget , we changed the minister of defense because the previous one said that it was the army that asked to take thirty additional payments from our defenders , and Everything Else will be the same, 15 million per which you didnt vote for today and one month in three which you also didnt vote today and many other things lets respect our army lets respect our defenders lets not postpone commission after commission again lets not invent new excuses lets not look for politics where there is none lets do as the army needs, as the armed forces of ukraine need everything, as the Defense Forces and all those who give their lives and health for our country dear colleagues, i am making these amendments together with our colleagues from a reasonable policy proposed and propose to fix all payments for our defenders and representatives who take part in the defense and Defense Forces of our state at the level of the law, we have a new minister of defense, i hope that he will approach this process more qualitatively, we will not hear from him, the army is asking take away their salaries, take away additional payments, etc. , and i really hope that we will come to the point where the parliament fulfills one of its key functions of controlling what the government does, what is done in the state and fulfills the orders given to him by the voters of ukrainian society, thank you. I understand that you do not support that, so i will not even put them to the vote, but i will have to answer for it. Well, lets go to the vote, colleagues , get ready, please turn in your seats , i will put to the vote the proposal to accept in the second reading and as a whole with the necessary technical legal amendments draft laws with Registration Number 9638 draft law on amendments to certain legislative acts of ukraine on strengthening social protection servicemen , policemen, and some other persons, the proposal to be accepted in the second reading and in general with the necessary technical legal amendments, please vote for 283, the decision was adopted, the law was adopted as a whole we cannot vote on bills , they are conspiracies, lets move on to the members of the Supreme Chamber and we will remove by resolution on the cancellation of the decision of the Verkhovna Rada, thank you, yes, i am going to show myself vlaschenko from the procedure, i would simply ask to clarify the proposal, i. E. The proposal is such that we are now moving to the Accounting Chamber Andriy Viktorovich motovylovets i would like to clarify the proposal, i. E. Now we are moving on to the questions according to the Accounting Chamber and then blocking resolutions under the law on lawmaking if so, then i have no more questions thank you, we also understood this proposal in the same way Dmytro Oleksandrovych please thank you thank you oleksandr serhiych dear colleagues whats the point we can in the hall there is not a single candidate for the position of account members of the Accounting Chamber we choose an empty seat or candidates where they are for which issues we want to move who where to elect or if you want to just fail it say we want to fail and thats all and then we wont well people in to mislead, lets all just part ways serhiychuk so what is it about now lets move on to the question , there is a report for us, a report , at least i am the head of the Budget Committee and i can see it in front of me , so she can report to us the situation of the profession with this contest and at the end of the contests. So, if there are no alternative proposals, i put the proposal of Andriy Viktorovich motovylovych to the vote. I ask you to vote. Alternative stop stop stop stop stop stop the vote alternative proposal of European Solidarity please from the gerashchenko procedure. We support the proposal of the motherland in general, but we also suggest that today, at least two temporary investigative commissions were voted on. I would like to remind you that the tsk remains illegitimate, if there will not be a representative of European Solidarity there, and we ask you to vote on it, and it has been agreed now with the monomajority and the friend it is also tsk ee 9534, which is headed by mrs. Skorokhod, where from our faction oleksiy goncharenko, we are ready to vote these e two tsks without discussion andrii viktorovych there is no objection to the application. These two pressures in your proposal are tsk9641 and tsk 9645. We add them to this proposal. What are you against with the procedure . Add four more yes ok, then in the order of receipt we will now vote we have three proposals yes without discussion we have three proposals now the first proposal of andrii viktorovich motovylovych just go to the issue of appointing members of the Accounting Chamber and further blocking resolutions the second proposal of iryna volodymyrivna gerashchenko go to the consideration of two resolutions on the tsk, their numbers 9641 and 96 45, and then proceed to the appointment of members of the accounting blocking resolutions and the third proposal of ms. Ustinova to add to all todays pressure and their there are four 96 4196 45 96 57 9651 and then proceed to the appointment of members of the accounting blocking resolutions, therefore, in the order of receipt , we will also offer you and dmytro oleksandrovichs link, please, the fourth offer of razumkov. Thank you, oleksandr serhiyevich, there is another offer in the link due to the fact that apparently well, there are not enough votes, just close this meeting and proceed to the performance of other important functions of a peoples deputy. Yes, thank you. Dear colleagues , i will put to a vote the proposal of andrii viktorovich motovylovych , i ask you to vote for 201, the decision was not accepted. The decision has not been made. Lets not put dmytro oleksandr rumzkovs proposal to the vote if there is no potential or if there is a proposal, please andrii viktorovych, are you going to the rostrum or where are you going with your suggestions . We have procedures , please. Olena kostina, i am handing over the leadership. It is very easy to support what the motor hunter proposed, but taking into account the fact that there are two tscs , one tsc, which is ms. Skorokhod and one inclusion of mr. Chamber, i sincerely thank you, Accounting Chamber and blocking resolutions, i correctly put such a proposal that has just been voiced , please put it to a vote. I think she will be one of the last ones, please. I am asking you to listen to the hall now. We have a draft bill on the tenth issue about our pilots. Let s do something today. One thing is normal for the army. We will vote there, there is no discussion. And this is the fact that our pilots die every day. You are probably waiting for this in your social networks. They asked a lot, including juice, who died for us and you in the sky, so please vote for this bill today, ms. Oleksandra, please name the number of the bill and when you put proposal 25 again 93 25 i am asking you very much there was no discussion to support this bill oleksiy oleksiyovych will discuss it so that everyone understands the discussion simply will not work out that is why he has no right there let me then put well, there is a proposal, there is a proposal that was just made by a certain stinova dear colleagues, lets all be a little tired, please, a minute of attention , please Dmytro Razumkov Dmytro Razumkov, please thank you, dear olena kosivna, thank you oleksandr sergeyevich for following the regulations, but you just missed it. I was also making a proposal that due to the fact that we do not see the necessary number of votes for further consideration , close this meeting, or rather, announce a break within the framework of the resolution that was indicated so that we do not transform the work and the legislative body of the state in what will cause misunderstanding among our voters and i thank the first deputy and the deputy for the Effective Work of these two days thank you thank you thank you dmytro oleksandrovich i have to comment i have a suspicion that according to the resolution we are currently working on, decisions regarding the break are announced chairman and there is simply no point in putting such proposals to the vote, they will have a recommendatory psychological character for the prizyds, yes. If there is such a need, we can certainly put them to the vote. But it seems to me that the chairman is it acceptable to announce when the adjournment is to be announced in our wonderful meeting today . So we have a proposal by oleksandr yuriivn ustinova to move now to the bill 93 25 and after that to the accounting and resolutions correctly. Adopted so the second reading, we have already determined the procedure, we are in favor of no , now we are going iryna volodymyrivna gerashchenko , please dear colleagues, i want to address the voice faction, please Pay Attention to colleagues on to the democratic camp, we always support your proposals. It hurts me very much, mrs. Ustinova. That today, well, again, in essence , you did not vote for the report Card Commission headed by your colleague. Proposal, mr. Arahamia , mr. Motovylovits, please, with the servants of the people , let us support the following, vote for the pilots, then, without discussion, two tscs, tsc sabela, we will delegate to panaeva, an important tsc skorokhod without discussion, we postpone the rest of tsk to the next meeting and go to the Accounting Chamber, please. We offer a way of several votes according to the type of law, now according to the pilots , two more extractions. We have heard your proposal , we will put it after the vote at 93 25. I counted one replica of the party, the voice of the faction, the voice, if she wants, the head of the faction, next, personal ms. Ustinova, and then personal pansabr , please ustinova, two minutes, turn on the microphone in the wall, please. I am asking colleagues very much vote for our pilots, this is a bill they really need, if you dont want them to sit in prisons and be dragged around for interrogations, then you have to vote for it now, please dont leave the room. Ms. Irynas remarks, i have just specially opened the voting of the factions, the vote for your proposal is 13 to 1 3, well, thats why when you say that we did not vote, we supported your proposal with the majority of factions, lets proceed to the consideration of the draft law 93 25 second reading draft law on amendments to the criminal code of ukraine and other legislative acts of ukraine regarding the improvement of the provisions of the current legislation in terms of criminal liability for committing military criminal offenses related to the violation of the rules of operation of combat or special vehicles for flight performance or training for them , please Hryhoriy Mykolayovych mom, yes, 1 minute. Dear deputies, i still wanted to take the floor from the procedure. Two resolutions, and then who will have what from the procedure to turn it into a bollard, we will put it to a vote. Thank you, are there any amendments here, no , let s go to the vote, okay, there is no such process. With the necessary technical and legal amendments, the draft law under Registration Number 9325 on amendments to the criminal code of ukraine and other legislative acts of ukraine regarding the improvement of the provisions of the current legislation in part of criminal responsibility for committing military criminal offenses related to the violation of the rules for operating combat or special vehicles , conducting flights or preparing for them, piloting. Of the Accounting Chamber and blocking resolutions, i ask you to vote zaz 196, the decision has not been made, we move on to the issue of the Accounting Chamber of course, everything from by arturs discussion everything as you say everything from the discussion so, lets move on to the question of the Accounting Chamber, dear peoples deputies , in accordance with paragraph 16, part one, article 85 of the constitution of ukraine, article 20 of the law of ukraine, the Accounting Chamber, article 208, crimea , two of the regulations of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine , the Verkhovna Rada appoints members to the position of members of the Accounting Chamber, the committee on budget issues held a competition for the occupation of four vacant positions of members of the Accounting Chamber in accordance with part four of the 20th regulation of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine is included in the agenda of the extraordinary session without voting in accordance with the regulations of the proposal of the specialized committee, the following order of consideration of this issue is proposed a report from the Budget Committee for up to three minutes, speeches from parliamentary factions of groups up to 16 minutes , speeches of peoples deputies up to four minutes , rating voting using the Electronic System in alphabetical order for each candidate, the determination of the four candidates with the largest number of votes, the decision being made by the list determined according to the results of the rating voting , it will take approximately 45 minutes, if there are no objections to such a beautiful woman. Procedures when postregistration , please manipulate and actually deceive the voters of ukraine, of course you say that this procedure is defined in the regulations. Yes, it is definitely defined in the regulations, but are you manipulating others, namely the fact that the parliament is supposedly planning to continue work, but in fact you are proposing that your colleagues leave this hall and go about their other business and you do not want these decisions to be made. Therefore, i ask that you follow exactly the procedure that you say is prescribed in the regulations, you have now put it to a vote , and if the council makes such a decision, then we will follow this procedure. And if not, then we will make another proposal regarding the procedure for considering this decision, we are following the procedure for determining the regulations regarding yes