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Them to hold the front, and then the time will come for kherson two when they will understand that it is necessary to leave , otherwise they will be surrounded by whole groups not companies for battalions, but for armies, uh, so uh, the only way out will be to run away, so now they will cling to everything, to decrees , to everything, to visits and to suggest what , lets go, we want, well, only the truth on our terms. Thats because what are they they will not be able to cross the line, and i think that in this case, all these words of nedobrinkin are not for washington, they are to their propagandists, who should start chewing it up for the population and say that in reality, well, putin is be peaceloving, he wants peace. Well, the truth is, it is based on the New Historical realities that have developed, they have now appeared on the formula, new realities, new accessions today, by the way, the head of the socalled duma, although it is very correctly called not the state duma the state idiot said that he is special its nice how the elections were held in the New Territories that became part of russia and that they were held. Well, its just fantastic , uh, and democratically, the truth is told by machines and the like. And that this is another holiday of russian democracy. Well, if they go with such intentions on negotiations, well, negotiations. I think they will talk about the terms that each of them will receive after they successfully arrive by special train, probably to er, and for now kimchin arrived on an armored train by special train to russia, he er will to talk with putin, it is clear about the supply of weapons from north korea to russia, in front of whom chinina visited sergey shogun, the minister of defense of the Russian Federation , the spokesman for the state department of the United States of america, Matthew Miller, says this about the possibility of north korea supporting russia in the war with ukraine we we will follow the results of this meeting very carefully, i will remind both countries that any transfer of weapons from north korea to russia will be a violation of numerous resolutions of the un security council, and of course we actively apply our sanctions against those who finance russias military efforts, and we will continue to apply these sanctions and will not hesitate to introduce new restrictions against north korea if necessary, mr. Volodymyr , does this sound like a threat to north korea , they are already in isolation, they live there by themselves and north korea will probably act now as an intermediary between china and russia, because china cannot directly help russia, and it is obvious that weapons can come from north korea , including those manufactured in china, as far as there is such the likely scenario and whether the sanctions that Matthew Miller is talking about can stop one and the other side, well, regarding the sanctions, well, here i think its true, youre right, its more general general conversations between real steps because we see that north korea is already under sanctions for more than a dozen years, but besides that, it is developing its nuclear program, it is developing everything that i consider necessary and it does not pay much attention to all these sanctions, because it lives at the hands of china, which provides it with everything it needs so that she does not simply starve to death because uh and its not a secret in this country uh, well, many, many people live on the edge , balancing between uh, life and death , because well, because uh, what kind of people are you now you are showing that they believe that their lives are worthless, so i think the question here will not be about north korea itself for the americans , but about chinas role in this connection, which can really affect what is happening in north korea korea and influence seriously, well, on the other hand, of course. Today , uh, these two dictators discussed what for they were prepared by shoigu, who visited the dprk a few weeks ago, namely, about the transfer to russia of the remnants of soviet weapons that were still there since the times of the ussr. That is, it is actually an outdated arsenal that is what it is unlikely that it can help russia to break the situation at the front, but for me this is evidence that russia has already sunk below the plinth, if it is asking north korea for weapons from 40 years ago, well, it means that the excited Russian Missile defense the current moscow rulers and their posipaks tell a good story in fact, it degraded to mice. That is, it is not able to really hold needs at least at some elementary level , so it seems to me that the situation here will not be critical for us, although although military experts say that there may be a certain supply of this obsolete equipment of obsolete weapons eh, but the experts do not give a fundamental meaning to this supply , so i think that eh, we should definitely take this into account, but work eh with our American Partners so that they use appropriate measures along the ee line beijing, in which it can actually become, i repeat once again, the tool that will influence the actions of this inadequate man , but vladimir, according to your feelings , russia is turning into the same north korea , well, that is, as you said, north korea is under sanctions not one dozen years. That is, it is a closed country, it is a mini soviet union, that is, they built this country, uh, completely closed from the west , the west closed any access to foreign markets for them. Korea which will live for decades, they will live in poverty, as they lived before in most russian regions, but it will be north korea simply frozen by their behavior and everything, i see russian statistics that show that, well, on average, we understand that this is the average temperature in the hospital, but still, well, maybe there is some er, some certain indicator er, still, there is something about it, so the average salary er in china is twice as much as the average salary in russia, it is already now er ago degradation of ee economy of russia will be to continue or will it turn into such a pure north korea, i still think not, that is, at least the gates to the east will be opened and the russian population will somehow be able to penetrate to see and so on in relation to the civilized world, the question here is obvious. I think that russia has no chance of returning to the west, and i dont think there will be any more. Until then , until it organizes how this empire is, at least thats why there is already a turn to the east. Russia will already transform it. Everything changes more and more Raw Materials addition to china is a trend that everyone has already noticed and it is only intensifying and deepening until it is closed in the style of north korea. Therefore , it will not happen because, well , russia has already passed this stage, or will some region want to well, lets say the same far east, which uh well, after all, it has uh obvious benefits of cooperation with the same china to close and turn into north korea. I think not. In the end, uh, from moscow to vladivostok there are eight time zones and after all, there are certain elements of some kind local selfgovernments have a place or at least had a place, that is, you can go back to that and that means that it will be impossible to build such a fivetosixmeter wall around russia. To be honest , i dont think its necessary because well, i dont think that when we talk about russia, we are talking about the future beyond er 57 years, volodymyr, on september 910 , another summit of the g20 was held in new delhi, as a result of which a declaration was adopted according to which the participants they called on russia to restore the grain agreement and end the war, although the ministry of Foreign Affairs of ukraine was quite skeptical about this declaration and the comments were from our Foreign Policy department, but Olga Skabeeva jumped up on russian tv and talked about the g20 summit and what a slap in the face it was lets listen to zelenskiy and not putin , the chancellor of the pirate republic of germany, scholz , and together with them, the entire collective smell in ukraine, here in khmelnytka, the twentytwo will answer only one single point, very politely it is politely expressed in the escaping wording, no calls for the withdrawal of Russian Troops were made, there were no compromise sentences about the constitution, he has already adopted resolutions, even baida, who is the usual critic of putin, was absolutely unable to lobby for a discussion of russia. It wasnt and everyone wasnt, but they are happy that there is a small paragraph or two about us, considering the situation in the world and how india explained the absence of the ukrainian leader, or at least online, if not offline, well, it looks like there is a World Economy. It is working. We gathered to talk about the holy week in the economy. And what is outside the World Economy does not concern us , our indian friends said, should we talk about the World Economy at all . Without context, without what is happening in the world, that in the center of europe, one of the biggest wars of the last 90 years is currently going on, that security is affecting only ukrainians. In ukraine depends on what will happen on planet earth, including what will happen to the economy , these are things that should be clear to everyone and everyone, but you see right away there is what is called the National Interest and that is the same fashion well, he is pushing the line that in this case will be beneficial to india , will be beneficial to some other countries of the socalled global rooster, but lets not think that this global south is some kind of monolithic force that opposes e of this event hated by all and something else, well, look, everyone didnt come, and why didnt he come, and he didnt come for a simple reason, because he didnt want to be number two in india, because now between china and india, something is just beginning that will have very serious consequences in the future, because now the competition is starting between these two large countries with the most population and economies for the first place, but not in the world anymore, but here in the same global south , and it is very telling that everyone did not come because they did not want to play along with, well, clearly the first roles of india on this site as a country that has been selforganizing in this country, lets not forget that russia and china, on the other hand, are setting up this global south against the western world , and i think that in order to prevent this from happening, the western the partners agreed on a rather blurred text of this declaration in principle in order to demonstrate that we do not want to oppose ourselves to this global rooster, but on the other hand, has this changed the approach of these countries to the aid of ukraine, of course not, ms. Skabeeva you can jump up there, do somersaults and so on, but the situation has not changed because of this, they just lull themselves with what they really wanted to see, but uh, not seeing it, well, they continue this propaganda line, well, cheers, thats what they say it doesnt interfere with us in any way, thats why i think this is the same moment when the west decided to play more subtle, to play smarter , to take into account that one way or another, the struggle for this global south is ahead and we should not oppose ourselves to these countries, but vice versa look for opportunities calmly eh to translate all these things in the discussion into polemics in some er there are round tables and so on on one or other issues and not push them away er to the joy of china and russia so i think anyway er well to a certain extent er diplomatic compromise which in no way means not that some kind of victory of russia but er even a hint of it well but propaganda to wait propaganda to do from nothing what they need another event of the last few weeks well of the last week yes exactly this is history with the fall of drone debris on the territory of romania, the ministry of Foreign Affairs of romania of russian drones was called by the temporary charge daffaires of the Russian Federation due to the found wreckage of drones on the territory of the country and hmm they were handed over by bucharest to the protest in connection with the violation of the airspace of romania. There are no problems, it does not threaten the National Security of romania, because they hit the Port Infrastructure of ukraine and got to that bank of the danube, where you see now, they burned trees and burned the forest why do you think, mr. Volodymyr, that bucharest is together with nato . Why didnt they convene a special meeting because this is not the first time that russian drones or russian combat units have landed on the territory of Member States of the atlantic alliance. There was a history in poland, and there was also a history in romania before and there are many other stories there in the last 1. 5 years , it seems up to 10 such cases were in the north atlantic ocean, well, it is obvious that there were fragments of a Russian Missile in poland, when these fragments killed two poles, there were flights Russian Missiles on the territory of romania, which the romanians didnt see up close now. They didnt see what was objective at first , what was burning so that it was visible several kilometers from the ukrainian side. Well , now they finally saw it. That is, the line that, im sorry i repeat again, it is explained by the reluctance to escalate the situation, as it says. This is a weak position it is a position that provokes putin to do the same. It seems to me that even these formal diplomatic protests, which the romanian side managed , could look different, they could to say and make it public once again that if any Russian Missile flies over the territory of romania, it will be shot down by the air Defense Forces of romania and it would be even better if three nato countries , namely romania, bulgaria and turkey announced the territory of the northwest of the black sea is a nofly zone for russian aircraft and they would say that in the event of the appearance of any missiles or satellites there, because of what else they will get lost and so on , that is, there are many options, but they are all they are possible when there is political will and when there is no political will. Well, then they dont notice, they dont see, they dont hear, and so on. In such cases, i always remember putins great friend erdogan, who at one time gave the order to shoot down a russian plane was shot down. The pilot died. Well, it was a nato country, and it seemed to attack the Russian Federation by knocking it down into its combat plane, and the war started, and no , you see it again. Well, if they dont hug, then shake each others hands, although i would its a shame to even approach the military with yes, but you see here, turkey itself is very similar to what india is doing and vice versa because , well, money doesnt smell like money, so everything depends here, mr. Sergey, on the political the will of the heads of these states and nato as a whole, but for now, unfortunately, there is simply no political will, volodymyr, and in this situation, could official kyiv react in a different way, because it is already the council of ukraine of nato and within the framework of this it would be possible to discuss this situation because romania could as a country that is part of of the North Atlantic Alliance to help ukraine to close the port area. Moreover, i understand that the distance between romania and ukraine is not so great. Reni and this is kilia and this region is meant to be somewhat. Well, it is too much to indicate there. Look, your country is being attacked, and why not put a ppu system there, we have partially protected it, including the Port Infrastructure, well, ill show you. I think that, based on practice and experience , before such forums are convened quiet diplomatic work is being carried out coordination of these measures, well, in general, i conclude that our fanatical partners probably do not have a great desire to carry out such measures, otherwise, i think it would be done as quickly as possible. In order to start punishing russia for its crimes. Well, there is no such thing yet. Well, in the United States of america and in general, in ukraine, they are also discussing the story of him wearing a mask, which apparently, in the summer of 2022 , turned off the starlinks that served our military needs in the direction of crimea and this became known to the cns tv channel from the autobiography that should be released about those biographies about elon mask written by Walter Isaacson and elon musk already started talking about the fact that he contributed to the disruption of the attack of Ukrainian Naval drones on crimea because of that as a citizen of the United States of america, he does not consider himself a traitor because the United States of america is not waging a war against russia, of course Anthony Blinken also spoke about this situation. He said that the starlink satellite system is vital tool what else did he say he said we hope we expect the technology to remain fully available to ukrainians stalin was a vital tool for ukrainians to be able to communicate with each other and especially for the military to communicate in their efforts to protect the entire territory of ukraine starlink and generally all technologies that we own elon musk is supported by the United States of america by state institutions these are large programs , they usually receive state funding and state assistance fathers story with the fact that musk could play along with putin and russia, it can affect his business and its development all over the world, including in ukraine, of course, mr. Serhiy well, here it must be said for, as they say, for the balance that, after all, thanks to this sterling and because musk gave his consent to this, er, our armed forces did their work as efficiently as possible. Well, the fact that at some point he began to falter, so to speak, is another story, but here there are two positive news, it seems to me, the first news is that finally in the us congress is they understood that giving such power even to their own billionaires is a danger, and now there will be appropriate hearings where they will invite elon mask, among others, and discuss how to limit this Unlimited Power that one or another acquires a billionaire, especially when he is, and when he is engaged in telecommunications, this is very good, good news, and i think that there will be legislators who will quickly reformat it into appropriate paragraphs of the law, where everything will be written correctly, and the second the news is that the pentagon, with the same brush stroke, concluded er agreements or rather contracts about how er musk will perform his functions in the interests of ukraine and now we will not depend on whether musk wanted to include stalin or exclude him this is already his obligation to the pentagon and there. As you know, they dont joke in such cases , that is, if you are obliged to do something , you will do it. Thus, i think that the story with the antics of ilona mask will be successful completed thank you mr. Volodymyr tse was volodymyr hryshko, a politician, a diplomat. We talked about russia and the influence of what is happening in russia in the world on the russianukrainian war. Lets put an end to this. I wish everyone good health. Take care of yourself and your relatives. In ukraine and how much time is left for the ukrainian contrast, we talk about all this on the air of bbcineus ukraine is live and from london yevgenia shadlovska so who came to russia to meet with putin and left north korea for the first time in four years why to agree on the supply of weapons to russia , this is what the United States believes , will such an ally like the dprk