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And this is what experts who create rockets and weapons are saying about it, just dont interfere with them. Remove all people from the state Audit Service of ukraine, and just remove them from missile issues , the rocket engineers made a revolution, the Missile Program was launched for the second time at the end of may 22nd , and now a year and two months later, already ukraine demonstrated a new missile and destroyed it, began to destroy it with a new missile, actually powerful russian antiaircraft missile systems, which theoretically could destroy our missile, but did not shoot it down, and it turns out that combined operations when the air Defense System is first overloaded with drones and then hit with ukrainian cruise missiles including i want to remind you that a sonic missile is not a ballistic missile, if we had an attack with a ballistic missile, we would completely destroy the entire infrastructure of the russian uh , not even uh, doing something for insurance, because i i believe that the s400 will not be able to shoot down such missiles, but now if we do not have american german missiles , several thousand of our own missiles and tens of thousands of drones , tens of thousands of drones, and as i said , asymmetric weapons are drones and the traditions of special forces, our special forces units, i am very a long time ago i said this back in 1819 years, we did a study about how in the afghan war every fourth scout was a ukrainian and special forces ukrainians are the best people in the world who understand special operations everything we saw in the summer and in the fall of the ee in the sector, so to speak, conducting special operations is simply filigree surgical uncompromising work and it must be done, it must be acted on, but of course it is necessary to stop handing over ee special forces units to the general military commander and use special forces as assault infantry because, unfortunately, the loss of art of special forces is very large and you are not, so to speak, not for the purpose no, this must be understood and this must be known, and one short question literally for a minute about the fact that foreign publications are foreign experts determine that ukraine, in principle, is in no hurry to militarize the economy, this is what zelensky actually talks about, and he once said that while there are no threats related to the insufficient flow of foreign aid , there is no such thing as an inventory of the economy , or are we making a mistake when these processes are connected with the reequipment of our daily life, our life, our industry , we invest in military things for later so that it does not slip out of our hands again later, what do you think about this . I would say so if in short, four years were lost during zelenskyis president ial term, four years, but the 23rd year of the Banking Industry seems to have matured and they quickly began to catch up, so to speak, and what is being done now is, in principle, very positive. The only thing that is needed is strict centralization. Yes, because it is not clear to us who is responsible for what, it deals with drones, we have three ministries that deal with other weapons, we need a strict centralization of who is responsible for what, i believe, and we made this proposal together with academician Volodymyr Horbulin about that a militaryindustrial commission should be created in ukraine, headed by the president of ukraine, who will be associated with the creation of powerful missiles of revenge, and his deputies are the military chief , that is, the commanderinchief , zaluzhny, and this is the chief industrialist. Earlier they were nominally yes they existed but there was no main industrialist now it is and it is possible to drastically increase the possibilities of creating ukrainian weapons , mainly Missile Technology antimissile artillery, to localize a significant amount of western weapons here, and to deal with the drone issue, because there are so many drones, and i heard that they are postponing the decision of which dons we will need for the 24th year. I believe that this is a very long way off today and now choose specialists who use drones on ee they say that seven or eight main types of drones are needed it is necessary to urgently define and urgently unify the adjacent systems of navigation, guidance communication, and so on, and so on, this is what a Single Center should take care of state, then we will quickly have analogs of shaheds, kamikaze drones will appear with a load of standing more, i mean unmanned ee with more ee kilograms e and e we e will actually be able to make asymmetric e but mirror responses e there is an enemy there in russia in russia, and here is what we need to do. Thank you very much for your professional comments for your time and i will remind our viewers that the stress channel is on the air, because valentin batrak is the director of the center for research of the army, conversion and disarmament , analytics, writer, and then we will discuss our topic we will continue after the informational break, we will talk in more detail about other aspects of interaction with the United States there are 10 discounts on diclosafe in pharmacies podorozhnyk bam and oschad museum territory of Terror Jewish goethe lviv was transformed by the soviet occupiers into a prison with which the path went to the goal of the best example of the symbiosis of two totalitarian regimes cannot be found, the nazis created this geth to destroy the Jewish Population of the city, from this place there was only one way to the death camps , the bolsheviks used this experience to send their prisoners, their enemies of the people, too in the death camps in golovy and today, modern ukraine is being attacked by the regime that became the heir to both of these totalitarian dictatorships and of both of these humanhating practices. 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Mykhailo. I congratulate you. I am glad to see and hear from the official channels of espresso. Good day, serhiy. Greetings to all the viewers of espresso. A lot, but we understand that this visit lasts such a difficult period. From the point of view of the ukrainian reality, from the point of view of the reality of the United States, so what things should we highlight, what intermediate ones conclusions should be drawn and not the same things should be paid the main attention, well, first of all, in summary, we can say that after all , the results of the visit are generally positive, although they may not have reached the level we were hoping for. From the side of the Political Leadership of the United States because there have been no such objections from the military side for a long time that the provision of Army Tactical complexes to ukraine, and also, as we can see, did not happen and in this context, the importance of exactly those statements that were made by the american side about the appearance of abrams tanks in ukraine in the near future and the main thing is the readiness to continue comprehensive assistance to ukraine in the future but here it is important to look very carefully a lot of them were mentioned during the visit and before the visit, and it is clear why because the situation with the aid to the country became not today, but in recent months, especially in september, it was manifested before the visit of the president of ukraine, the hostage itself of internal political processes in the United States itself in the context of the upcoming elections, and therefore when there are figures related to the amounts of american aid, we need to carefully analyze them and , as a matter of fact, show them and not just name them there without reference to something, because the absolute numbers can be impressive but when you look at their breakdown, so to speak, and compare it with what the aggressor has at his disposal , the situation will appear not so, so to speak , not so, not as powerful as it can be to seem at first glance what i mean well, for example, the number of general aid to ukraine is heard, and certain er circles in the Republican Party are speculating about it, which er are focused on trumps policies. Well, they are largely focused on disrupting american aid to ukraine called the figure that ukraine has already received 113 and a half billion dollars of american aid. Well, that sounds impressive, but at the same time it is not indicated that practically when we look further, in fact a significant part of this aid is last year, for example, it went under the title of ukraine, but it had nothing to do with ukraine, it was just a procedure, they took advantage of the fact that it is necessary to quickly conduct American Humanitarian aid for african countries with the ukrainian bill, we pushed 30 billion there, and it has nothing to do with ukraine, and therefore direct aid 81. 3 billion dollars this is a Straight Line that includes everything , not only military but also humanitarian aid, Financial Aid and so on, further gradation is 46. 5 billion dollars, what is called military aid but again after all, when we take the number, but what is on the front line is what actually shoots and drives, then this figure is 18. 2 billion in total, and the other 21 billion is approximately, so to speak, so postponed. That is, it will be provided, but this is the financing that goes to the order of industry that which cannot be delivered immediately, but will be somewhere there will be months or even next year, exactly when these weapons and military equipment will be able to be delivered to him against this background of course, when these numbers are heard, they need to be analyzed and shown accordingly against the background of that russia from in the context of what kind of money it allocates to the budget of the war, lets say so, here the numbers show exactly that despite all the help from the United States and our western allies in general, well, lets say that in the rammstein format, everything is the same in russia if on average, western aid to us per month is about 4. 2 billion dollars. This is based on the data provided by us defense minister austin that the total aid of the allies to ukraine during these 18 months of active hostilities amounted to 76 billion dollars, so this comes out to 4. 2 billion de every month russia is currently spending on war, according to modest estimates, about 12 billion dollars with a small number of billions of dollars, 12 small or immodest estimates given by the same andriy larionov, for example, up to 15 billion dollars, and the question is that russia uses certain items of expenditure there that if they are not directly related to the ee military to their military budget, but for example, there are ee lines on the line of, say , medical care, then these expenses go on the line of the ministry of health of russia there or lets say some construction and largescale Construction Works and fortifications that are carried out in the occupied territories , they do not follow the ministry of defenses line at all, so these are all things in the complex. I think there is an understanding , but with the political class, so to speak , there is no such understanding. Well, because they are not military, they have a completely different coordinate system. Of course, it is very good that we are on the other side additional supplies of antiflood defense means, we understand that it is so important and it is not that we have understood it now. What surprised me is that we need the means, pavel, more than, for example, the attack, well, this is a wrong way of asking the question, what do you need more, a machine gun or a bulletproof vest on the front line , you need to go Something Else and machine guns, they lived, you need air defense equipment and you need shock equipment because, strictly speaking, it is possible to inflict tangible damage and losses on the enemy not only not so much by defending ones positions, but above all by striking eh and on the operational strategic depth of the enemy, and here of course you need strike complexes eh and i understand that in principle the question it is not closed, it will be worked out, but time is running out. Of course, we should not, so to speak, blame our American Partners in this case , well, their slowness there, uh, it took too long to realize our needs, well undoubtedly this is the case, we have already testified that the bureaucracy works unevenly here and in europe and in the United States , especially taking into account the political aspects but nevertheless there is a problem and from the ukrainian side it is of course unlikely well, i didnt fix it, at least on the public plane, but they are on the public plane one of the inhibiting factors , why is it slowed down so leisurely , the decision on the attacks is made that the american side is far from convinced that these means will not fall in strangers hands so to speak, because there are certain ee equipment that is available not only in these complexes, but also, for example, in cardinal american ballistic missiles, and this is a little bit of you. More than the aid that comes to ukraine, that is, we take 42 billion ee there and 12 billion ee from the russians to spend on current problems, the question arises where russia takes the money from, because in fact we always understood that in addition to destroying the enemy on the field combat that is provided by the armed forces of ukraine as the main executor of this extremely difficult task, the europeans and americans had to ensure the effectiveness of their sanctions in any spheres, then the question arises where russia takes money from, how to fight this, and here it is also an important question, which uh, i think was discussed in the same way, because we actually have a different coordinate system for evaluating the effectiveness of sanctions, for our part, we see that these sanctions should be, as they were called in the states, looping, that is, to stop the financial the inflow of oil and gas supplies into the war budget, the russian war budget, and we see that this did not happen. Countries well, they didnt remove them, but they really minimized such opportunities, but the question is that russia shifted its exports to a large extent to the east to the south aa yes, it suffered losses. Yes, it receives there. The flow of petrodollars is practically almost half as much as last year. But last year it received record revenues, and therefore what it receives now is enough for the war budget, and this is exactly what draws our attention to the fact that sanctions are not effective because they do not stop this perpetumobile is the eternal engine of russian aggression. Even now, if you look at it, they are not slowing down very much, even in this context, these figures illustrate, so to speak, the asymmetry in this case, well, such a bad symmetry, because we need to balance all this and here if times another indicator of the insufficient effectiveness of sanctions is that we see that all the forecasts and the russian western ones on the russian economy eh how is it behaving this year, what will the results show that it will grow somewhere by two maybe by a small percentage and this practically means that last year it fell there by two and one to one 1 10 . I. E. If the economy began to grow, it means that the sanctions are ineffective, so certain sectors of the russian economy failed, but if the military the Industrial Complex is now pulling out the rest of the economy and it is actually growing, and this indicator is also insufficient for the effectiveness of sanctions. Of course, we have also increased our Defense Budget. And now if you look there , taking into account the fact that the Verkhovna Rada gave additional money there earlier, then we spend somewhere around 3, 8 billion dollars on average, that is, to combine with these 4. 2 ee of western aid, it comes out to somewhere around eight ebillion in total, but so to speak , again, we compare with that ee dispersion according to estimates of various russian expenditures from 12 up to 15 billion dollars, then again hmm, this is far from such a mirror situation because if we do not have the opportunity to acquire the necessary weapons and military equipment, then accordingly it will affect all the entire further course of combat actions from the point of view there and offensive operations there and so on, that is why the situation looks like this. Thus, it is important that our western partners , above all, the United States, in principle , confirmed their commitment to further assistance to ukraine despite everything, well, the only thing is that, after all, all we expected what would happen if such a radical transition from the formula of supporting ukraine as much as needed to the formula of victory in ukraine and inflicting a military defeat on the aggressor russia well, it did not happen that way, it is obvious that a longer period is needed for the american establishment to rethink and understand that in the end any delays there or dosage of the supply of weapons of military equipment, they do not contribute to the faster end of the war and that the only way out against the background of the fact that russia is fighting is to inflict a military defeat on it, and this will be a victory not only for ukraine but the victory of the United States and our western partners e p mykhailov thank you very much for your expert comments for finding time for our viewers, i hope that both the american and ukrainian authorities will find opportunities to speed up your enemy by combining economic potentials military potential with these, we really hope for it. Thank you for your broadcast, i will remind our viewers that it was mykhailo gonchar, president of the center for global studies, strategy 21 so when we talk about american aid, it is about money if we consider this amount of 47 billion military aid that ukraine received, it is actually somewhere around 5 of the total Defense Budget of the United States , so for about five percent of the total military expenditures of the United States , the Ukrainian Army provides colossal work because in these 18 months of hostilities, more than 250,000 enemy personnel were actually destroyed, a significant number of armored vehicles, we know these figures, and this indicates that the United States is extremely rational in using these funds, i think that an increase in aid is in the interests of all European Countries of the United States so that the destruction of russia takes place in the shortest possible time, this is actually what we hope to receive a passport and then a ticket to the war , according to the information of the Ukrainian Center of national resistance, the occupation authorities in the socalled elections to local authorities that took place. A week ago, i collected data on men for the military commissariat. It seems that preparations for the next wave of mobilization in the occupation are already in full swing. This is the reality of donbas. And today we lets talk, of course, about mobilization, passporting and lawlessness in the territories captured by the various armies, the measure of punishment is applied to you in the form of forced deportation outside the territory of the zaporizhzhia region to the right, to the right, a video ran to the right at the beginning of the year of the regional network, a person in a uniform on it , you understand, to the right, ran to the right even faster even faster but in reality it is not clear where you people came from, where they were kept , what they are allegedly accused of. And most importantly, where should they flee, you carried out activities aimed at to discredit the authorities of the russian federation, i will remind you that last year president ref putin signed the socalled law on the incorporation of new regions into russia, essentially annexing parts of the donetsk luhansk zaporozhye and kherson regions. In april , a new decree was issued that turns ukrainians under occupation without a russian passport into foreigners the deadline to resolve the issue of obtaining a red book, they should allegedly be until july 1 , 2024, and there is indeed a separate clause that refers to the deportation of those who, in the opinion of the kremlin creates a threat to the National Security of russia, but the gauleiter on the ground solved the issue in their own way, well, wait, before creating this whole category in our country, first they go and dig trenches, they worked for the benefit of the motherland, and then they go to ukraine to banderstadt to live there, Yevhen Balytskyi will go there soon watching from the kremlin in the zaporizhzhia region decided to say this practice in offensive propagandist publications, and they still call ukrainian people zhduns and write, saying, look what can happen to you, for example, human rights defenders, nothing. Cannot tell about the fate of the people on the video from the russian checkpoints, this requires an additional